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#3551 Fivestripes

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 17:12

Back to form this month- the BRP and Martin Donnelly articles were worth it on their own. Great Kubica piece by NR reminds me how good he in on modern F1.
Well pleased........

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#3552 Les

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 17:19

Back to form this month- the BRP and Martin Donnelly articles were worth it on their own. Great Kubica piece by NR reminds me how good he in on modern F1.
Well pleased........


Oh... just back from holiday and no magazine and they have had a history of not delivering. Hopefully it will be here soon.

#3553 Alan Cox

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 17:24

PS It was good to see editor Mr Smith and deputy editor Gordon Cruickshank out and about at last weekend's Oulton Gold Cup meeting. Gordon told me that he was involved with a piece he is writing about the Ferguson.

#3554 LittleChris

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 20:34

The Martin Donnelly piece was excellent especially his tale of EJ trying to sell both his and Alesi's services to F1 teams :clap: My favourite "Lunch With" yet I reckon

#3555 willini

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Posted 03 September 2010 - 02:43

Hi all,


#3556 willini

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Posted 03 September 2010 - 02:56

Hi All, I would like the advice of any Australian subscribers, particularly those in Melbourne, as to whether they think subscription is worth it. There appears to be a significant difference between what I pay per issue ($16) and the one calculated from the subscription fee, that this is partly due to the current value of the Aus dollar against the pound and my seller not passing on this difference. The question is how good is the delivery to Oz? At present I pay the premium to have the magazine in excellent condition within 2-3 weeks of issue in the UK. Although I don't mind it being a little later I am a little fussy and would be annoyed to miss an issue or to find the magazine damaged by an inconsiderate postie trying to ram it it in the magazine tube as he flies past my house. I will also take this opportunity to say to everyone involved with the mag to keep it up, it is a fabulous read from cover to cover.

#3557 Jack-the-Lad

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Posted 03 September 2010 - 22:23

Heck, I have not even received the Sept issue yet. The last couple months I would receive my issue around the third week of the month (e.g., Aug issue arrived around Jul 20). Then included in that copy was a note from Nigel saying that the distribution of the mag, at least for the US, was being taken back in house after having been farmed out to a mailing agent for a while. I shuddered when I read this, wondering how this would work out. So far, not so good. It is two weeks later than last month and still counting...
Tom



+1!

#3558 mfd

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Posted 04 September 2010 - 16:20

+1!

Does anyone wonder (or know) who owns Motorsport?

#3559 RA Historian

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Posted 04 September 2010 - 20:50

Does anyone wonder (or know) who owns Motorsport?

Don't know. Still have not received my Sept issue. Did not arrive today, next mail delivery not until Tuesday. This new distribution system that was trumpeted a month and a half ago really seems to be working well... :down:

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#3560 Claudio Navonne

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Posted 04 September 2010 - 22:10

Heck, I have not even received the Sept issue yet. The last couple months I would receive my issue around the third week of the month (e.g., Aug issue arrived around Jul 20). Then included in that copy was a note from Nigel saying that the distribution of the mag, at least for the US, was being taken back in house after having been farmed out to a mailing agent for a while. I shuddered when I read this, wondering how this would work out. So far, not so good. It is two weeks later than last month and still counting...
Tom


Here, from Buenos Aires,too :|


#3561 Jack-the-Lad

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 04:18

Don't know. Still have not received my Sept issue. Did not arrive today, next mail delivery not until Tuesday. This new distribution system that was trumpeted a month and a half ago really seems to be working well... :down:



It's difficult to keep up with the complaints when everybody else has their copies weeks ahead!

Jack

#3562 Tony Matthews

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 06:51

It's difficult to keep up with the complaints when everybody else has their copies weeks ahead!

Jack

Make some up - that would confuse a lot of people!

#3563 Frank S

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 20:43

Any Leftpondians received the overdue issue?

I am not amused.


#3564 RA Historian

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 22:38

My Sept issue arrived yesterday, 13 Sept. Only about a month behind based upon when I received my August issue. As I said earlier, when I got a notice included in my Aug issue saying that the mag has taken its US distribution back in house from whatever mailing agent it had been using before, I shuddered. I just knew that whatever was going to happen likely would not be an improvement. So far, the distribution has been a LOT slower. Be interesting to see how soon I receive the Oct issue. Prepare to start gnashing teeth again...
Tom

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 15:49

My Sept issue arrived yesterday, 13 Sept. Only about a month behind based upon when I received my August issue. As I said earlier, when I got a notice included in my Aug issue saying that the mag has taken its US distribution back in house from whatever mailing agent it had been using before, I shuddered. I just knew that whatever was going to happen likely would not be an improvement. So far, the distribution has been a LOT slower. Be interesting to see how soon I receive the Oct issue. Prepare to start gnashing teeth again...
Tom


I too have just received my copy, a couple of days ago, here in New York.

So I was thrilled then to walk into Grand Central Station today and see that next month's (October) edition is already here in the US!

What makes no sense to me is that the newstands always seem to get the magazine on a timely basis, whereas the subscribers wait and wait.

Perhaps they collect the unsold returns from the newstands and then send them out to the subscribers? :drunk:

#3566 David Beard

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 16:46

I wish we could have a separate "My Motor Sport has/hasn't arrived" thread. and leave this one for discussing the contents. :rolleyes:


#3567 mfd

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 21:19

I wish we could have a separate "My Motor Sport has/hasn't arrived" thread. and leave this one for discussing the contents. :rolleyes:

Seconded :wave:

#3568 RA Historian

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 21:40

Of course, a good percentage of us would not be able to participate is such a discussion because our copies have not arrived yet... :rolleyes:
Tom

#3569 john aston

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 06:54

Seconded :wave:

Thirded. Suggest disappointed MS buyers look at the magazine website instead.It's very good.

#3570 RA Historian

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 13:27

Yes, the website is good, but electronic media will never replace the printed copy in my library.

Just me...

Tom

#3571 Marticelli

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 16:09

I just started a new trend... Instead of reading the latest edition of MS, I pulled a pile of old copies from my loft and started reading them as if they were the latest edition... As a retired person living on a budget, I find considerable pleasure re-reading the stories of my youth, and rediscovering the not inconsiderable writing talents of Bill Boddy, DSJ and many others. These magazines are also full of adverts for now unobtainable rarities for seemingly low prices, although this is largely illusory as one forgets how little one was paid in those far off days and therefore how expensive Ferraris and pre war Alfas and Bentleys and the like have always been...

I can commend this unashamedly nostalgic process to others, and I feel strangely at ease at my decision not to renew my subscription to MS.

Marticelli

#3572 jj2728

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 19:51

I just started a new trend... Instead of reading the latest edition of MS, I pulled a pile of old copies from my loft and started reading them as if they were the latest edition... As a retired person living on a budget, I find considerable pleasure re-reading the stories of my youth, and rediscovering the not inconsiderable writing talents of Bill Boddy, DSJ and many others. These magazines are also full of adverts for now unobtainable rarities for seemingly low prices, although this is largely illusory as one forgets how little one was paid in those far off days and therefore how expensive Ferraris and pre war Alfas and Bentleys and the like have always been...

I can commend this unashamedly nostalgic process to others, and I feel strangely at ease at my decision not to renew my subscription to MS.

Marticelli


As can I. As of late I've been adding to my collection of MS by acquiring older issues (in my case from the mid 60s thru early 70s) via ebay. Excellent bedtime reading.


#3573 RA Historian

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 01:47

My Sept issue arrived yesterday, 13 Sept. Only about a month behind based upon when I received my August issue. As I said earlier, when I got a notice included in my Aug issue saying that the mag has taken its US distribution back in house from whatever mailing agent it had been using before, I shuddered. I just knew that whatever was going to happen likely would not be an improvement. So far, the distribution has been a LOT slower. Be interesting to see how soon I receive the Oct issue. Prepare to start gnashing teeth again...
Tom

Well, it is time to give credit where due. I received the Oct issue today, 18 Sep. That is the earliest I have ever received an issue. Enclosed was a note apologizing for the late delivery of the Sep issue and promising delivery of future issues in the same time frame as the Oct issue. I am pleased with the Oct issue delivery, the nice note of explanation, and the promise of future timely delivery. Since I have been a regular critic of slow delivery to the US, it is time for me to pat them on the back for this development.
Tom

#3574 mfd

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 10:06

Well, it is time to give credit where due. I received the Oct issue today, 18 Sep. That is the earliest I have ever received an issue. Enclosed was a note apologizing for the late delivery of the Sep issue and promising delivery of future issues in the same time frame as the Oct issue. I am pleased with the Oct issue delivery, the nice note of explanation, and the promise of future timely delivery. Since I have been a regular critic of slow delivery to the US, it is time for me to pat them on the back for this development.
Tom

Bravo Tom :up: Might I say "Everything that comes before or after is just waiting" :D

#3575 Stephen W

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 07:57

I wish we could have a separate "My Motor Sport has/hasn't arrived" thread. and leave this one for discussing the contents. :rolleyes:


Seconded :wave:


Thirded. Suggest disappointed MS buyers look at the magazine website instead.It's very good.


Fourthed! Although it must be frustrating to get the magazine AFTER it appears on the news stands. This problem led me to cancel my subscription to Autosport - that and the postman folding the fecking thing in two to get it through the letterbox! :mad:

#3576 Jack-the-Lad

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 22:48

As one who has loudly complained about delivery times in the US, I am quite pleased with the new distribution system. Apparently the problems have been addressed and resolved. Not only that, but production times seem to have improved as well...I feel as if I've just arrived home from Goodwood and the MS with Revival report came earlier this week.

Well done! :clap:

Jack

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 10:16

As can I. As of late I've been adding to my collection of MS by acquiring older issues (in my case from the mid 60s thru early 70s) via ebay. Excellent bedtime reading.


If anyone wants them, I've got all MS from 1963 to 1980 making my rafters groan. I would rather they all went rather than got cherry picked but they are free to someone prepared to collect them.I'm in the Warwick area.
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Posted 03 November 2010 - 16:51

does anyone have the November '10 issue (with Moss in the Ferguson on the cover) - I'm looking for a scan of an article about a guy who digitally scans race cars and components as there is a bit about my old car 'Pandora' and as I don't buy it every month anymore, I missed it.

Ta

#3579 dank

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 17:58

Loving the additional Christmas hamper brochure with this month's magazine - interesting bedfellows...

Oh, and no Louisa Skipper this month?

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#3580 john aston

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 19:07

No not a comment about delivery time , subscription rates etc (yaaawn) but just to say that this month's was another outstandingly good edition. Very much enjoyed the Lunch With..Stefan Johannson interview and Nigel Roebuck is so much better now he has been freed from the Autosport shackles. I have read MS for - dear me - nearly forty years and enjoy it far more now than ever before. I used to love DSJ's reports - was there ever a better iconoclast reporting on our sport?- but the rest was often ..ermm..really rather dull. I could still do without Andrew Frankel's road car stuff but then I was never enamoured of road cars in racing magazines.Reading a lightweight roadtest of some deathless horror like an Allegro or Corsair was surreal when juxtaposed with a Targa Florio report . And I fouind the endless 'continues on page 885' irritating beyond words.Cracking podcasts now too.

Edited by john aston, 03 November 2010 - 19:08.


#3581 Phil Rainford

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 19:19

Very much enjoyed the Lunch With..Stefan Johannson interview and Nigel Roebuck is so much better now he has been freed from the Autosport shackles. I have read MS for - dear me - nearly forty years and enjoy it far more now than ever before.


Agreed.......

Love Nigel's question " Which current Grand Prix driver would you wish to have with you if you were surrounded by armed gangsters?" :rotfl:


PAR


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Posted 03 November 2010 - 21:49

does anyone have the November '10 issue (with Moss in the Ferguson on the cover) - I'm looking for a scan of an article about a guy who digitally scans race cars and components as there is a bit about my old car 'Pandora' and as I don't buy it every month anymore, I missed it.

Ta

The following is from the magazine's website:

If you are looking for a copy of an issue back to 2003, then do contact Ash Luchmun in the Motor Sport office to order a copy.

Email: admin@motorsportmagazine.co.uk

Telephone: 0044 (0)20 7349 8490


#3583 Thundersport

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 00:34

Good issue Roebuck was great and enjoyed the Johansson interview, less road cars though please.....

#3584 Stephen W

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 08:55

Good issue Roebuck was great and enjoyed the Johansson interview, less road cars though please.....


Road cars were always a major part of the magazine back in the 60s & 70s however they did tend to be the more affordable ones!

:wave:

#3585 arttidesco

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 09:11

I just started a new trend... Instead of reading the latest edition of MS, I pulled a pile of old copies from my loft and started reading them as if they were the latest edition... As a retired person living on a budget, I find considerable pleasure re-reading the stories of my youth, and rediscovering the not inconsiderable writing talents of Bill Boddy, DSJ and many others. These magazines are also full of adverts for now unobtainable rarities for seemingly low prices, although this is largely illusory as one forgets how little one was paid in those far off days and therefore how expensive Ferraris and pre war Alfas and Bentleys and the like have always been...

I can commend this unashamedly nostalgic process to others, and I feel strangely at ease at my decision not to renew my subscription to MS.

Marticelli


Look forward to following your lead in 15 - 20 years if I make it that far and retirement still exists when I get that far :up:

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Posted 09 November 2010 - 19:18

This month's issue; Trevor Taylor obituary. Having been away for a couple of weeks I am catching up with the various comics, and I was delighted to see what looked like a decent length obit for Trevor Taylor, which I hoped would be as full and fulsome as the one done by Tony Dron on Ralf Broad, for whom he drove, for Octane.

It is funny how memory plays tricks as one ages, as David McLaughlin's quizzes regularly demonstrate. From my own recollection I was quite unaware that Trev raced Anglias and Escorts successfully for Mr Broad. I always recalled Fitz with Procter, parts of whose fiery rolls at Goodwood I regret I saw, and then with Anita in her white and gold car.

Roger Lund

Edited by bradbury west, 18 November 2010 - 15:14.


#3587 Phil Rainford

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Posted 09 November 2010 - 19:33

Agreed.......

Love Nigel's question " Which current Grand Prix driver would you wish to have with you if you were surrounded by armed gangsters?" :rotfl:


PAR


Just seen my post of last week...........Did Nigel know something we didn't? :eek:


PAR

Edited by Phil Rainford, 09 November 2010 - 19:33.


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Posted 09 November 2010 - 21:07

From my own recollection I was quite unaware that Trev raced Anglias and Escorts successfully for Mr Broad

My thought exactly


#3589 Aykay

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Posted 09 November 2010 - 21:40

This month's issue; Trevor Taylor obituary. Having been away for a couple of weeks I am catching up with the various comics, and I was delighted to see what looked like a decent length obit for Trevor Taylor, which I hoped would be as full and fulsome as the one done by Tony Dron on Ralf Broad, for whom he drove, for Octane.

It is funny how memory plays tricks as one ages, as David McLaughlin's quizzes regularly demonstrate. From my own recollection I was quite unaware that Trev raced Anglias and Escorts successfully for Mr Broad, as Tony Dron does not mention it at all. I always recalled Fitz with Procter, parts of whose fiery rolls at Goodwood I regret I saw, and then with Anita in her white and gold car.

Roger Lund


Following Barry Boors mention on the Ferrari 156 "sharknose" thread I spent an hours browsing among the Model Cars plans recalling my youth as a slot racer, thanks Barry. December 1967 pages 590/591 shows the Broadspeed Anglia with a photo of Trevor and Anita standing by the white car in the pits. Sorry not sure how to put the link.

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 13:56

Good issue Roebuck was great and enjoyed the Johansson interview, less road cars though please.....


Yes another good issue, added bonus of the interview with Stefan!



#3591 Formula Once

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 15:03

Honestly, I dont really care when my copy arrives. That it (again) features a road car on the cover is a bit more worrying.

The biggest change to me is that it unfortunately contains way less 'timeless' stories, the reason I liked it in the first place. If you'd compare any issue from 7 or 8 years ago, there was much more history in it, space which is now absorbed by contemporary stuff, road cars and reports on historic races. They will have their reasons for this, but I for one like Motorsport less for it; to me there is much more to enjoy in few pages written by Doug Nye, for example, than in an interview with Fernando Alonso. As for the road car articles, apart from the fact I don't care about them, they are all written by the same person. And it shows.

#3592 Rob29

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 18:00

Just received disc from Motor Sport.Complete record of all issues from first Brooklands Gazette in 1924 to 1949.Will keep me busy this winter. :lol: Comes free when you renew subscription.

#3593 David Lawson

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 19:12

Following Barry Boors mention on the Ferrari 156 "sharknose" thread I spent an hours browsing among the Model Cars plans recalling my youth as a slot racer, thanks Barry. December 1967 pages 590/591 shows the Broadspeed Anglia with a photo of Trevor and Anita standing by the white car in the pits. Sorry not sure how to put the link.


Anglia

Anglia 2

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#3594 bradbury west

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 20:37

David, many thanks. Narrative is excellent in detail.
Roger Lund

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 21:35

Anglia

Anglia 2

David



Thanks David

#3596 David McKinney

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 21:42

But has anyone any evidence that Trevor raced one?

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Posted 23 November 2010 - 22:08

But has anyone any evidence that Trevor raced one?



David, I remember googling images some time ago and came across some photos of the Broadspeed Anglias. John Fitzpatricks car was in the foreground with Trevor sitting in the white car behind. I seem to recall it was abroad but for the life of me I can't find them now or remember where it was.
Perhaps John Fitzpatrick could confirm

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Posted 24 November 2010 - 08:42

But has anyone any evidence that Trevor raced one?


Here is the proof that you are looking for David and Roger.

http://homepage.mac......0Park GC.html

If you scroll back to the previous round at Brands Hatch you will see that Trevor raced in that one as well. :wave:

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#3599 David McKinney

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Posted 24 November 2010 - 09:47

Thanks Glyn :up:
Now I believe it :lol:

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Posted 24 November 2010 - 10:06

Anglia

Anglia 2

David


Ah! The long defunct Model Cars magazine, I used to write quite a lot for that publication in my younger days, as did one David Windsor, to whom some of the Anglia pics are credited. David is the brother of Peter Windsor, who has been involved with all kinds of things in racing, fairly recently with that hopeless US GP enterprise. As a regular contributor, I used to receive free copies of Model Cars, and had a complete collection right from issue #1, Model Maker incorporating Model Cars before that, but shortly after I'd left home to seek my fortune in the great wide world, my dear mum decided that I had to cast aside childish things, and consigned them all to the local tip, though I have to confess that I only noticed their absence several years later when on a weekend visit.