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#4101 Barry Boor

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 16:20

Most probably. I can see myself starting to buy it again in 2013.

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#4102 dank

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 13:49

Is this a Waitrose only thing?

#4103 arttidesco

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 13:57

Most probably. I can see myself starting to buy it again in 2013.


Tempting isn't it :up:

#4104 dank

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 14:13

Don't know, would like to know though.


I imagine it must be. I can't see the business sense in trying to flog two issues for £6, especially if one is from the previous month.

#4105 Sharman

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 14:42

Well of course my views are subjective and how dull it would be if we had to provide empirical evidence to support our strongly held opinions and prejudices. So in my world I think Villeneuve was overrated, Rosberg underated and Lauda one of the best of all - and hang the stats! But on topic , the 20 something me did find MS very stuffy and establishment -and in those days Autosport was a far better read for me- but it wasn't then an Effone fanzine for people with the attention span of an ant of course...


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In the old days, and I'm talking 50s,60s &70s Motor Sport was about THEM, the International Brigade and Autosport was about US and covered pretty well every club event in the calendar, consequently it was of much more immediate interest because we knew everybody. Still read MS (from 51 onwards) though, would not have missed Jenks for the world.
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#4106 Alan Cox

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 14:49

Simon Arron new features editor from January. Is he the same gentleman who delights the forum with his pics? Forgive my ignorance.

See the October 23 entry in Simon's excellent (and soon to be history) F1 Diary, Regga:
http://www.telegraph...grand-prix.html

#4107 Alan Cox

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 18:52

It doesn't actually appear in the 'paper, Regga. It's only available on line.

#4108 David McKinney

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 20:24

I'm sure I've seen it in the paper

I know someone who'd be able to enlighten us :)

#4109 bradbury west

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 22:04

Surprisingly, in the Motoring section on a Saturday.
Roger Lund

btw, does Simon's MS move mean we will be denied the aposite captions in Honest John in the DT?

Edited by bradbury west, 07 November 2012 - 22:05.


#4110 David McKinney

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 22:51

I shouldn't think so. HJ's subject matter tends to be rather non-racing, doesn't it?

#4111 Alan Cox

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 23:07

I'm sure I've seen it in the paper

It's a while since I have seen a Telegraph, having stopped buying it some time ago now when a 20% price hike in one fell swoop seemed unreasonable to me for a paper which was more about useless supplements/sections and less about real news. It has pages and pages about Association Football, for instance :down:

#4112 john winfield

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 23:18

Surprisingly, in the Motoring section on a Saturday.
Roger Lund

btw, does Simon's MS move mean we will be denied the aposite captions in Honest John in the DT?


I was extracting a Frank Gardner interview from an old Motor Sport yesterday. 'Gardner's Question Time'. Editor SA. You can't keep a good man down. :)


#4113 Derwent Motorsport

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 17:31

Did some folk say they had had their December issue? Not got mine! :drunk:

#4114 kayemod

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 17:50

Did some folk say they had had their December issue? Not got mine! :drunk:


Last Monday I think, and I've seen it in Waitrose.


#4115 Simon Arron

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 19:10

I know someone who'd be able to enlighten us :)

Not sure I've ever enlightened anybody, but to address a few points:

Yes, an abridged F1 Diary has occasionally appeared in the paper version of DT Motoring this year, but the full text exists only in the ether.

I might well continue editing the HJ column, if time permits. The F1 Diary will cease, for obvious reasons, but I've probably written more than enough about pizza and curry during the past six seasons.

The MS Frank Gardner piece was written by Paul Fearnley, but I have a feeling that headline was mine. I suspect I've used the same one in HJ, albeit spelt differently...

Edited by Simon Arron, 08 November 2012 - 19:27.


#4116 Doug Nye

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 19:35

Hmm - noticing that people have suddenly come up all standing with the realisation they have been taking 'Motor Sport' for over forty years - I have just realised I bought my first copy more than 50 years ago. I now have them back to No 1 in the year one thousand nine hundred and twen....urrrrggghhhh

#4117 arttidesco

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 20:12

Hmm - noticing that people have suddenly come up all standing with the realisation they have been taking 'Motor Sport' for over forty years - I have just realised I bought my first copy more than 50 years ago. I now have them back to No 1 in the year one thousand nine hundred and twen....urrrrggghhhh


I must be a light weight my collection is only from July 1977 to August 1992 :blush:

#4118 Marticelli

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 23:06

I already shared my decision to stop buying MS and start rereading my collection of back issues which go back well before I was born, not a decision I regret thus far. I sometimes browse the current issue but seldom see anything that compels me to buy it again. Now there is no longer any WB the last link with the MS I knew and loved has gone, and in WB's last days, even his contribution got to be 'variable' to be euphemistic.

Looking back, one of the odder aspects of WB's writing was his seeming lack of humour. And DSJ didn't always see the funny side of things. Shortly after his excellent book 'Maserati 3011' was published (still one of the favourite items in my extensive library) DSJ published a story in MS about a young chap who fastidiously collected bits cast off by a restorer of a famous ex-works Bugatti. After the restored car was finally completed, this rather gauche young man brought along the Bugatti he had assembled from all these original, but discarded. bits. Which one, DSJ mused, was a better representation of the actual car raced at Lyons in 1924 or whenever?

Amused by the ironic parallelism of this 'cautionary' tale with his own earlier book, I wrote him an affectionate and I thought witty (?) piece suggesting there was probably more of the real 3011 in Ivan Dutton's workshop than in the now resuscitated car, and that maybe Ivan should create the 'genuine' (albeit clapped out) 3011 and bring it along to a VSCC event to see what reaction he got. Of course DSJ failed to get the joke and my letter was never published AFAIK.

It would also be worth mentioning another related publication which I devoured as a youngster, the MS sister publication, the purple Motorcycle Sport. It was well edited by Cyril Ayton and featured the excellent writings of CEA, MRW, PNB, BP, BMS, EU, PUB, FPH and many others who are either no longer with us or are pursuing other directions now that MCS has metamorphosed into something wholly different, Motorcycle Sport and Leisure. Like MS, I occasionally browse but seldom see any reason to buy MCS&L let alone subscribe to it. As with MS, my MCS back issues are a treasured resource which will no doubt be discarded or perhaps sold on eBay after I pass on to another world. I guess nostalgia is a very personal thing!

Marticelli

Edited by Marticelli, 08 November 2012 - 23:54.


#4119 David Birchall

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 23:54

I can still recall my first sight of MS. It would have been 1965, I was working in a garage near Godalming and was stunned to find a publication that actually listed, for sale, such legendary items as D Type Jags and even Ferraris!! :eek:
The Surrey Advertiser was never the same again...

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#4120 Michael Ferner

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 17:12

So, DSJ had read Plutarch! :eek::eek:

#4121 Phil Rainford

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 19:47

Motor Sport Weekend Quiz :)

http://www.motorspor...iz-competition/


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#4122 Tim Murray

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 20:34

The first entrant has got Q4 wrong. :p

#4123 kayemod

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 20:48

The first entrant has got Q4 wrong. :p


Assuming we're only considering F1, the answer is 10 isn't it? If we're counting F3 and everything else, the correct answer is 25.


#4124 Phil Rainford

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 21:00

The first entrant has got Q4 wrong. :p


ROC and International Trophy ?


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#4125 Tim Murray

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 21:19

Assuming we're only considering F1, the answer is 10 isn't it? If we're counting F3 and everything else, the correct answer is 25.

I don't recall Hunt doing any F3 races in 1976. :confused:

ROC and International Trophy ?

Yes indeed, so my answer would be nine.

#4126 kayemod

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 23:15

I don't recall Hunt doing any F3 races in 1976. :confused:


Which just goes to show that I didn't bother to read the original question, mainly because I never do quizzes.


#4127 Doug Nye

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 09:26

Which just goes to show that I didn't bother to read the original question, mainly because I never do quizzes.


What, never?  ;)

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#4128 kayemod

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 09:39

What, never?  ;)

DCN


Well, hardly ever...


#4129 Eric Dunsdon

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 09:39

Motor Sport Weekend Quiz :)

http://www.motorspor...iz-competition/


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I only got three questons right. Syracuse, Ruttman, Snipe. Mostly too moden for me though!. :confused:

#4130 D-Type

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 15:00

Did Hunt do any other races in 1976? I'm thinking of things like the Tour of Britain and celebrity races.

#4131 arttidesco

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 15:13

Did Hunt do any other races in 1976? I'm thinking of things like the Tour of Britain and celebrity races.


IIRC I read a thread on TNF which mentioned Master James and Noel Edmonds sharing a car on the 1976 Avon Tour of Britain.

#4132 Tim Murray

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 15:15

The only ones I'm aware of are (as Arttidesco says) the Tour of Britain (retired), the Trois Rivières F Atlantic race (third, in the race where Villeneuve beat all the F1 stars) and the IROC, which he crashed out of having put his Camaro on pole.

#4133 arttidesco

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 15:19

Wish I'd checked in here to be reminded about James '76 victories in the Race of Champions and International Trophy before I'd answered the MS questions :blush:

#4134 D-Type

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 15:28

Wish I'd checked in here to be reminded about James '76 victories in the Race of Champions and International Trophy before I'd answered the MS questions :blush:

:p

#4135 arttidesco

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 22:24

:p


:rolleyes:

#4136 Gary Davies

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 11:15

Hmm - noticing that people have suddenly come up all standing with the realisation they have been taking 'Motor Sport' for over forty years - I have just realised I bought my first copy more than 50 years ago. I now have them back to No 1 in the year one thousand nine hundred and twen....urrrrggghhhh


Monaco, 14 May 1961 perked my attention. Bought the June issue. Started buying it regularly from the start of 1962 (Got a discount as a newspaper boy at Tylers Green!) and ain't stopped. Mind you, I recall the late 90's stretched one's patience as did the ghastly Haymarket Red Top era.


#4137 RDV

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 18:00

kayemod-Well, hardly ever...

... :lol:


#4138 Doug Nye

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 18:59

Started buying it regularly from the start of 1962 (Got a discount as a newspaper boy at Tylers Green!) and ain't stopped. Mind you, I recall the late 90's stretched one's patience as did the ghastly Haymarket Red Top era.


DITTO! Especially the bit about stretched patience...like many others only habit kept the faith.

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#4139 mfd

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 21:48

I recall the late 90's stretched one's patience as did the ghastly Haymarket Red Top era.

I remember writing to the editor at the intro time for the red top explaining it would have no effect. Apparently it was to do with making the magazine more visible on shelves. To his credit the editor did reply, saying they had to do something to attract more buyers as the sales had dropped so much. I'd already looked at the display in WHS & it was blindingly obvious that there were no green fronted magazines at all! When I pointed this out, I was told it was a "done deal" & not necessarily something he personally agreed with, but I'm sure the problem was the content, not the colour.

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#4140 ensign14

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 22:07

I remember writing to the editor at the intro time for the red top explaining it would have no effect. Apparently it was to do with making the magazine more visible on shelves.

I never understood how turning a magazine red and putting it on a shelf with other red magazines would make it stand out.

#4141 D-Type

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 12:59

I never understood how turning a magazine red and putting it on a shelf with other red magazines would make it stand out.


See post 55 and about 100 following that.

Having said that, I totally agree with you.

#4142 Phil Rainford

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 15:11

http://www.motorspor...e-and-red-bull/

Well worth a viewing.....interesting comments by Adrian Newey on the potential of the Leyton House

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#4143 dank

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:06

Good to see that some of the interviews from Simon Taylor's 'Lunch with...' series have been collected into book form.

Release date is Jan 3rd.

#4144 David Birchall

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 00:40

Forgive me if this has been mentioned in this thread but it is getting rather too long to check!

I seem to recall that a couple of years ago all you luckiy people in the UK got a dvd with your copy of MotorSport that had the entire run of MS recorded on it? This was never made available to us Colonials--is it possible to still get a copy? Can anyone on the forum supply me with a copy? Many thanks, David B

#4145 David Wright

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:32

Forgive me if this has been mentioned in this thread but it is getting rather too long to check!

I seem to recall that a couple of years ago all you luckiy people in the UK got a dvd with your copy of MotorSport that had the entire run of MS recorded on it? This was never made available to us Colonials--is it possible to still get a copy? Can anyone on the forum supply me with a copy? Many thanks, David B


You are mistaken. A DVD covering a decade was free with a subscription. There is no single DVD available covering all decades. They were on sale from the MS website.

Edit still are
http://shop.motorspo...w/category/ARCH

Edited by David Wright, 06 January 2013 - 01:38.


#4146 richardspringett

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:40

Hi David B

I chose the 60`s when I renewed my sub from Japan. It has been unused since and will happily give it to you when I can locate it!

PM me an address.

Richard

#4147 Rob29

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 07:45

Strange curiosity-recently received january issue about 2 weeks after february! Enclosed delivery note also mentioned a travel mug which has not appeared and I don't remember one being promised.No great need for one so I have not persued this but wondered if anyone else had the same experience?

#4148 David Birchall

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 16:18

Can one trade the travel mug for a dvd?

#4149 a_tifoosi

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 23:18

Librairie du Palmier is selling the 1980s DVD for 12€ (here). The shipping costs, knowing the site, should be considered, but it is still a very reasonable price.


Narcís.

#4150 Roger Clark

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 07:33

This may be of interest to owners of the digital archive who also have an iPad (and a complete mystery to everybody else).

If you load the archive onto a drive on your wifi network an app called Filebrowser (£2.99, other apps are available) enables you to read it on the iPad. iPad and drive have to be on the same network. I find the quality is much better than when using the Motor Sport app on my laptop.