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#51 Flexa

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Posted 27 November 2010 - 05:07

Seems test comes in Nov 2 with F2008!

btw

Did you fellas read that?

Brazil is gonna build a new professional Kartodrome! Guess who's the responsible?!?!?

Haha Yes! It's Tilke himself the chief for the new one. :)



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#52 dutra

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Posted 27 November 2010 - 16:46

We need the basics now... We had 2 presidents of state auto federations(Ceará and Pará) arrested and pretty much no investment on kart or anywhere really. The future is not promising...

Granja viana racing live now: http://granja.cloudb...m.br/index.html

#53 highdownforce

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Posted 27 November 2010 - 17:32

Seems test comes in Nov 2 with F2008!

Yeah, that's right it will be with F2008 in Vallelunga, December 2nd.

Did you fellas read that?

Brazil is gonna build a new professional Kartodrome! Guess who's the responsible?!?!?

Haha Yes! It's Tilke himself the chief for the new one. :)

I've read it here, link, yesterday.
And I also think that this will probably cost too much money to be invested in a kart track.
But as it will be a peivate one, no harm will be caused.

This track will be used to host the current 500 Miles event on Granja Viana.

We need the basics now... We had 2 presidents of state auto federations(Ceará and Pará) arrested and pretty much no investment on kart or anywhere really. The future is not promising...

i agree with Dutra, and I'd dare to say that if the investigations could dig a bit more, much more would be found.
The states of things of CBA and the federatios is terrible.

Edited by highdownforce, 27 November 2010 - 17:58.


#54 highdownforce

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Posted 21 December 2010 - 13:00

No Lucas and no Bruno. :down:
Will they even bother to try to find a test seat?

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Posted 21 December 2010 - 14:04

No Lucas and no Bruno. :down:
Will they even bother to try to find a test seat?



Aint Bruno going to Lotus Renault?

#56 highdownforce

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Posted 21 December 2010 - 14:18

Which of those?
He wont race for TL, and LRGP despite being possible is a wild chance even for third driver role.

Edit: On an unrelated note, yesterday we had 4th death in less than two months here in Brazil. Two of those on karts.
This state of affairs of CBA is scandalous. The entity must regulate those competitions accordantly. It's beyond dangerous so far.

Edited by highdownforce, 21 December 2010 - 14:27.


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Posted 10 March 2011 - 15:10

Carnaval is over, so its time to resume the Brazilian 2011 season:


Copa Caixa Stock Car Brasil

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Two seats One seat at AMG still availabe:
Eurofarma – Max Wilson / Ricardo Mauricio
Red Bull Racing – Daniel Serra / Caca Bueno
Full Time 1/Medley – Marcos Gomes / Xandinho Negrão
Boetgner/Itaipava – David Muffato / Luciano Burti
AMG – Atila Abreu / ???
Officer Pro GP – Duda Pamplona / Felipe Maluhy
A.Matheis – Alceu Feldman / Popo Bueno
RCM – Lico Kaesemodel / Thiago Camilo
Full Time 2/Cosan – Nono Figueiredo / Valdeno Brito
Hot Car – Giuliano Losacco / Eduardo Leite
Vogel – Tuka Rocha / Allam Khodair
Scuderia 111 – Julio Campos / Alam Hellmeister
Amir Nasr – Willian Starostik / Alberto Valério
RZ Cristal Racing – Ricardo Zonta / Claudio Ricci
Bassani Racing – Diego Nunes / Denis Navarro
JF Racing – Rodrigo Navarro / Rodrigo Sperafico

Schedule:
Curitiba - March 20th (together with WTCC round)
Interlagos - April 3rd
Ribeirão Preto Street Circuit - April 17th
Velopark - May 15th
Campo Grande - June 6th
Jacarepaguá - July 3rd
Interlagos - August 8th
Salvador Street Circuit - September 4th
Santa Cruz do Sul - September 18th
Londrina - October 2nd
Brasília - October 16th
Velopark - November 6th



Itaipava GT

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Brazilian GT3 and GT4 will have the following schedule:
Interlagos - April 10th
Anhembi - May 1st (together with Indycar)
Santa Cruz do Sul - May 22nd Curitiba - May 22nd
Londrina - June 6th Santa Cruz do Sul - June 6th
Campo Grande - July 24th Curitiba - July 24th
Jacarepaguá - August 28th
Interlagos - September 11th
Curitiba - October 23rd Campo Grande - October 23rd
San Luís (Argentina) - November 6th Londrina - November 13th
Interlagos - December 18th



Racing Festival: Troféu Linea / Fórmula Futuro

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Schedule:
Interlagos - May 8th
Brasília - June 12th
Londrina - July 17th
Interlagos - August 14th
Curitiba - September 25th
Velopark - October 30th



Fórmula Truck

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Schedule:
Santa Cruz do Sul - February 27th
Jacarepaguá - April 3rd
Caruaru - May 15th
Goiânia - June 5th
Interlagos - July 3rd
Londrina - August 7th
Buenos Aires (Argentina) - September 4th
Guaporé - October 9th
Curitiba - November 6th
Brasília - December 4th



Copa Petrobrás de Marcas

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Schedule:
Curitiba - May 29th
Tarumã - June 12th
São Paulo - July 17th
Jacarepaguá - July 31st
Velopark - August 21st
Jacarepaguá - September 25th
Brasília - October 30th
Curitiba - November 20th



F3 Sudam

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Schedule:
Velopark - March 27th
Santa Fé (Argentina) - April 24th
Londrina - May 29th
Jacarepaguá - June 19th
Caruaru - July 17th
Interlagos - August 28th
Curitiba - September 11th
Piriápolis (Uruguay) - October 2nd
Brasília - October 30th

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 11:55

I'm still surprised the F3 Codasur hasn't disappeared after a decade of decadence.
Hopefully in the future we can see the Copa de Marcas and TC2000 making races together, that if they have the exact same rules, of course.
¿Are the GT cars built in Brazil or just imported European GT3s?

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 23:37

I'm still surprised the F3 Codasur hasn't disappeared after a decade of decadence.

It is supported by Petrobras for a while now, and it became a Brazilian F3 (kind of), grids are very small, the last relevant champion was a Piquet Jr(!) in 2002 and it is badly covered.
I believe that the only reason for its continued existence it's that it was for many years the only survival open wheel series in Brazil, and it still cheaper than moving to Europe. As sponsorship is always very difficult, wining it may attract one or other sponsor, and could be a chance to arriving at British or Italian F3 with some experience.

But at the end I think it's the drivers. Only that. Those kids that want to move to start a career in Europe but are unable at the moment.

Hopefully in the future we can see the Copa de Marcas and TC2000 making races together, that if they have the exact same rules, of course.

That would be great, and I believe that there's some forces moving in this direction. It would be unwise not to do so.
But everything about this new series still very secretive. Tomorrow the category will be officially launched, some drivers of Stockcar will be announced and I hope that the full regs will be disclosed. The season will start on May and it wasn't revealed to the public if all cars will be raced with Berta's.

¿Are the GT cars built in Brazil or just imported European GT3s?

AFAIK, its a mix of both.
Some cars are "of the shelve" and some others are kind of customized here.
All of them are imported GT3/GT4 models by nature, but as the local regulations vary a bit from the european ones, some modifications can be made. But the main force of Brazilian regs are in order to keep costs down.

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#60 noikeee

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Posted 13 March 2011 - 23:45

There's a bit of a lack of brazilian young talents coming up through the ranks at the moment, no? The only one I can think of right now that looks any good is Felipe Nasr.

#61 highdownforce

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 00:21

Unfortunately, I have to agree with you.

Talking about open wheel, specially F1 latter:

This year there will be five local drivers in F3 (Nars, Cunha, Derani, Fantin and Foresti), Victor Guerin at Italian F3 and Cézar Ramos and andré Negrão at WSR and only Luiz razia at GP2.

This situation has being heavily discussed here in Brazil. I can assure you that a great factor behind all of this is the bad management of the Brazilian Autosport Confederation (CBA) that is beyond ridiculous, the lack of interest in motorsport in general (in the country) and, because of that, the lack of sponsorship.

Another movement that have being quite hurting (paradoxically) is the growth of tourism championships, like stock car for instance. Ezequiel may have a word about it, but I believe that a similar thing has happened in Argentina.

I've said this in this same thread before but I repeat that Austria 2001 and 2002 together with Germany 2010 have disappointed and scared many viewers away. Also, of course, Singapore 2009 killed a lot of respect the the audience had for these gentlemen.

Besides all of this, a whole generation of promises and expectations was 'wasted' before our eyes: B. Senna, NAP, Di Grassi... we may move back to the years of Pizzonia.

The prospect of having one or no driver at F1 is not something unexpected.
Brazil may suddenly become the next France for the sport.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 01:54

^^It could be worse: Brazil could become the new Argentina :well: I think in the end it reduces to the local motor racing management. In Argentina a crucial point was when the Asociación Corredores Turismo Carretera (ACTC) splitted from the Automóvil Club Argentino (ACA). A furious competition started between both with each of them creating "unnecessary" championships to compete against each other. Even in the late 90s the drivers that raced in a series ruled by the ACTC couldn't do it in a series ruled by the ACA and viceversa. Thankfully that ridiculous situation stopped. The thing is that the business of a few was privileged over the quality of the sport so nowadays the big four championships in Argentina are all tin tops and three of them are just too similar: TC2000, Top Race and Turismo Nacional. That is no sport cars, no formula cars (the main championship is Formula Renault with 150 bhp and steel tubular chassis...) and a huge level of standarization (Top Race is a silhouette series, TC2000 has spec engines, same wheelbase for every car, etc.)
Turismo Carretera is the only one with the potential to be HUGE, even internationally I dare to say, but it is so wasted and manipulated that motor racing, once clearly the second more popular sport behind football, nowadays it's not so much popular than tennis or even basketball.
But, maybe considering the situation in other countries, we should be thankfull to have something yet.

I think if we were clever, instead of making a new championship like Copa de Marcas, TC2000 and Stock Car V8 should have continued their collaboration and perhaps doing a DTM+Super GT, unifying the rules, backing up each other to become an international force, not making a single championship but having the chance to make races together, etc. Top Race shouldn't exist and F3 should offer something more spicy and in order to reduce costs they should race with cars developed in Brazil or Argentina (Berta built a carbon fiber monocoque F3 car in the late 80s, I'm sure they could it now) as the euro is overvalued (is that the right word?) in relation to the Real and the Peso (a young Argentine driver said once that with the budget needed to make half a season in F3 Codasur he could make the whole TCPista (feeder series to TC) season)

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 04:54

I got a feeling Cesar Ramos is gonna be Brasil next big shot ! Not bad at all in racing after spending four years as a driver in Italy.
Definitely someone to count on the upcoming WSR season. :up:

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 12:57

I got a feeling Cesar Ramos is gonna be Brasil next big shot ! Not bad at all in racing after spending four years as a driver in Italy.
Definitely someone to count on the upcoming WSR season. :up:

In OW, Ramos is the one for a hold bigger expectations. This WSR season will be crucial for him, this one and next year will be make or break for his aspirations of a career as a top driver.

^^It could be worse: Brazil could become the new Argentina :well: I think in the end it reduces to the local motor racing management. In Argentina a crucial point was when the Asociación Corredores Turismo Carretera (ACTC) splitted from the Automóvil Club Argentino (ACA). A furious competition started between both with each of them creating "unnecessary" championships to compete against each other. Even in the late 90s the drivers that raced in a series ruled by the ACTC couldn't do it in a series ruled by the ACA and viceversa. Thankfully that ridiculous situation stopped.

I believe in it too, unfortunately this is the aspect of the state of affairs with less chance of improvement.
Deep corruption and unbearable incompetence dooms any chance of a stable, organized and respectable championship. This is the main reason for sponsors not wanting to risk their precious money in a category. That's also why homologation of even a kart project is so expensive and also why tons of money are wasted in every possible way bar the necessary ones. If it was expensive but effective I wouldn't complain, but we had deaths last year related to lack of inspection and regularization. Some federations inside the confederation are antagonistic rivals, some are too much privileged in detriment of others and some federatios barely exist as an organized entity.

And it's not only about them, the main tracks are state owned and the conservation of these tracks is dreadful, really horrible. Jacarepaguá was abandoned beyond recuperation, some tracks are dangerous and even Interlagos just looks good once in a year (see the grass).

In the past, we had a serious Brazilian F1 team with a Brazilian champion behind the wheel and this project perished because of lack of sponsors, I'm always surprised that some companies are keen to invest in championships as bad organized as those we have here.

[...]Turismo Carretera is the only one with the potential to be HUGE, even internationally I dare to say, but it is so wasted and manipulated that motor racing, once clearly the second more popular sport behind football, nowadays it's not so much popular than tennis or even basketball.
But, maybe considering the situation in other countries, we should be thankfull to have something yet.

More and more F1 is becoming a geek thing here.

I think if we were clever, instead of making a new championship like Copa de Marcas, TC2000 and Stock Car V8 should have continued their collaboration and perhaps doing a DTM+Super GT, unifying the rules, backing up each other to become an international force, not making a single championship but having the chance to make races together, etc. Top Race shouldn't exist and F3 should offer something more spicy and in order to reduce costs they should race with cars developed in Brazil or Argentina (Berta built a carbon fiber monocoque F3 car in the late 80s, I'm sure they could it now) as the euro is overvalued (is that the right word?) in relation to the Real and the Peso (a young Argentine driver said once that with the budget needed to make half a season in F3 Codasur he could make the whole TCPista (feeder series to TC) season)

That would be the final solution, I believe: technical independence. It's unconceivable to me that nowhere in South America could exist a viable solution for production of cheaper monocoques. Carbon fiber stills a rare thing! As you've said, TC2000 and Copa de Marcas should have strictly the same regs, but more relaxed. Stock car is more a NASCAR wannabe, let they follow that path, its truly relevant path ended when Mitsubishi and Volkswagen left the series. Returning, collaboration between both countries, that already healthily exists, should be more encouraged. That could keep costs down and develop the engineering quality of the professionals of both sides of border.

For now this stills a utopia, but any good change is welcomed.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 16:41

Here we go...

Copa Petrobrás de Marcas announces:
- three manufactures Honda (Civic), GM (Astra, WTF?!) and Ford (Fucus);
- 280hp spec Berta engines with Xtrac gearboxes.
- Pirelli PZero;
- Plans to become a South American series!
- 20 cars confirmed;
- Six teams already announced: Bassani Racing, Officer ProGP, AMG, Full Time, Via Itália e Carlos Alves' team;
- Format: 2x 25min races on Sundays.
- Season cost on a R$ 550.000 (Euros 236k, US 330k, 1.330.000 pesos) average;

Cars:

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Comments:

- Third manufacturer is not VW and not Toyota, its Ford, kind of unexpected for me;
- Astra?! Really Chevrolet?! I'm guessing they will be replaced by Chevy Cruze next season, the car is yet to be launched for Brazilian market. Awkward anyway;
- I'm kind of unimpressed at the moment, specially with the weekend format;
- More expensive than I've thought;
- Kia preferred to sponsor football, Fiat was uneasy because of their already established Troféu Linea,, VW and Toyota probably don't give a damn about it.


Edit: PDF release (pt-BR).

Edited by highdownforce, 14 March 2011 - 17:28.


#66 Lotusseven

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 21:08

[quote name='highdownforce' date='Mar 14 2011, 13:57' post='4894176']
In OW, Ramos is the one for a hold bigger expectations. This WSR season will be crucial for him, this one and next year will be make or break for his aspirations of a career as a top driver.

agree.


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Posted 16 March 2011 - 14:12

So, Alberto Valério headed back to Stock car with after abandoning GP2.
No money for anything else, I believe.

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 16:35

This thread has NOT lived up to the promise shown by its title....

:)

#69 highdownforce

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Posted 21 March 2011 - 11:47

Copa Caixa Stock Car Brasil Curitiba

Race Result
01. Thiago Camilo - RCM Motorsport - 32 laps
02. Max Wilson - Eurofarma RC - 1s723
03. Ricardo Zonta - Crystal Racing - 2s088
04. Átila Abreu - AMG Motorsport - 10s933
05. Luciano Burti - Itaipava Boettger - 13s659
06. Popó Bueno - A. Mattheis - 13s713
07. Júlio Campos - Scuderia 111 - 19s560
08. David Muffato - Itaipava Boettger - 19s768
09. Duda Pamplona - Officer ProGP - 20s613
10. Giuliano Losacco - Hot Car - 27s666
11. Cacá Bueno - Red Bull - 37s456
12. Felipe Maluhy - Officer ProGP - 39s166
13. Eduardo Leite - Hot Car - 41s280
14. Marcos Gomes - Meldey Full Time - 42s549
15. Daniel Serra - Red Bull - 43s983
16. Rodrigo Sperafico - JF Racing - 46s425
17. Cláudio Ricci - Crystal Racing - 49s828
18. Diego Nunes - Bassani Racing - 54s410
19. Alceu Feldmann - A. Mattheis - 1min04s314
20. Denis Navarro - Bassani Racing - 1min05s007
21. Tuka Rocha - Vogel Motorsport - 1 lap
22. Rodrigo Navarro - JF Racing - 1 lap
23. Allam Khodair - Vogel Motorsport - 1 lap
24. Willian Starostik - AMG Motorsport - 1 lap
25. Alan Hellmeister - Scuderia 111 - 2 laps
26. Valdeno Brito - Esso Mobil Super Racing - DNF
27. Ricardo Maurício - Eurofarma RC - DNF
28. Alberto Valério - AMG Motorsport - DNF
29. Lico Kaesemodel - RCM Motorsport - DNF
30. Nonô Figueiredo - Esso Mobil Super Racing - DNF
31. Xandinho Negrão - Medley Full Time - DNF

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Teams Classification
01. RCM Motorsport - 25 pts
02. Eurofarma RC – 20
03. Itaipava Racing Team – 20
04. Crystal Racing – 16
05. AMG – 14
06. Officer ProGP - 11
07. A.Mattheis - 10
08. Scuderia 111 - 9
09. Hot Car - 9
10. Red Bull - 6
11. Medley/Full Time - 2
12. JF Racing - 0
13. Bassani Racing - 0
14. Vogel Motorsport - 0
15. Amir Nasr - 0
16. Mobil Esso/Full Time - 0
* Last two teams are relegated to Copa Monta (trucks)

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#70 Lotusseven

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Posted 21 March 2011 - 12:01

@ highdownforce Great pics ! Thanks for sharing :up:

#71 highdownforce

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Posted 21 March 2011 - 12:08

@ highdownforce Great pics ! Thanks for sharing :up:

You're welcomed!

#72 madrocker

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Posted 21 March 2011 - 13:56

What do you guys make of the Stock Car simulator that is due to come out from Reiza Studios ?

http://www.virtualr....dios-announced/

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#73 highdownforce

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Posted 21 March 2011 - 14:22

What do you guys make of the Stock Car simulator that is due to come out from Reiza Studios ?

http://www.virtualr....dios-announced/

They are a little late, this should have came out by December last year, IIRC. But now we finally have a date for April.
AFAIK, it uses rfactor engine, so those familiarized with this plataform won't have problems to give it a chance.
The great merit of this sim is to portrait the Brazilian tracks, many of them to very well known out side the country. I just don't beleive that those tracks will be pictured on their true state of conservation.

Anyway, it's always good to have this kind of project. And that picture of Cacá Bueno's Red Bull car in Jacarepagua shows that the game is surprisingly very detailed.

#74 highdownforce

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Posted 11 April 2011 - 16:17

Itaipava GT Brasil Interlagos 2011

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(Race start + Senna's S)
(pit lane)

Race 1 - Saturday
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Race 2 - Sunday
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*Dark blue = GT3, light blue = GT4

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#75 ezequiel

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Posted 11 April 2011 - 17:36

Maybe the pictures deceive me, but I remember how the Stcok Car V8 cars looked a few years ago and they seemed to have improved a lot in general "presentation" (I assume the same in construction quality)

#76 highdownforce

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Posted 11 April 2011 - 19:21

Teh cars were updated for the 2009 season following safety concerns after Sperafico's death in 2007.
Here there is a good article in English about it. http://www.racecar-e...of-copa-nextel/
Those car had their engines updated since them, IIRC they're on 520-540hp for now.

Peugeot's bubble have being updated for this season, and I've noted a growing trend in livery efforts too with some publicity companies specialized on this kind of branding. Now there are even livery presentation events for some teams. This movement is starting to grown in GT3 too.

I've the impression that the cars from Copa Montana (Stock car second division and Sondermann's series) were the ones if greatest aesthetics improvements but still being really outdated cars when safety is concerned.

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 20:23

Are you guys following British F3? It seems like a pretty good start for F.Nasr, is that kid going to win every lower formula title?

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 21:02

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 12:59

I popped off to see British F3 yesterday and I was rather impressed with what Nasr is doing so far this year. Apart from Race two yesterday, Nasr has been faultless this season. Foresti looks very promising as well, looked great at Oulton and both possible stars in the making. :up:

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#80 highdownforce

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 13:27

I popped off to see British F3 yesterday and I was rather impressed with what Nasr is doing so far this year. Apart from Race two yesterday, Nasr has been faultless this season. Foresti looks very promising as well, looked great at Oulton and both possible stars in the making. :up:

They are very good prospects indeed. Both are on their second year on Britsh F3 (Nasr was 5th and Foresti 13th in 2010). Nasr now with Carlin is expected to walk it. Besides his contacts with Double R suggests that he has a path to GP2 secured (if everything works good), he is also the is the only one from the four Brazilian to have an European title (F-BMW Europe). Foresti doesn't have this kind of connections by now, but we expect him to have some luck this year in these matters.

It's a good surprise to have them in good form.



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Edit: Btw, I haven't posted about Stock Car Brasil lately. I've no time for a photo compilation, but I'll give you some videos:

(Átila Abreu, race winner, on board)
(Official broadcast, last 15min)
(Local TV promotional)

Edited by highdownforce, 29 April 2011 - 21:49.


#81 highdownforce

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Posted 29 April 2011 - 21:46

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This weekend we'll have São Paulo Indy 300 but also the very first street race for Brazilian GT3 and GT4.
I must say that I'm curious to see how GT3 will perform on the marginal straight - drivers are talking about 250-270 km/h - and also how all those cars will negotiate T1.

Schedule (all times in GMT-3):

Saturday, April 30th
7h15 - 8h15 - GT Brasil FP1
8h30 - 9h45 - São Paulo Indy 300 FP1
10h05 - 10h35 - GT Brasil FP2
12h00 - 13h00 - São Paulo Indy 300 FP2
13h15 - 13h45 - GT Brasil Qualify 1
15h00 - 16h15 - São Paulo Indy 300 Qualify
16h30 - 17h40 - GT Brasil Race 1

Sunday, May 1st
7h45 - 8h15 - GT Brasil Qualify 2
8h30 - 9h00 - São Paulo Indy 300 Warm up
10h45 - 11h55 - GT Brasil Race 2
13h00 - 15h35 - São Paulo Indy 300 Race


Cars and drivers
- GT3
- GT4


[ video ] April 10th Interlagos race start

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#82 highdownforce

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Posted 02 May 2011 - 22:27

:love:


The Ferrari 458 GT3 as seen this weekend on Anhembi: http://neitessari.fi...le-position.jpg (hi-res)
On board video:

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Posted 03 May 2011 - 05:37

Bruno Senna On Board R30 during WSR at Spa Francorchamps

#84 highdownforce

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Posted 03 May 2011 - 20:16

Looks like someone else was interested on the 458 Italia GT3...

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 16:26

Copa Petrobrás finally has its website: http://brasileirodemarcas.com.br/

Confirmed drivers:

Driver / Team / Car
Thiago Marques AMG Motorport / Chevrolet Astra
Átila Abreu / AMG Motorport / Chevrolet Astra
Thiago Camilo / Carlos Alves Comp. / Chevrolet Astra
Galid Osman / Carlos Alves Comp. / Chevrolet Astra
Pedro Gomes / Micos Racing / Chevrolet Astra
??? / Micos Racing / Chevrolet Astra
Fábio Fogaça / ProGP / Ford Focus
Andersom Toso / ProGP / Ford Focus
??? / Amir / Ford Focus
??? / Amir / Ford Focus
Alceu Feldmann / Full Time Sports / Honda Civic
Fábio Carbone / Full Time Sports / Honda Civic
Daniel Serra / Serra Motorsports / Honda Civic
??? / Serra Motorsports / Honda Civic
??? / Bassani Racing / Toyota Corolla
??? / Bassani Racing / Toyota Corolla


Pic gallery: http://brasileirodem...ria-fotos-2011/

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 20:26

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Brasileiro de Marcas, a.k.a. Copa Petrobrás de Marcas, has finally debut this season, at Tarumã/RS with 20 cars.

I haven't watched the race but the reception seams to be pretty positive. The cars look quite clean at the moment without many stickers as I've imagined but it can be successful. Are those already jumping the gun and saying that maybe this championship has the potential to kill the Copa Montana series, but as this championships are organized by the same group (also the same as Stock Car) I don't see this happening.

Anyway, it's good to see bug names from Brazilian Tourism series involved. And despite being less powerful cars - sourced from TC2000 - when compared to Stock Car's monsters - this series could attract more attention in the future, with its full coverage and better link with the road cars image.

Qualifying
##. Driver - Car - Team - Lap
01. Valdeno Brito - Chevrolet Astra – Mico’s – 1min08s248
02. Juliano Moro - Honda Civic – Auto Racing – 1min08s320
03. Daniel Serra - Honda Civic – Serra Motorsport – 1min08s430
04. Atila Abreu - Chevrolet Astra – AMG – 1min08s641
05. Thiago Marques - Chevrolet Astra – AMG – 1min09s185
06. Fábio Carbone - Honda Civic – Full Time – 1min09s245
07. Gustavo Martins/Wilson Pinheiro - Ford Focus – Amir Nasr – 1min09s254
08. Alceu Feldmann - Honda Civic – Full Time – 1min09s282
09. José Cordova - Ford Focus – Amir Nasr – 1min09s393
10. Anderson Toso/Fábio Fogaça - Ford Focus – Officer ProGP – 1min09s393
11. Willian Freire - Corolla – Bassani Racing – 1min09s657
12. Rodrigo Miguel - Corolla – Bassani Racing – 1min09s701
13. Sérgio Jimenez - Corolla – Bassani Racing – 1min09s752
14. Duda Pamplona - Ford Focus – Officer ProGP – 1min09s887
15. Denis Navarro - Corolla – Bassani Racing – 1min09s891
16. Wellington Justino - Chevrolet Astra - Mico’s – 1min10s512
17. Cristiano de Almeida - Honda Civic – Auto Racing – 1min11s971
18. Carlos Padovan - Honda Civic – Serra Motorsport – 1min12s036
19. Thiago Camilo - Chevrolet Astra – Carlos Alves – no time recorded
20. Galid Osman - Chevrolet Astra – Carlos Alves – no time recorded

Race 1
##. Driver - Car - Team
01. Valdeno Brito - Chevrolet Astra – Mico’s
02. Daniel Serra - Honda Civic – Serra Motorsport
03. Thiago Marques - Chevrolet Astra – AMG
04. Alceu Feldmann - Honda Civic – Full Time
05. Fábio Carbone - Honda Civic – Full Time
06. José Cordova - Ford Focus – Amir Nasr
07. Thiago Camilo - Chevrolet Astra – Carlos Alves
08. Rodrigo Miguel - Corolla – Bassani Racing
09. Gustavo Martins - Ford Focus – Amir Nasr
10. Galid Osman - Chevrolet Astra – Carlos Alves
11. Juliano Moro - Honda Civic – Auto Racing
12. Carlos Padovan - Honda Civic – Serra Motorsport
13. Wellington Justino - Chevrolet Astra - Mico’s
14. Willian Freire - Corolla – Bassani Racing – DNF
15. Duda Pamplona - Ford Focus – Officer ProGP – DNF
16. Cristiano de Almeida - Honda Civic – Auto Racing – DNF
17. Sérgio Jimenez - Corolla – Bassani Racing – DNF
18. Denis Navarro - Corolla – Bassani Racing – DNF
19. Fábio Fogaça - Ford Focus – Officer ProGP – DNF
20. Atila Abreu - Chevrolet Astra – AMG – DSQ

Race 2
##. Driver - Car - Team
01. Thiago Camilo - Chevrolet Astra – Carlos Alves
02. Daniel Serra - Honda Civic – Serra Motorsport
03. Rodrigo Miguel - Corolla – Bassani Racing
04. Alceu Feldmann - Honda Civic – Full Time
05. Thiago Marques - Chevrolet Astra – AMG
06. Fábio Carbone - Honda Civic – Full Time
07. Galid Osman - Chevrolet Astra – Carlos Alves
08. Wellington Justino - Chevrolet Astra - Mico’s
09. Sérgio Jimenez - Corolla – Bassani Racing
10. José Cordova - Ford Focus – Amir Nasr
11. Wilson Pinheiro - Ford Focus – Amir Nasr
12. Anderson Toso - Ford Focus – Officer ProGP
13. Carlos Padovan - Honda Civic – Serra Motorsport
14. Juliano Moro - Honda Civic – Auto Racing – DNF
15. Atila Abreu - Chevrolet Astra – AMG – DNF
16. Cristiano de Almeida - Honda Civic – Auto Racing – DNF
17. Willian Freire - Corolla – Bassani Racing – DNF
18. Valdeno Brito - Chevrolet Astra – Mico’s – DNF
--. Duda Pamplona - Ford Focus – Officer ProGP – DNS
--. Denis Navarro - Corolla – Bassani Racing – DNS


Drivers Championship
##. Driver - Car - Team - Points
01. Daniel Serra - Honda Civic – Serra Motorsport - 40pts
02. Thiago Camilo - Chevrolet Astra – Carlos Alves - 34
03. Alceu Feldmann - Honda Civic – Full Time - 28
04. Thiago Marques - Chevrolet Astra – AMG - 25
05. Valdeno Brito - Chevrolet Astra – Mico’s – 25
06. Rodrigo Miguel - Corolla – Bassani Racing - 24
07. Fábio Carbone - Honda Civic – Full Time - 22
08. José Cordova - Ford Focus – Amir Nasr - 16
09. Galid Osman - Chevrolet Astra – Carlos Alves - 15
10. Gustavo Martins/Wilson Pinheiro - Ford Focus – Amir Nasr - 12
11. Wellington Justino - Chevrolet Astra - Mico’s - 10
12. Sérgio Jimenez - Corolla – Bassani Racing - 7
13. Carlos Padovan - Honda Civic – Serra Motorsport - 6
14. Juliano Moro - Honda Civic – Auto Racing – 5
15. Anderson Toso/Fábio Fogaça - Ford Focus – Officer ProGP - 4
16. Atila Abreu - Chevrolet Astra – AMG – 4
--. Cristiano de Almeida - Honda Civic – Auto Racing
--. Willian Freire - Corolla – Bassani Racing
--. Duda Pamplona - Ford Focus – Officer ProGP
--. Denis Navarro - Corolla – Bassani Racing

Manufacturers Championship (Only 2 best results per Manufacturer)
01. Chevrolet – 78 pts
02. Honda – 68
--. Toyota - 31 ***
03. Ford – 28
*** Bassani Racing's Toyotas run as privateers and theirs points doesn't count here.

Teams Championship
01. Full Time Sports – 50 pts
02. Carlos Alves Competições - 49
03. Serra Motorsport - 46
04. Mico’s Racing – 35
05. AMG – 32
06. Amir Nasr – 26
07. Bassani Racing (2) – 25
08. Bassani Racing (1) – 7
09. Auto Racing – 5
10. Officer ProGP – 4

Edited by highdownforce, 20 June 2011 - 20:27.


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Posted 20 June 2011 - 22:03

Hello Highdownforce,

thanks for bringing this info´s to the forum.
Do you know what the engine situation in the new series is?
Is it similar to TC2000, mean different engines from different tuners, or is it like StockCar,
where all teams use a common (controled) engine.
Are the Hondas using NBE Honda engines and the Cheverolets Spiess (Opel) engines (like in TC2000)
or are they all Berta Fords based engines like in Sudam F3?

Does Copa Petrobrás de Marcas has any good TV coverage like StockCar on Globo or is it more like GT3?

Thanks & keep up the good work

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 22:09

Hi, TC3000. I'm sorry for not seeing your reply earlier, but I'll try to help you this late anyway.

Unfortunately , TC2000 currently uses also spec Berta engines, the very same used for the Brasileiro de Marcas. IIRC, based on those F3 ones.

About TV coverage, it's actually the same situation: In 2010 GT3 was on RedeTV, but now it's with Band and Speed. Now it's Copa Petrobrás that has the coverage from RedeTV. First race is shown in video tape and the second one is broadcasted live.

I hope this information stills helpful for you!

• • •

Btw, this weekend we'll have the 6th round of Stock Car in Jacarepaguá, it's possibly the last (or one of the last) time that StockCar races in the circuit.
The championship is currently tainted after the Red Bull Racing Team have been unfairly penalized because of an error on the speed limit detection on the pit lane on the last round.

RBR had complained about dodge or mistaken decisions from the federation last year and they had already threated to abandoning the series. For this race, the team will sport a black livery in sign of protest against both the promoters and the confederation.

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The written message on the cars translates as 'race is on the track'.

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Posted 01 July 2011 - 15:52

I've felt compelled to post these pictures here:

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This is Xandinho Negrão Medley Full Time Sports' car at Morro do Adeus, within the Complexo do Alemão on one of Stock Car PR events.

Edit: Off course it's a PR event where Military hellicopters where used for security, off course the city lobby wants to save its face, off course the situation changed but it's far from ideal... But even then seeing one of these cars parked in a place that one of locals described as where executions were done is a strong image.

Edited by highdownforce, 01 July 2011 - 15:56.


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Posted 01 July 2011 - 16:54

Thanks Highdownforce,
your effort & help is much appriciated.
I did not know, that TC2000 now runs on common/mandated engines as well.
It´s a bit sad, but I guess good from a cost perspective.

I have got the same information, you give me here, it´s a common Berta engine
for all, from what I hear a bit less powerful then the TC2000 engine.
But I´m not sure about.

Obrigado


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Posted 01 July 2011 - 17:04

Thanks Highdownforce,
your effort & help is much appriciated.
I did not know, that TC2000 now runs on common/mandated engines as well.
It´s a bit sad, but I guess good from a cost perspective.

I have got the same information, you give me here, it´s a common Berta engine
for all, from what I hear a bit less powerful then the TC2000 engine.
But I´m not sure about.

Obrigado

De nada!

The technical side of things from the Brasileiro de Marcas is quite masonic.
As a matter of fact, everything about this series stills half obscure to the general public, not much is talked about it.
I believe that this tren will possibly change with time but even journalists seen to be taken by surprise with some news of the series.

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 14:34

Questions to Brazilian members:
  • What's up with Cervejaria Petrópolis (Itaipava, TNT, ...) ceasing to sponsor motorsport? Is this really goint to happen?
  • What is the reason behind? And BVA?
  • What can we expect for the GT3Br and GT4Br future?
  • How about São Paulo Indy 300?
  • Kanaan, Castroneves, and other drivers?
  • How big may be the impact this can deliver over motorsport down here?


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Posted 20 July 2011 - 14:26

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R.I.P. Sid Mosca.

Cloacyr Sidney Mosca died today at the age of 74, Sid Mosca was aerographer and designer of helmets for Emerson Fittipaldi, Nelson Piquet, Keke Rosberg, Ayrton Senna, Maurício Gugelmin, Roberto Moreno, Christian Fittipaldi, Rubens Barrichello, Tony Kanaan, Ricardo Zonta, Luciano Burti, Felipe Massa and Bruno Senna among many others.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 21:35

What do you guys make of the Stock Car simulator that is due to come out from Reiza Studios ?

http://www.virtualr....dios-announced/


Here it is, finally lauched: http://www.game-stoc...om.br/Home.aspx

License for $30.

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Amazing detail of the tracks.





• • •

By the way, I've almost forgotten it, one ex-f1 driver may race the August 7th round "Corrida do Milhão" of Stock Car at Interlagos. The organization of the series, Vicar, is contacting Pedro Lamy and ..... Jacques Villeneuve!

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 20:37

HA! History Channel will start airing Top Gear next monday, 20h00!

EDIT: Here in BR, I mean.

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 21:59

HA! History Channel will start airing Top Gear next monday, 20h00!

EDIT: Here in BR, I mean.

Hey, that's great!!

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 13:59

Here it is, finally lauched: http://www.game-stoc...om.br/Home.aspx

License for $30.

Amazing detail of the tracks.



I'll wait till they release a Xbox360 version. If they do.



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Posted 29 July 2011 - 14:18

HA! History Channel will start airing Top Gear next monday, 20h00!

EDIT: Here in BR, I mean.


the British or the American version? I think the American version was/is made by History Channel,



I'll wait till they release a Xbox360 version. If they do.


I don't think so, this is more like a "hardcore" PC sim, and they are very small (Reiza), so I don't think they could make it viable to spend money making it work on the Xbox, paying fees to MS for a game that have a limited audience in my opinion...

but the game is very well made and detailed, 30 USD is quite cheap, if you have a good steering wheel,

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Posted 29 July 2011 - 14:24

if you have a good steering wheel,


I do, in my Xbox (specially bought to play F1 2010).


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Posted 29 July 2011 - 14:39

the British or the American version? I think the American version was/is made by History Channel,

The add shows a guy driving downhill against some skiers in a red Mitsubishi, so I think it's the US version.