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#1 Pato

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 14:56

Would like to see some opinions on this

I'd probably say Christian Albers after the incident where he ignored the lollipop in the pits and drove off.

I still think there is nobody else in motorsport who is as thick as James Toseland. Watch him on Question of Sport and you'll see why.

Edited by Pato, 06 August 2009 - 14:57.


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#2 UPRC

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 14:57

Taki Inoue for not avoiding the medical car.

#3 Scudetto

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 15:03

Not particularly fair to label an F1 driver as the "dumbest."

Perhaps the better question would be "Worst episode of brain fade."

#4 DarthWillie

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 15:13

Jean Alesi, running out of fuel in Melbourne despite several pitboards and his team doing the mexican wave on the pitwall to atract his attention :rotfl:

#5 mursuka80

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 15:13

Not particularly fair to label an F1 driver as the "dumbest."

Perhaps the better question would be "Worst episode of brain fade."


Worst episode of brain fade is not fair to others,because MS wins hands down :D Monaco 2006 is worst i have ever seen.

#6 senna da silva

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 16:01

Nigel Mansell, for turning off his car when waving to the crowd before passing the finish line.

Fernando Alonso's ignoring of the yellow flags at the Brazilian GP ranks right up there for stupidity as well.

Edited by senna da silva, 06 August 2009 - 16:03.


#7 Orin

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 16:09

Jean Alesi, running out of fuel in Melbourne despite several pitboards and his team doing the mexican wave on the pitwall to atract his attention :rotfl:


No, that was more likely down to a belief in God. :o


I agree with Scudetto, 'brain fade' might have been a better question.

#8 senna da silva

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 16:11

I agree with Scudetto, 'brain fade' might have been a better question.


Actually most drivers are pretty thick. Talented, but not too bright.

Edited by senna da silva, 06 August 2009 - 16:12.


#9 stevvy1986

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 16:15

Hamilton's brain fade in the Montreal pitlane

#10 Orin

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 16:19

Actually most drivers are pretty thick. Talented, but not too bright.


The OP is asking for this biggest example of brain fade and it would have been better to label the thread as such. Were it really a thread about the driver with the lowest intellect it wouldn't have been either particularly interesting. I doubt most drivers are thick, though not many have excelled academically.

#11 George Costanza

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 16:22

The OP is asking for this biggest example of brain fade and it would have been better to label the thread as such. Were it really a thread about the driver with the lowest intellect it wouldn't have been either particularly interesting. I doubt most drivers are thick, though not many have excelled academically.



I think Marc Gene has an economic degree, right?

#12 primer

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 16:24

DC had his moments. But it is not fair to say he was or is dumb. I cannot think of one driver in past few years who would qualify as dumb.

#13 FI-Addict

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 16:27

Former F1 driver Jean Alesi for this - .
Ok it's not in F1 but it's still brain fade, or a bit of cheating :p

#14 Orin

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 16:33

I think Marc Gene has an economic degree, right?


That rings a bell. And Rosberg was set for a top Uni (LSE?) before committing to driving. Many drivers come across as intelligent: Hill, Lauda, Prost, Senna, Coulthard, Stewart, ...

EDIT: FI-Addict great clip :rotfl:

Edited by Orin, 06 August 2009 - 16:35.


#15 Frans

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 16:45

I'd also go for Albers.

But Bernoldi is a close second.... :lol:

#16 Arioch

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 16:50

Fernando Alonso's ignoring of the yellow flags at the Brazilian GP ranks right up there for stupidity as well.


This, sweet baby jesus this!

#17 SpamJet

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 16:53

Former F1 driver Jean Alesi for this - .
Ok it's not in F1 but it's still brain fade, or a bit of cheating :p


That wasnt dumb, that was hilarious.

#18 Crazy Ninja

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 16:58

Former F1 driver Jean Alesi for this - .
Ok it's not in F1 but it's still brain fade, or a bit of cheating :p


Best clip ive seen in a long long time!!

#19 BMW_F1

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 16:58

Nigel Mansell, for turning off his car when waving to the crowd before passing the finish line.


seriously, how can anything top this..

"Mansell led going into the final lap, but did not complete it. While waving to the crowd at the hairpin near the finish he allowed his revs to drop and the Renault V10 cut out. Piquet, running second for Benetton, could scarcely believe his luck. It was a sweet victory for the Brazilian, who had a turbulent relationship with Mansell when they were team-mates at Williams..

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#20 Brawn BGP 001

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 16:59

Former F1 driver Jean Alesi for this - .
Ok it's not in F1 but it's still brain fade, or a bit of cheating :p

That's genious. :p

#21 OfficeLinebacker

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 17:01

Nigel Mansell, for turning off his car when waving to the crowd before passing the finish line.

Fernando Alonso's ignoring of the yellow flags at the Brazilian GP ranks right up there for stupidity as well.


The one where his stupidity/arrogance/whatever caused him an injury and brought out the red flag? Agreed it's up there if not the summit of just poor form.

#22 Crestie

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 17:02

I wouldn't say any of them are dumb. Most of them can speak 2, 3 or even 4 languages in some cases. Pretty impressive tbh.

#23 D.M.N.

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 17:05

Ralf Schumacher for cutting the chicane at Suzuka three times in the same race?

#24 OfficeLinebacker

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 17:05

Hamilton's brain fade in the Montreal pitlane


Ooh yeah that's a good one. Not as dangerous as Alonso's, but it affected others' fortunes in the race so that's serious.

#25 Atreiu

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 17:09

Alonso at Interlagos 2003 wasn't a typical brain fade, IIRC, he was racing to complete the lap and see if he could gain time and/or pass anyone. It was more like a ridiculous gamble with terrible outcome.

I'm still puzzled by Schumacher racing with inters when it was dry at Hungaroring in 2006. Any conventional strategy with a pit stop for dry tyres would have kept him in the points with the podium at sight. He threw it away and came home with only a point after Kubica was disqualified. And it's not like it was 50/50, the track was dry, Alonso was out and the points lost were crucial to the championship.

Kimi crashing into Liuzzi that day was a monumental brain fade.

#26 OfficeLinebacker

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 17:25

Alonso at Interlagos 2003 wasn't a typical brain fade, IIRC, he was racing to complete the lap and see if he could gain time and/or pass anyone. It was more like a ridiculous gamble with terrible outcome.

I'm still puzzled by Schumacher racing with inters when it was dry at Hungaroring in 2006. Any conventional strategy with a pit stop for dry tyres would have kept him in the points with the podium at sight. He threw it away and came home with only a point after Kubica was disqualified. And it's not like it was 50/50, the track was dry, Alonso was out and the points lost were crucial to the championship.

Kimi crashing into Liuzzi that day was a monumental brain fade.


Now that you mention that, Kimi taking out Sutil in Monaco last year was poor form.

#27 Zmeej

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 17:33

QUOTE (FI-Addict @ Aug 6 2009, 08:27)
Former F1 driver Jean Alesi for this - .
Ok it's not in F1 but it's still brain fade, or a bit of cheating

Spamjet @ Aug 6 later
That wasnt dumb, that was hilarious.


Agree :up: :lol:


Pedro Diniz struck me as one of the dumbest drivers to pull on a helmet.

#28 ex Rhodie racer

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 17:34

Actually most drivers are pretty thick. Talented, but not too bright.

What a really ignorant statement. :down:

#29 highdownforce

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 17:36

seriously, how can anything top this..

"Mansell led going into the final lap, but did not complete it. While waving to the crowd at the hairpin near the finish he allowed his revs to drop and the Renault V10 cut out. Piquet, running second for Benetton, could scarcely believe his luck. It was a sweet victory for the Brazilian, who had a turbulent relationship with Mansell when they were team-mates at Williams..


Williams reported a mechanical failure, but you know...
I'm sure that the memory of that 1991 Canadian GP puts a smile in Piquet Snr's face.

#30 Atreiu

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 17:36

Now that you mention that, Kimi taking out Sutil in Monaco last year was poor form.


Yeah, but there are some 'mitigating' factors: the SC had just came out, tyres weren't properly heated, track was still damp in some places, etc...
At Hungary it was just "WTF just happened"?

#31 Dragonfly

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 17:41

I remember one driver running over the back of another's car with red lights on in the pit lane.

#32 D.M.N.

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 18:00

no one mentioned this?

#33 sreevishnu

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 18:08

I remember one driver running over the back of another's car with red lights on in the pit lane.

:p :lol:

#34 Zmeej

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 18:10

D.M.N. - no one mentioned this?


Not sure that's a matter of stupidity - flies into a chicane and suddenly there's a car wreck on the track and a medical car to its left that has just opened its door...

The announcer is right - Heidfeld is lucky he didn't get his head taken off. :eek:

Edited by Zmeej, 06 August 2009 - 18:12.


#35 metz

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 18:33

Well, The authority on this subject is here...
http://www.f1rejects...hall/index.html
I LMAO with some of these.
Hotly contested for the crown are DC in '95, Hill in '95 and '96 and Mika in '99.

edit: You need to dig a little to find gems like the one for Kling and Kleng in '52

Besides the Kling/Klenk car, Le Mans winner Hermann Lang drove one of the other two cars, and American John Fitch drove the third. Despite attracting big crowds, the Mexican roads weren't always the best to drive on, as shown when Kling and Klenk rounded a corner at over 100mph only to find a buzzard in the middle of the road. The big bird didn't get out of the way in time, and having been hit went straight through the windscreen, smashing into Klenk and inflicting minor injuries to his head. Kling bravely held on until the next refuelling stop, where the windscreen was repaired and the interior cleaned up, but apparently the stench lasted for some time! Just to show Mercedes' professionalism, though, overnight their crew proceeded to fit vertical steel bars across the windscreen to prevent a repeat from happening! What's more, Kling and Klenk went on to win the event.


Edited by metz, 06 August 2009 - 18:53.


#36 dutra

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 18:50

Hard to say the dumbest... DC spun on formation lap from POLE and crashed in pit entrance and both in 1 season! De La Rosa falling from that little wall on US GP was pretty dumb too. Fisichella failing to reach his grid position in Malaysia was funny.

#37 ryan86

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 19:33

On the subject of knowledge I remember being embarrassed for Murray Walker as he did pathetically on Mastermind one year. I know when you are immersed in the sport you perhaps don't take as much knowledge as some of us "geeks" have, but watching him stumble over his specialist subject, F1, was quite embarrassing.



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Posted 06 August 2009 - 19:50

Not sure that's a matter of stupidity - flies into a chicane and suddenly there's a car wreck on the track and a medical car to its left that has just opened its door...

The announcer is right - Heidfeld is lucky he didn't get his head taken off. :eek:


The Ferrari who was well ahead of Heidfeld had NO problem making it through there without so much as breaking traction.

Edited by OfficeLinebacker, 06 August 2009 - 19:53.


#39 Zmeej

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 19:55

Dunno, watch the clip.

Schumi arrived at that chicane at a MUCH lower speed.

Maybe the instructions got through to him more clearly than they did to Nick.

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#40 senna da silva

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 19:57

What a really ignorant statement. :down:


Not at all. Have you had the pleasure of knowing racing drivers or even being one? I have.

#41 senna da silva

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 20:07

Williams reported a mechanical failure, but you know...
I'm sure that the memory of that 1991 Canadian GP puts a smile in Piquet Snr's face.


Mansell was waving to the crowd, the engine revs dropped dramatically, when Nigel went to select a lower gear, the semi-automatic gear box balked and found neutral and since the revs were so desperately low the engine stalled. Driver error because he was faffing about waving to the crowd before he'd actually won the race.

#42 Zmeej

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 20:09

Nige might have been courageous, but he sointanly wasn't the brightest bulb in the paddock. :stoned:


highdownforce :up: :cool:

I'm sure that the memory of that 1991 Canadian GP puts a smile in Piquet Snr's face.


Mine too, actually. Was always rooting for the Brazilian in their altercations - in fact, for the Brazilian in Mansell's altercations with the other one as well. :smoking:

Edited by Zmeej, 06 August 2009 - 20:10.


#43 Schuperman

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 20:19

Former F1 driver Jean Alesi for this - .
Ok it's not in F1 but it's still brain fade, or a bit of cheating :p


:lol: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :up:

It makes my day. Can't decide a brain fade... genius?

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 20:20

Jos Verstappen.

Had everything handed to him to have a great career in F1 and miserably failed.

Loads of silly crashes, remember him hitting Montoya from behind without any reason whatsoever and now a convicted criminal because of what he did to his ex-wife.

Jos the Toss :down:

#45 Enkei

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 20:24

Hard to say the dumbest... DC spun on formation lap from POLE and crashed in pit entrance and both in 1 season! De La Rosa falling from that little wall on US GP was pretty dumb too. Fisichella failing to reach his grid position in Malaysia was funny.


I remember Alonso spinning on the warm-up lap at the Nurburgring this year, for a driver of his caliber, that pretty stupid!
And I think it's not the first time he did that, I just can't remember the other race he spun on the warm-up lap.

#46 postajegenye

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 20:27

Not at all. Have you had the pleasure of knowing racing drivers or even being one? I have.


I know the question was not aimed at me , but let me say that I know several racing drivers who are very intelligent, bright, some of them even with university degrees.
Of course they are in low categories and they are not known around the world - I don't know any F1 drivers personally, but why would F1 drivers be any dumber? Maybe these drivers I know would have achieved more if they had been born in another country with more money. But even so, they would still be intelligent...

They usually don't have degrees, they didn't go to higher education - for pretty logical reasons - but that does not mean that they are dumb. If a brilliantly intelligent youngster decides to finish their studies at 16, they won't be less intelligent afterwards...

Maybe the racing drivers that you know are not too bright, OK, that's your own experience, but you can't say that in general.

#47 Gypsy

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 20:35

Not at all. Have you had the pleasure of knowing racing drivers or even being one? I have.

Most F1 drivers don't have awesome qualifications because their priorities were not academic. But yes, I do know racing drivers, and they're all bright and intelligent people.

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 20:55

I remember Alonso spinning on the warm-up lap at the Nurburgring this year, for a driver of his caliber, that pretty stupid!
And I think it's not the first time he did that, I just can't remember the other race he spun on the warm-up lap.


Not more stupid than crashing into another car at the end of the pitlane having a big ****ing red light in fron of you :p

And that was the first time that Alonso spun in the formation lap , you might be thinking of JPM who did that while driving for McLaren at the beggining og the 2006 season

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 21:03

I remember Alonso spinning on the warm-up lap at the Nurburgring this year, for a driver of his caliber, that pretty stupid!
And I think it's not the first time he did that, I just can't remember the other race he spun on the warm-up lap.


Barcelona 2008, though that was just a half-spin.

Jos Verstappen.

Had everything handed to him to have a great career in F1 and miserably failed.

Loads of silly crashes, remember him hitting Montoya from behind without any reason whatsoever and now a convicted criminal because of what he did to his ex-wife.

Jos the Toss down.gif


Look out! Behind you! It's Frans with an axe in his hand!

Edited by Victor_RO, 06 August 2009 - 21:04.


#50 Ramses1348

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Posted 06 August 2009 - 21:23

Barcelona 2008, though that was just a half-spin.


True, but then this year he finally managed to do a complete spin (i think it was at nurburgring) :stoned:

Edited by Ramses1348, 06 August 2009 - 21:23.