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#1 picblanc

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Posted 23 September 2009 - 22:17

Here are a few of my pics of the BSA & Triumph Triples, most are from the last three years of Classic meetings, but a few period pics from the 1970's also.
Ian Wilcox Snetterton 1975.
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Stu Melling 2008, look at that rear tyre digging in!!
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1971 Race of Aces, Pickrell leads Tait & Smart (yes really!!)
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Tim Woolley 2007
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Loads more to come!! :wave:

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#2 philippe7

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 04:40

Some pics I took at the 2008 Coupes Moto-Légende at the Dijon-Prenois circuit . One at least of Ron Chandler's machines is said to be a "genuine" factory triple that he used in period , but I don't know if it's the Trident or the Rocket 3

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#3 philippe7

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 05:05

An interesting read about the Triples....interviews with Doug Hele and Paul Smart
http://motorbikearch...urrah-1978.html

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 07:28

Ron once told me that his BSA is ex- Jim Rice works bike. Mind you, his Triumph used to be a BSA too...here he's discussing it with Percy Tait and Arthur Jakeman.
http://rides.webshot...GDl?vhost=rides

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 08:22

Some pics I took at the 2008 Coupes Moto-Légende at the Dijon-Prenois circuit . One at least of Ron Chandler's machines is said to be a "genuine" factory triple that he used in period , but I don't know if it's the Trident or the Rocket 3

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The Trident on the left was still being used by him at the beginning of 1974 at the Trans Trophy, by the Powerbike meet in October he was on a TZ700/750 :wave:

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 08:27

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 13:37

Ron once told me that his BSA is ex- Jim Rice works bike. Mind you, his Triumph used to be a BSA too...here he's discussing it with Percy Tait and Arthur Jakeman.
http://rides.webshot...GDl?vhost=rides

Henri-Michel should verify this;The 'real' one has a larger than usual (very large) rear brake,a legacy of when they used to 'flat track' them in the USA,with high bars and NO front brake!!Bloody hell, it frightens the crap out of me just thinking about it.
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#8 Russell Burrows

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 13:49

I spoke to him about the triple at Brands...think he said one has a lower, perhaps different angle steering head,and the joints are brazed ? To be honest, I as more intersted in talking to him about G50's/7R's and Tom Kirby. :)

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 13:58


There've been quite a lot of pics of BSA/Triumph as raced nowadays in our TNF and I've a feeling that the front mudguards are not really fitting. IIRC the works bikes in the seventies didn't have mudguards ? If so, did they race in the wet without them, too ?

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 18:03

There've been quite a lot of pics of BSA/Triumph as raced nowadays in our TNF and I've a feeling that the front mudguards are not really fitting. IIRC the works bikes in the seventies didn't have mudguards ? If so, did they race in the wet without them, too ?



They did Renn, at least that's my recollection. If a fairing is fitted, aren't mudguards cosmetic anyway?

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 18:21

They did Renn, at least that's my recollection. If a fairing is fitted, aren't mudguards cosmetic anyway?


Hi Russ, on second thought I have to agree. My first idea was that an uncovered front wheel would probably transport a lot of spray over the screen towards the rider's face....

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 18:28

Hi Russ, on second thought I have to agree. My first idea was that an uncovered front wheel would probably transport a lot of spray over the screen towards the rider's face....



Hi Renn, I can inderstand watercooled strokers wearing them.... loads of blokes fitted them to other bikes though, even when a fairing was used, makes me begin to think I'm missing something pretty obvious....exposed electrics perhaps? I have to say that I can't recall water being chucked over the fairing screen....but perhaps I wasn't going fast enough. :)

Edited by Russell Burrows, 24 September 2009 - 18:34.


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Posted 24 September 2009 - 18:46

Hi Renn, I can inderstand watercooled strokers wearing them.... loads of blokes fitted them to other bikes though, even when a fairing was used, makes me begin to think I'm missing something pretty obvious....exposed electrics perhaps? I have to say that I can't recall water being chucked over the fairing screen....but perhaps I wasn't going fast enough. :)


You were perfectly tucked in I reckon :up:

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 21:38

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 21:42

Paul Coote (no front mudguard!)
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Posted 24 September 2009 - 21:55

Tell you what Mr Fu :love: , nice to see you on form again :eek: :rolleyes: :lol: good piccies :p

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 06:44

Some pics I took at the 2008 Coupes Moto-Légende at the Dijon-Prenois circuit . One at least of Ron Chandler's machines is said to be a "genuine" factory triple that he used in period , but I don't know if it's the Trident or the Rocket 3

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Hi Philippe, did you peep behind the fairing of the BSA to find out whether the cylinderblock is slightly leaned forward ?

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 08:17

The Trident on the left was still being used by him at the beginning of 1974 at the Trans Trophy, by the Powerbike meet in October he was on a TZ700/750 :wave:


Hi Mr Fu

any info on the blue triple just behind Ron's Rocket 3 in you picture. I can't make out the name on the fairing and it also looks like the seat may be in a state of disrepair as it looks like it's being held together with Gaffa tape...

Cheers

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 08:22

Hi John, the photo is one of Philippes that he posted a couple of days a go, you can see the bike better in post #2 top of this page. :wave:

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 08:33

Hi John, the photo is one of Philippes that he posted a couple of days a go, you can see the bike better in post #2 top of this page. :wave:

Cheers for that I didn't look hard enough but I know the bike now.....

Cheers

John

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 08:33

Indeed, those two guys from "Lowland Triples" were working on their machines and when they noticed I was taking pictures of their bikes they told me that I really should go in the box nearby where Ron Chandler had his "factory" machines . Sadly I don't have the programme with me here in Nouméa so I can't help you with the riders' name

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 09:47

Lea Gourlay
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Posted 25 September 2009 - 12:58

I went to the 1971 Daytona 200 and can still remember the sound of the triples coming off the banking. Looking at the program and the photos of the triples none of them had front mudguards.

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 13:29

I went to the 1971 Daytona 200 and can still remember the sound of the triples coming off the banking. Looking at the program and the photos of the triples none of them had front mudguards.


In the new issue of ' Classic Bike ' --- delivered today -- there is a 7 page article on triples , plenty of pics , the only front guard visible is on Gary Fisher's Yoshi -Honda , plus 1 other un-identified bike in a pic. just after the start at Daytona
Plus , of course , on Ago's MV in another shot

Edited by fil2.8, 25 September 2009 - 13:37.


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Posted 25 September 2009 - 17:35

There've been quite a lot of pics of BSA/Triumph as raced nowadays in our TNF and I've a feeling that the front mudguards are not really fitting. IIRC the works bikes in the seventies didn't have mudguards ? If so, did they race in the wet without them, too ?


I've just spoken to Chris Chapman and the reason for the works bikes not having a front mudguard was the type of forks that the works bikes were using, if you look closely at Ron Chandlers BSA and then compare it with Paul Coote's bike you can see that Ron's doesn't have any mounting points for a mudguard.

However when in the wet most of the works riders did run a front mudguard albeit fastened on with jubilee clips... Chris runs his bike with a front mudguard and say's just look at the pebble dashing on the fairing and that's with a mudguard....

Hope that's helpfull

Cheers

John


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Posted 25 September 2009 - 17:48

#405 Sverre Saxxegard,(size of the pipe on this one!!) #446 Morten Ronning, #48 Paul Coote.
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Posted 25 September 2009 - 18:00

Cormac @ Darley Moor, 2009.
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Stu on the Brendan Ryan Triple Lydden 2008.
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Posted 25 September 2009 - 18:14

Cormac @ Darley Moor, 2009.
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Stu on the Brendan Ryan Triple Lydden 2008.
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Some fine shots there Graham!!

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 18:16

I've just spoken to Chris Chapman and the reason for the works bikes not having a front mudguard was the type of forks that the works bikes were using, if you look closely at Ron Chandlers BSA and then compare it with Paul Coote's bike you can see that Ron's doesn't have any mounting points for a mudguard.

However when in the wet most of the works riders did run a front mudguard albeit fastened on with jubilee clips... Chris runs his bike with a front mudguard and say's just look at the pebble dashing on the fairing and that's with a mudguard....

Hope that's helpfull

Cheers

John


Fraid you've got some dissent on this one John..... I can honestly never recall seeing any of the factory triples, at least in the Pickrell, Smart, Tait, era, with mudguards, rain or shine. As for Jubilee clips.... :eek: I wonder if anyone has any photographic evidence? Excluding, of course, any bikes set up for endurance racing. :)

Edited by Russell Burrows, 25 September 2009 - 18:26.


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Posted 25 September 2009 - 19:13

Fraid you've got some dissent on this one John..... I can honestly never recall seeing any of the factory triples, at least in the Pickrell, Smart, Tait, era, with mudguards, rain or shine. As for Jubilee clips.... :eek: I wonder if anyone has any photographic evidence? Excluding, of course, any bikes set up for endurance racing. :)


Hi Russ

I can't find any photo evidence in my collection apart from the 24hr endurance bikes and a couple of pre rob north works bikes,

I think photo evidence is the only way to go, so if anyone has a photo of the works bikes in the wet, it sure would be nice to them....

Cheers

John

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Posted 26 September 2009 - 05:23

On fire with the pics, Gra ! :wave:

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Posted 26 September 2009 - 14:36

On fire with the pics, Gra ! :wave:


Thank you Glenn, your comment is much appreciated!! (lots more pics to come on this thread!) seems like ages since we have had a "chat" hope your well my friend? :wave:

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Posted 26 September 2009 - 14:56

Morten Rygh, 2007
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Lea Gourlay, 2008 Charlie Sanby Trophy race winner Lydden Hill 2008.
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Posted 26 September 2009 - 15:58

Lea Gourlay 2007.
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Stu doing his thing!!
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Posted 26 September 2009 - 17:17

Some fine shots there Graham!!


Missed this one! thanks Mick, much appreciated! :wave:

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Jens burning logs!!?
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Danny Brennan 2007
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Tim Woolley at speed across start finish line Snett 2007.
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Posted 08 October 2009 - 20:26

Seems like just me on here!!? :(
Here is Adie Armson on the Ryan triple 2007
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Posted 11 October 2009 - 14:10

Hi Russ

I can't find any photo evidence in my collection apart from the 24hr endurance bikes and a couple of pre rob north works bikes,

I think photo evidence is the only way to go, so if anyone has a photo of the works bikes in the wet, it sure would be nice to them....

Cheers

John


Not a pic John, but confirmation that they did indeed sometimes fit mudguards, and do this with jubilee clips !.......aplogies for being so adamant to the contrary :blush:

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Posted 12 October 2009 - 20:18

Not a pic John, but confirmation that they did indeed sometimes fit mudguards, and do this with jubilee clips !.......aplogies for being so adamant to the contrary :blush:

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Hi Russ

thanks for that, interesting article as well.

I am hoping to put some photos up on this thread soon, just need to load em up somewhere so they'll display.

Working away this next week but watch this space....

John

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Posted 12 October 2009 - 20:21

Hi Russ

thanks for that, interesting article as well.

I am hoping to put some photos up on this thread soon, just need to load em up somewhere so they'll display.

Working away this next week but watch this space....

John


Hurry up getting bored talking to myself!! :rolleyes:
Photobucket is best John & free...as long as you are not going to post "undreds" of pics!!? :wave:

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Posted 12 October 2009 - 21:07

Sam McClements Triple 1977 Silverstone.
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JC a few laps before his lurid slide at this very spot during his still talked about victory at the Race of the Year.

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 22:23

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Found this one of a triple John Oldfield

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Posted 04 November 2009 - 22:17

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Anyone know who raced this beauty?

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Posted 04 November 2009 - 22:26

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Anyone know who raced this beauty?


Hi Rhodie :wave: Gary Nixon ?? :up:

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Posted 04 November 2009 - 22:32

Hi Rhodie :wave: Gary Nixon ?? :up:

Hi Phil. :wave:
Ooooh.....you´re a sharp one you are. Well done. :clap:
Gary Nixon´s 1967 Daytona winning machine.
Just as a matter of interest, how did you know? The number?

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Hi Phil. :wave:
Ooooh.....you´re a sharp one you are. Well done. :clap:
Gary Nixon´s 1967 Daytona winning machine.
Just as a matter of interest, how did you know? The number?


Well Rhodie , i've been about for a loooooooooong time :yawnface: and a bit of a fan of ' Nixo '
Was'nt this bike a twin ?? rather than a triple ?/ :rolleyes:

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Well Rhodie , i've been about for a loooooooooong time :yawnface: and a bit of a fan of ' Nixo '
Was'nt this bike a twin ?? rather than a triple ?/ :rolleyes:

I´ve just sourced it and it was a Doug Heal 500. So yes, I think it must have been a twin. Don´t know why but I´ve always thought it was the triple.
Shame on me. :blush: