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#51 bankoq

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 12:47

I think Kubica's going to McLaren in 2010 if BMW doesn't deliver him winning car in '09 is more probable than Rosberg's.

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#52 Hippo

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 12:54

Originally posted by Bernd Rosemeyer
Why is Klien not an option for the Toro Rosso race seat? Or even Honda?

Because he fails, pretty much. And what Dolph said.

#53 patgaw

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 17:52

Originally posted by bankoq
I think Kubica's going to McLaren in 2010 if BMW doesn't deliver him winning car in '09 is more probable than Rosberg's.



i think Kubica is going to Force SATO in 2050. :wave:

#54 lustigson

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Posted 13 February 2009 - 13:18

BMW Sauber F1 Team
BMW Sauber F1.10BMW P86/10
1. Robert Kubica (contracted for '09; option for '10?)
2. Nick Heidfeld (contracted for '09)

Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro
Ferrari F2010Ferrari 056
3. Kimi Räikkönen (contracted until '10)
4. Felipe Massa (contracted until '10)

Vodafone McLaren Mercedes
McLaren MP4-25Mercedes FO108X
5. Lewis Hamilton (contracted until '12)
6. Heikki Kovalainen (long-term contract with options?) / Nico Rosber (has Williams deal, but is rumoured for McLaren, would depend on Williams' '09 performance, Kovalainen's results, and whether McLaren actually want him)

Panasonic Toyota Racing
Toyota TF110Toyota RVX-10
7. Jarno Trulli (will he really stay on for another season?)
8. Timo Glock (re-signed for 2009; on a multi-year deal)

ING Renault F1 Team (title sponsor ING most likely out)
Renault R30Renault RS27
9. Fernando Alonso (one more year at Renault, then to Ferrari?)
10. Lucas Di Grassi (takes Piquet's place)

Red Bull Racing
Red Bull RB6Renault RS27
11. Mark Webber (confirmed for '09; likely to stay on)
12. Sebastian Vettel (on a multi-year deal?)

AT&T Williams
Williams FW32Toyota RVX-10 (how long does the Toyota contract run?)
14. Nico Rosberg (has a deal until the end of '10)
15. Kazuki Nakajima (confirmed for '09; probably on long-term deal)

Scuderia Toro Rosso
Toro Rosso STR5Ferrari 056 (Ferrari contract runs until ‘10)
16. Sébastien Bourdais
17. Sébastien Buemi

Force India F1
Force India VJM03Mercedes FO108X
18. Adrian Sutil (depending on his ‘09 performance)
19. Karun Chandhok (after another GP2 season, he gets the nod from Mallya) / Giancarlo Fisichella (probably out after ‘09) / Vitantonio Liuzzi (current tester)

Petrobras Team Formerly Known As Honda
TFKAH RA110Mercedes FO108X
20. Jenson Button (any news of a 2009-’10 contract?)
21. Bruno Senna (should he get the seat in '09, too)

USF1
USF1Mercedes FO108X / BMW P86/10 (any car maker would probably like to be associated with this 'Made in America' team)
22. Insert American driver here
23. Insert American driver here

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Bold red is team name
Bold black is contracted and/or confirmed car and engine name and number
Regular black is contracted and/or confirmed driver
Blue is probable/possible/rumoured sponsor, engine or driver

#55 AFCA

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 20:10

Adam Carroll would be in talks with several teams for a seat in 2010.

#56 CWeil

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 23:26

New or existing?

As much as I'd like to see it in some sense because he's such a nice guy, I can't see it happening.

#57 tkulla

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 00:00

Does anyone know the deal with Jenson Button's contract? He's driving for half the money his contract would have paid him this year. As I recall, that contract was signed near the end of last season and was for more than one year. So did they just tear it up and sign a one-year deal for half of what he was to earn this year, or is it a multi-year deal worth half the original values?

#58 V8 Fireworks

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 02:45

My guess.

Brawn GP Formula One Team
1. Jenson Button
2. Robert Kubica (Barrichello retired)

Red Bull Racing
3. Sebastian Vettel
4. Mark Webber

Panasonic Toyota Racing
5. Jarno Trulli
6. Fernando Alonso - a stable team able to pay pre-GFC style $50m+ champions spec salary, Alonso will bring the 6 tenths to turn them into regular winners of course

Vodafone McLaren Mercedes
7. Lewis Hamilton
8. Timo Glock - McLaren kind of driver

AT&T Williams
9. Nico Rosberg
10. Giancarlo Fisichella

ING Renault F1 Team
11. Heikki Kovalainen - drivers tend to have habit of returning to the same team
12. Bruno Senna - Flav takes the Petrobras money for the rookie

Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro
14. Felipe Massa
15. Nick Heidfeld - Ferrari kind of driver

Scuderia Toro Rosso
16. Sebastian Beumi
17. Brandon Hartley

BMW Sauber F1
18. Kimi Raikkonen - gambles on BMW return to form
19. Adrian Sutil

Force India F1
20. Kuzuki Nakajima
21. Nelson Piquet Jr

;)

#59 CWeil

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 02:55

I gotta tell ya- I don't think that one is going to happen, haha. I think some of the drivers you moved have contracts, anyway (Kimi, for example).

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#60 potmotr

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 09:10

Originally posted by sopa

STR: Trulli, Alguersuari*


I think STR are far, far more likely to take Brendon Hartley.

He's Red Bull's next star of the future IMO.

They've taken the late decision to place Hartley in a WSR car this year, as well as his F3 Euroseries campaign.

He's already Red Bull's nominated reserve driver for the STR and RBR F1 teams.

This is all based on Hartley's phenomonal race pace. If they can iron out his mistakes he could be the next Vettel.

I think it is very telling that, despite winning the British F3 title and being also backed by Red Bull, Alguersuari wasn't offered an F1 test over the winter like Hartley was.

#61 D.M.N.

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 09:12

Providing Lola, USF1 and Prodrive all come in to F1 in 2010, who can we see getting the drives for those teams?

#62 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 09:15

Another Alonso to Ferrari for 2010 story - this time from Berger

"Now I can say it: he was interested, but made it clearly understood that he saw 2009 only as a transitional year, because he already knew what he would be doing in 2010," Berger said in an interview with Germany's Sport Bild.

"Surely it's Ferrari," the Austrian winner of ten grands prix added.

#63 Mika Mika

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 09:23

Brawn GP Formula One Team
1. Jenson Button
2. Robert Kubica/Heikki Kovalainen

Red Bull Racing
3. Sebastian Vettel
4. Mark Webber

Panasonic Toyota Racing
5. Timo Glock
6. Kimi Raikkonen/Nico Rosberg

Vodafone McLaren Mercedes
7. Lewis Hamilton
8. Nico Rosberg/Kimi Raikkonen

AT&T Williams
9. Hulkenberg
10. Kazuki Nakajima

ING Renault F1 Team
11. Heikki Kovalainen
12. Bruno Senna

Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro
14. Felipe Massa
15. Fernando Alonso

Scuderia Toro Rosso
16. Sebastian Beumi
17. Sebastian Sato

BMW Sauber F1
18. Kimi Raikkonen
19. Nick Heidfeld

Force India F1
20. Adrian Sutil
21. Nelson Piquet Jr/Luzzi

Lola Cosworth
22. ???
23. ???

USAF1 Cosworth
24. Danica Patrick
25. Scott Speed

Team Art Ferrari Todt
26. ????
27. ????

#64 Zarathustra

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 09:38

Kimi would surely retire if he left Ferrari.

#65 Mika Mika

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 09:40

Originally posted by Zarathustra
Kimi would surely retire if he left Ferrari.


He's only 29......

#66 Zarathustra

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 09:55

Originally posted by Mika Mika


He's only 29......

I'm sure there are plenty of things he'd rather do outside of F1 than drive a McLaren or Sauber again.

#67 wewantourdarbyback

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 10:00

Of course there's now the possibility of Prodrive returning. Although whether returning is the right answer.

#68 potmotr

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 10:11

Originally posted by Zarathustra
Kimi would surely retire if he left Ferrari.


He's stated that intention in the past hasn't he?

Raikkonen has certainly made all the money he'll ever need and would perhaps better enjoy putting his feet up.

Next year will be his tenth season in Formula One.

If we exclude Schumacher, and look at the other recent world champions who chose to leave, Mika Hakkinen retired after 10 season, Damon Hill after nine.

#69 Hames Junt

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 10:33

Originally posted by Mika Mika
Brawn GP Formula One Team
1. Jenson Button
2. Robert Kubica/Heikki Kovalainen

Red Bull Racing
3. Sebastian Vettel
4. Mark Webber

Panasonic Toyota Racing
5. Timo Glock
6. Kimi Raikkonen/Nico Rosberg

Vodafone McLaren Mercedes
7. Lewis Hamilton
8. Nico Rosberg/Kimi Raikkonen

AT&T Williams
9. Hulkenberg
10. Kazuki Nakajima

ING Renault F1 Team
11. Heikki Kovalainen
12. Bruno Senna

Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro
14. Felipe Massa
15. Fernando Alonso

Scuderia Toro Rosso
16. Sebastian Beumi
17. Sebastian Sato

BMW Sauber F1
18. Kimi Raikkonen
19. Nick Heidfeld

Force India F1
20. Adrian Sutil
21. Nelson Piquet Jr/Luzzi

Lola Cosworth
22. ???
23. ???

USAF1 Cosworth
24. Danica Patrick
25. Scott Speed

Team Art Ferrari Todt
26. ????
27. ????


Slightly O/T but is there any reason why Ferrari have magically jumped up 2 constructor places in your numbering there fella? ;)

Also todays rumour suggest Prodrive / Aston Martin rather than ART.

It's great this like, 6 fresh places for drivers to prove their worth in F1. Well 4 if the USGPE slots are wasted on American drivers.

#70 kismet

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 10:52

Originally posted by Zarathustra
Kimi would surely retire if he left Ferrari.

Well, he wouldn't be leaving willingly. I'm entertaining some hope that the public humiliation of being fired will make him reconsider this whole retirement crap. I don't know if anyone would bother signing him anymore but I'm feeling strangely optimistic today so why the feck not.

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 10:57

I'm going to go ahead and say...

Brawn
1. Jenson Button
2. Bruno Senna (So close in '09! I doubt Bruno has let F1 pass him by yet.)

Red Bull
3. Sebastian Vettel (Contracted.)
4. Mark Webber (He seems fairly content.)

Toyota
5. Timo Glock
6. Kamui Kobayashi (I'm going to wing it and say Trulli retires.)

McLaren
7. Lewis Hamilton (Wonder Kid isn't going anywhere soon.)
8. Gary Paffett (I like Kovalainen, but he is not McLaren material.)

Williams
9. Nico Rosberg (I think he is contracted for 2010?)
10. Nico Hulkenburg (Frank Williams pushes Nakajima out the door.)

Renault
11. Fernando Alonso (I think he'll press on at Renault.)
12. Romain Grosjean (Piquet does not deserve his seat.)

Ferrari
14. Kimi Raikkonen (No reason for change.)
15. Felipe Massa (No reason for change.)

Toro Rosso
16. Sebastien Buemi
17. Karun Chandhok (From the Red Bull Junior Team.)

BMW Sauber
18. Robert Kubica (No reason for change.)
19. Adrian Sutil (Heidfeld retires, Sutil is recognized. I hope.)

Force India
20. Giancarlo Fisichella (Will keep peddling around unsuccessfully.)
21. Vitantonio Liuzzi

Lola
22. Adam Carroll (He WANTS to be in F1.)
23. Davide Valsecchi (Why not pluck someone from GP2?)

USF1/USGPF1... Whatever they're called.
24. Marco Andretti
25. Rubens Barrichello (He'll want to hang on. Nobody else will want him.)

Prodrive, or whatever David Richards is up to.
26. Heikki Kovalainen (If bumped by McLaren, he'd have to go somewhere.)
27. Lucas Di Grassi (Richards wanted him for 2008.)

#72 Mika Mika

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 11:03

Originally posted by Hames Junt


Slightly O/T but is there any reason why Ferrari have magically jumped up 2 constructor places in your numbering there fella? ;)

Also todays rumour suggest Prodrive / Aston Martin rather than ART.

It's great this like, 6 fresh places for drivers to prove their worth in F1. Well 4 if the USGPE slots are wasted on American drivers.


no i was just lazy and copied of someone else ;)

#73 D.M.N.

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 11:12

Some people above have mentioned Adam Carroll:

http://www.rte.ie/sp...3/carrolla.html

Thursday, 23 April 2009 10:12

Irish A1 Grand Prix driver Adam Carroll has revealed that he is in discussions with a number of Formula One teams with a view to taking part in next season's F1 World Championship.

An Irish driver has not been involved in Formula One since the retirement of Eddie Irvine seven years ago.

Carroll has also been speaking to teams in the Indy Racing League, the American equivalent of Formula One.

However, Carroll said his initial priority was his current involvement with the Ireland team in the A1GP series, the penultimate round of which takes place the weekend after next at Brands Hatch.

Ireland currently trail leaders Switzerland by just two points after an impressive campaign.

The final race of the season takes place in Mexico City.



#74 lustigson

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 11:40

An Irish driver has not been involved in Formula One since the retirement of Eddie Irvine seven years ago.

I thought Edmund Irvine Jr. was British?



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Posted 23 April 2009 - 11:42

Originally posted by lustigson

I thought Edmund Irvine Jr. was British?


Northern Ireland, which makes him British. He thinks of himself as Irish, though, and raced with an Irish issued licence.

#76 jeze

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 11:44

Ferrari
Fernando Alonso
Felipe Massa

McLaren
Lewis Hamilton
Heikki Kovalainen

Brawn GP
Jenson Button
Rubens Barrichello

BMW Sauber
Robert Kubica
Nick Heidfeld

Toyota
Jarno Trulli
Timo Glock

Red Bull
Kimi Räikkönen
Sebastian Vettel

Williams
Kamui Kobayashi
Nico Rosberg

Renault (if they take part)
Mark Webber
Romain Grosjean

Toro Rosso
Bruno Senna
Sébastien Buemi

Force India
Adrian Sutil
Paul di Resta

USGPE
Anthony Davidson (Windsor is an admirer)
Scott Speed

Lola
Takuma Sato
Adam Carroll

ART
Sébastien Bourdais
Nico Hülkenberg

I'd love to see Neel Jani in F1 too, but I don't think that's likely.

#77 Stephan

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 11:48

Originally posted by jeze
BMW Sauber
Robert Kubica
Nick Heidfeld

Toro Rosso
Nick Heidfeld
Sébastien Buemi

I'd love to see Neel Jani in F1 too, but I don't think that's likely. [/B]


And Heidfeld driving for BMW and Toro Rosso is more likely? ;)

#78 jeze

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 11:54

Originally posted by Stephan


And Heidfeld driving for BMW and Toro Rosso is more likely? ;)


Man, I messed up ;)

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 12:01

Originally posted by UPRC
I'm going to go ahead and say...

Toro Rosso
16. Sebastien Buemi
17. Karun Chandhok (From the Red Bull Junior Team.)

Force India
20. Giancarlo Fisichella (Will keep peddling around unsuccessfully.)
21. Vitantonio Liuzzi



You think Karun Chandhok will graduate to F1 with Toro Rosso while there is an Indian "national" team?

I doubt that.

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#80 howardt

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 12:24

Jensen is far too loyal to do it, but a smart move for him would be to start negotiating for a drive elsewhere for next year. His stock is soaring at the mo, and I can't see Brawn turning out another winning car in 2010.

OTOH, Ferrari seats are booked, McLaren won't field 2 british drivers, the little verbal spat with Flabbio puts Renault off-limits. Maybe he's better off where he is after all.

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 12:31

Originally posted by howardt
Jensen is far too loyal to do it, but a smart move for him would be to start negotiating for a drive elsewhere for next year. His stock is soaring at the mo, and I can't see Brawn turning out another winning car in 2010.

OTOH, Ferrari seats are booked, McLaren won't field 2 british drivers, the little verbal spat with Flabbio puts Renault off-limits. Maybe he's better off where he is after all.


This the same loyal Jensen who honoured his Williams contract?;)

#82 Alfisti

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 12:35

Ferrari
Fernando Alonso
Felipe Massa

McLaren
Lewis Hamilton
Heikki Kovalainen

Brawn GP
Jenson Button
Kubica

BMW Sauber
NO FREAKIN IDEA
Nick Heidfeld

Toyota
Jarno Trulli
Timo Glock

Red Bull
Webber
Sebastian Vettel

Williams
Whoever Toyota wants or maybe Hulkenberg
Nico Rosberg

Renault (if they take part)
Who Knows?
Romain Grosjean

Toro Rosso
Bruno Senna
Sébastien Buemi

Force India
Adrian Sutil
Paul di Resta

I cannot find a home for Kimi, where does he go?

#83 ForeverF1

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 12:38

Originally posted by Gilles4Ever


This the same loyal Jensen who honoured his Williams contract?;)


I'm sure that Frank was very appreciative of the cash that Jenson paid to get out of that contract. ;)

#84 Turbo4

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 12:43

Originally posted by jeze
Red Bull
Kimi Räikkönen
Sebastian Vettel


The chances of Red Bull replacing Webber would be extremely unlikely given his speed seems pretty much a match for Vettel. And why replace a strong development driver with one who's contributions to development are "it's shit" or "it's ok"? :

Originally posted by jeze
Renault (if they take part)
Mark Webber
Romain Grosjean


And under your workaround, where's Webber if they dont take part?

Somehow I dont think a guy who finishes top 5 or 6 this year gets bumped completely next year. :drunk:

#85 Turbo4

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 12:44

Originally posted by Alfisti
Ferrari
Fernando Alonso
Felipe Massa

McLaren
Lewis Hamilton
Heikki Kovalainen

Brawn GP
Jenson Button
Kubica

BMW Sauber
NO FREAKIN IDEA
Nick Heidfeld

Toyota
Jarno Trulli
Timo Glock

Red Bull
Webber
Sebastian Vettel

Williams
Whoever Toyota wants or maybe Hulkenberg
Nico Rosberg

Renault (if they take part)
Mark Webber
Romain Grosjean

Toro Rosso
Bruno Senna
Sébastien Buemi

Force India
Adrian Sutil
Paul di Resta

I cannot find a home for Kimi, where does he go?


Either RBR or Renault, given you've got Webber listed twice.

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 12:53

Originally posted by Alfisti
I cannot find a home for Kimi, where does he go?

To Switzerland, presumably. Who cares? I don't think he's necessarily that much, if any, worse than a good 50 % of the grid but if no one wants him...

#87 D.M.N.

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 13:07

Ferrari
Felipe Massa
Sebastian Vettel

McLaren
Lewis Hamilton
Heikki Kovalainen

Brawn
Jenson Button
Bruno Senna

Renault
Fernando Alonso
Romain Grosjean

BMW Sauber
Nick Heidfeld
Robert Kubica

Toyota
Jarno Trulli
Timo Glock

Red Bull
Mark Webber
Sebastian Buemi

Toro Rosso
Brendon Hartley
Tonio Liuzzi

Williams
Nico Rosberg
Nico Hülkenberg

Force India
Narain Karthikeyan
Karun Chandhok

Lola
Giorgio Pantano
Kazuki Nakajima

Prodrive
Adam Carroll
Adrian Sutil

USF1
Scott Speed
Marco Andretti

I'd love to see Vettel go to Ferrari, but I'm not sure if Red Bull would let him go... surely if Ferrari did ask for Vettel, not in a million years would he turn it down, would he?

I think from '09 into '10, we will see a lot of driver movement, more than what we've seen in a while.

#88 GhostR

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 13:09

Originally posted by D.M.N.
I'd love to see Vettel go to Ferrari, but I'm not sure if Red Bull would let him go... surely if Ferrari did ask for Vettel, not in a million years would he turn it down, would he?


If RBR maintains their current form through the rest of the season, then yes, I think he would turn down Ferrari.

#89 Hames Junt

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 13:41

Brawn-Mercedes
1. Jenson Button
2. Rubens Barrichello

Red Bull-Renault
3. Sebastian Vettel
4. Mark Webber

Toyota
5. Timo Glock
6. Jarno Trulli

McLaren-Mercedes
7. Lewis Hamilton
8. Hekki Kovalainen

Toro Rosso-Ferrari
9. Sebastien Buemi
10. Sebastien Bourdais

Renault
11. Kimi Raikkonen
12. Romain Grosjean

BMW
14. Robert Kubica
15. Nick Heidfeld

Williams-Toyota
16. Nico Rosberg
17. Nicolas Hülkenberg

Force India-Mercedes
18. Paul di Resta
19. Vittantonio Liuzzi

Ferrari
20. Fernando Alonso
21. Felipe Massa

USF1-Cosworth
22. Scott Speed
23. Marco Andretti

Aston Martin
24. Anthony Davidson
25. Bruno Senna

Lola-Cosworth
26. Adrian Sutil
27. Adam Carroll

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 15:54

Originally posted by howardt
Jensen is far too loyal to do it.


:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 19:16

Originally posted by D.M.N.
I think from '09 into '10, we will see a lot of driver movement, more than what we've seen in a while.


Definitely.

Red Bull-Mercedes
1. Sebastian Vettel
2. Mark Webber

Brawn-Cosworth
3. Jenson Button
4. Rubens Barrichello

McLaren-Mercedes
5. Lewis Hamilton
6. Nico Rosberg

Briatore-Cosworth
7. Robert Kubica
8. Lucas di Grassi (after replacing Piquet midseason this year)

Toyota
9. Jarno Trulli
10. Timo Glock

Ferrari
11. Fernando Alonso
12. Felipe Massa

Toro Rosso-Ferrari
14. Sebastien Buemi
15. Takuma Sato (after replacing Bourdais midseason this year)

BMW Sauber
16. Nick Heidfeld
17. Heikki Kovalainen

Williams-Toyota
18. Nico Hulkenberg
19. Kazuki Nakajima

Force India-Mercedes
20. Adrian Sutil
21. Vitantonio Liuzzi

Prodrive-Cosworth
22. Anthony Davidson
23. Bruno Senna

Lola-Cosworth
24. Adam Carroll
25. Giorgio Pantano

Barwa Addax-Cosworth (spanish team coming from GP2, just a bit of a wild guess)
26. Romain Grosjean
27. Sergio Perez

This is quite difficult to predict because we don't know which teams will be desirable for drivers to move to. Brawn is a huge question mark for example - how good will they be by the end of 2009, and how much money will they have?

#92 mkay

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 19:24

Hamilton's position with McLaren will depend on the WMSC verdict next week. If they get a multi-race ban, then, forget it for 2010 and beyond. He's as good as gone.

#93 Dooly Tilly

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 19:37

Originally posted by Dooly Tilly
Ferrari-
Alonso : Massa

McLaren-
Hamilton : Buemi

Red Bull-
Vettel : Kubica

BrawnGP-
Button : Rosberg

Toyota-
Glock : Trulli

Williams-
Kobayashi : Hulkenberg

Renault-
Webber : Grosjean

BMW-
Raikkonen : Heidfeld

Toro Rosso-
Senna : Kovalainen

Force India-
Liuggi : di Resta



#94 Nitropower

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 20:19

Originally posted by Mika Mika

Scuderia Toro Rosso
16. Sebastian Beumi
17. Sebastian Sato


Sebastian Sato :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

#95 BRK

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 21:06

How about ART GP?

Too tough to make a call right now,but I think we'll have at least three new drivers next season,and Liuzzi will be back....

#96 mkay

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 21:55

2009 would be Raikkonen's last season according to some here... crazy.

#97 jeze

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Posted 24 April 2009 - 07:02

Originally posted by Turbo4


The chances of Red Bull replacing Webber would be extremely unlikely given his speed seems pretty much a match for Vettel. And why replace a strong development driver with one who's contributions to development are "it's shit" or "it's ok"? :

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And under your workaround, where's Webber if they dont take part?

Somehow I dont think a guy who finishes top 5 or 6 this year gets bumped completely next year. :drunk:

If Renault withdraws I think he'll be in one of the new teams, but I still think it's unlikely it withdraws. Anyway do I believe that Red Bull wants two starts in its cars, so I wouldn't be surprised to see Kimi going there.

#98 V8 Fireworks

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Posted 24 April 2009 - 08:07

Originally posted by jeze


If Renault withdraws I think he'll be in one of the new teams, but I still think it's unlikely it withdraws. Anyway do I believe that Red Bull wants two starts in its cars, so I wouldn't be surprised to see Kimi going there.


Kimi is more of a driver for the STR team, a suitable replacement for Bourdais. Vettel and Webber are obviously more similar to top drivers as far as RBR should be concerned.

#99 Jakob

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Posted 24 April 2009 - 08:42

Originally posted by paranoik0


Definitely.

Red Bull-Mercedes
1. Sebastian Vettel
2. Mark Webber

Brawn-Cosworth
3. Jenson Button
4. Rubens Barrichello

McLaren-Mercedes
5. Lewis Hamilton
6. Nico Rosberg

Briatore-Cosworth
7. Robert Kubica
8. Lucas di Grassi (after replacing Piquet midseason this year)

Toyota
9. Jarno Trulli
10. Timo Glock

Ferrari
11. Fernando Alonso
12. Felipe Massa

Toro Rosso-Ferrari
14. Sebastien Buemi
15. Takuma Sato (after replacing Bourdais midseason this year)

BMW Sauber
16. Nick Heidfeld
17. Heikki Kovalainen

Williams-Toyota
18. Nico Hulkenberg
19. Kazuki Nakajima

Force India-Mercedes
20. Adrian Sutil
21. Vitantonio Liuzzi

Prodrive-Cosworth
22. Anthony Davidson
23. Bruno Senna

Lola-Cosworth
24. Adam Carroll
25. Giorgio Pantano

Barwa Addax-Cosworth (spanish team coming from GP2, just a bit of a wild guess)
26. Romain Grosjean
27. Sergio Perez

This is quite difficult to predict because we don't know which teams will be desirable for drivers to move to. Brawn is a huge question mark for example - how good will they be by the end of 2009, and how much money will they have?


I enjoy your ideas and wish to suscribe to your blog.

However, 3 Merc teams? I though they can supply engines to more than 2 and that Brawn this year was an exception to the rule, although I could be wrong.

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Posted 24 April 2009 - 11:45

Of course I enjoy the speculation as much as anybody else, but what I read from the opening reply is that both McLaren and Ferrari drivers are contracted for 2010.

Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro
Ferrari F2010 – Ferrari 056
3. Kimi Räikkönen (contracted until '10)
4. Felipe Massa (contracted until '10)

Vodafone McLaren Mercedes
McLaren MP4-25 – Mercedes FO108X
5. Lewis Hamilton (long-term contract)
6. Heikki Kovalainen (option in long-term contract taken up)



Still most of the replies are considering who Alonso is going to replace in Ferrari.