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#201 potmotr

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 13:50

He seriously reminds me of Alesi in 1990.

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#202 Nobody

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 13:51

The kid deserves a drive more than half the grid!

#203 jesee

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 13:54

Jeez, Kobayashi is amazing! He is the best rookie since hamilton. The way he didn't fear our new WDC was joy to watch.

#204 ensign14

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 13:58

He seriously reminds me of Alesi in 1990.

And looked what happened to him. Fewer wins than Eddie Irvine.

#205 aditya-now

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 14:00

God I love this guy hope he stays in F1 next season :clap:


It is virtually guaranteed that he stays with Toyota in 2010.

What need for Toyota to pay high salaries to other drivers, when they have Koba?

#206 aditya-now

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 14:03

Damn you Alonso, pit now please, he's disturbing Kobayashi



That´s how Koba rose to fame in two weekends...

#207 Hypnotise

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 14:22

Spectacular drive by far the most exciting driver-New fav driver!

#208 Hypnotise

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 14:35

Trulli is getting his arse wopped,Will Trulli now carry a lap top and say I have evidence

#209 D.M.N.

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 14:38

Toyota better keep him for next year! :)

#210 giacomo

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 14:39

Great drive by Kobayashi. Hope he gets a good seat and a competitive car next year.

#211 Tenmantaylor

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 14:42

Cant praise this drive enough from Kamui-san. Lapping at the leaders pace, passing and holding off WDCs, executing an excellent 1 stop at a new track and beating his 2 stop team mate.

Best debut driver since Hamilton and Kubica.

#212 kosmos

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 14:42

Really nice job, this guy should be in the grid next year.

#213 Simon Says

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 14:42

Rookie of the year :up:

#214 HP

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 14:45

Looking forward to see him next year on the grid!

#215 Bishy

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 14:46

Cant praise this drive enough from Kamui-san. Lapping at the leaders pace, passing and holding off WDCs, executing an excellent 1 stop at a new track and beating his 2 stop team mate.

Best debut driver since Hamilton and Kubica.




He's certainly raising a few eyebrows and ruffling a few feathers! :clap:

Fantastic race Koba! :up:

#216 athlon

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 14:56

Well done for him, absolutely brilliant race. He beat Trulli. Fantastic.

#217 Jazza_26

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 14:56

Great race from Kobi. To come in for two races and perform like the way he has is magnificent.

Would love to see him get a race seat next year. Surely it's a formality now. :D

#218 Alonzo

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 14:59

He is a dirty driver though

PLEASE, permaban to this guy, he don't a clue of what real racing is about.

#219 Siskue

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 15:01

Great Great Drive Kaumi-san
:clap: :clap:

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#220 dau

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 15:05

That first stint was just awesome. Too bad he suffered from understeer on the options...

#221 gaheir

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 15:16

I am just speechless...

He has technically no knowledge of the car and tyres.
With no test during the season it is more than remarkable.

#222 BiH

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 15:18

hopefully toyota picks him up for next season....a very good drive today.

#223 Nonesuch

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 15:19

He's certainly doing himself a lot of favours. Good drive! :)

#224 Alonzo

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 15:22

That first stint was just awesome. Too bad he suffered from understeer on the options...

still with a more used tyre he manage to have his fastest lap of the race in the pace of Trulli's. Kobayashi was excelent in the last 2 races. :up:

#225 muramasa

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 15:24

That first stint was just awesome. Too bad he suffered from understeer on the options...


actually i'm more impressed with his 2nd stint. despite worn out tyres due to one stopping, his 2nd stint was quite competitive compared to the rest of the pack such as Nick, Trulli etc. he managed and saved his 2nd set of tyres well.



#226 TheArmchairCritic

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 15:31

He's been superb but a certain Kazuki Nakajima finished 10th and 6th and managed to run over his pit crw in his 1st 2 races. So calm the hype round Kobayashi. Also he did test the TF109 during the winter so he had a relative knowledge of the car.

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#227 ex Rhodie racer 2

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 15:39

actually i'm more impressed with his 2nd stint. despite worn out tyres due to one stopping, his 2nd stint was quite competitive compared to the rest of the pack such as Nick, Trulli etc. he managed and saved his 2nd set of tyres well.

Absolutely. Wonderful performance.

#228 midgrid

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 15:52

He's been superb but a certain Kazuki Nakajima finished 10th and 6th and managed to run over his pit crw in his 1st 2 races. So calm the hype round Kobayashi. Also he did test the TF109 during the winter so he had a relative knowledge of the car.


But when Nakajima finished sixth, Rosberg finished third. It's not so much the points position that's important, but the fact that he's beaten his experienced team-mate as well.


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Posted 01 November 2009 - 15:55

He's been superb but a certain Kazuki Nakajima finished 10th and 6th and managed to run over his pit crw in his 1st 2 races. So calm the hype round Kobayashi. Also he did test the TF109 during the winter so he had a relative knowledge of the car.


No he doesn't.
With the test limitation the third drivers were not allowed to drive with light fuel load and new tyres.
They just drove to destroy used tyres with full tank.
Remember how Pique complained about the team not having let him do so?
Besides the condition is greatly different in the winter.

You will never know how he is gonna perform next season until it starts.
And saying he might have a chance to become future champion is just going too far.
But I think you should give him the credit he absolutely deserves.

#230 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 15:55

this is how you should do when a chance is given to you. do your best, it sounds like a text, but that's what he did. no shy, too cautios, just did it...
I think he did his part, now it's up to a team to pick him


#231 uzi

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 15:56

Fantastic drive!!

I've always rated Trulli and beating him in a arguably worse strategy is wonderful! and that too with no testing at all.

Kobayashi, hoping to see you in the grid next year! With a better Toyota that can challenge for podiums!

#232 Kristian

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 15:59

I do think it helps with perception that we are expecting absolutely nothing from him, I fear next season he might seem to struggle a bit more. But hes certainly very entertaining and the kind of driver F1 needs, he can bring excitment to even the most sterile of Tilkedromes. And with Sato rumoured to be back too there could be some great times ahead!

#233 Fudce

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 16:00

Toyota better keep him for next year! :)

Put Kobayashi in a Toyota with an experienced driver like Giancarlo Fisichella or Nick Heidfeld and he will only get faster and faster next year. He is an unexpected talent, and a nice find for Toyota, but he is still a bit inexperienced and will make rookie errors. If he has a team mate that he can learn from, in both racecraft and technical knowledge, then he could go far.

I just fear that if they put a Heikki Kovalainen in that car he will not be challenged and will stagnate. The next year is immensely important for him, and it could ultimatly shape the way his career from that point on progresses.

#234 TheArmchairCritic

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 16:01

No he doesn't.
With the test limitation the third drivers were not allowed to drive with light fuel load and new tyres.
They just drove to destroy used tyres with full tank.
Remember how Pique complained about the team not having let him do so?
Besides the condition is greatly different in the winter.

You will never know how he is gonna perform next season until it starts.
And saying he might have a chance to become future champion is just going too far.
But I think you should give him the credit he absolutely deserves.

http://www.toyota-f1...2/20090119.html
Regardless Kamui still had more knowledge of his car then say Alguersuari or Grosjean.

#235 Bouncing Pink Ball

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 16:10

This guy might, just maybe, save Toyota's F1 program. Seriously. If he's able to rise to the potential he's show thus far, he could (note the word could) be their Hamilton or Vettel. I'm not ready to toss around the future star label – WDC? Let's not even go there yet. :rolleyes: – but he's, well...he's making an impression, that's for sure.



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Posted 01 November 2009 - 16:39

Wow again at Kobayashi, just brilliant first two races. One of best debut drivers in years. Passing WDC, holding third and staying infront of another WDC Raikkonen. Amazing driver!

:up:
Credit where due; he's straight up to speed, calm and consistent when surrounded by 'famous names', and hysterically entertaining when contesting position. Great breath of fresh air who I really hope doesn't fade next season.

#237 911

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 16:47

What I really like about Koba is that he's a "racer" and he takes the fight to all that are around him - he's not afraid mix it up. Did anyone catch the opening lap when he fought w/ Kimi? The Speed boys missed it, but he made a nice pass around Kimi to take that position. Also, his pace in the race was very good. I'd like to see where his fastest lap ends up. I think he did a 1:40.7 towards the end of the race. Well done, Kobayashi. You are definitely a breath of fresh air in the last two GPs.

#238 pingu666

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 17:04

he really is a racer in the montoya/hamilton mould, he again outraced button :D. great race by him, nice maturaity in letting alonso past there too :) bit of give and take ;)

#239 Rob

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 17:14

Kobayashi reminds me of a young Alex Wurz. Will be interesting to see how his career develops.

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#240 4L3X

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 17:15

I loved the pass on Button, absolutely loved it!
Who cares about GP2? This guy clicked on an F1 car, so he should drive one.

#241 Zdeus

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 17:20

Rookie of the year :up:


+1 :up:


#242 P123

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 17:24

I loved the pass on Button, absolutely loved it!
Who cares about GP2? This guy clicked on an F1 car, so he should drive one.


He is a GP2 Asia champion, which a lot seem to forget. He didn't quite deliver in GP2, but that may have been down to the team. He looks more than competent in F1. If he gets a seat I hope he can continue to impress next season and doesn't turn out to be another flash in the pan like Alex Wurz.

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 17:25

He's been superb but a certain Kazuki Nakajima finished 10th and 6th and managed to run over his pit crw in his 1st 2 races. So calm the hype round Kobayashi. Also he did test the TF109 during the winter so he had a relative knowledge of the car.


A little perspective is in order. Kazuki had the whole winter to test with Williams, dare I say - even develop the car to his liking. Compare that to Koba, take into consideration the pressure of jumping in with no testing (testing a car 8 months back is like testing a very different car, we all know how fast cars evolve) and then a) overtake, b) defend and beat your team-mate.

I will not say this is "hype". These are results.

#244 King Six

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 17:25

Liuzzi didn't have a bad season either, although not really a rookie I guess. He would've got a good points haul in Italy had his gearbox not failed on him. Getting into Q3 on your return to GP racing isn't bad, then again that FI was very fast on the low downforce circuits.

Kob had a good race today, he's probably a shoe in for a Toyota seat next season. Toyota really need to be better though, like Eddie Jordan said they're the biggest car manufacturer in the world and I remember seeing that their F1 budget was massive. For me they're probably one of the, if not the biggest disappointment in F1 so far.

#245 911

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 17:29

Latest Autosport article now has Kobayashi possibly set for 2010 drive:

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/79960

I sure hope he gets the drive.

#246 Phucaigh

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 17:39

Kobayashi with another young driver as a team mate, be more interesting than pairing him with Kovalainen or Sutil.

#247 Fudce

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 17:41

Kobayashi with another young driver as a team mate, be more interesting than pairing him with Kovalainen or Sutil.

They need someone experienced to 'mentor' Kobayashi. A consistent driver who has done more than three seasons of F1 so far.

#248 Rob

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 17:47

They need someone experienced to 'mentor' Kobayashi. A consistent driver who has done more than three seasons of F1 so far.


If McLaren get Raikkonen, then Nick Heidfeld would be a good choice.

#249 maccaFTW

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 17:49

Jerome D'Ambrosio has to be on suicide watch right now.

#250 dau

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Posted 01 November 2009 - 18:19

Jerome D'Ambrosio has to be on suicide watch right now.

He should team up with DiResta and DiGrassi to start some kind of "should be in F1" support group.

Wait a second - D'Ambrosio, DiResta, DiGrassi? I think i see a pattern there...