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[alg7_munif]

Since some people want the car discussion thread separated from the driver discussion, here is the thread for the driver discussion.

The first seat is occupied by Hamilton and he will use the number 5 right? The second seat is still empty but I really want to see Kobayashi in that seat since he is aggressive like Lewis.

Edited by alg7_munif, 18 November 2009 - 18:48.

[TheArmchairCritic]

Raikkonen.

[TheArmchairCritic]

BTW Nakajima finished 10th and 6th in his first 2 races. So calm the hype.

[Anomnader]

Hopefully they will paint the 5 Red.

I'll go for Heidfeld. Would a poll be a good idea?

[alg7_munif]

BTW Nakajima finished 10th and 6th in his first 2 races. So calm the hype.

It's not about finishing position, it's about aggression, which makes Hamilton a fun racer to watch. I don't care if he ended up not finishing the race as long as he keeps pushing for the race positions. Next year there will be no refuelling so finishing positions will be decided on track and an aggressive driver will have an advantage there.

Edited by alg7_munif, 01 November 2009 - 15:34.

[grunge]

imp. advice/suggestion...this thread and this thread only should be used for all driver/teammate rants..mp4-25 should be about the car..strictly

[meddo]

I can see this one being closed for at least five times. With that in mind-Heidfeld. Long time ago mercedes darling, pushed aside for Kimi, and finally, he does deserve a chance at McLaren. Martin, you hear?

[alg7_munif]

Hopefully they will paint the 5 Red.

I'll go for Heidfeld. Would a poll be a good idea?

I think that this thread should be a year long thread about the drivers, it doesn't matter who they are or who they will be.

[TheArmchairCritic]

It's not about finishing position, it's about aggression, which makes Hamilton a fun racer to watch. I don't care if he ended up not finishing the race as long as he keeps pushing for the race positions. Next year there will be no refuelling so finishing positions will be decided on track and an aggressive driver will have an advantage there.

So this agression means he's better than Raikkonen as an option?

[alg7_munif]

So this agression means he's better than Raikkonen as an option?

It depends whether McLaren wants to have two great drivers fighting each other for the championship or whether they want to have a clear no.2 driver that won't create a mess with the first driver but not as easy to overtake and as slow as Kovalainen. The latter option will give them a better chance at the WDC but the first option will give them an advantage in the WCC.

Edited by alg7_munif, 01 November 2009 - 15:39.

[TheArmchairCritic]

It depends whether McLaren wants to have two great drivers fighting each other for the championship or whether they want to have a clear no.2 driver that won't create a mess with the first driver but not as easy to overtake and slow as Kovalainen.

Kimi will do what's best for the team, witness China 2008.

[undersquare]

Do we want a No1, No2 driver policy, or do we want some proper intra-team racing and two drivers who on any given day can beat both Ferraris on pace?


Kimi, for me.

[mursuka80]

Kimi if you want to fight with Ferrari.He surely is motivated to kick their ass Why didnt you OP just put a title "Who should be Hamilton`s lapdog?".

Edited by mursuka80, 01 November 2009 - 15:45.

[Arion]

Kimi if you want to fight with Ferrari.He surely is motivated to kick their ass Why didnt you OP just put a title "Who should be Hamilton`s lapdog?".

wow...I think this thread will get locked before the 2nd seat is announced

[mkay]

wow...I think this thread will get locked before the 2nd seat is announced

Me thinks the same thing.

As far as drivers go, it will be Hamilton in the #5 car for sure.

I can assure you - 100% - that it will NOT be Kovalainen driving #6.

The dude has burnt his bridges this weekend by biting the hands that feed.

[mursuka80]

wow...I think this thread will get locked before the 2nd seat is announced

I can see through peoples bullshit,so i had to tell him that.

[teewoods]

Fight Ferrari is all i keep reading. Who says Ferrari would be the team to beat or fight. Times have changed. Ferrari are going back to the pre- schumi era. Alonso coming means nothing.

[alg7_munif]

There is one thing that I'm reluctant about Kimi. When he was at McLaren, we had all sort of reliability problems and Ferrari was bullet proof back then but when he joined Ferrari, McLaren's reliability went up and Ferrari's went down. Now there are only rumours about him joining back McLaren but for the first time, Hamilton got his mechanical failure If you believe in goodluck charm, then I would say Kimi is a bad luck charm

[kismet]

I don't really care but - just for my personal amusement - I suggest they keep Kovalainen.

Failing that, Heidfeld seems to be the Macca fan favourite so I guess he'd be the next best choice. For peace and serenity if nothing else.

[grunge]

there wont be any no.1 or 2 drivers next year..thats now how mclaren work...the guy faster throughout a considerable part of the season should get the dominant role if there is any need for that later

[meddo]

Well, who¨s to say that with news of Mercedes prolonged interest in McLaren partnership, young NIco is not on the cards again.

[Arion]

I said it in the car thread, I think Red Bull will be strong and they have a strong driver lineup. Alonso still means something, and we should never write off Ferrari.

[Anomnader]

I can see through peoples bullshit,so i had to tell him that.

cause everyones different, you can have an opinion as well ;)

seeing if Kimi is taken on you'll be invading the Mp4-25 thread

[OnPace]

Heidfeld would be my choice.

Edited by OnPace, 01 November 2009 - 15:59.

[De Jokke]

who do we have:

*kovy => I hope not, although he is the most friendly driver out there.
*button => To see button getting his ass kicked by hami: yes!
*raik => most chance to get us the wcc
*( sutil ) => good friends with hamilton and not bad in the FI
*( kob ) => impressed lots of people during his two races
*heidfeld => good driver but good enough to deliver a wcc... ?
*rosberg => fast and consistent but probably heading to brawn...

I would like to have Rosberg or raikkonen: most chance of getting wcc.
If not: heidfeld, button, sutil or kobayashi (really impressed a lot of people)
kovy should be thrown out, he has had enough chances to prove himself

Edited by De Jokke, 01 November 2009 - 16:02.

[Darth Sidious]

I'd like them to poach Button off Brawn. That way I can wear my Lewis hamilton #2 shirt again.

Edited by Darth Sidious, 01 November 2009 - 16:00.

[DePortago]

Since some people want the car discussion thread separated from the driver discussion, here is the thread for the driver discussion.

The first seat is occupied by Hamilton and he will use the number 5 right? The second seat is still empty but I really want to see Kobayashi in that seat since he is aggressive like Lewis.

[teejay]

They took a risk in 2007 with a real young and agressive guy. You may of heard of him. Yes, I know they nurtured him for a long time, and they knew exactly what he could do.
Nothing to say Koba couldnt posses the same flair in a good car.

Kimi would fit in at the team well. People forget he didnt leave because he hated ron, he left because the Robertsons got him the big dollars at Ferrari so Luca could play off Jean Todt and Schumi.

[mursuka80]

cause everyones different, you can have an opinion as well ;)

seeing if Kimi is taken on you'll be invading the Mp4-25 thread

Im so bloody conflicted about this.If Kimi goes there i have to cheer for a team that i cursed to hell when he was last time there.I promise to behave though ;)

[Enkei]

Well, who¨s to say that with news of Mercedes prolonged interest in McLaren partnership, young NIco is not on the cards again.

Can you update me on that? Was there a news article that states this or some kind?

[Arion]

There is one thing that I'm reluctant about Kimi. When he was at McLaren, we had all sort of reliability problems and Ferrari was bullet proof back then but when he joined Ferrari, McLaren's reliability went up and Ferrari's went down. Now there are only rumours about him joining back McLaren but for the first time, Hamilton got his mechanical failure If you believe in goodluck charm, then I would say Kimi is a bad luck charm

And Newey stopped making fragile cars at Red Bull... I hope they will start breaking down again next season.

[Amrl]

Keep Heikki. He proved today he's faster than Kimi and nobody can touch Hamilton. In fact, for all we know, Heikki could be the second best driver in the grid.

[meddo]

Can you update me on that? Was there a news article that states this or some kind?

With Nico or with Mercedes?
Mercedes news is just out, via Reuters.

[alg7_munif]

Btw Toyota could use a great driver too, ie Kimi and give Kobayashi to McLaren in exchange ;)

[grunge]

According to Turun Sanomat, Heikki will join Toyota

[alg7_munif]

Button is also mentioned for the second seat but I don't think that it would be a good idea since Lewis has an oversteering driving style while Button prefers understeer if I'm not mistaken.

[Brawn BGP 001]

Heidfeld or Raikkonen IMO.

[Brawn BGP 001]

Keep Heikki. He proved today he's faster than Kimi and nobody can touch Hamilton. In fact, for all we know, Heikki could be the second best driver in the grid.

Like Eddie Irvine was?

[maccaFTW]

I'll be happy with Raikkonen, Heidfeld, Button, Kubica, Glock, or Kovalainen (who I think can still get the job done). My top choice would be Raikkonen, but I'd take any of them.

Hell no to Kobayashi. He showed promise in his two races at Toyota. Nakajima did at Williams, too, and look how that's gone.

As a McLaren fan, I'm more concerned about the MP4-25 itself. Macca need to turn out a crack car this year, which is going to be harder than ever to do.

[Brawn BGP 001]

I doubt Kobayashi will get a drive anywhere, he just does not have the money behind him, his main backer Toyota are out and he was unable to get the funding for a GP2 drive.

I hope I am wrong though and one of the new teams have punt on him, if he is not good enough they can kick him out.

[raiseyourfistfor]

1. Heidfeld
2. raikonen
3. Rosberg
4. Glock

is my wishlist

[WebBerK]

I got a good impression on a driver a saw today... Luca di Montezemolo.
This names sounds so good for a driver.

[V8 Fireworks]

Hopefully they will paint the 5 Red.

Indeed it appears to be #1 Button, #2 Hamilton

The #5 suggestion in the original post was a most radical assumption!

[alg7_munif]

Stolen from another thread:
http://www.guardian....claren-contract

[De Jokke]

Stolen from another thread:
http://www.guardian....claren-contract

If true, i still think fer has the best duo. If it had been kimi or rosberg, mcl would have been the strongest driver pairing. But for the wdc it'll be a huge advantage: lewis against the two fer drivers and maybe vettel. Button will bring in points to keep mcl in contention for the wcc.

Strange how Button in 2008 was a poor honda driver and is (thanks to the brawn title winning car) let in by mclaren (topteam)! F1 is crazy!

Edited by De Jokke, 16 November 2009 - 23:11.

[Brawn BGP 001]

If true, i still think fer has the best duo. If it had been kimi or rosberg, mcl would have been the strongest driver pairing. But for the wdc it'll be a huge advantage: lewis against the two fer drivers and maybe vettel. Button will bring in points to keep mcl in contention for the wcc.

Strange how Button in 2008 was a poor honda driver and is (thanks to the brawn title winning car) let in by mclaren (topteam)! F1 is crazy!

Same could be said with Massa and his time at Sauber, some drivers are better in top cars.

[Captain Tightpants]

Strange how Button in 2008 was a poor honda driver and is (thanks to the brawn title winning car) let in by mclaren (topteam)! F1 is crazy!

If Button didn't have the rights to the number one, McLaren wouldn't have given him a second thought.

[Alx09]

I wish Macca will go for Heidfield, but I guess it will either be Raikkonen or Button. Of those 2 I'd prefer Raikkonen.

[Anomnader]

If Button didn't have the rights to the number one, McLaren wouldn't have given him a second thought.

Maybe be, maybe not, theres not many drivers better then button plus the 1 will carry much need sponsorship.

[Captain Tightpants]

Maybe be, maybe not, theres not many drivers better then button plus the 1 will carry much need sponsorship.

What "much-needed sponsorship"? They've flush with Vodafone money. And even if they eren't, they're McLaren, one of the biggest names in the sport. The day McLaren can't get sponsorship is the day Ferrari start letting newspapers decide their driver line-ups.