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#3401 DILLIGAF

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 08:43

You have this bit wrong. It's the engine that was replaced that cannot be used until the last race. The 9th engine can be used as normal for the next races.


:up: Spot on Clatter.

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#3402 flyer121

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 08:56

This probably came up in the race thread already, but it's better to discuss it here: Why did Vettel pit in the same lap as Alonso? I think he had two options: pit earlier (but maybe this was not possible because he wouldn't be in clean air) or stay out for another lap. He got very close to Alonso, so if he stays out for another lap and pushes really hard, there is at least a small chance to get by Alonso, in particular because the F10 always needs some time to warm up the hard tyre. Pitting in the same lap seems to have almost zero chance to overtake Alonso (it's unlikely that the pit crew is that much faster), so does anyone have a clue why RB did this?


Actually he and Alonso were so far in the front that they didnt lose track postion coz of pitting.

If Vettel did come in early then he would have come out a few corners ahead of the rest of the pack and far behind Alonso to be in clean air.

In fact - by not pitting early , he spent the entire race in Alonso 's dirty air.

But to be fair - I guess that RBR did try to do just that but Ferrari saw their boys coming out of the garage and decided to call in Alonso at short notice.

Edited by flyer121, 01 October 2010 - 08:57.


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Posted 01 October 2010 - 10:32

Red Bull Porsche?

#3404 Dunder

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 10:32

The BBC commentary team were trying to work out who was shadowing who... they even had some suggestions from Ferrari that they were all shadowing McLaren - which is clearly a fib because McLaren had no chance of catching either car.

Best explanation is that both teams made late calls to pit on the same lap. Vettel was very close to Alonso at that point and by the time he saw Alonso pull in he was already committed. Personally speaking, in that split-second, I would have liked to see Vettel decide to stay out, but it is a brave driver that over-rules the pit wall.

I was surprised they took a risk on Webber's strategy. It paid off, in part due to a couple of good passes, but when you are leading the WDC, surely a safe 5th is a better bet than a gamble on somewhere between 3rd and 8th?


I was surprised too but having looked at it again after the race it could have worked out to have been a brilliant move.
If there had been another safety car before lap 20, he would have been in the lead effectively.

As you say though getting past Schumacher, in particular, was crucial for him.


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Posted 01 October 2010 - 10:48

That is a postfrom 26 Sept.


http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/87103



Red Bull denied Merc. now what? ed Bull cars have tight relationships with VW cars, in effect, today's news might be seen as a link to it.

Red Bull Porsche to happen, and Red Bull to pay bills for it?

#3406 DILLIGAF

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 11:05

That is a postfrom 26 Sept.


http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/87103



Red Bull denied Merc. now what? ed Bull cars have tight relationships with VW cars, in effect, today's news might be seen as a link to it.

Red Bull Porsche to happen, and Red Bull to pay bills for it?


Red Bull Porche - I like the sound of that. Here's hoping.

#3407 sosidge

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 11:07

That is a postfrom 26 Sept.


http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/87103



Red Bull denied Merc. now what? ed Bull cars have tight relationships with VW cars, in effect, today's news might be seen as a link to it.

Red Bull Porsche to happen, and Red Bull to pay bills for it?


I'm sure Porsche would like it to happen that way, especially if Vettel is still at the wheel. Not sure that Red Bull would want to take a risk on a brand new engine package, especially if they remain front runners through 2011/2012.

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 12:22

I'm sure Porsche would like it to happen that way, especially if Vettel is still at the wheel. Not sure that Red Bull would want to take a risk on a brand new engine package, especially if they remain front runners through 2011/2012.

:up:

still RB will pay much for them to come in, I assume, as RB has this weak point. Keen to know what Williams will do. They diliked the way BMW stepped on their tow, ...

#3409 orndorf

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 12:40

If Porsche come in to F1 it wont be till 2013 when everyone will have new engines and it will be an equal playing field.

Webber probably wont be around by then so whether they team up with RedBull or not doesnt interest me much.

#3410 FPV GTHO

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 14:13

Assuming Porsche are looking at getting involved with Red Bull in the first place. Theres also Williams who have had some pretty strong links made between themselves and VW lately, then also Force India who could pull it off.

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 16:12

Surely Porsche if they enter, will hook up with Williams, as you say FPV GTHO, they're already co-operating.

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Posted 04 October 2010 - 10:06

Strange thing is happeningat Lotus, no news, and very strange confrontation betwen the group Lotus. It might al abot their power and fame striggle, but if it is something to do with their engine,... Like Porsche to pick Lotus just start up their business in low key, before the Sh1t hits fan.

In anyways, Webber has got two fresh engines to run for FP1, FP2 and for FP3, meaning that it will count for that magic, "Third time Run the Best Output (TRBO)" theory?

Getting more curous abot the next move from Red Bull. No news good news? My guts says that The team will adopt Lasse Fair...?

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Posted 04 October 2010 - 10:25

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#3414 Mastah

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Posted 05 November 2010 - 11:17

Red Bull with Renault engines for next 2 years:

The team has announced it has agreed a two-year extension to its current partnership with French engine manufacturer Renault.

In recognition of the renewed partnership, Red Bull Racing will feature greater Renault visibility starting from this weekend’s Brazilian Grand Prix. The Renault logo will appear on the noses of both RB6s and its name will be on the visors of both Sebastian Vettel and Mark Webber’s race helmets.

Christian Horner, Red Bull Racing Team Principal, said: “We’re pleased to announce this extension. We have always enjoyed a very straightforward relationship with Renault and they have supported us extremely fairly during the past four seasons, contributing to our 13 grand prix victories so far. The relationship continues to evolve and we look forward to working with them during our 2011 Formula One World Championship campaign.”

http://www.redbullra...mp;refmodpos=A1



#3415 H2H

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Posted 08 November 2010 - 10:06

WCC

:clap: Thanks guys :clap:


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Edited by H2H, 08 November 2010 - 10:06.