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#2451 Latro

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 18:30

Any news on today's rally? Did he do good times?


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#2452 MadYarpen

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 20:19

maybe not from this rally, but Robert wanted to start in Jolly Rally in Mini WRC this weekend I think, but due to some formalities he couldn't...
http://robertkubica....ystartowal.html

#2453 cravenciak

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 20:20

Mini RRC.

#2454 Latro

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 22:20

I'm talking about Rally Alta Valtidone.
He was with number 0. Any news on that?
It was testing but do we know what times he was doing vs others?

#2455 cravenciak

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 22:43

If you want "news", simply check previous page. Don't know anything about his times, but it was fast, very fast drive.

#2456 BRG

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 14:03

Don't know anything about his times, but it was fast, very fast drive.

If you don't know anything about his times, how exactly do you know that he was very fast? :confused:

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 14:29

If you don't know anything about his times, how exactly do you know that he was very fast? :confused:


:lol: +1

#2458 cravenciak

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 14:49

If you don't know anything about his times, how exactly do you know that he was very fast? :confused:


Check the video I gave before and compare Robert with others. Nothing complicated.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 15:55

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#2460 cravenciak

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 21:47



#2461 Dino2000

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 22:54


Grazie!

Dino

#2462 BRG

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 10:24

Check the video I gave before and compare Robert with others. Nothing complicated.

Seriously? You based your opinion on that snatch of video? I thought he looked slow, very slow. And that opinion is just as asinine as yours.

Edited by BRG, 09 October 2012 - 10:24.


#2463 Atreiu

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 10:34

McLaren should give him some test days aboard a MP4-25.
Just saying...

#2464 Sarhan

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 10:37

Onboard

http://www.youtube.c...p;v=svA02WPgBtc



#2465 tanechka

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:10

Comments from Italian Rally Forum:

e complimenti a quell'apripista con il numero zero: chi era?????


Ciao
scusate ma a proposito dell'apripista con il nuomero 0
al parco assistenza si favoleggiava di tempi strepitosi di Kubica
quacuno sa niente di preciso?
grazie

Si parla che dava 7 sec a prova a Tiramani. ma ufficialmente non lo so.


Kubica mostra la differenza tra gentleman e professionisti


So I guess for them he looked pretty fast as well...

Edited by tanechka, 09 October 2012 - 11:10.


#2466 DrProzac

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 20:00

Thanks :)

I wonder what they were saying in the interviews at the end (both Robert and Sossella).

#2467 bkfman

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 10:27

Thanks :)

I wonder what they were saying in the interviews at the end (both Robert and Sossella).

Robert said what we could already hear ( translated by tvn24 I believe) that the rally was about seeing how his body would react in these conditions, not about being fastest, that mayby the road to recovery won't be so long as he previously thought and he was also speaking about the rally itself i.e. he was angry (well, sort of) for himself about tyre choice, but the team and his co-pilot did excellent job making possible final win, and generally they had fun. Sossella admitted that from certain point of the rally he stoped pushing because he feared some stupid mistake would prevent him to clinch the IRC title, but anyway Robert is a great, great champion.

Edited by bkfman, 10 October 2012 - 10:33.


#2468 DrProzac

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 18:54

Thanks :)

#2469 kosmic33

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 21:16

anybody knows whether there is any reasonable connection between poland and whatever place rally do var tkes place in?

Theres none whatsoever.

Also, until you see pictures of him driving a rally car with the gearshift in the proper position (right hand) I wouldn't be expecting him in any kind of racing car.
Its hydraulically activated paddleshift, most drivers use 2 or 3 fingers to activate it, and its very light......

#2470 MadYarpen

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:13

Theres none whatsoever.

Also, until you see pictures of him driving a rally car with the gearshift in the proper position (right hand) I wouldn't be expecting him in any kind of racing car.
Its hydraulically activated paddleshift, most drivers use 2 or 3 fingers to activate it, and its very light......

Well, this is kind of normally operated;)
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#2471 DrProzac

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 16:32

Also Ford Fiesta WRC. There were also reports of him testing a Porsche GT race car.

Edited by DrProzac, 11 October 2012 - 16:33.


#2472 MadYarpen

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 21:40

TOMek R.K.Klub ‏@TOMek_RK_Klub
@TROJKAdaMalecki świetnie! przed momentem tvp sport potwierdziło to co rano napisaliśmy :) Robert był najszybszy w Val Tidone!

TVP Sport confirmed Rob was the fastest in Val Tidone. I mean... Nice he is beating WRC cars... In S1600 :lol:

Sure it was amateur rally;) But it is cool news anyway:)

Edited by MadYarpen, 11 October 2012 - 21:43.


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Posted 11 October 2012 - 21:45

Seriously? You based your opinion on that snatch of video? I thought he looked slow, very slow. And that opinion is just as asinine as yours.


As we see now I was right, so snatch of video is enough, at least for me.

#2474 MadYarpen

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 15:47

Rob was recently watching sanremo rally, as a spectator:
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chubby rob:
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#2475 DrProzac

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 16:58

Nice one Robert, beating WRCs in a S1600 being the zero car. Though given that he was faster than S2000s before, I'm not shocked at all.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 11:25

There are some rumors that Robert may be a Ford factory driver in ERC (European Rally Championship - successor of IRC, most rounds will be tarmac). What do you think?

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 11:51

Wouldn't be surprised at all. I'd love to see how he'd do.

#2478 MadYarpen

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 11:51

There are some rumors that Robert may be a Ford factory driver in ERC (European Rally Championship - successor of IRC, most rounds will be tarmac). What do you think?

mixing it with some racing series would be great, if only possible (he said 70% racing and 30% rallying, right?). I'd take it!
But If you are asking if this is true, I have no idea!

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 20:27

I'm very anxiuos to see which racing series he'll be competing in.

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#2480 kosmic33

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 20:52

There are some rumors that Robert may be a Ford factory driver in ERC (European Rally Championship - successor of IRC, most rounds will be tarmac). What do you think?

Do you have a source for these rumours?


#2481 DrProzac

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 21:01

Nothing worth posting, otherwise I'd provide it :). I posted it here mostly hoping for some more info.

It's mostly speculation based on some suggestive but not direct comments made by one of the Polish Eurosport commentator, the fact that Robert tested for Ford (and IIRC reportedly had some connections pre-accident) and that he said that he may appear in Jänner Rally.

Edited by DrProzac, 14 October 2012 - 21:17.


#2482 MadYarpen

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 21:09

I've seen it on twitter, so rumour is spreading. Robert is back to rehab now, so the void must be filled;)

Anway, what car would he drive there? Fiesta S2000?

Edited by MadYarpen, 14 October 2012 - 21:17.


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Posted 14 October 2012 - 21:13

I've seen it on twitter, so rumour is spreading. Robert is back to rehab now, so the void must be filled;)

Anway, what car would he drive there? Fieste S2000?

If he's going to be contracted to either M-Sport or Ford it will almost definitely be the Fiesta R5

#2484 DrProzac

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 21:13

Probably.

BTW according to reports from people on site of his last rally start (in the Clio) he was twice fastest by 7 seconds on two first stages, by 9 on stage three and by 14 on stage four (compared to Mauro Tirmani in Citroen Xsara WRC). He also made a small mistake, braking too late and touching lightly an armco barrier (photo in the link below). Many drivers had problems there due to gravel on the road.
http://klubfanakubic...morelli-cd.html

Edited by DrProzac, 14 October 2012 - 21:15.


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Posted 14 October 2012 - 21:16

Nothing worth posting, otherwise I'd provide it :). I posted it here mostly hoping for some more info.

It's mostly speculation based on some suggestive but not direct comments of one of the Polish Eurosport commentator, the fact that Robert tested for Ford (and IIRC reportedly had some connections pre-accident) and that he said that he may appear in Jänner Rally.


What I find confusing is why Robert is going to rally with Citroen C3 WRC. Maby those links with Ford aren't that strong after all

#2486 MadYarpen

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 21:18

What I find confusing is why Robert is going to rally with Citroen C3 WRC. Maby those links with Ford aren't that strong after all

C4;)

He is private person for now, and I guess this is the best car he can get. He is paying for that after all.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 21:18

Probably.

BTW according to reports from people on site of his last rally start (in the Clio) he was twice fastest by 7 seconds on two first stages, by 9 on stage three and by 14 on stage four (compared to Mauro Tirmani in Citroen Xsara WRC). He also made a small mistake, braking too late and touching lightly an armco barrier (photo in the link below). Many drivers had problems there due to gravel on the road.
http://klubfanakubic...morelli-cd.html


That only shows how low the level of competition was

#2488 BRG

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 22:22

There are some rumors that Robert may be a Ford factory driver in ERC (European Rally Championship - successor of IRC, most rounds will be tarmac). What do you think?

Seems unlikely. Ford have not run any works cars in the IRC except for a couple of one-off outings, and their budget for the WRC has been under pressure for some time. So an increase in spending and activity in the new ERC is not likely to be considered.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 22:23

That only shows how low the level of competition was

Don't forget that zero cars are not officially timed, ever, so the only person who would know Roberts stage times is his navigator, and since Robert is quite private, I doubt he'd want that info shared

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 22:27

Seems unlikely. Ford have not run any works cars in the IRC except for a couple of one-off outings, and their budget for the WRC has been under pressure for some time. So an increase in spending and activity in the new ERC is not likely to be considered.

Although, factory teams are allowed 3 cars next year and ford havnt exactly got any Tarmac experts so maybe he could end up doing the Tarmac rounds and helping with the Tarmac development of the car?

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 22:55

the story comes from Polish eurosport comentator, who said during sanremo broadcast that one of factory drivers in ERC for ford will be Giandomenico Basso, and the other will be a surprise. I haven't heard this, and I don't know whether it was in the perspective of Robert's test with Ford, but it is just a wild rumour for now.

#2492 BRG

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 11:30

I think there is a misunderstanding here between Ford and M-Sport. M-Sport are contracted to run cars for Ford in the WRC. They also develop cars for that and other rally series themselves on a commercial basis. That's why M-Sport are shown as a manufacturer in the IRC standings. I doubt if any Ford money is behind their efforts in IRC. Similarly, if they run cars in the ERC, it will be as M-Sport rather than Ford and they will have to be fully sponsored to pay for them. If Kubica could source, or cause to be sourced, sufficient funding for M-Sport to run a car for him, then it could happen. I can't see him getting a fully paid drive though, I doubt there will be anyone in that situation in the ERC next year.

#2493 MadYarpen

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 11:50

Well, I can only repeat that it was said to be Ford factory team - confusion is not coming from my side. i also have no knowledge about ERC, so I acknowledge what you said.

I also imagine, that Robert could get Lotto or Orlen to pay for his campaign, i don't know how much it would have to be though.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 12:11

Well, I can only repeat that it was said to be Ford factory team - confusion is not coming from my side. i also have no knowledge about ERC, so I acknowledge what you said.

I also imagine, that Robert could get Lotto or Orlen to pay for his campaign, i don't know how much it would have to be though.

As it was a Eurosport comment, it may not be confusion so much as obfuscation. Eurosport are promoting the ERC next year so want to talk it up to the max, so 'Ford factory drive' sounds a lot better than 'M-Sport paid-for drive'. And also they may be clasping at straws and rumours about Kubica for the same reason, bearing in mind the media frenzy & impact that Kimi had when he went to the WRC. If Kubica does end up driving in the ERC, it will definitely attract massive media interest, compared to you or me getting an ERC drive!

As for how much, I don't know but it would not be mega money by F1 standards. After all, Kimi funded his 2011 WRC team pretty much from his own pocket and the ERC won't cost as much as that did. If Kubica can bring a good sponsor, or if his name allows M-Sport to attract one, then it is entirely feasible. He may find it harder to be competitive than some of his fans think though, as we saw with Kimi and the WRC.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 12:31

He may find it harder to be competitive than some of his fans think though, as we saw with Kimi and the WRC.

True, but there still is hope for some racing for Robert i 2013 (well this is his plan after all), and that is where I would expect him to be competitive.

Edited by MadYarpen, 15 October 2012 - 12:31.


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Posted 15 October 2012 - 15:28

Well, so much for that it seems :lol:

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 15:37

well Robert will be fine, but it is so sad really

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 17:30

So apparently Piero Ferrari, vice-president of Ferrari confirmed that:
1. If not the accident, Robert would have already been an Ferrari driver (we knew that, though some did not believe)
2. They are in contact with him.
3. They would like to see him driving for them and they follow the progress of his rehabilitation.

Edited by DrProzac, 28 October 2012 - 17:59.


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Posted 28 October 2012 - 17:36

Source? :)

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 17:44

Source? :)

From interview presented in polish TV (TVP Info exactly).