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#1 WorldChampion

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 00:01

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CAlendar, Drivers, Teams for the upcoming IRC season

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#2 kosmic33

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 15:38

Discuss

CAlendar, Drivers, Teams for the upcoming IRC season

woh this question looks familiar

Calendar: Excellent. Monte, Ypres, San Remo, Curitibra & Scotland!!!!

Drivers: Meeke will win again now that he knows the rallies although kopecky will run him even closer than this year. if wilks gets a drive he will complain, a lot, making lots of excuses for why he is not hammering meeke as per his usual pre-rally predictions. McRae will find it hard to compete until that proton finds another 25-30bhp.

Teams: Looks like peugeot(belgium) will be scaling back their team & fiat are gone next year but at least there'll be proton and the msd corsa will be out a lot more too & there'll be a few privately owned m-sport run fiestas too so things are looking up for the irc

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 15:42

I hope M. Märtin is in start list in Monaco

#4 Scorg

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 16:03

I was at the Scotland round last weekend.
Drivers, FIA and Organisers seem happy with it all, so thats a good sign.
But for spectators and media finding some of the stages was extremely difficault, no sign posting until 500 metres before that area. So that needs improved.
If anyones been to any of the other rallys, what have they been like for spectator signage ?

It was spectacular to watch a rally event and amazingly I felt I got a better spot from a none spectating area
You can get extremely close to the cars as they go by and within the service park, the access there is excellent, you can roam around the maintenence area, the parc ferme area and even chat with the drivers if they feel upto it.

The Marshalls at the Errochty stage I ended up at, they were great, friendly and happy to chat about the event.

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 18:31

I was at the Scotland round last weekend.
Drivers, FIA and Organisers seem happy with it all, so thats a good sign.
But for spectators and media finding some of the stages was extremely difficault, no sign posting until 500 metres before that area. So that needs improved.
If anyones been to any of the other rallys, what have they been like for spectator signage ?

It was spectacular to watch a rally event and amazingly I felt I got a better spot from a non spectating area
You can get extremely close to the cars as they go by and within the service park, the access there is excellent, you can roam around the maintenence area, the parc ferme area and even chat with the drivers if they feel upto it.

The Marshalls at the Errochty stage I ended up at, they were great, friendly and happy to chat about the event.

have to say i've heard that from a few people but the irc's open and welcoming atmosphere more than made up for it.
I'm sure the sinage problems will be sorted next year and the views were worth the hassle!

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 18:57

Calendar: Excellent. Monte, Ypres, San Remo, Curitibra & Scotland!!!!


And this: ;)

Sad to hear Fiat will leave, I didn't know about that...

Edited by paranoik0, 29 November 2009 - 18:57.


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Posted 29 November 2009 - 23:15

If you want a great event to go to...or if you are a racing fans and not been to a rally before, then go to Ypres!

IT IS SIMPLY AWSOME!!!!

The atmosphere of the town..(the last post played by the fire brigade at the menin gate at 8pm, played every night since 1918...think about that..EVERY night...will make any grown man get a lump in his throat).

The beer, the french fries and mayo... the classic night stages through small villages with chicanes on cobbles....the classic even, with Escorts, Porsche's, Opels, etc....

It is just what Rallying should be...and its barely an hour and a half from Calais...DO IT!!!!!!!

As to the championship... I suspect it wont all go Meekes way...I think the Skoda's will be good...the Fiesta looks superb and others might cause a suprise...



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Posted 30 November 2009 - 12:50

As to the championship... I suspect it wont all go Meekes way...I think the Skoda's will be good...the Fiesta looks superb and others might cause a suprise...

wonder will there be a few surprise entries for the monte?
would be great to see auriol get a proper run at it this year & maybe a run out for duval?
Heard irishman gareth mchale is entered in a corsa too. Dont think he has the outright pace to challenge but thats the great thing about the monte-carlo; yo never do know whats gonna happen!

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Posted 01 December 2009 - 02:02

wonder will there be a few surprise entries for the monte?
would be great to see auriol get a proper run at it this year & maybe a run out for duval?
Heard irishman gareth mchale is entered in a corsa too. Dont think he has the outright pace to challenge but thats the great thing about the monte-carlo; yo never do know whats gonna happen!


agreed...Monte is the great "gamble" excuse the pun...

Guys like Loix, Duval...etc are all great on the black stuff, but I suspect we may see a few surprise names enter...;)

#10 WorldChampion

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Posted 01 December 2009 - 10:20

There are talks Solberg and Martin could turn for Monte Carlo

#11 kosmic33

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Posted 01 December 2009 - 10:20

agreed...Monte is the great "gamble" excuse the pun...

Guys like Loix, Duval...etc are all great on the black stuff, but I suspect we may see a few surprise names enter...;)

I forgot about the m-sport fiesta although they dont seem to be overly confident that it'll be as quick as the skoda straight out of the box.....

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Posted 01 December 2009 - 15:29

Portuguese double champ Bruno Magalhães is confirmed to be on the Monte, and there's talks about him possibly doing 8 rounds of the IRC calendar.

Think it's about time the guy gets a break to show what he's capable of, although he's got himself into an habit of running into bad luck whenever he's into any sort of international rally.

Speaking of S2000s and Fiestas, Bernardo Sousa has just been confirmed today to do the WRC Cup this season with the M-Sport Fiesta. Hope he'll mature into less of a crasher this season!

Edited by paranoik0, 01 December 2009 - 15:32.


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Posted 01 December 2009 - 18:36

Word from Rally Scotland was that the S2000 Fiesta would have been on a similar pace to the Proton Satria that McRae was driving.
It was keeping up fairly well on Day 1, but lost a lot on Day 2. So not sure if Matt Wilson was comparing it to Day 1 running or overall weekend running.

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Posted 02 December 2009 - 00:14

Word from Rally Scotland was that the S2000 Fiesta would have been on a similar pace to the Proton Satria that McRae was driving.
It was keeping up fairly well on Day 1, but lost a lot on Day 2. So not sure if Matt Wilson was comparing it to Day 1 running or overall weekend running.


Out of the box that is not bad and I suspect there is a lot more to come from that little beasty!



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Posted 03 December 2009 - 01:13

Out of the box that is not bad and I suspect there is a lot more to come from that little beasty!

from what i saw it seemed to be going a lot quicker on the saturday, so much so that some were (wrongly) suggesting that maybe hirv or latvala was driving!

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Posted 06 December 2009 - 13:50

So Hirvonnen is going to do the Monte in the new Fiesta! Nice...

and now Subaru announce their return to world rallying with a manufactuer registration for the IRC....
http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/80451

Things are starting to look truly superb for the IRC next year and long may they continue to forge a path to the type of rallying the fans want to see .... i.e. MANY drivers with the opportunity to fight for wins....

Are you watching ISC???????? You may have Kimi Raikonnen... but the WRC has become a joke and ISC provide the clowns.....

Edited by FlatOverCrest, 06 December 2009 - 13:51.


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Posted 06 December 2009 - 14:12

Are you watching ISC???????? You may have Kimi Raikonnen... but the WRC has become a joke and ISC provide the clowns.....

Dude, I think everyone following this board knows what you think about this topic already. In my eyes you've earned a lot of respect with your knowledge about rallying topics, but you're starting to sound like a broken record player.

#18 WorldChampion

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Posted 07 December 2009 - 13:52

Subaru joining :clap: :clap:

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Posted 07 December 2009 - 13:56

Dude, I think everyone following this board knows what you think about this topic already. In my eyes you've earned a lot of respect with your knowledge about rallying topics, but you're starting to sound like a broken record player.


I know Dave, you just hope to drive it home and maybe, pray to god, something changes, it's just until now, no one has really pointed out the true state of affairs. I have a piece I am writing about the state of rallying per say, which I have to confess will cover some of this ground, so if your interested, just skip the ISC bits!  ;)



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Posted 07 December 2009 - 14:46

It's nice to see Subaru coming back to rally racing again. I understand they are entering Dakar 2010 with a works team too.

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 23:17

Just been given the heads up to have a look at this....

Its a video a guy has pulled together from the recent Fiesta S2000 Monte test recently. You'll have to forgive the music at the start and end of the vid, he does turn it off for the middle section though... :lol:

I have to say....this little Fiesta is looking very good! Mikko was doing the test driving and it does indeed bode well for a cracking Monte!

The one thing you can notice though is the slight 'lack' of torque that Colin McRae was always describing with the S2000 cars. You see this most evidently on the uphill hairpins, the car 'bogs' slightly where a WRC car would just eat such a corner up.

I think they could easily let the S2000 cars go to 350BHP keeping the 2.0 Litre engine... and we have a fantastic winning formula for great future rallying!

Enjoy... (minus the music...not my fault) :lol:




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Posted 04 January 2010 - 15:41

15 DAYS TO GO.....until the Monte Carlo Rally.....

http://www.acm.mc/ra...main.php?lng=en

Unfortunately Francois Duval has had to pull out of the season opener and will be out for about 8 weeks with two broken vertebrae after slipping on some ice at home in Belgium after a recent Proton test.

But the comments of the ACM I think are very interesting...

As Rene Isoart, General Commissioner of the ACM, said, "The Monte Carlo Rally is staying with the IRC because we have found within this series all the necessary ingredients to allow the Rally to return to the fundamental values of the sport".


Hits the nail pretty squarely on the head!

During the test that Francois Duval attended prior to his slip! MEM also tested anton alen and Matti Rantanen with the Proton Satria Neo S2000 and it looks like both are considering joining the works Proton team.


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Posted 11 January 2010 - 09:01

I really really like Eurosport's coverage of the Monte Carlo Rally! All the stages live except stage number 10 and 11! :love:

Rallye Automobile Monte-Carlo 2010

SS 01 / SS 03: Burzet - Lachamp-Raphaël (27,27 km - Wednesday 20 January, 11:51 & 15:02)

SS 02 / SS 04: St-Pierreville - Antraigues (45,17 km - Wednesday 20 January, 12:59 & 16:10)

SS 05 / SS 08: Labatie d'Andaure - St-Pierre sur Doux (25,30 km - Thursday 21 January, 10:13 & 15:28)

SS 06 / SS 09: St-Bonnet-le-Froid - St-Julien-Molhesabate - St-Bonnet-le-Froid (25,67 km - Thursday 21 January, 10:55 & 16:10)

SS 07 / SS 10: Lamastre - Gilhoc - Alboussière (21,92 km - Thursday 21 January, 12:20 & 18:05)

SS 11: Montauban sur l'Ouvèze - Eygalayes (30,42 km - Friday 22 January, 09:23)

SS 12 / SS 14: Peïra-Cava - La Bollène-Vésubie (18,42 km - Friday 22 January, 19:15 & 23:20)

SS 13 / SS 15: Lantosque - Lucéram (19,13 km - Friday 22 January, 19:48 & 23:53)




#24 Mark A

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 09:15

Kubica now taking part in Monte in the Renault.

1st time for years I'm looking forward to the Monte.

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 10:41

I really really like Eurosport's coverage of the Monte Carlo Rally! All the stages live except stage number 10 and 11! :love:

Rallye Automobile Monte-Carlo 2010

SS 01 / SS 03: Burzet - Lachamp-Raphaël (27,27 km - Wednesday 20 January, 11:51 & 15:02)

SS 02 / SS 04: St-Pierreville - Antraigues (45,17 km - Wednesday 20 January, 12:59 & 16:10)

SS 05 / SS 08: Labatie d'Andaure - St-Pierre sur Doux (25,30 km - Thursday 21 January, 10:13 & 15:28)

SS 06 / SS 09: St-Bonnet-le-Froid - St-Julien-Molhesabate - St-Bonnet-le-Froid (25,67 km - Thursday 21 January, 10:55 & 16:10)

SS 07 / SS 10: Lamastre - Gilhoc - Alboussière (21,92 km - Thursday 21 January, 12:20 & 18:05)

SS 11: Montauban sur l'Ouvèze - Eygalayes (30,42 km - Friday 22 January, 09:23)

SS 12 / SS 14: Peïra-Cava - La Bollène-Vésubie (18,42 km - Friday 22 January, 19:15 & 23:20)

SS 13 / SS 15: Lantosque - Lucéram (19,13 km - Friday 22 January, 19:48 & 23:53)


Woah! :eek: :love:

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 13:49

I really really like Eurosport's coverage of the Monte Carlo Rally! All the stages live except stage number 10 and 11! :love:

Rallye Automobile Monte-Carlo 2010

SS 01 / SS 03: Burzet - Lachamp-Raphaël (27,27 km - Wednesday 20 January, 11:51 & 15:02)

SS 02 / SS 04: St-Pierreville - Antraigues (45,17 km - Wednesday 20 January, 12:59 & 16:10)

SS 05 / SS 08: Labatie d'Andaure - St-Pierre sur Doux (25,30 km - Thursday 21 January, 10:13 & 15:28)

SS 06 / SS 09: St-Bonnet-le-Froid - St-Julien-Molhesabate - St-Bonnet-le-Froid (25,67 km - Thursday 21 January, 10:55 & 16:10)

SS 07 / SS 10: Lamastre - Gilhoc - Alboussière (21,92 km - Thursday 21 January, 12:20 & 18:05)

SS 11: Montauban sur l'Ouvèze - Eygalayes (30,42 km - Friday 22 January, 09:23)

SS 12 / SS 14: Peïra-Cava - La Bollène-Vésubie (18,42 km - Friday 22 January, 19:15 & 23:20)

SS 13 / SS 15: Lantosque - Lucéram (19,13 km - Friday 22 January, 19:48 & 23:53)


They have truly done a superb job to bring this together to offer that much 'live' coverage.... Not cheap....but then when you have the manufacturer interest in a proper world championship, then the money is available to pay for it...

Well done Eurosport... top notch!

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 14:05

I might have to start watching rallying again. I think the last time I watched was Petter Solberg winning the title. It seems that the IRC have a decent product.

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 14:12

Great Entry List for Monte Carlo....

http://www.acm.mc/ra..._list__2010.pdf

Some may feel my opinion may slightly biased against the WRC and the incomptents that run it...but it's not just me;

Toni Gardemeister feels some of the best drivers in the world are actually now in the IRC rather than the WRC...
http://www.ircseries...ews.asp?id=1435

Meeke has been given top seed...
http://www.ircseries...ews.asp?id=1434

With Kubica entered....and I suspect a few surprise late entries...

THIS....is what a WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP should look like.... :up:

Edited by FlatOverCrest, 11 January 2010 - 14:13.


#29 Rob

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 00:02

Does anyone know if anyone will be running highlights programmes? I could record all the live coverage, but there simply isn't enough time left in the day when I get home from work!

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Posted 12 January 2010 - 01:11

Does anyone know if anyone will be running highlights programmes? I could record all the live coverage, but there simply isn't enough time left in the day when I get home from work!


Eurosport does highlights and the IRC website also hosts highlight programmes

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Posted 18 January 2010 - 12:56

1 Day to go before the start of the Monte Carlo Rally... :up:

The IRC just announced a nifty new way for people with swanky iPhones to keep up with coverage....
http://www.ircseries...ews.asp?id=1449

Latest news/reports and interviews from the drivers here:
http://www.ircseries.com/html/

Conditions seem about perfect for an epic Monte!

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Posted 19 January 2010 - 19:51

Tuesday night's stage completed! Now we know the running order for tomorrow: Stephane Sarrazin opens the roads followed by Bouffier and Wilks.

1 GARDEMEISTER/TUOMINEN Abarth Grande Punto S2000 N/4 6:54,2
2 VOUILLOZ/VEILLAS Skoda Fabia S2000 N/4 6:55,4
3 KOPECKY/STARY Skoda Fabia S2000 N/4 6:57,5
4 MEEKE/NAGLE Peugeot 207 S2000 N/4 7:01,7
5 HIRVONEN/LEHTINEN Ford Fiesta S2000 N/4 7:06,8
6 HANNINEN/MARKKULA Skoda Fabia S2000 N/4 7:09,0
7 WITTMANN/WICHA Peugeot 207 S2000 N/4 7:09,3
8 WILKS/PUGH Skoda Fabia S2000 N/4 7:13,1
9 BOUFFIER/PANSERI Subaru Impreza WRX STI N/4 7:13,1
10 SARRAZIN/RENUCCI Peugeot 207 S2000 N/4 7:14,9

Edited by ApexTomi, 19 January 2010 - 20:01.


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Posted 19 January 2010 - 20:17

It's a great first stage effort for Gardemeister! :up:

Meeke and Wilks in useful positions...but this event can be a complete lottery!

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Posted 19 January 2010 - 20:31

bad news for Kubica...

The rally got off to a disappointing start for Renault Formula One driver Robert Kubica. He is reported to have retired from the prologue stage with a suspected engine failure. It’s not clear if he will start the rally proper on Wednesday.



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Posted 19 January 2010 - 22:50

I've posted a Youtube clip from the Prologue's stage at the FORIX.com Facebook Group=

http://www.facebook....id=111194985401

onboard from Andrej Jereb (Peugeot 207 S2000)


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Posted 20 January 2010 - 14:43

Good start for Hirovenen, Sarazan, Meeke etc.

Very worrying to hear about spectators putting snow on the stages, resulting in Ogiers off. Absoltley disgusting.

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Posted 20 January 2010 - 15:03

Coverage has switched to Eurosport 2 because of the Tennis.

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Posted 20 January 2010 - 15:12

Coverage has switched to Eurosport 2 because of the Tennis.


OK, seriously if they're going to switch channels I wish they'd actually tell you, rather than just saying 'we'll be back after the break'. Suddenly found myself watching the Tennis again.

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Posted 20 January 2010 - 15:13

OK, seriously if they're going to switch channels I wish they'd actually tell you, rather than just saying 'we'll be back after the break'. Suddenly found myself watching the Tennis again.


Also, those of us who are at work and can't watch the coverage will have an evening of recorded tennis to look forward to.

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Posted 20 January 2010 - 15:26

Also, those of us who are at work and can't watch the coverage will have an evening of recorded tennis to look forward to.


It's switched back to Eurosport if that helps.

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Posted 20 January 2010 - 16:25

I know that Hirvonen is a couple of cuts above the others as a driver, but I didn't expect the Ford would be that quick. I thought he'd have a struggle against better cars, but it just shows the class difference between drivers such as Meeke, Wilks et al compared to the WRC. Meeke better than Sordo? Sorry David Evans :wave:

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Posted 20 January 2010 - 16:42

I know that Hirvonen is a couple of cuts above the others as a driver, but I didn't expect the Ford would be that quick. I thought he'd have a struggle against better cars, but it just shows the class difference between drivers such as Meeke, Wilks et al compared to the WRC. Meeke better than Sordo? Sorry David Evans :wave:


Not sure you can make such a sweeping statement after 4 stages.

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Posted 20 January 2010 - 19:30

Not sure you can make such a sweeping statement after 4 stages.


Nevermind between different cars. The Fiesta could very well be a cut above everything else in this class, although Julien Maurin was in another and did a very poor time in the only stage he managed to contest, the time might have been already related to his mechanical troubles.

Btw the spectators putting snow on stages is hardly anything new and it's kind of a tradition of the rally. Sucks for Ogier though who looked good as a win contender and now we have less of a close battle for the lead.

I'm satisfied with Bruno Magalhães performance today, 6th is quite good even if he's benefited from several mishaps that happened to his opponents; he hasn't been blindingly quick but still pretty solid for a first time out on snow.

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Posted 20 January 2010 - 19:32

I enjoyed today's coverage more than most WRC events I've ever watched. Very cool :cool:

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Posted 20 January 2010 - 19:36

I enjoyed today's coverage more than most WRC events I've ever watched. Very cool :cool:


I'm a little annoyed that this is during the week because I can't stay at home and watch the stages. :(

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Posted 20 January 2010 - 23:02

Only remembered to bung the telly on at 3 o'clock, just in time for the fogbound 4th stage.

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 09:55

Kris Meeke has crashed out of the Monte Carlo Rally for the second consecutive year. Clipped a bridge and slid down a bank early in the Labatie D’Andaure-St Pierre sur Doux stage and unable to get his Peugeot back up the banking.

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 09:57

Kris Meeke has gone out, a shame as Hirvonen is now almost a minute in front of Hanninen who is currently 2nd.

Although he did lose 10sec to Hanninen in the last stage so hopefully they can start to pull the gap back. Unlikely I think though.

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 10:15

Not sure you can make such a sweeping statement after 4 stages.


Well, he is a WRC vice-champion, after all. IRC is a good series, but let's face it: the (very few) top names in WRC are above IRC frontrunners.

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Posted 21 January 2010 - 10:19

Well, he is a WRC vice-champion, after all. IRC is a good series, but let's face it: the (very few) top names in WRC are above IRC frontrunners.


And the point is that David Evans is so nationalistic that he thinks Meeke could be World Champion (and a replacement to Loeb), and I just say - forget it!