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#51 Kingsleyrob

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Posted 10 December 2009 - 16:11

Give 'im a break...

:lol: :lol: Yeah, give 'im a break. In that long neck of his! :smoking:

Rob :wave:


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#52 Bauble

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Posted 10 December 2009 - 16:11

I am suprised that no one has so far gone for Moss, Mass or Massa. But I suppose the answer is too OBVIOUS.

Regular readers may not be suprised that Eric Dunsdon and myself started the 'Silly Old Fools Club' many years ago.

Bob, Bobble, Babble, or is it bauble?

#53 Tony Matthews

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Posted 10 December 2009 - 16:32

Who is Daft de Bate? Dutch racer from the '70's?

#54 alansart

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Posted 10 December 2009 - 16:43

Who is Daft de Bate? Dutch racer from the '70's?


Brother of Master? :)


#55 Stephen W

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Posted 10 December 2009 - 17:53

It might be a silly thread but the big guns are firing!! :up:

Jeff Jordan or Eddie Jordan?

Aron or Amon?

Jean-Pierre Sarti or Jean-Paul Sartre??

Rob :wave:

PS Oh Lord, I have just noticed I am two posts away from my 1,000th. Taken me over three years, it only took Giraffe about three weeks!! ;)


Shades of the tortoise and the hare, Rob?!?! :wave:


Lightweights!

I think, on balance, this thread WAS a mistake.


Correct

I get the distinct impression that a few people, naming no names of course, aren't treating this thought provoking thread with the seriousness it deserves.


Correct

Any way to get back to the original question - who cares!

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#56 MCS

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Posted 10 December 2009 - 19:25

On conducting a search of the forum, I have discovered that:

a) Neither Marsh is still alive.


I had lunch at The Green Man near Silverstone the other day - table service nowadays - and there is a signed photo of Anthony Marsh hanging on a pillar near the bar.

Hadn't been in for many years. Still a nice enough pub, but not too many motor racing pictures, although a terrific one opposite the Marsh picture of the first lap of the British GP restart in 1973 with Lauda (BRM) and Stewart (Tyrrell) pressing Peterson's Lotus 72 into Stowe.

A chap from Force India came in to pay for their Christmas lunch.

Edited by MCS, 10 December 2009 - 19:26.


#57 kayemod

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Posted 10 December 2009 - 19:34

A chap from Force India came in to pay for their Christmas lunch.


Curry, I suppose.


#58 Bill Becketts

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Posted 10 December 2009 - 21:43

I think, on balance, this thread WAS a mistake. Some have had a bit of fun with it though.

I would suggest though that speculating who's going to have the quickest F1 car next year is equally silly before testing starts. After all, who would have predicted this time last year that Brawn (nee Honda) would end up with both 2009 championships? I know the rules shook things up, but .......

This thread isn't something I would have started during the F1 season (when there are things worth discussing), just something to fill people's time in the off-season. It was deliberately chosen as well to run and run, as they never (to my knowledge at least) raced each other, so how can their be a right answer to this? The magazine has occasionally run some 'unusual' articles during past winters, after all.

If a moderator is reading this and you want to close it down, feel free.

Or does anyone have anything amusing to add yet?


A new thread is like a box of Chocolates.......welcome Mansell4PM

#59 mapguy

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Posted 10 December 2009 - 22:18

A late entrant for the 'Silliest thread of 2009' competition.


+1 :up:


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#60 ghinzani

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 03:50

Not famously at all, but just wrong.

In the early 1970s Mike Hailwood, on a whim, bought a scruffy old 128-foot top-sail schooner, and promptly lost interest in it. Jochen Mass, a proper sailor since his teens, took it over and had it restored to perfection with a lot of effort, time and expenditure. He then sailed it for some 20 years, including several trans-Atlantic sorties. In the 1990s, while he was away racing, he needed it to be taken to the north German coast, and contracted a professional captain and crew to take it there. The professional wrecked it on a sandbank, and it was a total loss. Jochen was desperately saddened by the destruction of his old friend, and has photographs of the boat, in full sail and after the wreck, on the walls of his house in France. He says there's a dockside restaurant in Bremerhaven whose bar and tables are made out of wood from the wreck of his schooner.

Ghinzani's feeble U-boat genes joke does him little credit, but I doubt Jochen will lose any sleep over it. He is a remarkable character and a very nice man - see "Lunch With...." in the current issue of Motor Sport. He tells this and many other stories.....



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#61 ghinzani

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 03:51

Nein! Kapitän zur See Mass wasn't on board the boat at the time, the deed was done by an employee.


Didnt he also break his leg on it at one point? Oh and didnt the Mclaren team call him 'Herman'?

#62 Giraffe

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 08:02

I had lunch at The Green Man near Silverstone the other day


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A few illustrious TNFers and a guest having a noggin & a natter at the aforementioned Green Man during the Silverstone Classic.....


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PS It was very good of of Murray Walker to stand in for Barry when he had to leave early, but no substitute IMHO............ :wave:

Edited by Giraffe, 11 December 2009 - 08:25.


#63 repcobrabham

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 22:15

you're saying none of the existing posts are amusing? harsh ... i've found a few quite funny!

my tip? if people actually respond to your silly thread - don't complain ;)

#64 john t

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 11:30

This is not the silliest thread of 2009! Without meaning to offend, it was the one about the death of an f1 drivers grandmother...

#65 seccotine

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 11:48

It might be a silly thread but the big guns are firing!! :up:

Jeff Jordan or Eddie Jordan?

Aron or Amon?

Jean-Pierre Sarti or Jean-Paul Sartre??

Rob :wave:

PS Oh Lord, I have just noticed I am two posts away from my 1,000th. Taken me over three years, it only took Giraffe about three weeks!! ;)


"Jean-Pierre Sarti or Jean-Paul Sartre" : that is almost hilarious. I vote for that one.


#66 kayemod

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 11:53

"Jean-Pierre Sarti or Jean-Paul Sartre" : that is almost hilarious. I vote for that one.


"I think therefore I race" ?


#67 Tony Matthews

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 12:04

"I think therefore I race" ?

I think I race therefore I am.

#68 Tony Matthews

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 13:07

Alain Proust v Marcel Prost? Or Archimedes battling it out with Archie Scott-Brown. Lester Piggot or Lister Jaguar?

Would Dan Gurney been able to hold a candle to Peter Gurney, assuming the latter was without Bill Brewer, Jan Stewer, Peter Davey et al? We will never know...

Edited by Tony Matthews, 12 December 2009 - 13:13.


#69 Stephen W

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 13:10

Alain Proust v Marcel Prost? Or Archimedes battling it out with Archie Scott-Brown. Lester Piggot or Lister Jaguar?


Now we are getting silly! :up:

Edited by Stephen W, 12 December 2009 - 13:10.


#70 Michael Ferner

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 13:49

Mario Andretti or Giulio Andreotti?

Richard Nixon or Chris Nixon?

Uhlenhaut or Eulenspiegel? :)

AJ Foyt or OJ Simpson?

#71 Dave Ware

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 14:28

Mass, Massa, both lightweights. Let's not forget Walt Maas, who raced Datsun 510s and Z cars in the early and mid-seventies. Who know what he might have achieved had he sat in a McLaren M23....(and if they actually let him out of the pits with it...)

Jackie Stewart, Stuart Lewis-Evans, Lewis Hamilton, Duncan Hamilton...are they related? Is it a conspiricy? It's amazing how these things start making sense once you start thinking about them.





#72 Tony Matthews

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 14:42

Michael Ferner or Werner von Braun? Wolfgang von Trips versus the entire von Trapp family? "One at a time, please!"

#73 Paul Hurdsfield

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 15:37

The hills are alive, with Graham Hill, Damon Hill, Phil Hill, Harewood hill, Scammonden Hill, Prescott hill........................oh sod it, I've not got enough time  ;)

#74 Rob

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 15:39

The hills are alive, with Graham Hill, Damon Hill, Phil Hill, Harewood hill, Scammonden Hill, Prescott hill........................oh sod it, I've not got enough time ;)


Derek Hill, Joshua Hill, etc.

#75 Tony Matthews

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 15:44

Don't forget Hank Hill...

#76 kayemod

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 15:49

Don't forget Hank Hill...


And, since we're discussing retired racing drivers, Overthe Hill.


#77 Tony Matthews

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 16:50

And, since we're discussing retired racing drivers, Overthe Hill.

Has he retired? I didn't know that...

#78 Stephen W

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 17:15

The hills are alive, with Graham Hill, Damon Hill, Phil Hill, Harewood hill, Scammonden Hill, Prescott hill........................oh sod it, I've not got enough time ;)


You forgot Phill Dill! :eek:

#79 Tony Matthews

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 17:29

Hold the dill, and the mayo... That's Teddy Mayo, naturally.

Edited by Tony Matthews, 12 December 2009 - 17:30.


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#80 Phil Rainford

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 17:41

Jim or Petula :confused:

PAR

#81 Tony Matthews

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 17:45

Jim or Petula :confused:

PAR

Who the hell is Petula Rathmann?

#82 alansart

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 18:17

Who the hell is Petula Rathmann?



Pet Rathie...where have you been. Sleeping in the Subway? :drunk: :)

Edited by alansart, 12 December 2009 - 18:18.


#83 Mansell4PM

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 18:22

Three pages already? What have I done?

Even I expected this one to sink faster than a battleship crewed by Albert Trotter.

No doubt an 'in' for those commenting on Jochen's naval record.

#84 Tony Matthews

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 18:25

Pet Rathie...where have you been. Sleeping in the Subway? :drunk: :)

Mais non - le Metro!

#85 Tony Matthews

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 18:26

Albert Trotter or Troy Ruttman?

#86 sterling49

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 18:26

into............"Jo le Taxi " :cat: :lol:

#87 alansart

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 18:29

into............"Jo le Taxi " :cat: :lol:


Was it in a Reliant?

Edited by alansart, 12 December 2009 - 18:32.


#88 sterling49

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 18:34

nah....Bond Bug.................700ES in mandatory Orange :wave:

#89 Lemnpiper

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 19:40

"Jean-Pierre Sarti or Jean-Paul Sartre" : that is almost hilarious. I vote for that one.



Jean Pierre Jarier or Jean Pierre Jabouille








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Posted 13 December 2009 - 16:43

Jean-Pierre Sarti or Jean-Paul Sartre??


Of course, only one of those really existed. But which one? :smoking:

Edited by Risil, 13 December 2009 - 16:44.


#91 seccotine

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Posted 13 December 2009 - 16:58

Johnny Thunders or Johnny Hallyday? (Because the worst jokes have an end, I choose a pathetic one)

#92 D-Type

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Posted 13 December 2009 - 17:17

nah....Bond Bug.................700ES in mandatory Orange :wave:

Somewhat OT (if there is a "T" to go "O" ;) ): is the orange of the Can-Am McLarens the same orange as the Bond Bug? It could be as they were more or less contemporaries and 'thry' wanted the bug to have a sporty image.

Edited by D-Type, 13 December 2009 - 17:19.


#93 kayemod

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Posted 13 December 2009 - 17:51

Somewhat OT (if there is a "T" to go "O" ;) ): is the orange of the Can-Am McLarens the same orange as the Bond Bug? It could be as they were more or less contemporaries and 'thry' wanted the bug to have a sporty image.


Heresy!

I can tell you the exact colours for both McLarens and Bond Bugs. McLarens were moulded in Llewellyn Rylands pigment 11040 Traffic Yellow, whereas Bond Bugs were LR 3957 Tangerine.

Those Bugs were terrible things, inherently unstable. Colin Chapman thought it was a market segment worth looking at though, so Lotus acquired one of them. He jumped into the thing one afternoon, possibly after a convivial lunch, and managed to roll it onto its side on the Hethel test track. Chapman ordered that the thing be removed from his sight forthwith, I've seen different versions of this story in print, but I was there, and that's how I remember it.


#94 chr1s

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Posted 18 January 2014 - 21:35

George Follmer or George Formby?



#95 arttidesco

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Posted 18 January 2014 - 21:46

Derek Bell or Tiffany O'Dell ?



#96 Stephen W

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 09:45

My favourite conundrums are - which is the better?

 

1) The Schumacher Brothers or a Load of Old Cobblers

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4) Dave Charlton or Bobby Charlton

5) Mike Sparken or Sam Tingle



#97 arttidesco

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 10:15

'rfur Daley or Del Boy Trotter ?