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#51 carpenterdesign

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 17:09

1970 was the only year that Posey drove the Autodynamics Dodge Challenger in the Trans Am. Sadly, the glory days were already over by 1972.
Tom

Thank you I just made the change. :up:

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#52 carpenterdesign

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 23:33

I found these photos on another similar forum http://www.autocours....php?f=2&t=9250
Not really sure what they are talking about on the site, do to my lack of knowing what I believe is French, but I loved the pictures!

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Craig Fisher Camaro Marlboro T/A 1967
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1971 Dick Brown Mt Tremblant Camaro Z/28
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1972 Watkins Glen Dick Brown Camaro Z/28

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 00:39

I found these photos on another similar forum http://www.autocours....php?f=2&t=9250
Not really sure what they are talking about on the site, do to my lack of knowing what I believe is French, but I loved the pictures!

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Craig Fisher Camaro Marlboro T/A 1967


Can't say I have ever seen pictures of Marlboro looking like that. I think that based on the letters between the STP logos on top of the hill (CDR) and what look like 55 gallon drums alongside what appears to be a racing surface, that the venue is actually Continental Divide Raceway in Colorado


#54 carpenterdesign

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 13:37

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Transam 1971 Jerry Thompson Mustang

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transam 1970 George Follmer Mustang

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transam 1970 Vic Elford Chaparral Camaro

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 20:22

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#56 carpenterdesign

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 13:56

Hello fellow enthusiasts. I just joined this great yahoo group titled Marlboro_Raceway · Marlboro Motor Raceway

http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Marlboro_Raceway/

It has a lot of photos and even a few of the Trans-Am series. Not all the photos are from Marlboro, but they are all high resolution! Click the (Original tab) located above the pictures to see them at full size. You will not be disappointed.

Here are a few choice images to wet your whistle.

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Start of the 1966 Marlboro Trans Am, 1st of a sequence of 4. Photo by Pete Luongo, the master. Photo uploaded for use on Trans-Am memories blog. originally shown at yahoo group Marlboro_Raceway
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Start of the 1966 Trans Am, 2nd of a sequence of 4. Photo by Pete Luongo, the master. Photo uploaded for use on Trans-Am memories blog. originally shown at yahoo group Marlboro_Raceway
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Start of the 1966 Trans Am, 3rd of a sequence of 4. Photo by Pete Luongo, the master. Photo uploaded for use on Trans-Am memories blog. originally shown at yahoo group Marlboro_Raceway
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Start of the 1966 Trans Am, 3rd of a sequence of 4. Photo by Pete Luongo, the master. Photo uploaded for use on Trans-Am memories blog. originally shown at yahoo group Marlboro_Raceway

RESULTS of “The Great Race” Marlboro 12-Hour Trans-American Sedan Championship, August 14, 1966, at Marlboro Park
Speedway, Upper Marlboro, Md. Sanctioned by the Sports Car Club of America, Conducted by the Washington Region.
688.5 miles; 405 laps; elapsed time 12 hours. Winners speed 57.375 mph; victory margin 4 laps.


Pos. Driver Car Laps Class Pts Prize $

1 Bob Tullius, Falls Church, Va ......................... Dodge Dart 405 O-1 9 1250
Tony Adamowitz, Falls Church, Va
2 Scott Harvey, Detroit, Mich .......................... Barracuda 401 O-2 6 800
Chas. Rainville, N. Scituate, R.I.
3 Bruce Jennings, Towson, Md ......................... Barracuda 400 O-3 450
Les Netherton, Pasadena, Md
4 Chas. Krueger, Leicester, NY ........................ Dodge Dart 397 O-4
Hal Keck, Hellertown, Pa
5 Harry Theodorocopulos, NYC ...................... Alfa Romeo GTA 390 U-1 9 750
Sam Posey, Sharon, CT
6 Sir John Whitmaor, England ......................... Cortina Lotus 389 U-2 6 500
Frank Gardner, Byfleet, Australia
7 Paul Richards, Poughkeepsie, NY ................. Alfa Romeo GTA 382 U-3 250
George Alderman, Wilmington, Del
8 Noel Armstrong, El Paso, Tex ...................... Alfa Romeo GTA 382 U-4
Ron Hunter, Boulder, Colo
Bill Steele, Houston, Tx
9 Bob Johnson, Columbus, Oh .......................... Mustang 379 O-5 2
Don Sesslar, Lancaster, Oh
Tom Yeager, Marion, Oh
10 Howard Hanna, Newtown Sq., Pa .................. Alfa Romeo GTA 377 U-5
Howard Brown, Malvern, Pa
11 Ray Cuomo, New York, NY .......................... Fiat Abarth 375 U-6 1 250
Craig Fisher, Hopewell Junction, NY
12 C. Cunningham, Brunswick, Me .................... Volvo 122S 370 U-7
Gene Hobbs, Arlington, Va
Bob Mouat, Baltimore, Md
13 Alan Moffat, Melbourne, Australia ............... Cortina Lotus 365 U-8
Ray Parsons, Sidney, Australia
14 Clyde Billing, N. Brunswick, Me ................... Saab 96 363 U-9 150
Hal Mayforth, N. Brunswick, Me
15 Jim Suter, Kensington, Md ............................. Mustang 358 O-6
Dick Thompson, Wash., DC
Ed Lowther, McMurray, Pa
16 Don Peterson, Wash., DC .............................. NSU 352 U-10 100
Ralph Steele, Cambrills, Md
17 Jim McDaniel, Arlington, Va ......................... VW 1203 350 U-11 250
John Moore, Arlington, VA
18 Victor Haji, Phila., Pa ..................................... Saab 96 350 U-12
Chris Custer, Brunswick, Md
19 Glen Sullivan, Arlington, Va ........................... VW 1300 349 U-13 150
John Kelly, Wash., DC
20 Sam Perry, Richmond, Va ............................... Saab 96 341 U-14
Craige Pelouze, Richmond, Va
21 Jaacques Duval, Montreal, Que ...................... Renault Gordini 338 U-15 100
Peter Roberts, Montreal, Que
22 Geo. Hodgdon, Pittsburgh, Pa ....................... Saab 96 323 U-16
Dan Torpy, Adelphi, Md
23 Tony Delorenzo, NYC ................................... Corvair 320 O-7
Don Eichstadt, Detroit, Mich
24 Monty Winkler, Wash., DC .......................... Alfa Romeo GTA 300 U-17
Pete Van der Vate, Vienna, Va
25 Dick Stearns, NYC .......................................... NSU 273 U-18
Dick Walsh, White Plains, NY
26 Spurgeon May, Jackson, Miss ........................ Corvair 255 O-8
Donna Mae Mims, Pittsburgh, Pa
27 Cpt. Ken Sellers, Charleston, S.C. ................. Renault Gordini 198 U-19
R. M. Mercer, Charleston, S.C.

DID NOT FINISH
28 Dick Bouter, Charlottesville, Va ................... Austin Cooper S 349 U-20
Jim Murphy, Falls Church, Va
29 Arthur Mollin, Great Neck, NY .................... Volvo122S 284 U-21
Art Riley, Franklin Sq., NY
Bob Grossman, W. Nyack, NY
30 Tom Van Hoozier, Knoxville, Tenn ............. Renault Gordini 173 U-22
Rasy Fezell, Oak Ridge, Tenn
Jack Gordon, Rockaway, NJ
31 Al Ackerly, Memphis, Tenn .......................... Fiat Abarth 169 U-23
W. B. Burrow, Memphis, Tenn
32 Joe Hauser, Ft. Meade, Md ............................. Ford Anglia 153 U-24
Dick Scarborough, Bryn Mawr, Pa
Geo. Franklin, Arlington, Va
33 John Sambrook, Montreal, Que .................... Renault Gordini 136 U-25
Jacques Duval, Montreal, Que
34 Hubert Hahne, W. Germany .......................... Cortina Lotus 105 U-26
Jacques Ickx, Belgium
35 Dave Perlman, NYC ....................................... Fiat Abarth 54 U-27
Jack Beebee, Durwood, Md
36 Peter Hutchinson, Birmingham, Ala ............. Barracuda 45 O-9
Alan Barker, Louisville, Ky

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 19:29

Hello fellow enthusiasts. I just joined this great yahoo group titled Marlboro_Raceway · Marlboro Motor Raceway

http://sports.groups...rlboro_Raceway/

It has a lot of photos and even a few of the Trans-Am series. Not all the photos are from Marlboro, but they are all high resolution! Click the (Original tab) located above the pictures to see them at full size. You will not be disappointed.


Hi, thanks for this link as it has lead me to the elusive second page of the 1966 Marlboro Trans Am Official result (edit) although now I see that it is almost the same as the one I have but I believe it to be actually from the following race. So where did your result list come from, particularly finishers 16 to 33. And if you have a copy of that official SCCA page can you share it with me please.

Ciao

Ken

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#58 carpenterdesign

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 22:16

Hi, thanks for this link as it has lead me to the elusive second page of the 1966 Marlboro Trans Am Official result (edit) although now I see that it is almost the same as the one I have but I believe it to be actually from the following race. So where did your result list come from, particularly finishers 16 to 33. And if you have a copy of that official SCCA page can you share it with me please.

Ciao

Ken


Hi Ken,
If you are interested, i can email you a pdf copy of the original race results. Please understand, they are a little hard to read since they hand typed, photocopies of the originals circa 1966-1972; inked in corrections and all. None the less, they are very informative and crucial when documenting a car!

What car are you researching? I may have some info on it. I have been researching my car and often stumble into images of other cars at the same races.

Thanks,

Clay

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Posted 14 February 2010 - 20:31

Hi Ken,
If you are interested, i can email you a pdf copy of the original race results. Please understand, they are a little hard to read since they hand typed, photocopies of the originals circa 1966-1972; inked in corrections and all. None the less, they are very informative and crucial when documenting a car!

What car are you researching? I may have some info on it. I have been researching my car and often stumble into images of other cars at the same races.

Thanks,

Clay



Hi Clay, yes I would like a PDF copy of just the Marlboro 1966 results. I have the rest including the Marlboro but missing page 2. I'll e-mail you.

I am interested in Alfas in the Trans Am. And while I do have lots of info and Pictures on my own Trans Am Alfa GTA, one never knows were and when news will arrive.

Did you see my post above about my Alfa GTA #42 next to a Volvo on the grid at VIR? She is Alfa Romeo RHD GTA Corsa s/n 752507, raced in 5 different T/A years, 33 T/A races, 7 wins in class, many 2nds and 3rds, raced at Sebring in 1966 and Riverside in 1972.

A couple of things I am looking for is some documented confirmation that Peter Schuster drove #25 at the Watkins Glen T/A in 1971 while Everett was on the #2 Wetson/Kwech GTV and interior pictures from 1972 and other years.

I have attached a photo record of her livery over the years and a recent paint grind on the RH Rocker panel revealed 18 coats of paint and primer, all of which agree with the know livery.

Thanks

Ken



Paul Richards and George Alderman drove RHD Alfa GTA 752507 #42 in 1966, (she was #32 only at Marlboro 1966)

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Gaston Andrey drove RHD Alfa GTA 752507 #25 in 1969, picture taken by Ken Lee at Mont Tremblant (#52 only at 1969 Bridgehamton)

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Gaston Andrey and Bert Everett Drove RHD Alfa GTA 752507 #25 to 4 wins in 1970 when Alfa won The T/A U-2 Championship

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Bert Everett drove RHD Alfa GTA 752507 #25 in 1971

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Bert Everett drove RHD Alfa GTA 752507 #25 in 1972

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 23:03

Hi Guys,

Great thread, lots go good info, thanks all for posting. Im looking for information & photos on a car that raced in the 1970 transam season for a couple of races in that season. I only have 2 photos of this car, See the photos below, it is Robert Hampton's 1968-69 Barracuda. I am wanting to build a model of this car. Does anyone have any further photos they can share? Any idea what colour the car was? Any help would be great. If you know any other 68-69 Barracudas that raced please post.

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Cheers Greg

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 00:49

I was wondering if anyone may have images of the Cougar that Allan Moffat drove in 1967 for Bud Moore. This is one of two images I can find of the car.

http://www.allanmoff...cars_cougar.htm

Thank You.

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 13:59

What about this one.

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cheers
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#63 carpenterdesign

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 14:51

The Vintage Racing League
Visit My Website

On my quest to find more images I came across this great group, joined their league and sorted through some 1233 pages of images. I am currently on page 527! Although the majority of them were taken only a week or so ago; a few stood out. Check out page 222-223, there are two images of this event that took place in Brookfield, Ohio circa late 1950s called "Field Trials." I have never heard of such a sport, but evidently these guys were into driving their cars balls fast around a field....WILD! But I digress. More important to our cause, there were some great period Trans/Am photos that surfaced.
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Mark Donohue (on belly) gives advice to Rusty Jowett on the Camaro set-up. I think this was taken at Lime Rock. Jowett's father has the Super 8 camera. by Patrick Hogan
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Rusty Jowett, the original driver, prepares to go out on the track. by Patrick Hogan
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Did this Camaro run a race or two in the Trans-Am? picture was posted by Bob Kennedy possibly his car? the caption was not clear

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#64 oldtransamdriver

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 20:33

Hi Guys,

Great thread, lots go good info, thanks all for posting. Im looking for information & photos on a car that raced in the 1970 transam season for a couple of races in that season. I only have 2 photos of this car, See the photos below, it is Robert Hampton's 1968-69 Barracuda. I am wanting to build a model of this car. Does anyone have any further photos they can share? Any idea what colour the car was? Any help would be great. If you know any other 68-69 Barracudas that raced please post.

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This must be the car driven by Gerald Robinson according to the results - Hampton was the owner?

Robert Barg

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#65 david5

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 07:34

What about this one.

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cheers
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Cheers, but thats one that I do have. Aussie Rick, your not inter on other forums as well by the way ?

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 10:08

I was wondering if anyone may have images of the Cougar that Allan Moffat drove in 1967 for Bud Moore. This is one of two images I can find of the car.

http://www.allanmoff...cars_cougar.htm

Thank You.




The Dave Freidman book "Transam ..The Pony Car Wars " has 2 or 3 of the Moffat Cougar

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 22:30

Hi Robert,

Yeah its all very confusing. Yes you are right though, it is in fact Gerald Robinson. He raced in Race 2(Lime Rock), Race 3(Bryar), Race 5(Bridgehampton) & Race 8(St Jovite) in this car. Where I got confused was Robert Hampton did race in the 1970 season in a barracuda as well but he raced a 65-66 Barracuda. Hamptons only race was at Race 11(Riverside) See page 209 of the Friedman Transam book if you have it. Photo not clear enough formodeling either.

Does anyone else have any further photos, now of either car?

This would must be the car driven by Gerald Robinson according to the results - Hampton was the owner?

Robert Barg



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Posted 28 February 2010 - 14:01



Yes I would like to know if anybody has entry lists of the Laguna Seca and Riverside 2.5 Trans Am Challenge races held in 1972. I can find the results, but I can not find these entry lists. Any help would be great. Also, does anybody have photos of the West Coast Datsun 510s that raced in these two races? :wave:

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Posted 28 February 2010 - 22:10

Vic Elford - Chevrolet Camaro
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Trans-Am Championship 1970 crash
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Thanks El Dougo.

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Posted 28 February 2010 - 23:28

I wasn't there, but that looks like the crash at St. Jovite in 69.

Robert Barg

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 05:19

Found these in Photobucket under ronzi_photos / All Albums / CDR Trans Am . ggnagy helped conclude that they were taken Continental Divide Raceway in Colorado. Enjoy!

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Vic Campbell Camaro
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Dick Thompson Shelby Mustang
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Roger Penske
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Penske Hernandez
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SCCA Trans Am race
Continental Divide Raceways, Castle Rock, CO
August 27, 1967
94 laps on 2.66 mile road course; 250.04 miles

Fin St Driver # Owner Car Laps Money Status Laps Led
1 2 Jerry Titus 17 Carroll Shelby Ford Mustang 94 1,250 running 82
2 Ed Leslie Mercury Cougar 94 450 running 2
3 1 Milt Minter
Ronnie Bucknum Ford Mustang 93 275 running 10
4 Dick Thompson Carroll Shelby Ford Mustang 93 200 running 0
5 Horst Kwech 3 Alfa Romeo 1600 GTA 90 750 running 0
6 Monty Winkler 6 Alfa Romeo 1600 GTA 90 450 running 0
7 Bert Everett Porsche 911 90 275 running 0
8 6 Mark Donohue Roger Penske Chevrolet Camaro 89 150 running 0
9 Fred Opert
Tony Adamowicz Porsche 911 89 200 running 0
10 Del Taylor
Jack Eiteljorg Alfa Romeo 1600 GTA 88 150 running 0
11 Bernd Leckow Porsche 911 86 110 running 0
12 Pete Dock
Jim Whelan Ford Mustang 6F07K319819 84 110 running 0
13 Ken Edwards
Robert Hindson BMC Cooper S 81 90 running 0
14 Dave Dooley
John McComb Ford Lotus Cortina 81 80 running 0
15 Noel Armstrong
Ron Hunter Alfa Romeo 1600 GTA 81 75 running 0
16 Vic Campbell
Bert Jones Chevrolet Camaro 80 90 running 0
17 Bill Steele Ford Mustang 71 80 did not finish 0
18 Peter Revson Mercury Cougar 49 75 did not finish 0
19 Bob Tullius Dodge Dart 33 70 did not finish 0
20 Keith Thomas
Brad Brooker Ford Mustang 31 0 did not finish 0
21 Vic Provenzano Alfa Romeo 24 70 did not finish 0
22 Dave Willemssen Volvo 122S 20 0 did not finish 0
23 Gary Gove Chevrolet Camaro 8 0 did not finish 0
24 Ron Grable Dodge Dart 0 disqualified 0


Time of race: 03:26:00
Average Speed: 72.827 MPH
Pole Speed: 126.4 seconds
Race Purse: $ 5,000

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 18:44

These are images I found on Photobucket under the profile name 1967z28's Profile. There are more photos on his page.

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Donohue 67 Marlboro pitstop Fisher in car
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Donohue 67 Sebring 4C Fisher
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Donohue 67 Kent 300
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Donohue 67 inside cock pit of 1st car
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Donohue 68 Sebring

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Yenko Bud Gates Camaro

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Kolb Camaro at Sebring tech

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Parnelli Jones Merury Cougar and Charlie Kolb's Camaro
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Sebring lap chart Kolb 22 1967
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Sebring March 30, 1967

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JG and Bud Moore Boss 1971 Road America

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 16:35

Great Photos! Does anyone have any of a '68 Camaro driven by Leigh Gardner at Donnybrooke and RA in 70 and 71..same car driven by Lynn Woodward (Donnybrooke) and Dave Steffens (RA) in 1972.

Thanks!

#74 carpenterdesign

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 05:31

Hi Pickle, These are a few images that my dad took at the 1970 Road America Trans-Am. I have a few of a red 1967 or 8 Camaro but they weren't clear enough to post.

RESULTS of the Road America Trans-Am race for the SCCA Trans-American Championship held at Road America, Elkhart Lake,
Wisconsin, July 19, 1970.
Event sanctioned by the Sports Car Club of America, Inc., promoted by Road America, Inc., organized by the Chicago Region (SCCA)
and listed by the FIA as a national/open
Race on 4.0 mile circuit for SCCA Sedan over-2-liter cars for overall position.
Race length: 50 laps (200 miles), 2 hours, 10 minutes, 39.8 seconds.
Winners average speed 91.839 mph. Winner’s margin of victory: 58 seconds.
Fastest lap: (Tie) Mark Donohue and Parnelli Jones, 2:33.0 (94.118 mph), Record.

Pos. Driver Car Laps/secs. behind Pts Prize $

1 Mark Donohue............................................. Javelin 9 $3,500
2 Swede Savage................................................ Barracuda :58 6 2,500
3 Sam Posey.................................................... Challenger :90 4 2,000
4 Jim Hall......................................................... Camaro :124 3 1,800
5 Parnelli Jones................................................ Mustang :131 2 1,500
6 Milt Minter.................................................. Camaro :144 1,400
7 Roy Woods................................................... Camaro 1L125 1,200
8 Tony DeLorenzo.......................................... Camaro 1L156 1,000
9 Warren Agor.................................................. Camaro 2L98 800
10 Gordon Dewar.............................................. Camaro 2L98 700
11 Vince Gimondo............................................. Camaro 3L06 600
12 Warren Tope................................................. Mustang Boss 302 3L16 500
13 Maurice Carter.............................................. Camaro 3L41 400
14 Warren Fairbanks.......................................... Camaro 3L131 350
15 Allen Hewitt................................................. Camaro 5L101 300
16 Larry Bock.................................................... Camaro 5L162 250
17 Ed Hinchliff.................................................. Mustang Boss 6L21 200
18 Leith Gardner................................................ Camaro 6L75 150
19 Dan Furey..................................................... Mustang Boss 7L18 150
20 Bob Biernerth............................................... Camaro 7L26 100
21 Gerald Thompson......................................... Camaro 7L67 50
22 Jim Corwin................................................... Camaro 12L74 50
23 Dan Spiegel................................................... Chev II Nova 13L58 50
24 John Elliott ................................................... Camaro 13L68 50
25 Levester Lewis.............................................. Camaro 19L01 50
DID NOT FINISH Laps Completed
26 Bob Fryer ..................................................... Camaro 38 50
27 Ted Roberta.................................................. Javelin 26 50
28 Allan LaBrush............................................... Camaro 26 50
29 Ed Leslie....................................................... Camaro 25 blown engine 50
30 Peter Schwartzott......................................... Camaro 22
31 Gene Harrington........................................... Camaro 18
32 Robert Macintyre......................................... Camaro 17
33 Peter Revson................................................. Javelin 13 drive shaft
34 Duane Winkle............................................... Camaro 2
35 George Follmer ............................................. Mustang 0
DISQUALIFIED
Jerry Lagod................................................... Camaro refueling



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#75 Bob Riebe

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 16:03

Hi Pickle, These are a few images that my dad took at the 1970 Road America Trans-Am. I have a few of a red 1967 or 8 Camaro but they weren't clear enough to post.

Damn old memories.
It would appear that at some point in that race, your father and I could have been standing elbow to elbow.


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Posted 10 March 2010 - 06:21

In 70-71 my car was white blue stripes #67, it was owned by Don Winters and he hired Leigh Gardner to drive it in the TA races. Other drivers "rented" the car in the LOL region races. In '72 Don sold the car, it was run by Dave Steffens under J&R Racing, painted white/blue/red hood and roof and had #64. Dick Kantrud, Howie Fairbanks and Carl Schaffer drove it '72-'74 TA races. I have a couple photos that I'll try to put up but would really like to see more from 70-71 if they are out there.

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 06:29

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#78 carpenterdesign

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 23:54

In 70-71 my car was white blue stripes #67, it was owned by Don Winters and he hired Leigh Gardner to drive it in the TA races. Other drivers "rented" the car in the LOL region races. In '72 Don sold the car, it was run by Dave Steffens under J&R Racing, painted white/blue/red hood and roof and had #64. Dick Kantrud, Howie Fairbanks and Carl Schaffer drove it '72-'74 TA races. I have a couple photos that I'll try to put up but would really like to see more from 70-71 if they are out there.


I know this is probably one of the pictures you have found, but for the rest of the people playing along I thought I would add this one which I found on www.racingsportscars.com .

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August 19, 1973 Trans-Am Edmonton: Dick Kantrud (USA) J. B. Racing (USA) Photo by Fred Young

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 00:57

[quote name='carpenterdesign' date='Mar 10 2010, 15:54' post='4204484']
I know this is probably one of the pictures you have found, but for the rest of the people playing along I thought I would add this one which I found on www.racingsportscars.com .

Thanks..I have seen that one. I'd love to find some early photo's when it was still #67...before Don Winters sold it after the '72 season and it was repainted and modified to keep up with the TA rule changes in '73-'74.

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#80 eldougo

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 05:08

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These are images I found on Photobucket under the profile name 1967z28's Profile. There are more photos on his page.

Donohue 67 Kent 300
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 12:47

This is a most superb thread and hopefully some more people will join in with even more super photographs. Thanks to all who are participating.

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Posted 15 March 2010 - 19:36

Photo Bucket, you have done it again! While browsing that other guy's images I found this guy's. Click the link...it is well worth it. http://s46.photobuck...rrent=68ta1.jpg

These were taken at Lime Rock 1968


Hi, great thread. Those are my photos from the 68 LRP Trans Am, glad to see them posted where they can do some good. I've run across some old programs and found this summary of the 1971 Trans Am race in the program for that year's SCCA Nationals.

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I still vividly remember standing on the infield hill totally soaked while watching Tullius' amazing performance that day in the Pontiac. I owned a white TR-6 at the time and was a big Bob Tullius/Group 44 fan.

I've got several T/A programs from that era and was considering scanning them into .pdf form for posting on my website. Would there be any interest?


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Posted 16 March 2010 - 05:15

I've got several T/A programs from that era and was considering scanning them into .pdf form for posting on my website. Would there be any interest?


Yes...lots!

Vince H.


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Posted 16 March 2010 - 17:44

I am going to have to agree with Vince; I would love to see more!


Here are a couple interesting images i found at the newly revamped http://www.barcboys.com site. They have a great collection of photos. These two were found in the Marlboro section.

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Marlboro Trans-Am Race: Aussie Allan Moffat hands over to Milt Minter
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67 Trans-Am and Bruce Jennings shows his local knowledge edging Horst Kwech's Alfa



#85 grumpyfish

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 22:30

Here's one way of bringing some of these brilliant cars back to life.

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 03:37

Here's a link to the program for the 1970 Schaefer Trans Am at Lime Rock park:

LRP 1970 Trans Am

Click on the download arrow at the bottom of the web page to open or download. I included all pages, including the ads and the mimeo'd entry list from race day. Check out the questions in the "Third Annual Grand Prix Contest". They really expected you to do some digging for answers!

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 04:25

Just found a great Film done by Universal Studios circa 1971. Shows A LOT of action. There is even a clip that has Robert Barg's Camaro! The film could do without the Billy Jack type music but is otherwise very well done. Here are a few screen grabs to wet your appetite.
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Posted 17 March 2010 - 18:08

Thanks for the link to the film.

Here's a link to the program for the 1972 Watkins Glen Trans Am/Formula 5000 weekend:

Watkins Glen Trans Am 1972

Included is the entire program with entry list and my ticket for Fri, Sat and Sun ($12 for 3 days of racing and I think camping at the track was another $1 a day :lol: )

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 23:55

There will be a U2L and U2.5L Trans-Am race at the Monterey Motorsports Reunion in August. The race is on Saturday right after lunch. This will be the first time these cars have had their own event at Monterey and the entries are limited to U2L cars with Trans-Am history. There are some significant U2L cars that will be racing again for the first time since the era. Two cars not seen since the era, the Winkler/Van der Vate Alfa GTA from 1966, and the Fred Baker 911 will be there.

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 03:55

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Hi 'grumpyfish',

I recognize that car #187! Who made the model? That photo with that #187 is from Canadian club racing at either Harewood Acres or Mosport - either a Canadian Touring Car series race or maybe the sedan support race for the Mosport Can-Am.

Only 2 T/A races entered that year in that colour - Mid Ohio T/A with myself and co-driver Dick Hoffman, and later the Riverside T/A with GM racer/engineer Hoffman. Hoffman got some money from Ford to do some camera work for a Ford racing film and I have a photo of a large movie type camera mounted on a plate, rt. front corner of roof. Dick qualified and ran the race - finished 20th I think. He had already been racing a 67 camaro with Dave Horchler (H & H Racing) and was a great help setting up our car (we didn't know much).

Robert Barg

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 04:10

There will be a U2L and U2.5L Trans-Am race at the Monterey Motorsports Reunion in August. The race is on Saturday right after lunch. This will be the first time these cars have had their own event at Monterey and the entries are limited to U2L cars with Trans-Am history. There are some significant U2L cars that will be racing again for the first time since the era. Two cars not seen since the era, the Winkler/Van der Vate Alfa GTA from 1966, and the Fred Baker 911 will be there.


Hi Bob,

I just got back from the VARA & Historic Champ/Indy car event at Auto Club Speedway March 5-7 in Fontana - managed to hitch a ride down and back with Eric Haga from Seattle and his Lola T 190. Was very surprised to see five 510's, seven BMW 2002s, and 2 GTVs - thought I was at an under 2 litre or 2.5 T/A race! They were all well prepared. Interestingly, VARA allows these cars to run C sedan with limted mods and a 2 bl carb - had not seen this before. Had a great time tramping around in the paddock - sure is a fancy race track - nice garages etc. Also really enjoyed some of the old Indy cars and met Tom McGriff of "Mac Miller's garage" (see website) who at one time worked on the BFG "Tirebirds" in 71 with owner Terry Godsall and driver Larry Dent.

Just might head down to Monterey again this year for those T/A cars!

Robert Barg


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Posted 18 March 2010 - 07:07

Hi, great thread. Those are my photos from the 68 LRP Trans Am, glad to see them posted where they can do some good. I've run across some old programs and found this summary of the 1971 Trans Am race in the program for that year's SCCA Nationals.

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I still vividly remember standing on the infield hill totally soaked while watching Tullius' amazing performance that day in the Pontiac. I owned a white TR-6 at the time and was a big Bob Tullius/Group 44 fan.

I've got several T/A programs from that era and was considering scanning them into .pdf form for posting on my website. Would there be any interest?



Wow! Does this race report ever bring back some memories. This was our first ever visit to Lime Rock, and our first time out that year. We arrived with our "all-purpose" 3:73 rear diff ratio (useless at Lime Rock - a 4:56 or 4:88 was needed) and our almost stock 302 of about 375 hp, but nevertheless managed to qualify 24th. For us it was only important to get on the grid as the races were over 2 hrs. long. At some tracks the promoters would only take 30 or 33 cars, and often some 40+ cars would show up to qualify. We had no special qualifying tires or motors - qualifying was usually done on the left over tires from the last race.

Not long after the start of the race I came down the front straight and got "moved over" and found myself spinning down the escape road at the end of the straight. I managed to stay on the pavement and rejoined the race. This happened twice more during the race and I'm sure the car owner Al Richards was having a panic attack each time it happened.

We survived to the end and managed a 9th place finish - very good for us, almost like a podium - won $1000. Ironically, while returning to the paddock, Peter Gregg managed to cave in the passenger door, because he wasn't looking where he was driving.

During the race, while heading up the back straight in the rain, I felt 2 distinct thumps at the back of my car - couldn't see a thing out the rear window, and thought "oh God, some idiot is going to run me off the road!". I held my line, and the next thing I know, Mr. Donohue passes me on the right and gives a nod, as if to say "thanks for holding your line and letting me by". He was just letting me know he was there!

Later in the paddock, I looked at the front of his Javelin and there was not a mark anywhere on the front of his car. - amazing!

I would return there in 73 with the proper rear diff ratio in the ex Alfie Ruys de Perez 69 camaro, but we were outgunned with our little 302 which blew up about half way thru the race.

It is a neat part of the world and I managed a trip back there a few years ago for the Labour Day vintage wknd when the real T/A cars paid a visit.


Robert Barg.

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 07:37

It looks like Mustangs & Minilites and MUD that weekend Robert.Very wet indeed.

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 15:26

Hi Robert, I made the Camaro, painting slot cars is a hobby. What a bonus to be in touch with a great driver. Hope I haven't infringed anyones copyright. I have painted a few of these but the donor cars are getting more difficult to get. I did the number 16 car first but I got the colour too dark and it wasn't right. If I can get another chassis I will do it again.

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 18:17

[quote name='grumpyfish' date='Mar 18 2010, 15:26' post='4228468']
Hi Robert, I made the Camaro, painting slot cars is a hobby. What a bonus to be in touch with a great driver. Hope I haven't infringed anyones copyright. I have painted a few of these but the donor cars are getting more difficult to get. I did the number 16 car first but I got the colour too dark and it wasn't right. If I can get another chassis I will do it again.

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Hi Chris,

Never mind that "great driver" stuff! I was just lucky enough to get a chance to run with the "Big Dogs". That # 16 is our Sebring # in the 69 12 hr, assigned to us by the organizers after accepting our entry. It happened to be the same number that Donohue used in 68. His camaro from 68 was used on the 69 poster - an artist's painting. I have a copy of the poster.

cheers,

Robert




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Posted 28 March 2010 - 03:47

hi all - i need some assistance please - and as it relates to trans am car i thought i would post here - i may also start a seperate thread with the request

i am trying to correclty nodel a '67 mustang notchback as the team shelby titus car - i know it is light yellow with black accents but i am trying to determine the correct yellow that would have been used??

i have been told it may have been '67 ford springtime yellow - but that is a very pale yellow and some have debated the color on the shelby cars was a bit more vibrant

any suggestions on how to confirm what the actual and correct color would have been would be very very much appreciated

thanks very much in advance

regards, Ron

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Posted 28 March 2010 - 04:56

and to add to my confusion - i have also read a number of sources stating a 'gawdawful yellow' was used in '67 by terlingua racing team - but it looks waay too vibrant a yellow in my opinion !?!

help please and thanks
much appreciated - Ron

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Posted 28 March 2010 - 15:44

I doubt that this will settle anything, but this photo was taken at the Continental Divide Trans Am in 1967. It is of the Titus/Terlingua Mustang engine. The color of the body is totally washed out to white, so if the car was actually yellow, it was not a very yellow yellow, more of a pastel probably. I don't recall what the color was like.
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Posted 28 March 2010 - 19:42

The actual "Gawdawful Yellow" on Titus' Terlingua Racing Team Mustang was a production Corvette color of the time. I've forgotten the name, but this is documented by participants who knew and know, in a thread or two on TeamShelby.com's forums.

Per Shelby's Minion ...

The Terlingua Story ...

PS: The last model on this page was to have been released in March:
1967 Terlingua Mustang Model

Looks as if it's a pre-order item, and it seems authentic as to appearance:
eBaY Terlingua Mustang

Edited by Frank S, 28 March 2010 - 19:52.


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Posted 28 March 2010 - 21:59

Does anyone keep a record of these colours. I've seen the Titus car on two different photo's and the yellow looks totally different on both.

I had a stab at the Mustang fastback and used Ford Daytona Yellow. But the picture I followed might have been taken in bright sunlight.

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