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#1 OfficeLinebacker

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 17:10

http://espn.go.com/s...i...&listId=486

Good poll. Only one NASCAR driver in there (Hornish is there but not for his performance in NASCAR). Looks like it's pretty much one driver from each discipline. I guess the Schumacher mystique is prevailing.

For the record I have Rossi first. Total domination of a very competitive series.

Note if it were "Driver of the period from 1994 to 2004" then Schumacher would win hands down.

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#2 FBJim

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 17:18

Bernd Schneider? Was someone really desperate to fill the last spot on the board, or something?

#3 maccaFTW

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 17:25

My rankings:

Easily the top-3

M. Schumacher
Rossi
Loeb

Unquestionably the three greatest racing drivers in the world. They could be ranked in any order; I had it in this one.

Next 3:

Kristensen
Schneider
Johnson

Three guys who have been dominant in competitive series. Johnson gets the last spot in this group because his dominance of NASCAR is mainly due to his crew chief (Knaus), as there are surely more talented drivers than him.

Next 2:

Bourdais
Hornish

These two dominated AOW, but have thus far gotten creamed in superior series against superior competition.

Last:

T. Schumacher

Sorry, but drag racing requires next to no talent.

#4 SAFC09

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 17:26

Bernd Schneider? Was someone really desperate to fill the last spot on the board, or something?


Wasn't he a German International footy player

#5 The Ragged Edge

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 17:29

The worst poll in the last 10 years. :down: Bourdais? :rotfl:

#6 salamin

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 17:30

what a joke :rotfl:

#7 nordschleife

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 17:33



A poll that asks you to rank various racing series according to your personal preference would be identical to whatever each individual submitted here.

The overall poll results depend on the makeup of ESPN's on-line audience. Wild guess - "Hee-haw!"



#8 Hairpin

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 17:33

Sorry, but drag racing requires next to no talent.

:lol:
Some say that about NASCAR as well. Of course it requires talent. If you are going to do it well.

My top three is

1. Rossi
2. Loeb
(These two are uncontested)
3. Schumi

I guess Jimmy Johnson is fourth, but rest I can not rank.

Rossi and Loeb has been outstanding.

#9 Jodum5

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 17:35

I took under consideration the level of competition between cars and ability for teammates to compete on same terms.

1.Valentino Rossi (Handily beat teammates and several big budget bikes)
2.Michael Schumacher (contractual #1)
3.Jimmie Johnson (still think MS is better)
4.Sebastien Loeb (Who seriously could compete with his car?)
5.Tom Kristensen (Great car, but victories are shared with other drivers)


#10 P123

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 17:47

Top 5:

1.Loeb
2.Rossi
3.Schumacher
4.Johnson
5.Kristensen



#11 FBJim

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 17:48

1. M. Schumacher
2. Rossi
3. Loeb
4. Kristensen
5. Johnson
6. T. Schumacher

#12 Risil

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 17:58

This poll needs a lot more Montoya.

Edited by Risil, 08 January 2010 - 18:00.


#13 domhnall

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 18:01

Top 5:

1.Loeb
2.Rossi
3.Schumacher
4.Johnson
5.Kristensen


Same here :up:

#14 Dispenser89

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 18:02

1. Rossi
2. Kristensen
3. Loeb
4. Schumi
5. Johnson
6. Hornish Jr
7. Bourdais
8. Schneider
9. Schumacher

#15 mkay

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 18:04

Where is Vettel?

#16 Hairpin

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 18:12

Where is Vettel?

Maybe next decade?

#17 monza2001

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 18:14

1º Rossi
2º Schumi
3º Loeb
4º Johnson
5º Kristensen

#18 OfficeLinebacker

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 18:21

Where is Vettel?

If you consider the choices carefully you'll see there is only one representative driver per series. Schumacher is the F1 representative.

#19 OfficeLinebacker

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 18:23

1. Rossi
2. Kristensen
3. Loeb
4. Schumi
5. Johnson
6. Hornish Jr
7. Bourdais
8. Schneider
9. Schumacher

Wow, dissing the Schumacher family can get you into trouble with Unser Ding you know.

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#20 David M. Kane

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 18:23

WWII is over "we Yanks" preferred to be just called greedy self-centered stupid sods these days. :kiss:

#21 McLaren

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 18:26

1.Loeb
2.Rossi
3.Schumacher
4.Kristensen
5-9. Who cares

#22 jee

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 18:27

Wasn't he a German International footy player


They actually took a picture of the football player :lol:
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Now, this is the race driver:
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#23 McLaren

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 18:30

They actually took a picture of the football player :lol:
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Now, this is the race driver:
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Just goes to show how much they care about 5-9 :cool:

#24 jeze

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 19:10

Tony Schumacher... drag racer? Let me laugh, come on :rotfl:

#25 Lazy Prodigy

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 19:30

Rossi 1!

#26 Sausage

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 19:44

Sorry but a poll wich includes Drag, Nascar and F1 all in one? No. Just no

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 20:32

My own is this:-
10. Jason Crump
9. Colin McRae
8. Danica Patrick
7. Tom Kristensen
6. Ricky Carmichael
5. Lewis Hamilton
4. Sebastien Loeb
3. Michael Schumacher
2. Valentino Rossi
1. ALEX ZANARDI

(however I now think I should have included Jimmie Johnson on the list)

But my ESPN one would be:-
9. Sebastien Bourdais
8. Sam Hornish Jr.
7. Bernd Schneider
6. Tony Schumacher
5. Jimmie Johnson
4. Tom Kristensen
3. Sebastien Loeb
2. Michael Schumacher
1. Valentino Rossi

(considering it's ESPN, why no Nicky Hayden?)

Edited by THE "driverider", 08 January 2010 - 20:37.


#28 THE "driverider"

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 20:34

Sorry but a poll wich includes Drag, Nascar and F1 all in one? No. Just no

Why not?

Edited by THE "driverider", 08 January 2010 - 20:34.


#29 FBJim

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 20:42

Why not?

Because some people seem to think drag racing is literally consists of pushing a gas pedal down and nothing else, probably

#30 THE "driverider"

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 20:44

Because some people seem to think drag racing is literally consists of pushing a gas pedal down and nothing else, probably

But it's not. There is keeping the car/bike in a straight line, launching at the precise moment, having the physical capability of coping with the speeds and g-forces of the vehicle and risking your life as you only have one lane and little runoff.

#31 Risil

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 22:58

My own is this:-
10. Jason Crump
9. Colin McRae
8. Danica Patrick
7. Tom Kristensen
6. Ricky Carmichael
5. Lewis Hamilton
4. Sebastien Loeb
3. Michael Schumacher
2. Valentino Rossi
1. ALEX ZANARDI


:up: :up: Ricky Carmichael. Given the extensive (well, existent) Motocross coverage Speed has, I'm surprised he wasn't nominated. Especially considering how he's one of the greatest athletes of the decade, full stop.

Edited by Risil, 08 January 2010 - 22:58.


#32 r4mses

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Posted 09 January 2010 - 00:24

hahaha, that pic of bernd schneider... :lol: :rotfl:

#33 JForce

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Posted 09 January 2010 - 01:25

Scott Dixon beats Bourdais in any AOW comparison, just read the Autosport.com article naming him best US Single Seat racer:
http://www.autosport...cle.php/id/2562

#34 aditya-now

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Posted 09 January 2010 - 02:02

http://espn.go.com/s...i...&listId=486

Good poll. Only one NASCAR driver in there (Hornish is there but not for his performance in NASCAR). Looks like it's pretty much one driver from each discipline. I guess the Schumacher mystique is prevailing.

For the record I have Rossi first. Total domination of a very competitive series.

Note if it were "Driver of the period from 1994 to 2004" then Schumacher would win hands down.


My vote:

1.Michael Schumacher
2.Valentino Rossi
3.Sebastien Loeb
4.Sam Hornish Jr.
5.Sebastien Bourdais
6.Tom Kristensen
7.Jimmie Johnson
8.Bernd Schneider
9.Tony Schumacher













#35 Kenaltgr

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Posted 09 January 2010 - 03:09

Rossi easily, more successful than Schuamcher without the cheating.

#36 F1 Tor.

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Posted 09 January 2010 - 04:04

Rossi easily, more successful than Schuamcher without the cheating.


yawn.

#37 Spunout

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Posted 09 January 2010 - 09:29

http://espn.go.com/s...i...&listId=486

Good poll. Only one NASCAR driver in there (Hornish is there but not for his performance in NASCAR). Looks like it's pretty much one driver from each discipline. I guess the Schumacher mystique is prevailing.


Surprising indeed. Since it´s a poll by US site, you´d expect 5 guys from NASCAR, one from Trucks, one from ARCA, two good ol´ boys from local dirt tracks...and maybe Schumi, on last place.


#38 robracer

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Posted 09 January 2010 - 09:31

1. Valentino Rossi














2. Sebastien Loeb



3. Michael Schumacher

























Everyone else

Edited by robracer, 09 January 2010 - 09:32.


#39 jeze

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Posted 09 January 2010 - 10:39

Rossi easily, more successful than Schuamcher without the cheating.


Erm... Jerez 2005?



Dirty play...

Edited by jeze, 09 January 2010 - 10:40.


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#40 Risil

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Posted 09 January 2010 - 12:46

Erm... Jerez 2005?



Dirty play...


Not the same, IMO. He was trying to get past, rather than illegally impeding a much faster competitor. This is about on a level with Emmo and Al Unser, jr at the Indy 500, or more or less any move made by Danny Sullivan. Or maybe Freddie Spencer vs. Kenny Roberts at Anderstorp in 1983, not that probably anyone on this board has actually seen that incident...

It was no Biaggi elbow, that's for certain...

#41 carlt

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Posted 09 January 2010 - 19:38

Andy Priaulx surely he needs to be in there ?!

#42 THE "driverider"

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Posted 09 January 2010 - 19:45

:up: :up: Ricky Carmichael. Given the extensive (well, existent) Motocross coverage Speed has, I'm surprised he wasn't nominated. Especially considering how he's one of the greatest athletes of the decade, full stop.

:up: yes he is without a doubt one of greatest athletes in the world, plus he hasn't been too bad in his NASCAR outings. :up:

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 01:03

Not the same, IMO. He was trying to get past, rather than illegally impeding a much faster competitor. This is about on a level with Emmo and Al Unser, jr at the Indy 500, or more or less any move made by Danny Sullivan. Or maybe Freddie Spencer vs. Kenny Roberts at Anderstorp in 1983, not that probably anyone on this board has actually seen that incident...

It was no Biaggi elbow, that's for certain...

:up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :rotfl:

#44 Muz Bee

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 04:14

Ricky Carmichael (and MX, SX) a dreadful omission and a huge talent/all round package (GOAT).

Didn't Scott Dixon eclipse Hornish's win record last year? And in less starts? Oh well Dixie is probably penalised by being spread across CART and IRL as well as not being flamboyant out of the car.

Can't see a lot of point in trying to rank apples v bananas v oranges v melons!!! Like trying to compare Fangio and Senna on another axis.

#45 nordschleife

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 05:28


Are you suggesting that what Tony Schumacher does is somehow dissimilar to what Sebastian Loeb does? Preposterous! :lol:


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Posted 10 January 2010 - 10:48

:up: :up: Ricky Carmichael. Given the extensive (well, existent) Motocross coverage Speed has, I'm surprised he wasn't nominated. Especially considering how he's one of the greatest athletes of the decade, full stop.


Agreed.

For those who don't know Ricky one year won every single race of the series, thats 22 races folks in a row in first place in one of the worlds most competitive series, American outdoor motocross.

You're not only racing others but the track and conditions as well and that feat was just incredible putting aside his other incredible history/results.

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#47 THE "driverider"

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 14:19

Agreed.

For those who don't know Ricky one year won every single race of the series, thats 22 races folks in a row in first place in one of the worlds most competitive series, American outdoor motocross.

You're not only racing others but the track and conditions as well and that feat was just incredible putting aside his other incredible history/results.

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Yep, that ws in 24 after coming back from a knee injury and it was actually a perfect 24/24.

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 14:46

Sorry, 24 races and thats of course 2 heats per event which makes things even harder as other riders get the chance to make changes/improvements to their bikes for the 2nd heat.

Edited by cheapracer, 10 January 2010 - 14:52.


#49 ViMaMo

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 15:38

Valentino Rossi
Michael Schumacher

#50 Jackmancer

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 18:22

Rossi isn´t even a driver.

And yes, agree this list is bad. But it´s American and their perception of motorsport is just as bad. T

Edited by Jackmancer, 10 January 2010 - 18:23.