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#1 Monad

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 10:42

Ok i was reading Alonso's interview and i once again heard the speech i heard from everyone that signs with Ferrari. How they want to end there careers there, it's all one big family and how it's the best EVER! and they feel the history of the team and all that.

Now no one expects someone who gets in to his new team to say bad words, off course his gonna say good things but this Ferrari talk is so similar that am wondering if they are given strict instruction to make a reference exactly about those things in there first interviews.

Is it some policy to keep that "we are one big family" and "you can see Enzo's ghost in the hallway" image going? I mean the guy just got his red T-shirt how the hell does he know he wants to stay there forever. We heard all that from many drivers who left saying opposite things afterwards. Isn't it enough to just say that it looks like a great team and they know there job very well?

Are they instructed?

Edited by Monad, 15 January 2010 - 10:44.


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#2 potmotr

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 10:49

Schumacher said Ferrari would be his last team, it wasn't.

Alonso said McLaren would be his last team, it wasn't.

Raikkonen said Ferrari would be his last team, it probably was.

What does this tell us? That when people sign onto a big multi-year contract they are extremely optimistic.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 10:52

I think you need to seperate the eras, Enzo Ferrari was apparently a difficult man if you got on his wrong side.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 10:54

I think you need to seperate the eras, Enzo Ferrari was apparently a difficult man if you got on his wrong side.


Just ask Rene Arnoux.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 10:55

It's certainly a common theme isn't it... Schumacher and Raikkonen both said it. It would almost be a shame that if, of the two, the only one that was proven correct was the guy that got paid off to leave. Saying it in your first appearance in the team colours seems a bit premature too, but maybe the Italian press would start sharpening their pencils very quickly if you don't seem committed enough!

I suppose that Lewis has paraphrased it at McLaren too, during 2008 anyway, but I think it was qualified a bit and surely taken with a pinch of salt from someone that was only in their second season.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 10:55

Schumacher said Ferrari would be his last team, it wasn't.

To be fair I don't think MS would ever have considered a switch to another team if Ferrari had a seat for him in 2010.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 10:59

To be fair I don't think MS would ever have considered a switch to another team if Ferrari had a seat for him in 2010.


True enough, but it shows that these drivers are professionals.

Their own desire for success will always override dedication to one brand.

I can't imagine Schumacher saying: "No, I can't drive at Mercedes out of love for Ferrari."

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 11:03

It's certainly a common theme isn't it... Schumacher and Raikkonen both said it. It would almost be a shame that if, of the two, the only one that was proven correct was the guy that got paid off to leave. Saying it in your first appearance in the team colours seems a bit premature too, but maybe the Italian press would start sharpening their pencils very quickly if you don't seem committed enough!

I suppose that Lewis has paraphrased it at McLaren too, during 2008 anyway, but I think it was qualified a bit and surely taken with a pinch of salt from someone that was only in their second season.


Actually the fact that even Raikkonen said that speech is one of the things that make me think there may be some kind of an instruction.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 11:16

Common guys this is how life works. How many times did you tell a girl you love her and thought it would last forever.

#10 Captain Tightpants

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 11:24

Ironically, the mantra of the Cold War was BETTER DEAD THAN RED.

#11 Modern Lover

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 11:58

Ironically, the mantra of the Cold War was BETTER DEAD THAN RED.


It still is...

#12 johnmhinds

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 12:08

Ferrari is one of the highest paying teams on the grid.

No wonder they all say they want to stay there forever.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 12:10

Alonso was enemy for some time. He has to talk PR bullshit right now. Especially if it turns out that the car is shit and his 0,6s input wont help.

Edited by Nuvol, 15 January 2010 - 12:10.


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Posted 15 January 2010 - 12:16

Ok i was reading Alonso's interview and i once again heard the speech i heard from everyone that signs with Ferrari. How they want to end there careers there, it's all one big family and how it's the best EVER! and they feel the history of the team and all that.

Now no one expects someone who gets in to his new team to say bad words, off course his gonna say good things but this Ferrari talk is so similar that am wondering if they are given strict instruction to make a reference exactly about those things in there first interviews.

Is it some policy to keep that "we are one big family" and "you can see Enzo's ghost in the hallway" image going? I mean the guy just got his red T-shirt how the hell does he know he wants to stay there forever. We heard all that from many drivers who left saying opposite things afterwards. Isn't it enough to just say that it looks like a great team and they know there job very well?

Are they instructed?


I think is standard behavior for all drivers, or sport players in general. Alonso said almost the same in McLaren.

You always see the football players declaring that they always wanted to play for that new team and finish their careers there. In Spain is specially funny when you have a player from Barcelona signing for Real Madrid (or vice versa) and declaring eternal loyalty to the new team.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 12:28

This has little to do with Ferrari and more to do with the drivers,in this case Alonso.

Ironically, the mantra of the Cold War was BETTER DEAD THAN RED.



Which also happens to be my mantra,in this time and age. There's always a nagging fear somewhere-you never know where and when commies could strike!

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 12:32

I can certainly believe that, in comparison with where he's been for the last couple of years and how he ended the year before that, Ferrari must seem like a nice warm cuddly place to be. So he might possibly believe those words right now. The first time he gets beaten by Massa or if he spends a race staring at a Renault rear wing, I think he may come to doubt them.

It's all just PR spin and to be expected right now.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 23:15

Common guys this is how life works. How many times did you tell a girl you love her and thought it would last forever.

Are we allowed to divide that question into two parts?

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 00:48

Actually the fact that even Raikkonen said that speech is one of the things that make me think there may be some kind of an instruction.

I think what Räikkönen said was more pragmatic than anything else. It was clear that he wouldn't drive until his late 30's so it was reasonable to guess Ferrari would be his last team. And compared to McLaren Ferrari cut him some slack as far as his hobbies and his infamous drinking habits are concerned so he said that he likes the more laid back athmosphere and enjoys himself more than at McLaren. I don't recall him blowing too much smoke up their asses but I also don't remember the exact quotes.

As for Alonso I think he's really sweet-talking himself into Ferrari's good graces. In light of the Räikkönen sacking it seems Ferrari needs this "affectionate" relationship with their drivers and Alonso is smart enough to realise that. He's setting himself up to be the "real" Schumacher successor within Ferrari. Im not saying he's lying or saying these things just to appease Ferrari, he may very well feel this way, but the political element in this also has to be considered.

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 12:24

I think is standard behavior for all drivers, or sport players in general. Alonso said almost the same in McLaren.

You always see the football players declaring that they always wanted to play for that new team and finish their careers there. In Spain is specially funny when you have a player from Barcelona signing for Real Madrid (or vice versa) and declaring eternal loyalty to the new team.


Yeah, precisely. In football managing games you can take Huddersfield to the top, then sign a 30-year old player who tells the media that Huddersfield have always been his favourite club :p

But I wouldn't want to leave Ferrari myself once that I got a foot in there. That would be my second highest amibition, only beaten by becoming WDC. So, if Ferrariu build shitboxes for the next five years Alonso will still earn lots of money as well as being dressed in red... That can't be too bad, can it? :smoking:

Edited by jeze, 16 January 2010 - 12:24.


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#20 Buttoneer

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 17:35

I always think I'd love to buy a place and live forever in the current country I am holidaying in.

#21 Jose Mourinho is Special

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 17:40

Alonso's last team will be Mercedes or Renault

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 17:42

ALO: This was the last race with you guys. It was the final race, and we have won both championships again. Thank your for all these years, it has been a pleasure for me to work with you with this success, and I wish you the best for the future.
PS: We wish you the best too Fernando.
ALO: As long as the car is not red, I wish you the best!
RN: Don’t worry, we’ll never paint it red mate! Absolutely fantastic, it has been a brilliant year, a brilliant year mate, well done.


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#23 Muzzinho

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 17:49

Its the same as Hammy wanting out of mclaren last year when his bad data and feedback produced a dog at the first race of the season.


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