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#1 JKTRacing

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 16:53

Germany? - Schumi + Rosberg + Sutil +Glock + Vettel + Hulkenberg

Spain? - Alonso +Algersuari +De La Rosa

England? - Lewis + Button

Brasil? - Massa + Senna + Barrichello +Di Grassi

Italy? - Liuzzi + Trulli

Discuss

Edited by JKTRacing, 24 January 2010 - 16:53.


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#2 Raincoat

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 16:55

Germany? - Schumi + Rosberg + Sutil +Glock + Vettel + Hulkenberg

Spain? - Alonso +Algersuari +De La Rosa

England? - Lewis + Button

Brasil? - Massa + Senna + Barrichello +Di Grassi

Italy? - Liuzzi + Trulli

Discuss



You must be German, nice way to boast!!

#3 Muzzinho

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 16:56

Germany easily.

All of those drivers are capable of GP wins. Yes even Sutil.

#4 mclarensmps

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 16:56

Germany? - Schumi + Rosberg + Sutil +Glock + Vettel + Hulkenberg

Spain? - Alonso +Algersuari +De La Rosa

England? - Lewis + Button

Brasil? - Massa + Senna + Barrichello +Di Grassi

Italy? - Liuzzi + Trulli

Discuss


Well that's easy. From sheer numbers, it's Germany. Schumi + Vettel = Lewis + Button, possibly slightly better, possibly slightly worse, but then they also have Rosberg, Sutil, Glock and the wildcard Hulkenberg.

Even if Hulkenberg flops (though I doubt he will), I don't consider the other three slouches at all.

#5 Xaus

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 16:56

Who cares.

They could be penguins and seals from Antarctica for all I care but if they can drive an F1 car to the absolute limit and hold it there is all I care about.

#6 JKTRacing

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 16:57

I'm Spanish actually. How many of does Germans will get podiums this year?;)


Edit: My money is on Hamilton+Button

Edited by JKTRacing, 24 January 2010 - 16:58.


#7 senna da silva

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 16:58

Who cares.

They could be penguins and seals from Antarctica for all I care but if they can drive an F1 car to the absolute limit and hold it there is all I care about.


:up:

#8 Seanspeed

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 17:00

Whichever one drives the best cars.

#9 Buckethead

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 17:01

All of those drivers are capable of GP wins. Yes even Sutil.


haha, no way. If he is going to win a race, he will spin or crash. No doubt about it :lol:

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 17:03

haha, no way. If he is going to win a race, he will spin or crash. No doubt about it :lol:

:o

#11 dexter311

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 17:05

haha, no way. If he is going to win a race, he will spin or crash. No doubt about it :lol:

Kimi will run into him somehow in his WRC car. :drunk:

#12 mclarensmps

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 17:06

Kimi will run into him somehow in his WRC car. :drunk:

:lol:

#13 Slartibartfast

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 17:24

UK - Ross Brawn, Christian Horner, Martin Whitmarsh, Frank Williams, John Booth.

But the winner is...





France - Jean Todt

#14 Seb S.

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 17:26

German "autobahn", the way to promote best driver !

#15 Modern Lover

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 17:29

Germany easily.

All of those drivers are capable of GP wins. Yes even Sutil.


Pound for pound it is easily England. Two world champs compared to Germany's one superman and a whole bunch of also rans (Vettel not included in the latter group).

#16 Seanspeed

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 18:08

Pound for pound it is easily England. Two world champs compared to Germany's one superman and a whole bunch of also rans (Vettel not included in the latter group).

Hulkenberg is an 'also-ran'? :well:

Glock and Sutil may have proven to be nothing extraordinary, but calling them 'also-rans' is a bit harsh, if you ask me.

You're not biased(British) are ya?  ;)

#17 alecc

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 18:14

German, it's obvious, but because the question is silly, I make a silly answer:
Poland - Rober Kubica and eee.... oh yeah, how I could forgot Sobieslaw Zasada

clearly best racing country :lol:

#18 Sakae

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 18:34

Hulkenberg is an 'also-ran'? :well:

Glock and Sutil may have proven to be nothing extraordinary, but calling them 'also-rans' is a bit harsh, if you ask me.

You're not biased(British) are ya?;)

You forgot that he characterized this way NH as well.




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#19 Sakae

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 18:36

Who cares.

I do.

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#20 Anomnader

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 18:40

Hulkenberg is an 'also-ran'? :well:

Glock and Sutil may have proven to be nothing extraordinary, but calling them 'also-rans' is a bit harsh, if you ask me.

You're not biased(British) are ya? ;)


Well seeing how Hulkenberg is yet to drive a F1 car, being a also-ran would be promotion for him.

Thats not to dismiss Hulk, but he can't really be graded in F1 terms until he has actually driven in a F1 race.

#21 Anomnader

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 18:50

Germany? - Schumi + Rosberg + Sutil +Glock + Vettel + Hulkenberg

Spain? - Alonso +Algersuari +De La Rosa

England? - Lewis + Button

Brasil? - Massa + Senna + Barrichello +Di Grassi

Italy? - Liuzzi + Trulli

Discuss



well, lets grade them out of 0-10 and then average the scores, these are quick random guess's I'll try and be fair to everyones fanboy standpoints.

Germany
MS-10
Rosberg-5
Glock-4
Sutill-4
Vettel-7
Hulk 2 (how can be graded when not run yet, give him a bit for potential)

Spain
Alonso-9
Algersuari-3
Rosa-3

England
Lewis-8
Button-7

Brasil
Massa-7
Senna 1 (how can be graded when not run yet, give him a bit for potential but less than hulk is fair)
Barro-6
Grassi-3

Italy
Trulli-5
Liuzzi-3

+++++++++++++++++++

Italy - 4
Brasil - 4.25
England - 7.5
Spain - 5
Germany - 5.3



England Winner!

#22 JKTRacing

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 19:08

That was a very fair & quick overview, I would go + - 1 or 2 points but apart from that spot on!

#23 George Costanza

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 19:18

Team Germany.

#24 onemoresolo

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 19:21

well, lets grade them out of 0-10 and then average the scores, these are quick random guess's I'll try and be fair to everyones fanboy standpoints.

Germany
MS-10
Rosberg-5
Glock-4
Sutill-4
Vettel-7
Hulk 2 (how can be graded when not run yet, give him a bit for potential)

Spain
Alonso-9
Algersuari-3
Rosa-3

England
Lewis-8
Button-7

Brasil
Massa-7
Senna 1 (how can be graded when not run yet, give him a bit for potential but less than hulk is fair)
Barro-6
Grassi-3

Italy
Trulli-5
Liuzzi-3

+++++++++++++++++++

Italy - 4
Brasil - 4.25
England - 7.5
Spain - 5
Germany - 5.3



England Winner!


With Australia a close second!

#25 beute

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 19:23

That was a very fair & quick overview, I would go + - 1 or 2 points but apart from that spot on!


yeah, sure XD

you cannot compare a uneven number of drivers.
what if all other german drivers but Schumacher were gone? would germany be rated 10?
why is he rating drivers that no one can rate yet, i mean a 2 for Hulkenberg? if you cant rate them, then dont do it.
That number just drags down the overall score.

Take the Nation with the smallest number of drivers (uk).
That would be 2.
Now pick the 2 best drivers of every nation and compare them.



#26 Anomnader

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 19:25

With Australia a close second!


yes.... stick Australia with Webber on his own, by my scoring I'd also make Austra second strongest :stoned:




#27 Anomnader

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 19:27

yeah, sure XD

you cannot compare a uneven number of drivers.
what if all other german drivers but Schumacher were gone? would germany be rated 10?
why is he rating drivers that no one can rate yet, i mean a 2 for Hulkenberg? if you cant rate them, then dont do it.
That number just drags down the overall score.


Well marking him 0 would knock germanys and brazils scoring far down

Take the Nation with the smallest number of drivers (uk).
That would be 2.
Now pick the 2 best drivers of every nation and compare them.



Could do that, but that wasn't the posted question

#28 Owen

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 19:28

The back to back world champions are from Britain. So Britain obviously*

*May contain nationalistic bias

#29 beute

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 19:42

Could do that, but that wasn't the posted question


...
the OP looked for the strongest lineup, so we're not looking for the average score but for the absolute score.


schumi+vettel =17/2 =8.5
button+lewis =15/2 =7.5

how would it make germany's lineup worse by ADDING 4 other german drivers?
it wouldnt, it would make it stronger.
The average score would drop, but the absolute strength would increase.

regardless, you cant compare average scores with uneven numbers.


#30 Anomnader

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 19:49

regardless, you cant compare average scores with uneven numbers.


It was a while ago that I left school, but I thought that was the whole point of averages, that you actually could compare scores with uneven numbers...


#31 THE "driverider"

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 21:18

If you did it on 2 drivers per nation.

Britain - Button/Hamilton
Germany - Schumacher/Vettel
Brazil - Barrichello/Massa
Spain - Alonso/de la Rosa
Italy - Trulli/Liuzzi

Britain wins just, Germany a close second, Brazil third, Spain forth and Italy fifth.

Edited by THE "driverider", 24 January 2010 - 21:19.


#32 Raincoat

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 21:24

Hulkenberg is an 'also-ran'? :well:

Glock and Sutil may have proven to be nothing extraordinary, but calling them 'also-rans' is a bit harsh, if you ask me.

You're not biased(British) are ya? ;)



We are still waiting for the American USF1 drivers :rotfl:

#33 Sakae

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 21:25

If you did it on 2 drivers per nation.

Britain - Button/Hamilton
Germany - Schumacher/Vettel
Brazil - Barrichello/Massa
Spain - Alonso/de la Rosa
Italy - Trulli/Liuzzi

Britain wins just, Germany a close second, Brazil third, Spain forth and Italy fifth.

Isn't DLR Portugese?

#34 piercey

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 21:50

Isn't DLR Portugese?


Nope, he is Spanish. Originally from Barcelona, IIRC.

Either way, I'll probably say Britain for now, if only because both of their drivers have a legit shot at winning the WDC this year. However, remember boys and girls that if the rumors are true that Britain and Germany could both possibly be adding one more driver.

#35 Anomnader

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 21:55

However, remember boys and girls that if the rumors are true that Britain and Germany could both possibly be adding one more driver.



hmmm?

#36 docronzo

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 22:01

Germany, because they have the Ross and the Michael! :clap:

BTW: Button will be as succesful as in the years 2000-2008. -Remember my words.

#37 Modern Lover

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 22:34

Hulkenberg is an 'also-ran'? :well:

Glock and Sutil may have proven to be nothing extraordinary, but calling them 'also-rans' is a bit harsh, if you ask me.

You're not biased(British) are ya? ;)


Not a pom, just trying to make sense of the thread starters logic :p

#38 Mandzipop

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 23:10

If you did it on 2 drivers per nation.

Britain - Button/Hamilton
Germany - Schumacher/Vettel
Brazil - Barrichello/Massa
Spain - Alonso/de la Rosa
Italy - Trulli/Liuzzi

Britain wins just, Germany a close second, Brazil third, Spain forth and Italy fifth.


No idea where you got that from.

Team Germany have 17 years of full racing between them (I'm only including Schumacher and Vettel). There are 7 WDC's and 4 runner up's between them.

Britiain has 13 full years, 2 WDC's and 1 runner up.

On paper Germany has the potential to have the better lineup.

This is a good thread because if you take the top 2 of every nation and add the points together at the end of the season, then we will find out.

Must say I am suprised that on a lot of betting sites, Schumacher is joint second favourite for the title with Alonso. Vettel seems to be consistantly 4th.

#39 Captain Tightpants

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 23:34

I'd rank them like this:

1st - Germany
2nd - Great Britain
3rd - Brazil
4th - Italy
5th - Spain

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 23:41

The back to back world champions are from Britain. So Britain obviously*

*May contain nationalistic bias

*That's OK, you're allowed that.

I agree, team UK has the best driver line up.


#41 RSNS

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 23:44

This thread is an encouragement to nationalistic, chauvinistic and jingoistic balderdash.
Just my opinion, I'm not criticizing.

#42 Madera

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 23:49

This thread is an encouragement to nationalistic, chauvinistic and jingoistic balderdash.
Just my opinion, I'm not criticizing.

Depends on what country you're from. :)

#43 klyster

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 00:39

Sticking to the title of the thread, and taking into consideration the obvious, Germany of course :D

Edited by klyster, 25 January 2010 - 05:17.


#44 William Hunt

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 04:09

Apart from the 6 already with a race seat Germany still has Heidfeld waiting to come back and the very talented Christian Vietoris in GP2 (I think we might already see him in F1 in 2011).

#45 Mekola

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 04:09

Germany has the best line-up, close following by Great Britain.

#46 Youichi

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 09:10

Sticking to the title of the thread, and taking into consideration the obvious, Germany of course :D


Sticking to the thread title, and considering the obvious, Germany don't even appear on the list, and its an English walkover.

England - McLaren, Williams, Renault (1/2), Red Bull (1/2), Brawn, Virgin, Lotus, Torro Rosso (1/4) Force India, Cosworth (USF1, Campos 1) = 8 1/4
Italy - Ferrari, Saubers engines (1/2) Torro Rosso (3/4), Dallara (Campos 1/4) = 2 1/2
France - Renault engines (Renault + Red Bull) = 1
USA - USF1 (1/2) = 1/2
Switzerland - Sauber (1/2) = 1/2
Spain - Campos (1/4) = 1/4





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Posted 25 January 2010 - 11:24

Sticking to the thread title, and considering the obvious, Germany don't even appear on the list, and its an English walkover.

England - McLaren, Williams, Renault (1/2), Red Bull (1/2), Brawn, Virgin, Lotus, Torro Rosso (1/4) Force India, Cosworth (USF1, Campos 1) = 8 1/4
Italy - Ferrari, Saubers engines (1/2) Torro Rosso (3/4), Dallara (Campos 1/4) = 2 1/2
France - Renault engines (Renault + Red Bull) = 1
USA - USF1 (1/2) = 1/2
Switzerland - Sauber (1/2) = 1/2
Spain - Campos (1/4) = 1/4


Youichi,

Although Mercedes is a feminine Spanish name (DTMYDKI), i would consider the three pointed star as truly German, so, why not 1 point for them. :)

#48 potmotr

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 11:31

Germany, no question.

By sheer numbers alone.

#49 klyster

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 11:58

Sticking to the thread title, and considering the obvious, Germany don't even appear on the list, and its an English walkover.

England - McLaren, Williams, Renault (1/2), Red Bull (1/2), Brawn, Virgin, Lotus, Torro Rosso (1/4) Force India, Cosworth (USF1, Campos 1) = 8 1/4
Italy - Ferrari, Saubers engines (1/2) Torro Rosso (3/4), Dallara (Campos 1/4) = 2 1/2
France - Renault engines (Renault + Red Bull) = 1
USA - USF1 (1/2) = 1/2
Switzerland - Sauber (1/2) = 1/2
Spain - Campos (1/4) = 1/4


but but but, you didn't read the thread creators first post, which IMO, sets the theme on which the thread title is based.
Not that I really care mind you....as long as McLaren win!! lol:D

Edited by klyster, 25 January 2010 - 11:59.


#50 Youichi

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 14:07

Youichi,

Although Mercedes is a feminine Spanish name (DTMYDKI), i would consider the three pointed star as truly German, so, why not 1 point for them. :)


Because the cars are designed and built in Brackley, England, and the engines are designed and built in Brixworth, England.