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#1 Patriot

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 08:26

Just read the news that MS is likely to race beyond 2012, he'll enter his third decade of competetive racing. Quite an achievement, and clearly on the way to became european AJ (and Andretti to some extent)

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#2 Galko877

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 08:29

Will he stay until he can race with his own son?  ;)

#3 Lifew12

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 09:06

Just read the news that MS is likely to race beyond 2012,



No you didn't; you read that he 'could' race beyond 2012. So could anyone.


#4 Patriot

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 09:36

No you didn't; you read that he 'could' race beyond 2012. So could anyone.


anyway, one of the rare europeans to do so, except for maybe mr.X to some extent

#5 pingu666

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 10:21

erm doesnt AJ allmendiger race nascars now? :p;)

#6 undersquare

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 10:54

Michael hasn't done one lap in a current car yet, never mind a race weekend or a season or three.

Sounds like mind games to me, Ross saying Nico is there to take over when Schumi gets past it, Schumi saying when I'm good and ready... :lol:

#7 shonguiz

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 13:20

What's an Aj ?

#8 MegaManson

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 13:24

I am confused :confused: :confused:

Alan Jones ?
AJ Allmendinger ?



#9 bobqzzi

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 13:28

What's an Aj ?



Anthony Joseph Foyt

From Wikipedia-
Anthony Joseph Foyt, Jr., or as he is universally known as in motorsports circles, A. J. Foyt (born January 16, 1935, in Houston, Texas), is a retired American automobile racing driver. He raced in numerous genres of motorsports. His open wheel racing includes USAC Champ cars and midget cars. He raced stock cars in NASCAR and USAC. He won several major sports car racing events. He holds the all-time USAC career wins record with 159 victories,[1] and the all-time American championship racing career wins record with 67.[2]

He is the only driver to win the Indianapolis 500 (which he won four times), the Daytona 500, the 24 Hours of Daytona, and the 24 Hours of Le Mans. Foyt won the International Race of Champions all-star racing series in 1976 and 1977. Foyt's success has led to induction in numerous motorsports halls of fame.

Edited by bobqzzi, 28 January 2010 - 13:31.


#10 Talryyn

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 15:02

Nah, AJ stole his fathers go-kart while MS built his own. I also think MS will treat his grandsons better (when I was younger I was racing with one of the grandsons - AJ was brutal/physical to the boy for his lack of performance so to speak. We were in different classes though, so I did not get to beat him like my other fellow racers were. ;)

AJ was my biggest hero growing up until that day. It is one of those things that you never forget, some of the other kids I raced with at the time were just in shock over what we saw.

#11 Patriot

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 15:06

Thats true he has bad temper. He once pushed Luyendyik, Luyendike fell in the bush and AJ mocked him. Bad temper, but hell of a driver.

#12 Talryyn

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 15:28

Thats true he has bad temper. He once pushed Luyendyik, Luyendike fell in the bush and AJ mocked him. Bad temper, but hell of a driver.


Yep I remember seeing many things on TV later on in life. As a kid though you never want to see "your hero" doing that to another kid. I forget how old I was, or what I was even racing at the time.


#13 pacwest

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 15:47

If MS is to become a bitter, abusive, violent, angry old man he should stop now.

#14 Patriot

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 15:50

If MS is to become a bitter, abusive, violent, angry old man he should stop now.


do not steer the thread away from topic

We speak about competetive racing through 3 decades

#15 Lifew12

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 17:04

do not steer the thread away from topic

We speak about competetive racing through 3 decades


I'm not quite getting this three decades thing - are you saying thirty years, or are you saying 90's, 00's and 10's?

#16 Lifew12

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 17:13

Patriot - somethings been bugging me for the last 24 hours and I know now what it is; you must be the oldest member on here - I make you at least 81! Now that's some going.

#17 billm99uk

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 17:40

Let's hope he doesn't get that grumpy in his old age :p

#18 nordschleife

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 18:50

I'm not quite getting this three decades thing - are you saying thirty years, or are you saying 90's, 00's and 10's?


A. J. Foyt raced in 35 Indy 500's spanning 5 decades. During that period (1958 -1992) it was regarded as the race all racers wanted to win even if it usually wasn't quite the cutting edge of racing technology .

http://ajfoytracing.com/

#19 senna da silva

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 19:01

Does this mean Michael is going to throw down with Lewis in front of the Grimaldis when Hamilton steals the Monaco win away this year? :rotfl:

Edited by senna da silva, 28 January 2010 - 19:01.


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#20 AndreasF1

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 19:03

I am confused :confused: :confused:

Alan Jones ?
AJ Allmendinger ?



and you call yourself a racing fan ? :rotfl: :rotfl:

#21 Levike

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 19:04

do not steer the thread away from topic

We speak about competetive racing through 3 decades


Why not ? If you can steer a topic away with your "facts", then....

#22 Levike

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 19:04

Anyhow, A.J :up:

#23 nordschleife

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 19:44

Does this mean Michael is going to throw down with Lewis in front of the Grimaldis when Hamilton steals the Monaco win away this year? :rotfl:


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#24 Jose Mourinho is Special

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 00:49

Alan Jones?

#25 OfficeLinebacker

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 02:45

Anthony Joseph Foyt

...the all-time American championship racing career wins record with 67.[2]...


Uh, Richard Petty won 200.

Goes to show why you can't trust Wikipedia completely. Other than that, good synopsis.

#26 Dmitriy_Guller

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 02:55

Uh, Richard Petty won 200.

Goes to show why you can't trust Wikipedia completely. Other than that, good synopsis.

I'm pretty it's talking about Champcar races. Otherwise you're wrong as well, Dick Trickle won 1,000+ races in America.

Edited by Dmitriy_Guller, 29 January 2010 - 02:58.


#27 nordschleife

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 04:37

Unconfirmed rumour: Pedants have lost count of Steve Kinser's wins. Will have to start over.

#28 skinnylizard

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 04:48

well MS thus far has raced in only one or two categories (Sports car & F1) so not sure if he would be in the same context (i would not dare to say league by denigrating either driver)

#29 nordschleife

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 05:52

Uh, Richard Petty won 200.

Goes to show why you can't trust Wikipedia completely. Other than that, good synopsis.


Wikipedia provides clarification and justification for its contention that "Anthony Joseph Foyt ... [holds] the all-time American championship racing career wins record ..." Clicking on that quote displays this explanation: "Since 1916 there has been a recognized United States national automobile racing National Championship for drivers of professional-level, single-seat open wheel race cars."

Petty's rout wasn't accomplished at the top level of American racing at the time. Matter of opinion? No. The NASCAR guys who kiss the Speedway's bricks are showing respect and deference to legends like Foyt.

#30 lustigson

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 08:33

... win the Indianapolis 500 [...], the Daytona 500, the 24 Hours of Daytona, and the 24 Hours of Le Mans...

To me, this is what makes A.J. Foyt, jr. stand out against M. Schumacher, who, in top level motorsport, only won in Grands Prix, plus 2 victories in the World Sportscar Championship.

The same goes for a driver like N.G. Hill, who won the Monaco Grand Prix, the 24 Hours of Le Mans, and the Indianapolis 500, plus 2 World Drivers' Championships.

#31 SeanValen

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 10:46

To me, this is what makes A.J. Foyt, jr. stand out against M. Schumacher, who, in top level motorsport, only won in Grands Prix, plus 2 victories in the World Sportscar Championship.

The same goes for a driver like N.G. Hill, who won the Monaco Grand Prix, the 24 Hours of Le Mans, and the Indianapolis 500, plus 2 World Drivers' Championships.



I think with MS not done with f1 yet, he could win Le Mans in his 50s after f1, it's there for him to win if he wants it, he's unpredictable and could do anything, his motorbike try out was unpredictable as well, especially leave ferrari as he has done.

Edited by SeanValen, 29 January 2010 - 10:48.


#32 Risil

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 13:31

To me, this is what makes A.J. Foyt, jr. stand out against M. Schumacher, who, in top level motorsport, only won in Grands Prix, plus 2 victories in the World Sportscar Championship.

The same goes for a driver like N.G. Hill, who won the Monaco Grand Prix, the 24 Hours of Le Mans, and the Indianapolis 500, plus 2 World Drivers' Championships.


Don't forget Michael won races in the old Sportscar World Championship. Wasn't his fault it imploded at around the same time his F1 career began. Le Mans is still a long way from being a serious proposition for a top-level racing driver, like it was in ~1990.

Foyt lived at a time when being a short-tracking Texan didn't preclude major success in them uppity tea-drinking sports cars, or for that matter in those funny rear-engined rollerskate Indycars. He was a bit of a Kenny Roberts, who was equally at home in Springfield or Silverstone.

Edited by Risil, 29 January 2010 - 13:32.


#33 lustigson

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 14:42

Don't forget Michael won races in the old Sportscar World Championship.

... plus 2 victories in the World Sportscar Championship...

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 14:47

December 10, 2040

Michael Schumacher as announced his fourteenth retirement from motor racing after winning Le Mans for the tenth time in a row.

"One of my mechanics tripped over my Zimmer frame during a pit stop, and he broke a leg. It's a sign."



#35 Risil

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 14:47

:cool:


Hahaha. :D Although I don't see what else a European racing driver could be expected to achieve. Truck racing maybe? ;)

Edited by Risil, 29 January 2010 - 14:47.


#36 nordschleife

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 18:25

Hahaha. :D Although I don't see what else a European racing driver could be expected to achieve. Truck racing maybe?;)


How about winning Dakar like Jacky Ickx?

Or the Indy 500 like Dario Franchitti?

Or Pike's Peak like Ari Vatanen?

Or the Daytona 500 like Mario Andretti?

Or the respect of a seemingly closed shop (NASCAR) like Juan Pablo Montoya?

Or even attempting to master a Moto GP machine like Herr Schumacher did?

Or making a serious effort to master WRC like Kimi Raikkonen?

Or DTM?

And, yeah, truck racing.

Edited by nordschleife, 30 January 2010 - 02:24.


#37 Kaiser

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 06:25

Montoya and Andretti are European?

#38 PayasYouRace

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 11:33

Well Andretti was born in Italy. :p

As for Montoya, he did most of his early racing in Europe, and went to CART after his F3000 championship year. He was schooled in European racing, which I think was the point being made.

#39 Risil

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 11:43

Well Andretti was born in Italy. :p

As for Montoya, he did most of his early racing in Europe, and went to CART after his F3000 championship year. He was schooled in European racing, which I think was the point being made.


So was Paul Tracy. :p

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 19:25

Well, MS is gonna have to pack on a whole lot of lbs (kilos) before he is anywhere near being the Europeen Anthony Joseph Foyt.

Ain't gonna happen!

:rotfl:

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