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[Lothar]

Hi,

I am collecting all kinds of information on non-German riders on BMW solo and sidecar racing motorcycles. Fotos, race results, entries, comments, facts and feats are welcome. Also book and website recommendations

Some names I have already collected:

Phil Read
Dave Degens
Geoff Duke
Dickie Dale
John Surtees
Pip Harris
Colin Seeley
Chris Vincent

Thank You!

Lothar
www.bmw-veteranenclub.de

[Continental Circus]

Hi,

I am collecting all kinds of information on non-German riders on BMW solo and sidecar racing motorcycles. Fotos, race results, entries, comments, facts and feats are welcome. Also book and website recommendations

Some names I have already collected:

Phil Read
Dave Degens
Geoff Duke
Dickie Dale
John Surtees
Pip Harris
Colin Seeley
Chris Vincent
Thank You!

Hello Lothar, Welcome to the M/C living museum. These extra names are taken from memory.
Alan Young UK (S/C)
Bill Beevers UK (S/C)
Jackie Beeton UK (S/C)
Eric Pickup UK (S/C)
Tom Jackson UK (S/C)
Orrie Salter Aus (S/C)
Florian Camathias Swiss (S/C)
Fritz Scheidegger Swiss (S/C)
H Curchod Swiss (S/C)
Jack Forest Aus
Fumio Ito Japan
Ed La Belle USA or Canadian
There are a lot more but need a bit of bookwork.
Roy

Lothar
www.bmw-veteranenclub.de

[Continental Circus]

Hi Lothar,
Here are a few more BMW non Germant pilots.
Claude Lambert Swiss (S/C)
J Rogliardo France (S/C)
B Snajder Yugo (S/C)
Edgar Strub Swiss (S/C)
J Wijns Holland? (S/C)
Roy

[Ray Oldam]

Lothar,

Hi and welcome! You could try the Gus Kuhn racing website. They ran BMWs with a number of riders in the 70's and 80's - mostly in endurance and production racing.

Try this link:

http://www.guskuhn.n...g/GKMRacing.htm

Good luck in your search!

All the best

Ray

[Rennmax]

Hi Lothar, do you know Mick Walker's "BMW: The racing story" , I assume it should be helpful for your search.


Edit: The Belgian Vanneste brothers and Tony Wakefield are also worth to be mentioned...

Edit edit Jock West and Karl Gall too

Edited by Rennmax, 14 February 2010 - 12:38.

[Herr Wankel]

Hi Lothar,

Reg Pridmore US Butler and Smith R90/S (Daytona etc)
Jeff Gawley UK Rennsport S/C GPs in the Enders era
Graham Milton UK Rennsport S/C GPs
Dickinson UK Rennsport S/C GPs
Ronnie Coxon UK Rennsport S/C Inters late 70s
Sid Mizen,Catlin,Holder,Ellis Boyce.1961 R69S Montlhéry 12 and 24 hour records (176 Km/hr)

HW

[Lothar]

Thank You

I am sorry that I did not give the time range which intersts me most:

It is the 1950ies and 1960ies

But - please - keep on delivering all that You have got!

[milestone 11]

Continental Circus has already mentioned Florian Camathias, to the best of my knowledge he is the only non German BMW rider to have won a TT, the '63 sidecar. Mac McDiarmid, the respected biographer has also raced a BMW at the TT. Another that comes to mind is Nick Jefferies. Have a look here, http://www.iomtt.com...spx?mach_id=161

I've just been looking at this, there are too many to mention.

[Rennmax]

Continental Circus has already mentioned Florian Camathias, to the best of my knowledge he is the only non German BMW rider to have won a TT, the '63 sidecar. Mac McDiarmid, the respected biographer has also raced a BMW at the TT. Another that comes to mind is Nick Jefferies. Have a look here, http://www.iomtt.com...spx?mach_id=161

I've just been looking at this, there are too many to mention.

Hi, Fritz Scheidegger did it too in '66
Cheers

[milestone 11]

Hi, Fritz Scheidegger did it too in '66
Cheers

Sorry Rennmax, you are absolutely correct. My bad.

[Rennmax]

Sorry Rennmax, you are absolutely correct. My bad.

No problem, if you study the various m/c threads, you' ll see all my errors

[milestone 11]

No problem, if you study the various m/c threads, you' ll see all my errors

That's part of the reason that I don't post too often, as I'm invariably wrong. It gets a bit embarrassing after a while. Too many people on these boards with far too much knowledge.

Edit, I used to think I was quite knowledgeable, no longer I'm afraid.

Edited by milestone 11, 14 February 2010 - 14:59.

[Rennmax]

That's part of the reason that I don't post too often, as I'm invariably wrong. It gets a bit embarrassing after a while. Too many people on these boards with far too much knowledge.

Edit, I used to think I was quite knowledgeable, no longer I'm afraid.

Don't be shy, after all it's only fun and not a exam

[Coupe Kawasaki]

That's part of the reason that I don't post too often, as I'm invariably wrong. It gets a bit embarrassing after a while. Too many people on these boards with far too much knowledge.

Edit, I used to think I was quite knowledgeable, no longer I'm afraid.

Well it wouldn't be fun for me if I knew all of the answers, I only get then wrong to give the others a chance eh Phil?



David

[fil2.8]

[quote name='Coupe Kawasaki' date='Feb 14 2010, 16:21' post='4142976']
I only get then wrong to give the others a chance eh Phil?



David

If you say so David , silly bugger !!!

[Lothar]

Fahrer Beifahrer Herkunft Jahr
Name Vorname Name Vorname Monat

Beevers Bill Chisnell John 1959
Harris Peter Campbell Ray 1959
Beeton Jack Bulgin Ed 1960
Beevers Bill Chisnell John 1960
Harris Peter Campbell Ray 1960
Beeton Jack Bulgin Ed 1961
Harris Peter Campbell Ray 1961
Pickup Eric Biggs James 1961
Scholes Harold Lindsay Ray 1961
Pickup Eric Scott Keith 1962
Scholes Harold Lindsay Ray 1962
Beeton Jack Bulgin Ed 1963
Birch Alan Birch Peter 1963
Sanders E Eastwick H 1963
Birch Alan Cropper Peter 1964
Harris Peter Campbell Ray 1964
Jackson Tony Hartill Peter 1964
Seeley Colin Rawling Walter 1964
Vincent Chris Scott Keith 1964
Harris Peter Campbell Ray 1965
Seeley Colin Rawling Walter 1965
Thompson Barry Bradley Richard Aus 1965
Vincent Chris Cassey Peter 1965
Vincent Chris Roche Fred 1965
Dungworth Barry Caddow Neil 1966
Seeley Colin Rawling Walter 1966
Thompson Barry Wood Gerald Aus 1966
Vincent Chris Harrison Terrence 1966
Wakefield Tony Milton Graham 1966
Dungworth Barry Wilson Ron 1967
Dungworth Barry Caddow Neil 1967
Harris Peter Thornton John 1967
Seeley Colin Lindsay Ray 1967
Wakefield Tony Milton Graham 1967
Brandon John Holland Cliff 1968
Copson Bill HigginbottomF 1968
Tombs Maurice Tombs Trevor 1968
Wakefield Tony Milton Graham 1968
Applegate Stu Appleton Rob 1969
Copson Bill Rowe Dan (w) 1969
Copson Bill Graham Bill 1969
Milton Graham Thornton John 1969
Wakefield Tony Milton Graham 1969
Wakefield Tony Flaxman John 1969
Harris Peter Lindsay Ray 1970
Hornby Colin Griffiths Mike 1970
Milton Graham Thornton John 1970
Wakefield Tony Flaxman John 1970
Gawley Jeff Allcock C. 1971
Hornby Colin Griffiths Mike 1971
Milton Graham Thornton John 1971
Wakefield Tony Mc PhersonJohn 1971
DungsworthBarry Turrington R W 1972
Dutton Roger Wright Tony 1972
Gawley Jeff Knights Frank 1972
Milton Graham Thornton John 1972
Wakefield Tony Mc FadzeanAlex 1972
Dutton Roger Wright Tony 1973
Milton Graham Smith Don 1973
Wakefield Tony Mc FadzeanAlex 1973
Williamson Robin Mc PhersonJack 1973

Quite a lot, isn`t it?! And that is a list only from the 500 cc GP sidecar races from winner down to place number 10! If You consider that there were only 25 engines/motorcycles to be built of the RS 54. There were more sidecar outfits in other countries plus the solo motorcycles.

Solo riders from Britain were Geoff Duke, Dickie Dale and John Surtees.

Thank You for Your help!

Please keep sending more information if You have any!!

[Tony L]

Hello,

I just noticed a thread about 1954 500RS in Finnish veteran bike forum-
http://www.vmpk.fi/f...p?topic=47819.0
Finnish racer Raine Lampinen raced it 1954-1955, then it went to Sweden to Evert Carlsson, who raced it 1956-1961. 1962-63 it was raced by Bosse Rindar and then the engine went to sidecar use.

greetings, Tony

Edited by Tony L, 15 February 2010 - 18:29.