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#5401 ivand911

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 11:32

Wasn't that also not a bit Brawn's fault Massa? :rolleyes:

Not always. Where was other Ferrari?


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Posted 09 September 2010 - 11:53

http://en.espnf1.com...tory/27557.html

Stirling Moss: Michael Schumacher should have been banned for a year.


Ironic that Moss smugly explains how he missed an incident with Farina by 'backing off' but will go on to say how Rubens and Hill were wronged although the pair of them also could of 'backed off'. Seems the best driver to ever come second is a hypocrite.

Moss complains about the track ruination by chicanes, forgets to mention how low the cornering speeds were then and how much slip angle his car's tyres had.

They would run Curve Grande at 200 mph today flat without lifting compared to his 50 to 60 mph back then.

Not always. Where was other Ferrari?


Busy having another "horrible" race I guess battling for 3rd or 4th as usua

#5403 cheapracer

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 11:57

Wasn't that also not a bit Brawn's fault Massa? :rolleyes:


Indeed but there hasn't been a driver capable of winning without engineer support for a very long time now so it comes back to status quo.

Get down deeper and down.

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 13:37

And what? Why did they start on intermediate setup??? The best driver make always the good choice. And monaco 97, hungary 98, austria 03, spa 95, shows that this schumacher was a pure genius.



which is the whole point of this exchange, when rosberg passes schumacher with a more appropriate set up it's just because he's got a faster car. When schumacher wins with a more appropriate set up it's because of the 'genius' of michael that he knows how to set the car up.

Some fans would like a little consistency here that's all, if you call one guy a genius for calling the set up right then don't call the rest of the grid lucky when they do the same.

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 13:47

But ,you think that you can compare Williams 1996 with Ferrari 1996 in Estoril race?


Because the Williams may have been half a second per lap faster then the Ferrari... But the Ferrari with a wet set up on a wet track may have been 3,4, or even more seconds per lap faster then the Williams. JV was easy meat in those conditions. (I still can't see how a simple brake-later-down-the-inside pass can be compared to a long-breathtaking pass around the outside. The former happens every race, the latter happens once a generation.)

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 13:56

And what? Why did they start on intermediate setup??? The best driver make always the good choice. And monaco 97, hungary 98, austria 03, spa 95, shows that this schumacher was a pure genius.


They were all on full wet set up at Barcelona 96. Who would go out on inter or dry set up when there are big showers since warm-up in the morning and no sign of improvement ?

But the whiners complained they hadn't had enough time to set up the car in full wet configuration because the warm up was stopped long before the end in the morning.

As if Schumacher had had the time....


They were all on the same set up and that is why Schumacher was 3-4s a lap faster then anyone else. That is why it's the best or one of the best drive of all time. When it happened he was on on different set up, much more adapted, he was like 11s a lap faster, like in Spa 997, or 6s a lap faster, like in Monaco 97.

Edited by dde, 09 September 2010 - 13:57.


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Posted 09 September 2010 - 16:24

forgot to include in my last post, the 93 williams also had traction control so i can't see how senna had an advantage over them in that regard.

I know this is OT, but judging by that comment you've either never watched Donnington 93 or just have problems remembering races (Like you did with Barcelona and Estoril)

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 18:41

I know this is OT, but judging by that comment you've either never watched Donnington 93 or just have problems remembering races (Like you did with Barcelona and Estoril)


http://en.wikipedia..../Williams_FW15C

the FW15C was at the very forefront, featuring active suspension, anti-lock brakes, traction control, telemetry, fly-by-wire controls, pneumatic valve springs, power steering, semi-automatic transmission,


http://www.f1technic...t/f1db/cars/745

As the car that won both the drivers' and constructors' championships in the last season before the FIA banned electronic driver aids, the FW15C has a decent claim to be the most technologically sophisticated Formula One car of all time, incorporating anti-lock brakes, traction control and active suspension.


http://en.wikipedia....wiki/WilliamsF1

The Williams FW15C was the dominant car, with active suspension and traction control systems



i don't know what point you're trying to make but i do know it's dumb. :wave:



#5409 SparkPlug

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 02:54

http://en.wikipedia..../Williams_FW15C



http://www.f1technic...t/f1db/cars/745



http://en.wikipedia....wiki/WilliamsF1




i don't know what point you're trying to make but i do know it's dumb. :wave:

So, you know how to use google ! What else do you need other than a few Wiki links right ?
Kids these days. :rolleyes:

The Williams suffered from huge handling problems in the entire race which prevented Prost from even a half decent challenge. Not to mention his car was set up for the dry. Senna has himself acknowledged that this win wasnt special. Didnt stop it from becoming part of racing folklore.

I am guessing you are another 'I-dont-like-Schumacher-so-let-me-join-the-Senna-bandwagon-just-for-kicks' brigade whose probably not even seen him turn a wheel

Edited by SparkPlug, 10 September 2010 - 02:55.


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Posted 10 September 2010 - 05:26

Something better: Schumacher vs Villeneuve Barcelona 1996
http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

1996 seems a long time ago. Still drag it out to defend why a faded star like MS should retain an F1 seat ahead of some future stars who could be given their opportunity.

#5411 aditya-now

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 07:12

aditya: :p


Ooooh, yeah, Frans, that´s the spirit. Thanks for the link. It´s just amazing how Schumacher, despite being so brutal and unfair over the years, found his master in people like Villeneuve, Hakkinen, Montoya and Alonso.

Nowadays, of course, even a Jaime Alquersuari or Adrian Sutil or Rubens Barrichello is enough to master Michael Schumacher...


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Posted 10 September 2010 - 07:13

1996 seems a long time ago. Still drag it out to defend why a faded star like MS should retain an F1 seat ahead of some future stars who could be given their opportunity.

I really don't care about this future stars. And Michael can retain his seat, just simply because he can do it. And all GP organizers will want him to start in their races, not some "future or not" stars. Michael bring so much money this year to F1, you can't imagine. On the track he attract between 5000 to 10000 fans. Or more. You think because his thread here is only 130 pages, he is not big star? In Russian forum his thread is 1590 pages long, with 1 460 000 visits, 31000 responses for less than one year. New stars, LOL. Maldonado will make me not to sleep for the next race? Wrong. If you have favorite team, you can invite this new stars there. :rotfl: But, I doubt that.

Aditya, Michael have beat those guys so many times , I am sure he can't remember. For them the opposite is big event. And again :rotfl: .

Edited by ivand911, 10 September 2010 - 07:17.


#5413 aditya-now

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 07:16

But ,you think that you can compare Williams 1996 with Ferrari 1996 in Estoril race?


Have you ever seen Michael overtaking someone like Villeneuve on the outside of a bent, when his opponent was inside? In such a tricky, tight corner like in Estoril? I have not.


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Posted 10 September 2010 - 07:17

Ooooh, yeah, Frans, that´s the spirit. Thanks for the link. It´s just amazing how Schumacher, despite being so brutal and unfair over the years, found his master in people like Villeneuve, Hakkinen, Montoya and Alonso.

Nowadays, of course, even a Jaime Alquersuari or Adrian Sutil or Rubens Barrichello is enough to master Michael Schumacher...

Yes, all those masters of Michael. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 07:26

Have you ever seen Michael overtaking someone like Villeneuve on the outside of a bent, when his opponent was inside? In such a tricky, tight corner like in Estoril? I have not.

Schumacher Vs Alesi Nurburgring 1995

This is even tighter than Estoril? Yes, you usually win 7 titles without overtaking anyone.

Edited by ivand911, 10 September 2010 - 07:48.


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Posted 10 September 2010 - 08:02

The thing what people seem to (want to) forget, is the FACT that Schumacher used Traction control while the rest of the field DID not have it, because it was banned from the 1994 season!

So, Michael haveing it, would let him look good in wet races (now did he? Yes he did) and damp races, (yes he did) and also in speedy corners, where others could not go flat out, (yes with the help of TC, Michael could) and he was also caught using Launch control as well.... So, many of the real racers where fighting an ILLEGAL car, driven by Schumacher. Plain simple, very unfair, and wow, all his fans are so happy with those victories. (did I mention the removing of the fuel rigs in 94? How many races did he win WITH that help? No one talks, pffffft)

Schumacher the worlds most underseved world champ, and I'm putting it very nice here as well. Considered the WAY he did it. Actually a shame if you ask me.

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 08:17

Interview with Schumacher in GQ: http://www.gq-magazi...10/09/08/22791/

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 08:49

So, you know how to use google ! What else do you need other than a few Wiki links right ?
Kids these days. :rolleyes:

The Williams suffered from huge handling problems in the entire race which prevented Prost from even a half decent challenge. Not to mention his car was set up for the dry. Senna has himself acknowledged that this win wasnt special. Didnt stop it from becoming part of racing folklore.

I am guessing you are another 'I-dont-like-Schumacher-so-let-me-join-the-Senna-bandwagon-just-for-kicks' brigade whose probably not even seen him turn a wheel


let me take you through this by the hand as you seem to have gotten yourself a little lost.

Rosberg passes schumacher in the damp, MS fans say this means nothing because he has a wet-leaning set up.

It's pointed out that this is hypocrisy as schumacher is praised for his set up choices in similar circumstances and that one of his most famous drives was one where he had a huge set up advantage over the grid.

you dive in claiming that senna had TC at donnington but it was also legendary.

I make the point that this isn't an advantage as his rival also had it.

You get abusive and claim i don't know what i'm talking about.

I prove my point

you start flinging abuse around like an epileptic pebble dasher.



P.S just for the record i've been watching F1 since 88, saw senna race, wasn't a fan. That's the problem with guessing, you're usually wrong :wave:

Edited by Boing 2, 10 September 2010 - 08:49.


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Posted 10 September 2010 - 11:54

let me take you through this by the hand as you seem to have gotten yourself a little lost.

Rosberg passes schumacher in the damp, MS fans say this means nothing because he has a wet-leaning set up.

It's pointed out that this is hypocrisy as schumacher is praised for his set up choices in similar circumstances and that one of his most famous drives was one where he had a huge set up advantage over the grid.

you dive in claiming that senna had TC at donnington but it was also legendary.

I make the point that this isn't an advantage as his rival also had it.

You get abusive and claim i don't know what i'm talking about.

I prove my point

you start flinging abuse around like an epileptic pebble dasher.



P.S just for the record i've been watching F1 since 88, saw senna race, wasn't a fan. That's the problem with guessing, you're usually wrong :wave:

Do you even read other peoples posts or just simply babble around ? Its pretty clear you're in here for a kick or two out of bashing Schumacher. I am not even a fan but I cant help but notice your one track mind.
1. Ayrton Senna had a clear car advantage over Williams in Donington Park 93, by way of his rivals fumbling on set up AND having terrible car problems. Prost in the post race interview clearly mentioned his problems with car handling, not to mention the extra time he spent in the pits. Never ever stopped it from being called as one of the great wet drives of all time.
2. Schumacher also gained in Spain 1996 from a setup advantage over his rivals

Whats peculiar to these two drivers is they managed to get these gambles right more often than not and were usually faster than their competition when it started to rain. Is this simply a factor of luck ? Or perhaps, there may be just the small little thing called judgement and talent that these 2 drivers (along with Hamilton in the present era) may have had. Its quite simply ridiculous to say either of Spain 1996 or Donnington park 93 dont go down in history as among the greatest wet weather drives of all time. Thats when people stop taking your view seriously. I am just trying to get you to open your eyes mate. Seems like I failed.

So when Schumacher gets his judgement wrong about wet weather setup, in a car which he clearly finds difficult to drive even in the dry, it does look like a valid reason to anyone who has been following the sport (especially one who claims to have been watching since 88). His track record of first class performance on a wet track is written in stone over a long career of 16 years. Which gives his fans a reasonable basis to think there is something outside his control that is not allowing him to perform as well now.

But obviously all this is going to be lost on you. Continue on your little mission to free the world from the evil clutches of admiration for Schumacher. :wave: And welcome to my ignore list

Edited by SparkPlug, 10 September 2010 - 11:55.


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Posted 10 September 2010 - 14:06

Do you even read other peoples posts or just simply babble around ? Its pretty clear you're in here for a kick or two out of bashing Schumacher.


you know kiddo, every response you've written to me has been sneering and abusive, if you're going to try and get on your high horse don't behave like a prat whilst doing it :wave:

1. Ayrton Senna had a clear car advantage over Williams in Donington Park 93, by way of his rivals fumbling on set up AND having terrible car problems. Prost in the post race interview clearly mentioned his problems with car handling, not to mention the extra time he spent in the pits. Never ever stopped it from being called as one of the great wet drives of all time.
2. Schumacher also gained in Spain 1996 from a setup advantage over his rivals


really? because the 93 mclaren was the best car on the grid? you need to go and watch that race again, Senna won because Prost made 7 pitstops while senna stayed on a wet track on slicks and made only 4. Prost also stalled in the pits due to under revving his engine, the stuff about set up problems is bullshit i'm afraid and i say that as a prost fan. If he had a badly handling car he wouldn't have come 3rd, he wouldn't have qualified on pole and he wouldn't have been 3 seconds ahead of the next non williams after a single lap.

Whats peculiar to these two drivers is they managed to get these gambles right more often than not and were usually faster than their competition when it started to rain. Is this simply a factor of luck ? Or perhaps, there may be just the small little thing called judgement and talent that these 2 drivers (along with Hamilton in the present era) may have had. Its quite simply ridiculous to say either of Spain 1996 or Donnington park 93 dont go down in history as among the greatest wet weather drives of all time. Thats when people stop taking your view seriously. I am just trying to get you to open your eyes mate. Seems like I failed.


(sneering and foot stamping doesn't open anyones eyes mate, just some friendly advice) no one here is arguing that set up isn't a skill, they are arguing about the hypocrisy of praising MS for getting it right whilst using it as an excuse when his rivals do. If you praise one man when he does it then praise others when they do to, again go and read the thread, the discussion was that rosberg 'only passed schumacher because his set up was better'. If that's your attitude then Schumacher 'only won barcelona because his set up was better' Pick a stance and stick to it, don't hop from one argument to the other just to keep your favourite driver on top.


But obviously all this is going to be lost on you. Continue on your little mission to free the world from the evil clutches of admiration for Schumacher. :wave: And welcome to my ignore list


1) Grow up
2) if you can't handle different opinions like an adult, don't go on message boards.

But then you won't have read any of this will you because you're 'ignoring me' :wave:

#5421 Levike

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 14:28

So, you know how to use google ! What else do you need other than a few Wiki links right ?
Kids these days. :rolleyes:

The Williams suffered from huge handling problems in the entire race which prevented Prost from even a half decent challenge. Not to mention his car was set up for the dry. Senna has himself acknowledged that this win wasnt special. Didnt stop it from becoming part of racing folklore.

I am guessing you are another 'I-dont-like-Schumacher-so-let-me-join-the-Senna-bandwagon-just-for-kicks' brigade whose probably not even seen him turn a wheel


That huge handling problems were the drivers... :) After the race they tried to whine a bit, but Senna replied if they want to change cars with him.... :)
When the track was drying a little bit, the Williamses were catching up at the early part of the race. Where they ****ed up were bravery and of course Senna was great in the wet.
Senna won because of this. Bravery and talent.

To be honest, that's part of racing. Could have been slip off the road while on slicks in the wet track, now it were all about how asshole he was... :)


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Posted 10 September 2010 - 16:03

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 16:22

The thing what people seem to (want to) forget, is the FACT that Schumacher used Traction control while the rest of the field DID not have it, because it was banned from the 1994 season!

So, Michael haveing it, would let him look good in wet races (now did he? Yes he did) and damp races, (yes he did) and also in speedy corners, where others could not go flat out, (yes with the help of TC, Michael could) and he was also caught using Launch control as well.... So, many of the real racers where fighting an ILLEGAL car, driven by Schumacher. Plain simple, very unfair, and wow, all his fans are so happy with those victories. (did I mention the removing of the fuel rigs in 94? How many races did he win WITH that help? No one talks, pffffft)

Schumacher the worlds most underseved world champ, and I'm putting it very nice here as well. Considered the WAY he did it. Actually a shame if you ask me.

I recommend you to read Steve Matchett's book about that season . You will find many interesting things there which could be destroy you theory "Illegal car,illegal equipment,etc,etc" :wave:

Edited by vovelo, 10 September 2010 - 16:24.


#5424 MrGBrown

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 16:25

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What an odd thing to say!!

"We feel like we're alive. again" Bit over the top isnt it?!!

#5425 merschu

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 16:38

What an odd thing to say!!

"We feel like we're alive. again" Bit over the top isnt it?!!


Might be for you! But not for those hardcore Schumi fans who thought they won't be able to see there idol on the track ever again after 2006!

#5426 arknor

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 17:43

What an odd thing to say!!

"We feel like we're alive. again" Bit over the top isnt it?!!

maybe if you have no emotions...
lots of sayings sound off if you take them word for word...

its the meaning not how its phrased

#5427 sm00th

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 17:59

This banner is from hardcore Russian fans. Very emotional one. I hope Michael will pay attention on it,people did a hard job to create,bring and put it there.

#5428 Augurk

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 18:04

What an odd thing to say!!

"We feel like we're alive. again" Bit over the top isnt it?!!

I think they just used Michael's own words. He said he felt alive again by racing again. The fans just want to say that goes for them too.

#5429 aditya-now

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 23:08

t.

Aditya, Michael have beat those guys so many times , I am sure he can't remember. For them the opposite is big event. And again :rotfl: .


And how much it hurt Michael each time he was beat by any of these guys. Because he can´t lose, as we have seen in Hungaroring. He can´t even lose a 10th place, it´s psychologically impossible for him.

As Mika Hakkinen once said, to be a real winner you have to know how to be a loser as well.


#5430 aditya-now

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 23:13

Schumacher Vs Alesi Nurburgring 1995

This is even tighter than Estoril? Yes, you usually win 7 titles without overtaking anyone.


Oooh, Michael overtook his friend Jean Alesi. How many GP did Alesi win?








One.

#5431 chrisblades85

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 23:16

Ahhh. Schumi bashers..... JEALOUS.

#5432 marchi-91

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 23:56

And how much it hurt Michael each time he was beat by any of these guys. Because he can´t lose, as we have seen in Hungaroring. He can´t even lose a 10th place, it´s psychologically impossible for him.

As Mika Hakkinen once said, to be a real winner you have to know how to be a loser as well.


and how did that turn out for Michael..
Oh wait :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

#5433 aditya-now

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 01:36

and how did that turn out for Michael..
Oh wait :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


You obviously don´t seem to understand Hakkinen´s quote. Wait for the school of life to teach you - the real winner is he who learns to lose graciously.
Michael has still not learned that lesson yet.


#5434 aditya-now

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 01:38

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Very sincere. Yet, if feeling alive depends on Michael driving in Monza again...means they must have felt dead all the time when Michael was not driving. Mind you, fan comes from fanatic.

#5435 Polle

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 02:05

Very sincere. Yet, if feeling alive depends on Michael driving in Monza again...means they must have felt dead all the time when Michael was not driving. Mind you, fan comes from fanatic.



Congrats on finally cracking the meaning on what a fan is..... Of course people lose interest when their heros retire. Oh that right, it's Schumacher! Someone get the fire extinguisher!

#5436 libano

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 02:29

You obviously don´t seem to understand Hakkinen´s quote. Wait for the school of life to teach you - the real winner is he who learns to lose graciously.
Michael has still not learned that lesson yet.


thank you for teaching us these valuable life lessons! with so much to show for in your own life i'm sure even a 7 times world champion would be glued to your lips.

a true guru.

#5437 Muz Bee

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 04:44

thank you for teaching us these valuable life lessons! with so much to show for in your own life i'm sure even a 7 times world champion would be glued to your lips.

a true guru.

If you fail to learn the lessons of history (and the wise) you are destined to keep repeating the mistakes of the past. I think some fans seem to believe it "sacrilege" not to worship their own idol. The message on the poster was sad, pathetic even. Somehow their life is incomplete without Michael racing, even if he is trundling around getting whipped by the modern quicks. Like the pathetic little "teeny-bopper" girls who used to squeal all the way through The Beatles concerts - they missed the actual main act, which actually was rather good if you appreciate music.

Aditya-now has shown plenty of respect for the past achievements of MS not to be labelled a "hater". Like him I think it's sad that Michael doesn't appreciate when the song is over.
Another session 0.6 off his team-mate's time - a yawning gulf really.

#5438 black magic

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 05:06

thank god for passionate fans rather than some of the arrogant nonesense written by some.

its a dull world where we are all so disspassionate and mature and wordly like muzza

how that poster could be seen as sad just leaves me speechless.

#5439 marchi-91

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 06:08

You obviously don´t seem to understand Hakkinen´s quote. Wait for the school of life to teach you - the real winner is he who learns to lose graciously.
Michael has still not learned that lesson yet.


Yes because in the context of motor racing this term really holds true to life.........

I'd rather have what Michael has then what Mika has.

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#5440 Polle

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 06:32

If you fail to learn the lessons of history (and the wise) you are destined to keep repeating the mistakes of the past. I think some fans seem to believe it "sacrilege" not to worship their own idol. The message on the poster was sad, pathetic even. Somehow their life is incomplete without Michael racing, even if he is trundling around getting whipped by the modern quicks. Like the pathetic little "teeny-bopper" girls who used to squeal all the way through The Beatles concerts - they missed the actual main act, which actually was rather good if you appreciate music.

Aditya-now has shown plenty of respect for the past achievements of MS not to be labelled a "hater". Like him I think it's sad that Michael doesn't appreciate when the song is over.
Another session 0.6 off his team-mate's time - a yawning gulf really.



There is just too much arrogance in this post to warrant a decent response. How a poster cheering on a driver considered sad/pathetic. Just because people have someone to believe in, doesn't mean it is a crime. I find the elitism of some of the posters who are against such passion quite irritating. There are some posters here (not naming) who assume that fans would die by their posters like war banners. These add life to the track and I see no form of sacrilege or single minded worship in there. You are just assuming so which makes me question the actual point of your post.


I'm going to make assumptions that if the poster was for Rosberg or Kov, your opinion would be the same. Maybe it is the elitist people who should learn a cue or two from their own rumblings and loosen up. So what, that he is slower than Rosberg now, people are still giving him support which just shows how much schu has given and contributed since his debut. And now fans are pathetic for doing so, or should not be supporting and undermines how .......*neutral* <sarcasm> some people think they are.

There is no middle point for Schumacher in my opinion. You either love or hate him or atleast leaning closer to one side than the other. There's just so much that has happened during his years that it is impossible to be *neutral*. Whenever someone states that their opinions on Schumacher are neutral, then gives an opinion, I call bull****.

#5441 ivand911

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 07:54

I also feel alive with F1 because Michael return. Will not comment all sad people who laugh at the banner. What to comment when they don't know what effort is to make, bring and put such banner there. This race they have another banner which is not shown here. The name is "The Finger is coming". Waiting for next banner on the next race. They make haters explode.

#5442 ivand911

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 08:19

Some pics:
http://i9.fastpic.ru...3edb97e4e97.jpg
Where are Ferrari fans? :) This is only his fans.
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#5443 Sof1

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 10:03

Very poor performance from Schu this FP3. Very big diff on his team mate.

#5444 ivand911

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 10:39

Very poor performance from Schu this FP3. Very big diff on his team mate.

You are right. I hope in Qualy diff will be smaller.


#5445 SeanValen

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 10:58

You are right. I hope in Qualy diff will be smaller.



I am expecting what has been happening all year, this car seems difficult to set up for MS at times this year, we've seen tracks like Spain, Turkey/Monaco/Spa where he has been immediately on the pace from the start, but this car like he said at times earlier in the year gives him limited set up options for his unique style of driving.

So looking at the times, clearly Schumacher is gonna have a bad weekend, his performances with this car depend on certain tracks this year, usually Monza like Canada were tracks he is meant to do well at like Spain/Spa.Monaco which he did, but again it's a odd car/tyre combination for him and certain tracks this year he hasn't found the solution, if he did, it wouldn't of been such a inconsistent year.

If he does ok in quali, great, but I think you can tell alot with MS this year in the practice sessions, at Spain he was immediately on the pace, Monaco as wlell, Canada he was so far down with no reason.

With Michael,he's either really on it or not on it with this car this year. I knew at Spa he would do well like Spain/Monaco,, but a track like Monza historically he'sa legend here, but that doesn't change the car he lept into this year, gotta be the most difficult one he's driven for himself in f1, not let alone getting back into the sport with in the no testing era.

#5446 Cheap Wine Alesi

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 11:49



Might be for you! But not for those hardcore Schumi fans who thought they won't be able to see there idol on the track ever again after 2006!

I know I have said it before, but I cannot resist. Why would any person put so much importance on a person they dont even know or who in reality doesnt matter even slightly to their lives? This is not about schumacher fanboys, but all the fanboys of various celebrities and athletes who go crazy over their "heroes." Do these people have no lives at all?


This banner is from hardcore Russian fans. Very emotional one. I hope Michael will pay attention on it,people did a hard job to create,bring and put it there.

If I was Michael, I would only laugh that some people put so much importance on me.


Congrats on finally cracking the meaning on what a fan is..... Of course people lose interest when their heros retire. Oh that right, it's Schumacher! Someone get the fire extinguisher!

I have had many of my favourite athletes retire, I havent even slightly lost interest in those sports. But of course, I dont see any athletes as heroes and would never spend hours to make a poster for them.

how that poster could be seen as sad just leaves me speechless.


okay, but explain to me why would one place such an emphasis on an athlete who has absolutely nothing to do with your life, who you know almost nothing about and who in the end doesnt care even slightly about you?
I consider it quite sad.

Some pics:
http://i9.fastpic.ru...3edb97e4e97.jpg


Another thing, why would people push against eachother like crazy, waste time, just to get a glimpse of a racing driver and to get their autograph on a piece of paper. I just dont understand it at all.


#5447 Massa_f1

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 11:59

I know I have said it before, but I cannot resist. Why would any person put so much importance on a person they dint even know or who in reality doesn't matter even slightly to their lives? This is not about Schumacher fanboys, but all the fanboys of various celebrities and athletes who go crazy over their "heroes." Do these people have no lives at all?


If I was Michael, I would only laugh that some people put so much importance on me.


I have had many of my favourite athletes retire, I havent even slightly lost interest in those sports. But of course, I dont see any athletes as heroes and would never spend hours to make a poster for them.



okay, but explain to me why would one place such an emphasis on an athlete who has absolutely nothing to do with your life, who you know almost nothing about and who in the end doesnt care even slightly about you?
I consider it quite sad.






Another thing, why would people push against eachother like crazy, waste time, just to get a glimpse of a racing driver and to get their autograph on a piece of paper. I just dont understand it at all.



Everybody is different and wanting to meet your idol or hero is just something that certain people want to do or get excited about.




#5448 aditya-now

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 12:44

Schumacher consistently slower than Rosberg and Barrichello, another disappointment!

I´ll be curious what will be his excuses this time - the error he made in sector 2?

#5449 Diablobb81

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 12:46

no error. Simply he is off 3 tenths in quali pace.

And nice of you to ignore the other Williams.

#5450 ivand911

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Posted 11 September 2010 - 12:47

Schumacher consistently slower than Rosberg and Barrichello, another disappointment!

I´ll be curious what will be his excuses this time - the error he made in sector 2?

And Hulk beat them all. They all need excuses.

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