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#7151 Jazza

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 03:12

point is, you're taking it out of context and only quote what you like from todt


Bullcrap. Its not out of context at all. Todt did say it, and if someone who was not a Schumacher fan said that they would get blasted for doing so.

If I quoted todt and then twisted it to say "look todt doesn't like MS either" (or something along those lines), then it would be out of context if I was using that quote as proof of the position I ascribed to him. However, using it in sarcasm as an example of how someone who does not hate Schumacher is saying something similar to what the so called "haters" are saying is not out of context. I have not ascribed a position to him and used a quote to support it.

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#7152 rog

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 06:27

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: are you an idiot???

He was stuck up Rosbergs diffuser for 30+ laps before Rosbergs car shat itself.



Are you stupid as usual? The first laps Rosberg had fresh tyres but was stuck behind other cars while MS had clean air until he was stuck behind Rosberg and had the softer compound, probably faster the first laps. In all circumstances Rosberg had no chance to drive as fast as MS due to his fresh tyres on lap 20-25 + clean air until his stop. Think about it.


rosberg never had clean air the whole race?



Later in the race yes, but he had the older tyres when he had clean air as I said.

Edited by rog, 24 October 2010 - 06:29.


#7153 ivand911

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 06:29

Are you stupid? The first laps Rosberg had fresh tyres but was stuck behind other cars while MS had clean air until he was stuck behind Rosberg and had the softer compound, probably faster the first laps. In all circumstances Rosberg had no chance to drive as fast as MS due to his fresh tyres on lap 20-25 + clean air until his stop.

Later in the race yes, but he had the older tyres when he had clean air as I said.

Excuses only. You were not saying this when Michael was behind.

Edited by ivand911, 24 October 2010 - 06:31.


#7154 rog

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 06:31

Excuses only. You were saying the same when Michael was behind.


No excuse. It's the truth mister excuse fanboy.

#7155 ivand911

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 06:34

No excuse. It's the truth mister excuse fanboy.

Then the same apply for all other races when Michael was behind and stuck behind other cars and Nico have clear air. And Nico were fast then, like Michal in Suzuka. Thanks.



#7156 aditya-now

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 07:19

Just looking in before my seminars - Schumacher, the rain master going off behind the safety car?

#7157 arknor

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 07:22

Just looking in before my seminars - Schumacher, the rain master going off behind the safety car?

Brundle:" schumacher seems to be the only one with his brain engaged testing the track and finding the grip levels"

#7158 Diablobb81

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 07:30

Just looking in before my seminars - Schumacher, the rain master going off behind the safety car?


So you haven't actually watched him behind the SC and have no clue what he was doing?

#7159 aditya-now

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 07:30

Brundle:" schumacher seems to be the only one with his brain engaged testing the track and finding the grip levels"


Martin being cynical... :lol:

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#7160 arknor

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 07:36

Martin being cynical... :lol:

doubt it were used to hearing how schumacher is usually the one going over the limit in practice sessions on purpose and he stuck one down the inside of trulli after that off obviously testing the grip off the racing line

#7161 aditya-now

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 07:47

Nice moves by Schumi and Rosberg - do the Merc have rain set-up? Probably their understeery nature helps them

#7162 ivand911

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:00

Not 1994 again please. Can we change the year. 1995 perhaps?

Edited by ivand911, 24 October 2010 - 09:01.


#7163 Wade

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:02

1 place off a podium...not bad. Job well done Schumi!

#7164 Urawa

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:03

Got the maximum out of it again today. The top cars were too fast sadly.

Edited by Urawa, 24 October 2010 - 09:04.


#7165 Diablobb81

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:04

Not 1994 again please. Can we change the year. 1995 perhaps?


No, now we talk about 1997. After the next good race we talk about Monaco 2006. After that we start over again.

#7166 ivand911

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:07

Got the maximum out of it again today. The top cars were too fast sadly.

After he put inters he was loosing 1 sec in middle sector. I think he just conserve his tyres, because we see how other started to drop. Maybe he secure his 9th place in WDC today.

Edited by ivand911, 24 October 2010 - 09:08.


#7167 Massa_f1

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:07

After small doubts i have to say i think Michael still has it he simply needs a better car and am sure he can battle for race wins.

#7168 7timesbetterthantherest

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:08

Nice drive by Michael :up:

Put on some nice moves over Kubica and Button ... not bad for a 41 year old .....

GO Michael ! :up:

#7169 RedBaron

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:10

Schumacher was great, second race in a row he's done very well and made progress with overtakes instead of dropping back. He's getting on top of things now, finally. Really good moves today in very dodgy conditions on some top drivers who are meant to be most feared in those conditions!

#7170 salamin

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:10

2 great overtakes, and yeah a lot of luck, but it was about time with the merc strategie **** ups this year

#7171 arknor

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:13

Martin being cynical... :lol:

you of little faith ! :up:

#7172 Sof1

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:15

Great race from MSC. His wet race skills are still intact even with an inferior car.

#7173 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:19

I think this performance (as well as Suzuka) has demonstrated that he has more than justified his place in F1. He's still a very competent F1 driver - maybe not as good as he once was - and better than a lot of other drivers on the grid.

Bravo Michael :up:

Bravo Felipe :up:

Bravo Fernando :up:

Bravo Lewis :up:

#7174 PoliFanAthic

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:24

As at the beginning of the season, the most significant difference which would've impeded him in beating Rosberg under normal conditions was established in the problematic qualifying sessions.

MGP said they had rain setup, so that has to be why the performance dropped after the switch to inters.

#7175 SchumiP1

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:25

Strong moves he pulled on Kubica and Button. Got the absolute maximum out of it, and podium wasn't impossible in the end.
Keep it up!

#7176 Spa95

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:27

MGP said they had rain setup, so that has to be why the performance dropped after the switch to inters.

Where did they say that?

#7177 Wilgot

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:30

Solid race by Michael, very entertaining in the beginning when the track was at its wettest. You could see him starting to fall back as soon as it started to dry up. Let's hope for rain in Brazil too!

#7178 ivand911

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:34

Where did they say that?

On RTL they say when race was stopped that they make some changes(on brakes mainly) to the setup for more wet track. But, I can't say it was generally wet setup.


#7179 Urawa

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:36

Looking at the layout of Brazil he should be a little stronger again, more like Suzuka

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#7180 teejay

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:38

Not bad today from the old boy.

#7181 fatfreddie

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:58

Well done Michael. :up:
I was so hoping he´d make the podium. Maybe next time.

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:59

Nico could have won the race. :well:

NR overtook Lewis just before crashing, which was ahead od Alonso in the restart after the tire change for inters round.

Edited by DarthRonzo, 24 October 2010 - 10:01.


#7183 Konsta

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 10:04

I know this is MS thread but it seems silly how some people conveniently forget that a part of Michael´s good result were due to Webber´s ability to control a racing car. Yes, Michael collected but...

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 10:05

I know this is MS thread but it seems silly how some people conveniently forget that a part of Michael´s good result were due to Webber´s ability to control a racing car. Yes, Michael collected but...


But he overtook two cars and made no mistakes...


#7185 RedBaron

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 10:06

Nico could have won the race. :well:

NR overtook Lewis just before crashing, which was ahead od Alonso in the restart after the tire change for inters round.



Hmmm, he couldn't have... both Mercedes made BIG setup changes on the grid for a wet track, which is why once the track dried more Schumacher wasn't really making up ground on the big teams up ahead.

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 10:07

I know this is MS thread but it seems silly how some people conveniently forget that a part of Michael´s good result were due to Webber´s ability to control a racing car. Yes, Michael collected but...



Your point is ?? Your acting like its not normal for people to move up a place when the person in front has an issue ... Dont come in here trying to troll.. Alonso Hamilton and Massa also benefitted from others misfortune today .. Do you want to take a bash over at their threads ?
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#7187 merschu

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 10:07

Nico could have won the race. :well:

NR overtook Lewis just before crashing, which was ahead od Alonso in the restart after the tire change for inters round.



This complete statement is irrelevant to this thread which loudly calls itself "Michael Schumacher" thread. You should go and post this on N.R thread.

Edited by merschu, 24 October 2010 - 10:15.


#7188 RedBaron

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 10:09

I know this is MS thread but it seems silly how some people conveniently forget that a part of Michael´s good result were due to Webber´s ability to control a racing car. Yes, Michael collected but...



Schumacher didn't make a mistake, Webber did... (Forget Rosberg was taken out, we can meet in the middle there)

Are you going to go into every driver thread and moan about every single driver who performed well and point out how they gain a place because Webber made an error all on his own and crashed out?

#7189 Spa95

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 10:12

I refuse to believe that MGP did any huge setup changes for wet conditions (certainly not any more than any other team). MS pace actually got better towards the end of the race and it looked more like he saved his intermediates right after his stop to have an advantage towards the end of the race. Most cars around him got slower in the last few laps - only FA and LH were faster.

#7190 JPW

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 10:57

Not bad today from the old boy.

Yes he did very well, the car is improving Michael is finding his form again so with the Pirellis and the MGP car a bit more to his liking 2011 could prove to an awesome year. :up:

#7191 cheapracer

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 15:12

I know this is MS thread but it seems silly how some people conveniently forget that a part of Michael´s good result were due to Webber´s ability to control a racing car. Yes, Michael collected but...


I can't quite work out this idiototic post ... So it's Webber's fault that Schumacher displayed superior skill over Webber and didn't make a mistake like he did or something??? :confused:

I am also willing to share on the rape of the alternate Earth's goodies if you let me in on the secret of how to get there being as you have access and all to alternate dimensions viewing the way events turn out there ......


#7192 cheapracer

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 15:24

Nice moves by Schumi and Rosberg - do the Merc have rain set-up? Probably their understeery nature helps them


aditya now?? Someone call Mulder, aditya now has been kidnapped by aliens!!

I can tell because this is a really good 'well sounded in logic' post of the highest order.



#7193 F1 Tor.

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 15:28

I know this is MS thread but it seems silly how some people conveniently forget that a part of Michael´s good result were due to Webber´s ability to control a racing car. Yes, Michael collected but...


yes, just Michael collected. No one else. :rolleyes: It's the usual crap from people. If he does poorly, he's crap, if he does well it's either the car or he 'collected' due to the faults of others. How about he's had a very disappointing season but drove a great race today. Is that so hard to type???


#7194 ivand911

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 15:43

Can somebody imagine what would happen if Michael hit today somebody like Webber hit Nico? Preferably Rubens. Such thing could be epic, Michael will be Public Enemy number 1 again. But, when it is Webber there is not problem? Double standards?


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Posted 24 October 2010 - 15:50

Nico could have won the race. :well:

NR overtook Lewis just before crashing, which was ahead od Alonso in the restart after the tire change for inters round.


Nico could have won the race? So could Yamamoto if everybody else crashed out.

Besides, it is Nico's fault that Mark Webber's race finished, if he wasn't there then Mark wouldn't have hit him. So there, Nico's fault that both are out of the race(!)

#7196 arknor

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 15:51

Can somebody imagine what would happen if Michael hit today somebody like Webber hit Nico? Preferably Rubens. Such thing could be epic, Michael will be Public Enemy number 1 again. But, when it is Webber there is not problem? Double standards?

people just accept webber is likely to take someone out these days

#7197 cheapracer

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 16:10

How about he's had a very disappointing season but drove a great race today. Is that so hard to type???


But they would have to buy new keyboards .... :lol:

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Edited by cheapracer, 24 October 2010 - 16:13.


#7198 r4mses

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 16:26

Nico could have won the race? So could Yamamoto if everybody else crashed out.

Besides, it is Nico's fault that Mark Webber's race finished, if he wasn't there then Mark wouldn't have hit him. So there, Nico's fault that both are out of the race(!)


lol. a) totally off-topic b) totally nonsense.

back on topic: gj by MSC today. would've loved to see him end up on the podium as 3rd.

#7199 ivand911

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 16:35

But they would have to buy new keyboards .... :lol:

This is great keyboard.


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#7200 Konsta

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 16:38

yes, just Michael collected. No one else. :rolleyes: It's the usual crap from people. If he does poorly, he's crap, if he does well it's either the car or he 'collected' due to the faults of others. How about he's had a very disappointing season but drove a great race today. Is that so hard to type???

No problemo. Michael did well today. I´d say that if Webbo could´ve driven like all the other big guns, Michael would´ve ended up in P6 tops. There are more than a few posters who are so blindly in love with all things MS that hey are already blaming Nico for the incident and thus hoping that this will somehow glorify their beloved race driver :confused:

Well, IMHO Michael has at best been quite alright this season and at worst embarrassing - his younger teammate has probably against expectations beaten him fair and square. I personally found Norby´s comments about the machinery not having been equal downright obnoxious.

Edited by Konsta, 24 October 2010 - 16:39.