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#7201 Konsta

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 16:38

yes, just Michael collected. No one else. :rolleyes: It's the usual crap from people. If he does poorly, he's crap, if he does well it's either the car or he 'collected' due to the faults of others. How about he's had a very disappointing season but drove a great race today. Is that so hard to type???

No problemo. Michael did well today. I´d say that if Webbo could´ve driven like all the other big guns, Michael would´ve ended up in P6 tops. There are more than a few posters who are so blindly in love with all things MS that hey are already blaming Nico for the incident and thus hoping that this will somehow glorify their beloved race driver :confused:

Well, IMHO Michael has at best been quite alright this season and at worst embarrassing - his younger teammate has probably against expectations beaten him fair and square. I personally found Norby´s comments about the machinery not having been equal downright obnoxious.

Edited by Konsta, 24 October 2010 - 16:39.


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#7202 Massa_f1

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 16:56

Can somebody imagine what would happen if Michael hit today somebody like Webber hit Nico? Preferably Rubens. Such thing could be epic, Michael will be Public Enemy number 1 again. But, when it is Webber there is not problem? Double standards?



Id go more down the road of what if Micheal had put in a performance like Button. He would of been slated and told to retire for the millionth time this year.

#7203 cheapracer

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 16:58

I´d say that if Webbo could´ve driven like all the other big guns,


Whats your problem? Can you actually move to a world of reality?

The race is finished, Webber crashed, Rosberg crashed, Vettle blew up - it's the same story there and about for every single GP thats been run in the entire history of the sport - get over it.

Did you see the "Is Kubica is the best driver" thread? Thats the Guy who Schumacher breezed past today and then the current WDC, I guess that was all luck as well you troll.


By the way, I got some keyboards on sale ..... :lol:


#7204 DarthRonzo

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 17:00

This complete statement is irrelevant to this thread which loudly calls itself "Michael Schumacher" thread. You should go and post this on N.R thread.

The quote means MS got a good result as a survivor, but his Mercedes could have achieved higher grounds, like Nico proved.

#7205 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 17:01

lol. a) totally off-topic b) totally nonsense.

back on topic: gj by MSC today. would've loved to see him end up on the podium as 3rd.



I was of course jesting.

#7206 cheapracer

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 17:03

The quote means MS got a good result as a survivor, but his Mercedes could have achieved higher grounds, like Nico proved.


Whats your problem? Can you actually move to a world of reality?

The race is finished, Webber crashed, Rosberg crashed, Vettle blew up - it's the same story there and about for every single GP thats been run in the entire history of the sport - get over it.

Did you see the "Is Kubica is the best driver" thread? Thats the Guy who Schumacher breezed past today and then the current WDC, I guess that was all luck as well you troll.

By the way, I got some keyboards on sale .....


This quote today from the poster known only as BEYOND who apparently has a keyboard with no caps or shift provision...

rosberg retired after only 1 lap and a half. how can anyone say he was "on fire", he was challenging for the win etc. he did the very same schumi did that lap, drive fast and overtake one driver. other speculations about what he could have done, based on vague hypotesis with no support, are pointless. both mercs did very good at the start and were clearly very fast in the early stages, then schumi lost ground with the track drying so i think similar would happen to rosberg. but at the time they were on track, a very short time anyway, they were both excellent, so saying that rosberg was on another level today and stuff like that, are not proved neither based on anything valueble

Edited by cheapracer, 24 October 2010 - 17:07.


#7207 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 17:03

The quote means MS got a good result as a survivor, but his Mercedes could have achieved higher grounds, like Nico proved.


Such as? Mercedes' podiums came in the first half of the season; since then they've gone backward compared to the top 3.

How would anything higher than a 4th position been possible today? Let me guess though, according to your logic, Rosberg would have lapped the entire field 3 times over, gone for a toilet break and still won the race?

#7208 ivand911

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 17:05

The quote means MS got a good result as a survivor, but his Mercedes could have achieved higher grounds, like Nico proved.

They could get better result in Australia too if Alonso/Button didn't hit Michael. Michael was 4 places infront of Nico in the first corner. In Valencia the same thing Michael 3rd before team made their biggest mistake in 2010. And other races the same picture. Monaco. Canada(problem with Kubica when he was 5th, Nico out of top 10)

Edited by ivand911, 24 October 2010 - 17:07.


#7209 cheapracer

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 17:09

They could get better result in Australia too if Alonso/Button didn't hit Michael. Michael was 4 places infront of Nico in the first corner. In Valencia the same thing Michael 3rd before team made their biggest mistake in 2010. And other races the same picture. Monaco. Canada(problem with Kubica when he was 5th, Nico out of top 10)


He is refering to today not the whole season which makes his comment even more daft that what you saw into it.


#7210 SeanValen

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 17:13

It seems MS is well known in North Korea, good to see him being a major player in the race for some entertainment.


Good to see some back to back consistency on 2 very challenging weekends, Suzuka challenge and North Korea. North Korea will go down as a epic gp, he can be proud of his part in it.

Now we have Brazil next, a track MS has driven and done very well in from the past. Qualifying eludes him this year, be it car set up comprimises, or concentrating on race knowing the car characteristics with its tyre is not going to bring out the best of him this year so he's making comprimises in set up to maximise other areas he may feel comfortable at. Fast corners are not the problem, the slow corners are, that's what Brawn said earlier in the year, it's odd to lose time in slow corners, but that's been his story this year.

Brazil is quite a landmark for MS, scene of his epic last ferrari drive in 2006, never thought he would return here. We are having a great end to this season.

#7211 ivand911

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 17:21

It seems MS is well known in North Korea, good to see him being a major player in the race for some entertainment.


Good to see some back to back consistency on 2 very challenging weekends, Suzuka challenge and North Korea. North Korea will go down as a epic gp, he can be proud of his part in it.

Now we have Brazil next, a track MS has driven and done very well in from the past. Qualifying eludes him this year, be it car set up comprimises, or concentrating on race knowing the car characteristics with its tyre is not going to bring out the best of him this year so he's making comprimises in set up to maximise other areas he may feel comfortable at. Fast corners are not the problem, the slow corners are, that's what Brawn said earlier in the year, it's odd to lose time in slow corners, but that's been his story this year.

Brazil is quite a landmark for MS, scene of his epic last ferrari drive in 2006, never thought he would return here. We are having a great end to this season.

South Korea? or just Korea.


#7212 SparkPlug

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 17:26

But they would have to buy new keyboards .... :lol:

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Golden ! :lol:
One of the funniest posts I've ever read !

#7213 SeanValen

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 17:27

South Korea? or just Korea.



Just say Korea.

I think it' a bit true that some of them may still think Schumacher is at Ferrari. Schumacher's stint with ferrar reached alot of people around the world who didn't follow f1 normally, or just being aware of it, his name is big enough in some parts to be connected with f1 for them, if you saw the bbc korea previews, the koreans were menstioning schumacher even when shown faces of other drivers in the title hunt, Schuey's name they know.


But they would have to buy new keyboards .... :lol:

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This is amazing, I saw the picture at first without looking at it in detail, it passed me by, looked again and I have to wait, if you made it, it's the best work of art for forumers of f1 in relation to Schumacher that's ever been posted on these forums in the last 10 years since I've been here.

Great work, very funny and talent well applied in Schumacher like fashion.


:up: :up: :up: :smoking:

Golden ! :lol:
One of the funniest posts I've ever read !



:up: SparkPlug Legend :smoking:

Edited by SeanValen, 24 October 2010 - 17:32.


#7214 arknor

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 17:34

do north korea even get to see the race ? i'd assume they dont allow south korea stuff on TV?

but anyway Kim Jong-il has privately stated his admiration of rubens barrichello

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 17:42

But, when it is Webber there is not problem? Double standards?


Not really. Webber couldn't really do much about it.

Great drive from Michael. More the old Schumacher.

#7216 Lifew12

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 17:43

Besides, it is Nico's fault that Mark Webber's race finished, if he wasn't there then Mark wouldn't have hit him.


I think he'd already she half the car when he hit the first fence, to be fair.


#7217 ivand911

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 17:44

Not really. Webber couldn't really do much about it.

Great drive from Michael. More the old Schumacher.

He can brake. There was no need to cross the track this way.


#7218 Lifew12

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 17:45

He can brake. There was no need to cross the track this way.


I really hope you're not being serious Ivan, so I'm not going to bother to pass any further comment.

#7219 ivand911

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 17:47


Check this, his car was not so much damaged ,and he even can continue racing if he just turn around car better.

Edited by ivand911, 24 October 2010 - 17:48.


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#7220 Scotracer

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 17:58


Check this, his car was not so much damaged ,and he even can continue racing if he just turn around car better.


Don't be silly. If you saw the crash from the opposite angle you would have seen the right front wheel dangling in the air before Nico hit him - that means his left-rear suspension had collapsed.

#7221 Ruf

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 18:06

He can brake. There was no need to cross the track this way.

One can argue that Rosberg could have done the same thing, in adition to making good use of his steering wheel. His car was not pointing in the wrong direction afterall.

#7222 ivand911

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 18:11

Don't be silly. If you saw the crash from the opposite angle you would have seen the right front wheel dangling in the air before Nico hit him - that means his left-rear suspension had collapsed.

OK , but he still can brake and stay there? I think.


#7223 ivand911

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 18:17

One can argue that Rosberg could have done the same thing, in adition to making good use of his steering wheel. His car was not pointing in the wrong direction afterall.

I think like that too, we discussed it in the other thread(NvsM). Nico could try to avoid him with slowing or even stopping. He have time to react(4sec from Webber hitting the wall to Nico hitting him).

Edited by ivand911, 24 October 2010 - 18:27.


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Posted 24 October 2010 - 18:20

But they would have to buy new keyboards .... :lol:

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haha Superb!

#7225 ivand911

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 18:31

cheapracer will sell a lot of keyboards.

#7226 Muz Bee

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 19:01

I really hope you're not being serious Ivan, so I'm not going to bother to pass any further comment.

:up: My thoughts indeed. A real armchair that boy....

#7227 DarthRonzo

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 19:04

Don't get me wrong guys.

Lazarus... I mean Schumy... did well today, but Rosberg has done better.

#7228 ivand911

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 19:13

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#7229 arknor

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 19:27

Don't get me wrong guys.

Lazarus... I mean Schumy... did well today, but Rosberg has done better.

today? dont think so rest is history.

track was drying and both had wet setups so its unlikely either would have had the speed for higher than 4th

#7230 Wade

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 00:34

Any video of Schumi's overtake on Kubica/Button?

#7231 exmayol

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 02:13

Solid race for Michael. Looking forward to Brazil! Couple more top 6 finishes will definitely serve as a good message to the stubborn people living in denial claiming he has no place in F1.

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 02:14

I think even the most passionate antis have now realised he is easily up to standard for a place in a team like merc. Oh how the tone changes over a few weeks eh.

#7233 Craven Morehead

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 03:34

Yep, a fine drive by Michael today. :up:

Looking good for 2011, I'd say.

#7234 black magic

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 04:11

fascinating that even for a 7 x wdc nothing like a little bit of confidence to get the mojo working again

interesting that happened at what will be 3 of the tougher circuits, and certainly with yesterdays conditions korea would rank up there

#7235 ViMaMo

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 04:34

Glad the old dog came back from a crap season to take a very deserving 4th place. MS is on a roll, seems like things are finally shining for him.



#7236 Polle

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 06:47

Nice passing on the wets. Totally different Schu from China this year.

#7237 SchumiP1

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 06:48

Any video of Schumi's overtake on Kubica/Button?

I've yet to find footage of Schumi going past Kubica, but here's the classic maneuver he pulled on Button: click

#7238 ivand911

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 07:05

Nice passing on the wets. Totally different Schu from China this year.

He was surprised with wet tyre behavior in China(his style finish them quickly). And he did everything yesterday not to repeat it. He show that he learn about tyres, and he kept his inters best yesterday. Even if his speed suffer from this. If he was pushing after Massa I guess his tyres would gone for 10 laps maybe. I really don't like this type of racing, to preserve tyres? What is this? But, this is modern F1. I like 3 stint races, you use tyre to the maximum and race to the maximum. Now you keep your tyres. Stupid. Hopes for good race in Brazil. Still there is two slow corners 8th and 10th which could be a problem. And they will use again super soft/medium compound which is not very preferable.

Edited by ivand911, 25 October 2010 - 07:43.


#7239 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 07:37

there are only 2 slow corners and he could get away with them. the cars will be set up for the fast section anyway
he's always been quite fast on traditional circuits and brazil is a classical one.
mercedes seem to have picked up their game and michael seems to have picked up his.


what tyres are bridgestone bringing in brazil?

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#7240 SpeedyS

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 08:07

MS proved something to me today, in the wet he was able to keep up with massa which gives me hope that with a compeditive car which has been designed with his imput he has got a chance of challenging the younger guys. I will retain hope. I was at the race and it was great to see him fighting with the faster cars.

#7241 Scotracer

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 08:23

Nice passing on the wets. Totally different Schu from China this year.


Well if you look at the attitude of his car in China you could visibly see the problems with it - it had no rear end grip...at all. And if you can see which end of the car is sliding more, from a trackside camera, you know you have a problem. Something was terribly wrong with that W01 in China.




#7242 britishtrident

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 08:27

MS proved something to me today, in the wet he was able to keep up with massa which gives me hope that with a compeditive car which has been designed with his imput he has got a chance of challenging the younger guys. I will retain hope. I was at the race and it was great to see him fighting with the faster cars.


Trouble is Rosberg proved much more, if not for Webber collecting Rosberg on rebound Merc would probably have had a solid podium and MS would have bee one place down the order.

#7243 Hacklerf

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 08:27

Welcome back Michael, it is good to see the man back in charge of the car, cant wait for Brazil! Go Michael

#7244 ivand911

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 08:32

Trouble is Rosberg proved much more, if not for Webber collecting Rosberg on rebound Merc would probably have had a solid podium and MS would have bee one place down the order.

It is like only Nico have bad luck this year????? And you still come here in Michael thread to tell us that he is better. I think there is thread for this(Nico Vs Michael) and I strongly advise Nico fans finally to start his thread. Not to come here to discuss Nico affairs.

Edited by ivand911, 25 October 2010 - 08:36.


#7245 Hacklerf

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 08:35

Also, has anyone got a high res pic of Schumacher's helmet design? im trying to colour match it to paint a wall, and i took Autosport to the shop on Saturday but they couldn't match it, they said that if i could get a solid 1 inch square of the colour, then i could email the paint company online with it, i haven't been able to find a suitable pic yet tho

#7246 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 08:54

Brazil should be good for Schumacher too, it has long sweeping fast corners that don't hurt the front tyres (like Spain, Turkey, Spa, Suzuka etc) and he should have another good showing there too.

I don't know what Abu Dhabi will be like for the Mercedes, I suspect they'll be fifth fastest car there.

#7247 SpeedyS

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 08:56

Trouble is Rosberg proved much more, if not for Webber collecting Rosberg on rebound Merc would probably have had a solid podium and MS would have bee one place down the order.


Yes NR was good, in fact I would say he was great in Qual.

#7248 ivand911

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 09:18

Also, has anyone got a high res pic of Schumacher's helmet design? im trying to colour match it to paint a wall, and i took Autosport to the shop on Saturday but they couldn't match it, they said that if i could get a solid 1 inch square of the colour, then i could email the paint company online with it, i haven't been able to find a suitable pic yet tho

Try this website:
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#7249 Hacklerf

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 09:23

Thanks ivand911, i appreciate it, i will email to the paint company

#7250 Number62

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 09:33

I don't think MSC drove a great race at Korea. I think he drove a good race, or 'solid' as some others have described it.

I think he showed skill and bravery at the beginning but from then on he didn't really beat anyone on merit that he wouldn't be expected to in the MGP (with the exception of the clearly out of sorts McLaren of Button).

He did however keep it on the track and get to the end which deserves plaudits and is more than some of his peers managed. Webber is the only one among the 'top' drivers to self induce his own race end though.

For me there's nothing to suggest this is a turning point in performance or form, just a 'solid' race.