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#8651 Raelene

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 19:16

I'm still waiting for Michael to retire and blame his neck

In fact I'm still waiting for Michael to blame his neck full stop

I mean, that's what we were told by a lot of the trolls before he even had his first race in his comeback :rotfl: :rotfl:

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#8652 ivand911

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 19:28

Michael interview for Gala magazine: There were moments when I was helpless
http://translate.goo...ilflos-war.html
http://www.gala.de/s...ilflos-war.html

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#8653 Sakae

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 11:44

I'm still waiting for Michael to retire and blame his neck

In fact I'm still waiting for Michael to blame his neck full stop

I mean, that's what we were told by a lot of the trolls before he even had his first race in his comeback :rotfl: :rotfl:

I know you are joking, and any statement of that kind would create tsunami, but raw fact is, that some remnants of some injuries never go away. He might, on occassions, feel it without going public; who knows? While we are at, this is why I also think that Kubica's future is not as certain as some think in here. He had one or two nasty incidents already, and human body can take only so much before it will tell you - no more!

Edited by Sakae, 02 March 2011 - 11:48.


#8654 F1 Tor.

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 12:09

Schumacher will win in 2011 .... I'm sure he will be hunting for the title this year ... fingers crossed ..

He's going to prove he's STILL the best racer on the face of the planet .... just a little bit older

Go Schumi ! :up:



I like your enthusiasm, but why don't we start with some consistent podium finishes then take it from there? :) It's a long season and I personally think the title is a bit of a stretch, but, then again, you never know. That first race will tell us a lot.

#8655 Frans

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 13:07

I like your enthusiasm, but why don't we start with some consistent podium finishes then take it from there?


I think they already can be very very happy if he manages more top 10 finishes than 2010. :rotfl:

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 12:56

I think they already can be very very happy if he manages more top 10 finishes than 2010. :rotfl:

It all depend where in top 10 he will finish, at the top or at the bottom.


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Posted 03 March 2011 - 13:07

10th place would be MORE than enough.... if he's lucky to get there.

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 14:15

10th place would be MORE than enough.... if he's lucky to get there.


Yep franz, but 10th place is still better than the gravel pit for Vercrasheren isn't it? Oh wait, he had to leave F1 because of that :blush:

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 17:06

I've heard the stories about how his Dad got him started in karting on not much more than a hope and a prayer.


Having both parents working at the local Kart circuit was a huge bonus. Anthony Hamilton wouldn't have said no to that as his 4th job ;)

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#8660 Mr2s

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 17:08

Alonso seems to be saying a lot of nice things about MSC these days ! :)

http://supersport.co...ect_its_Michael


Looks like Alonso has written him off. You'll find that fierce rivals say almost nothing of the sort about each other whilst the rivalry is on going.

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 17:28

Looks like Alonso has written him off. You'll find that fierce rivals say almost nothing of the sort about each other whilst the rivalry is on going.


I do not know whether your theory is correct or not, but surely he gave him more respect than Hamilton. Button, and Petrov, just to name a few. Some of the comments I heard from those throats made me loose respect, or whatever was left, for everyone of them.

Edited by Sakae, 03 March 2011 - 17:30.


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Posted 03 March 2011 - 17:42

Having both parents working at the local Kart circuit was a huge bonus. Anthony Hamilton wouldn't have said no to that as his 4th job ;)

he needed 4 jobs? werent mclaren already paying for everything when hamilton was around 6 years old?

schumacher didnt have it easy either...

When Schumacher was four, his father modified his pedal kart by adding a small motorcycle engine. When Schumacher crashed it into a lamp post in Kerpen, his parents took him to the karting track at Kerpen-Horrem, where he became the youngest member of the karting club. His father soon built him a kart from discarded parts and at the age of six Schumacher won his first club championship. To support his son's racing, Rolf Schumacher took on a second job renting and repairing karts, while his wife worked at the track's canteen. Nevertheless, when Schumacher needed a new engine costing 800 DM, his parents were unable to afford it; Michael was able to continue racing with support from local businessmen.[



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Posted 03 March 2011 - 23:06

I can only see him quitting if he's consistently 0.5+ behind Rosberg, or the car is an uber donkey, reaching July without ever making Q2.

Like last year but worse? I doubt that bad but to start equalling the Q times of his quick teammate would be much needed. Some of the acclaim given to his comeback drives by his fans are a little wide of the mark. He was well beaten by Rosberg so he needs to lift his performance by 0.5 - which in pure driver terms, is a lot. Maybe the work ethic will be enough but somehow I think either the current era doesn't suit him or he has lost the edge he had. I actually think his best years from 1995 to about 2002 were blunted by having such a dominant car for several years so that when Alonso came on with a pretty decent Renault he had lost that last 0.1 or so. Time will tell.

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 23:27

I see on the front of the Autosport mag it says Schu is not happy. I have not read the magazine yet am just going off the front cover on autosport.com Does anyone know why he is not happy?

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 05:27

I see on the front of the Autosport mag it says Schu is not happy. I have not read the magazine yet am just going off the front cover on autosport.com Does anyone know why he is not happy?


Becaus Autosport had to write about something. Brawn stated last night on bbc radio it is a load of bull.


#8666 Polle

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 05:34

Its Autosport, duh! :yawnface:

Like any gossipy publication on movie stars, you got to write something that will undoubtedly cause attention or divide thoughts to sell more magazines.

#8667 steveninthematrix

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 05:37

its really very simple,

Michael is the only-driver who wants a over-steery car, with loads of HP...

Michael retired when F1 cars had 940hp+, and sticky wide big front tires, allowing to setup for over-steery and using the throttle to balance it out.

the one Ferrari car he drove which didn't do this as readily was in 2003, and the season and the closeness of Barrichello in that season speaks for itself. now, with what I'm hoping are more sticky better gripper pirelli tires, I expect MS to move near the front. more HP would have been helpful, F1 is becoming like playstation.

by 2014 and 650 HP, 200 less than nascar and 150 less than indycar, F1 will, after 25 years, becoming just too sterile for me...

#8668 FigJam

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 06:22

Without trying to be OT but for the sake of accuracy;
Points: NH 13, JV 7
Finished ahead: NH 7, JV 3
Best Finish: NH 4, JV 6
Hardly "constantly getting the better of"
However, Heidfeld did say that JV was as good as RK and the rest of '06 proved that.


I notice you omitted the qualifying results.

Bottom line - there was very, very little between Heidfeld and Villeneuve. Same with Villeneuve and Massa the year before, yet Villeneuve was the one that got torched by the press and paddock alike.

Go figure. He'd obviously already used up all his goodwill, I guess MS still has plenty to fall back on now.

#8669 metz

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 14:05

No points for qualifying.
Since JV beat NH in qualy 7/5, meaning JV started ahead more often, makes the results even more significant.

But you are correct. JV was one of the best, right to the end.
Had he only not taken that BAR adventure.
His career would have been completely different.
It might have mirrored Schumacher's.
We all know that the talent you have has little to do with the ride you get.
Renault knew he still had it. Sauber also knew he still had it.
I don't know why the media portrayed him as a has-been.

Edited by metz, 04 March 2011 - 14:22.


#8670 ivand911

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 14:05

Write your own Schumis Sekret Blog.... by Ad1210 from planet-f1 forum:
http://forum.planet-...g...mp;start=0

"I was bored today so I decided to try my hand at a Sekret blog entry. Its no patch on whoever writes the Pf1 one but it kept me occupied for 1\2 and hour-"

"Hello my Festive Silver Arrowlets,
As I am writing this, I am well full of Christmas cheer, although not thanks to the company I am keeping over the festive break. Since I am busy answering questions about my greatness and sending gift baskets to Stirling Von Moss (As a little joke, I am including a pair of glasses so he might see where the lift is not), Pudgie Wudgie Donut Leiblings is writing the guest list for our Christmas day cracker. This is getting me slightly troubled with the family as she is inviting Ralfie, whom I am doing much fence mending with this past year, but not Mrs Ralf (Formally known to my tifosis as ‘the crow’ but in the interest of brotherly loving, I am refraining from calling). Much naturally and obviously, this is raising a rabble in Schloss Schumi on Christmas morn just as I am opening my first Bitburger for the day and talking to the big fella about my winning in 2011. As mellowing I am in my winter years, I am playing peacemaker so that we can all enjoy the day but I am about as successful at this as Eddie Irvine is at abstinence or Woobens is as going through a race weekend without moaning.

...continued"

Edited by Buttoneer, 05 March 2011 - 15:35.
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Posted 04 March 2011 - 15:03

by 2014 and 650 HP, 200 less than nascar and 150 less than indycar,

If that goes ahead it will be truly sad and pathetic. One of the things people love is the extremity of performance and peak of engineering, with the finest drivers using their skill to control and exploit those features.

Rallying lost Group B 25 years ago and ever since has become progressively more dumbed down, mundane and unspectacular. Now the WRC is barely clinging to life, with dwindling public following and little manufacturer interest.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 18:24

Rallying lost Group B 25 years ago and ever since has become progressively more dumbed down,


Don't know how these latest cars are but WRC was technically superior to Group B in just about every sense but raw power. A modern WRC car would absolutely annihilate Group B car on stage despite having half the power.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 18:43

Yes, of course, just as a current 750hp F1 car would crush a 1980s 1200hp car, but my point is that Group B was pushing the limit of technologyfor it's time, and further away from what the public could see/access in 'normal' life than the latest WRC is.

Today you can buy a hot hatch for £18k that's nearly as fast as a WRC car, and they don't look much different either. Back in 1985 a fire breathing Quattro S1 or T16 was a thing of awe, and the road going versions were as rare as hens teeth.

I just think the absolute pinnacle of motorsport shouldn't be beconing tamer and a less impressive spectacle by the year. Of course you need a limit, but I see no harm in 900-1000hp.

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 08:32

Pirelli says tyres not designed for Schumi
http://www.yallaf1.c.....8YallaF1.com)
Ooh, noo, he is doomed. :rotfl:

Will the Schumacher comeback project get back on track in 2011?
http://www.f1fanatic...7/schumacher-2/

Edited by ivand911, 07 March 2011 - 09:00.


#8675 Sakae

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 10:12

Schumacher's liking or not, tires of 2011 will be nuisance; terrible product,terrible idea,terrible races.There is nothing more to say about it.

Edited by Sakae, 07 March 2011 - 10:14.


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Posted 07 March 2011 - 10:27

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comedy or drama?? :drunk:

#8677 Clatter

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 11:22

Schumacher's liking or not, tires of 2011 will be nuisance; terrible product,terrible idea,terrible races.There is nothing more to say about it.


There's plenty more to say, not least waiting until the racing actually starts before making any assumption on how good or bad the races might be.

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 12:59

Some of us can visualize and conceptualize race character, including pitfalls teams will face.
Alonso does not like the tire-lottery, I do not like it as well, regardless if some posters need "evidence".

I for one do not require evidence for having concerns that my driver can get potentially stuck due to an extra pit stop behind fourth tier team, thus loosing track position, points and championship. It would be rather foolish to think that tires shall wear on all cars the same way, regardless of who is piloting the car. Undoubtedly tire will handicap the races, and DEFINITELY not evenly for all cars and all teams. As a fan I think it is unfair, objectionable and unappealing.

Edited by Sakae, 07 March 2011 - 14:45.


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Posted 07 March 2011 - 13:12

If that goes ahead it will be truly sad and pathetic. One of the things people love is the extremity of performance and peak of engineering, with the finest drivers using their skill to control and exploit those features.

Rallying lost Group B 25 years ago and ever since has become progressively more dumbed down, mundane and unspectacular. Now the WRC is barely clinging to life, with dwindling public following and little manufacturer interest.


People dearly love extremeties of performance but the majority don't know and don't give a rats ass about the tech/engineering and both F1 and Rally cars are very high tech now with extremes of engineering and notice both are numbed down from it? We simply need to get back to raw but then theres no massive amounts of money required so you'll never get teams who hold the sport/money in their hands now to agree


comedy or drama?? :drunk:



Sorry, can you give me a clue as to if you are refering to yourself or the picture?


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#8680 Sakae

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 16:29

I wonder how is Michael feeling after today's session.

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 16:42

I wonder how is Michael feeling after today's session.


Seems cheerful and positive. I kind of go by what he says, the guy is always straightforward. So far so good.

Edited by Szoelloe, 10 March 2011 - 16:43.


#8682 merschu

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Posted 10 March 2011 - 18:23

Michael Schumacher recently competed in a kart race, where he finished 1st and his brother Ralf 3rd.

Michael Schumacher has once again taken the wheel of a kart KZ2 Sunday, March 6, on the German circuit of Oschersleben, participating in the Winterpokal ADAC.

The champion also contaminated his brother Ralph with his passion for karting. In fact, the two Schumacher brothers traveled together on the runway at the Arena Oschersleben Motorspo rt and they both reached the podium. Michael won the race while Ralph won a third place them another Tony Kart-Vortex-driven Jeleniowski.

Ralph and Michael are both pilots of the Mercedes team, the first under the colors in the MAC championship DTM and Michael, unused to say, is the spearhead of the German F1 Team.


http://www.kartcom.c...ony-kart-vortex

http://translate.goo...ony-kart-vortex


#8683 JackTorrance

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 14:37

Schumacher :clap: :clap: :up: :up: Old man, past it, shows the young uns how its done :)

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 14:56

Michael must feel good today, even if Nico should beat his time later on.

Edited by Sakae, 11 March 2011 - 14:56.


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Posted 11 March 2011 - 15:00

So will Merc let Schumi drive the car a bit tomorrow so that he can atleast understand what it's like to drive the Merc in rainy conditions or try the new intermidiate tyres?


P:S- Not trying to create any fight! Just curious.

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 15:02

Good point merschu

#8687 Frans

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 15:05

Ah the Glory Lap-man at work again I see....

#8688 arknor

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 15:05

So will Merc let Schumi drive the car a bit tomorrow so that he can atleast understand what it's like to drive the Merc in rainy conditions or try the new intermidiate tyres?


P:S- Not trying to create any fight! Just curious.

bet they wont , nico only gets an hour anyway i doubt michael is to bothred about losing 1 hour seeing as hes done some good mileage when you count all tests together

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 15:09

I can't wait for the first "podium jump"!

#8690 ivand911

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 15:14

bet they wont , nico only gets an hour anyway i doubt michael is to bothred about losing 1 hour seeing as hes done some good mileage when you count all tests together

I think it is not about loosing time , it is more about testing the wet tyres tomorrow. Could be handy.
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#8691 Tarzaan

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 16:50

:)

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 16:54

so according to schumacher, he will drive tomorrow as well :up:

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 18:01

Pos Driver Team/Car Time Gap Laps
1. Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1m21.249s 67
2. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m21.614s + 0.365s 141


The good old days, these two p1 and p2 ! :)


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Posted 11 March 2011 - 18:22

Schumacher and Nico both will drive tomorrow.

http://www.jamesalle...dated-mercedes/

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 18:48

Schumacher :clap: :clap: :up: :up: Old man, past it, shows the young uns how its done :)


Up against decent karters he doesn't come out quite so well ;)

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 19:04

Up against decent karters he doesn't come out quite so well ;)


Yeah for sure :rotfl:



Massa, Schumacher, Di Grassi, Burti, Liuzzi, Piquet Jr, Bia Figueiredo, Barrichello, Tony Kanaan, Pizzonia

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 19:53

Yeah for sure :rotfl:



Massa, Schumacher, Di Grassi, Burti, Liuzzi, Piquet Jr, Bia Figueiredo, Barrichello, Tony Kanaan, Pizzonia


The Brazilian commentators are fabulous!! It's almost impossible not to like them. About Bia Figueiredo: 'even the kart is more elegant!' :)


#8698 rhukkas

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 20:44

Yeah for sure :rotfl:



Massa, Schumacher, Di Grassi, Burti, Liuzzi, Piquet Jr, Bia Figueiredo, Barrichello, Tony Kanaan, Pizzonia


I said karters not car racers or ex-karters. Considering how much Schumi still drives karts you would expect to beat his car racing peers in go-karts. Up against guys like Ardigo and Thonon he's not quick enough, and this was proved quite conclusively in 2009 when he raced them and couldn't get close :)

The ol' man is damn good though considering his age.

Edited by rhukkas, 11 March 2011 - 20:51.


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Posted 11 March 2011 - 21:01

I said karters not car racers or ex-karters. Considering how much Schumi still drives karts you would expect to beat his car racing peers in go-karts. Up against guys like Ardigo and Thonon he's not quick enough, and this was proved quite conclusively in 2009 when he raced them and couldn't get close :)

The ol' man is damn good though considering his age.

None of the f1 drivers get close to the actual top karters. They probably would if they'd focus completely on karting :)

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 21:03

None of the f1 drivers get close to the actual top karters. They probably would if they'd focus completely on karting :)


same could be said visa versa ;) funny ol' world motorsport.