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#8701 Augurk

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 21:15

same could be said visa versa ;) funny ol' world motorsport.

Definitely :)

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#8702 black magic

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 21:29

Is it me or is michael looking that little bit sharper this yr

has had more mileage than rosberg but consistantly getting better times

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 21:35

Is it me or is michael looking that little bit sharper this yr

has had more mileage than rosberg but consistantly getting better times

Will see when season start. Now with different programs they run it is difficult to say. I hope this car will be much more suitable for him. Not to fight it, like last year car. The rest is easy. :)

Edited by ivand911, 11 March 2011 - 21:38.


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Posted 11 March 2011 - 21:45

The naysayers are getting desperate which is always a good sign

#8705 Fondmetal

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 22:29

I have a feeling Michael is going to get the better of Rosberg this year. He is looking very sharp and very focussed... not the happy smiles and care free fun attitude he showed last season..

I think he is back to his usual self.. focussed, single minded and determined to silence the critics.

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 22:30

nico_rosberg Nico Rosberg

Cool. Thanks to the Team! Good effort to improve the car! Rear wing adjust broke when I took over the car so that cost me lots of lap time.

:lol:
i always sense jealousy in this kid

#8707 ali.unal

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 22:33

:lol:
i always sense jealousy in this kid

So, he says he could have beaten Michael? :)

#8708 Frans

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 22:36

Of course he could, the last 4 years he was already faster in f1 than Michael.

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Posted 11 March 2011 - 22:46

So, he says he could have beaten Michael? :)

i assume so.

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 04:51

the new front tires are allowing the car to be setup a bit over-steery, Michael is the only driver I know of that likes this, and balances the rear-end out with the throttle...

with the better more efficient front-aero, and front tires being grippier than the hard bridgestones which never wear out, I'm expecting Merc and Michael to jump near the front if the car is at least close to Redbull and Ferrari.

having watched Michael since 91, he wants an over-steery car; now, with the tires from the 90's (no grooves), and loads of HP, this was always possible.

the two cars MS drove which wasnt as good at it, was the Ferrari 2003 (Rubens was a lot closer to MS that year than any other year at Ferrari), and the Merc last year.... ; with the new more efficient aero of the Merc, and the new front-tires, Michael is feeling his groove.... after 1 year in F1, you can adapt quite easily, but after 20 years, you don't just change your style, and MS is the only driver I know who wants over-steer;

win #92, here we come.

#8711 steveninthematrix

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 04:54

Michael - Imola Quali 2004



look at 55 seconds, the handling and quickness through the chicane... beautiful.

#8712 merschu

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 05:27

Nico Rosberg posted this not so clear image of Schumi driving with his helmet for some filming work!

http://plixi.com/p/83272187

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 05:37

I have a feeling Michael is going to get the better of Rosberg this year. He is looking very sharp and very focussed... not the happy smiles and care free fun attitude he showed last season..

I think he is back to his usual self.. focussed, single minded and determined to silence the critics.



Michael is better driver than Nico. To be exact Michael is the best driver in the F1 (all time). :wave:

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 06:24

Michael needs to put this Nico kid to his place.

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 06:59

A lot of people underestimated how much the three year layoff would affect Michael's performance. That's not something that you get back overnight. Plus the crap car didn't help. This year we can look forward to a much better result.


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Posted 12 March 2011 - 07:12

:lol:
i always sense jealousy in this kid

I think we didn't hear this for the first time? When Nico is driving , Rear wing adjust is broken every time. But, he didn't say about the tyres. So,I guess he did have fresh sets? They need to resolve this rear wing adjust problem.


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Posted 12 March 2011 - 07:34

I think its just sensible that he would mention this.. but sure, Nico has since the beginning been sensitive to anything that might make it look as if he is being outperformed, even for a session. Who can blame him though?

He ought to be over it now.

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 07:47

the new front tires are allowing the car to be setup a bit over-steery, Michael is the only driver I know of that likes this, and balances the rear-end out with the throttle...

with the better more efficient front-aero, and front tires being grippier than the hard bridgestones which never wear out, I'm expecting Merc and Michael to jump near the front if the car is at least close to Redbull and Ferrari.

having watched Michael since 91, he wants an over-steery car; now, with the tires from the 90's (no grooves), and loads of HP, this was always possible.

the two cars MS drove which wasnt as good at it, was the Ferrari 2003 (Rubens was a lot closer to MS that year than any other year at Ferrari), and the Merc last year.... ; with the new more efficient aero of the Merc, and the new front-tires, Michael is feeling his groove.... after 1 year in F1, you can adapt quite easily, but after 20 years, you don't just change your style, and MS is the only driver I know who wants over-steer;

win #92, here we come.

Nobody wants overstreer, he wants a nervous/pointy car, not oversteer. The mere term oversteer speaks for itself, it'll over-steer on him. Now, there is a relative balance that might feel perfectly balanced to one driver that might feel like chronic oversteer to another. Schumacher doesn't exactly require a front heavy car, he requires a nervous, stiff car that reacts quickly to small steering inputs, this doesn't automatically make the car oversteer, however, he does require a lot of rear en grip as well (specially at mid corner) to make it work as he does (he's not an extremely early accelerator hence why he spends less time at full throttle when compared to some drivers), so, it's not an "oversteer" by definition.

Edited by Birelman, 12 March 2011 - 07:50.


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Posted 12 March 2011 - 08:54

Is there a quote from Schumacher himself about what kind of car behavior he prefers?

Until now, I've only seen instances of Jenson Button, Martini Brundle, James Allen, the folks who write in Autosport, etc. claiming that the absence of a 'pointy' car to be the reason Michael was not as fast as we'd expected him to be.

Has Michael ever mentioned unfavorable car behavior and its incompatibility to his driving style as an excuse for his lackluster 2010?

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#8720 BRK

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 09:03

Is there a quote from Schumacher himself about what kind of car behavior he prefers?

Until now, I've only seen instances of Jenson Button, Martini Brundle, James Allen, the folks who write in Autosport, etc. claiming that the absence of a 'pointy' car to be the reason Michael was not as fast as we'd expected him to be.

Has Michael ever mentioned unfavorable car behavior and its incompatibility to his driving style as an excuse for his lackluster 2010?


Actually no,I don't think there are any. He did remark on a couple of occasions that the tyres did not suit his driving style but always added that these things didn't really matter,that adapting to the circumstances and conditions wasn't a problem for him at all.

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 09:14

http://news.bbc.co.u...one/9418556.stm

7:13 onwards ... DC says that he does not understand this theory about driving style/car behavior issue hurting Michael .. and goes on to say that in the past MS was able to win in any car given to him

Edited by Speed_Racer, 12 March 2011 - 09:17.


#8722 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 11:17

Of course he could, the last 4 years he was already faster in f1 than Michael.


Does that include the 3 years off that Schumacher had too?

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 11:53

Pos Driver Team/Car Time Gap Laps
1. Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1m21.249s 67
2. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m21.614s + 0.365s 141


The good old days, these two p1 and p2 ! :)


Notwithstanding how misleading and meaningless these numbers potentially might be, I agree that mentally it has to have calming effect, altghough he is not anyone's fool, and knows more accurately than we do as to where the development is heading. Good stuff!

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 12:23

Notwithstanding how misleading and meaningless these numbers potentially might be, I agree that mentally it has to have calming effect, altghough he is not anyone's fool, and knows more accurately than we do as to where the development is heading. Good stuff!

alonso and vettel both know michaels a serious threat if he gets a car that can get anywhre near the podium, you can tell by some of the comments they make.
some of the other drivers can think what they want they havent experienced the real michael yet, although button and hamilton did get a little taste.

vettel will know from almost beeing mentored by michael from a young age and alonso knows from the years they spent as rivals.

#8725 libano

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 17:42

Just don't be so quick to discount Nico. He'll be there as well, probably beating MS on several occassions this season. They're close.

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 18:59

Is there a quote from Schumacher himself about what kind of car behavior he prefers?

Until now, I've only seen instances of Jenson Button, Martini Brundle, James Allen, the folks who write in Autosport, etc. claiming that the absence of a 'pointy' car to be the reason Michael was not as fast as we'd expected him to be.

Has Michael ever mentioned unfavorable car behavior and its incompatibility to his driving style as an excuse for his lackluster 2010?


I think there is, but I only listened to it on the first GP tv transmission: Schumacher said that he was learning to handle the car because he could not turn it in mid corner with the throttle.

Now that is a very accurate description of a stably understeery car. What Schumacher seems to want is kart-like behaviour: you accelerate, the rear tires go sideways (but they don't loose grip, they only move in a pronounced oblique line) and the car is pointing into the right direction, allowing progressive throttle to be applied early and full throttle when the car is almost straight.

In a nutshell: Schumacher likes the car to turn around its middle using the throttle, that is, a very 'nervous' car. That is (partly) why Schumacher's style shows so many small corrections and why he never was the 'full throttle on exit' type of driver.

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Posted 12 March 2011 - 19:02

The Brazilian commentators are fabulous!! It's almost impossible not to like them. About Bia Figueiredo: 'even the kart is more elegant!' :)


The video commented in that post show, very graphically, the points I tried to make in the previous post. See

and all the related videos.

Edited by RSNS, 12 March 2011 - 19:03.


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Posted 14 March 2011 - 12:29

Doctor says Schumacher can run up to 50 years

At 42 years, Michael Schumacher is about to begin his 18th season in Formula 1, and can not rule renew its contract with Mercedes GP by the end of 2013. The German now has 45 years, but according to his doctor, age is not an obstacle.

"Michael is fit," confirmed Johannes Peil, personal physician of seven times world champion driver. "He could keep riding until 50," he added.


Asked by the German newspaper Bild that Schumacher may extend his contract beyond 2012, the businesswoman Sabine Kehm proved lively with this hypothesis.

"Of course we are open to discussion, because it sits very well with the team. Michael is totally motivated and can still give a lot to Formula 1, "said the businesswoman.


Mercedes GP has also proved in favor of extending the contract from German, which runs through 2012. Automaker's sports director Norbert Haug said he might run in 2012 "if he wants and if the team can reach an agreement."


http://translate.goo...os-50-anos.jhtm

Edited by merschu, 14 March 2011 - 12:32.


#8729 Sakae

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 12:36

Wow.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 12:40

What's NH saying about 2012, that both parties need to want and agree?
I thought 2012 was the last year of the existing 3 year deal he has?

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 12:46

What's NH saying about 2012, that both parties need to want and agree?
I thought 2012 was the last year of the existing 3 year deal he has?

They are talking after 2012.


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Posted 14 March 2011 - 12:51

Here is an English article on the same topic. The translation is better. :)

Michael Schumacher is not ruling out staying in Formula One beyond the end of his current contract.

Mercedes' Norbert Haug at the weekend said he can imagine teaming up with the famous seven time world champion in 2013 "If Michael wants it and we can agree on a right price".

Schumacher's manager Sabine Kehm responded to Bild newspaper: "Of course we are open to discussions, because with the team we feel very good.

"Michael is totally motivated and is able to give F1 a lot more," she added.

By the end of 2013, Schumacher will be approaching his 45th birthday, but the great German's doctor Johannes Peil said age is not an obstacle.

"Michael is so fit," he insisted, "he could still be driving at 50."

Perhaps the key to Schumacher's willingness to re-sign beyond 2012 is the better performance of the Mercedes team, following a disappointing return to F1 last year.


Until very recently, the new W02 was a second off the pace but last week at Barcelona "We made the big step we had calculated", admitted a relieved Haug.

"We took a giant step forwards," confirmed Schumacher's teammate Nico Rosberg, who admitted that Schumacher's best laptime in Barcelona with the upgrade package showed that the W02 is "very fast".

"Even if the time was with low fuel, it surprised us. And many others, I am sure," said Red Bull's reigning world champion Sebastian Vettel.

But Haug told the SID news agency: "I don't see us as the favourites; that is going to take a while yet."


http://old.motorspor...p...01999&FS=F1


#8733 BRK

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 12:54

We'll see. He's certainly super fit at 43, and I noticed a marked change between last season and testing this year,he really seems to have been slugging it out in the gym.

If there's one man in the sport that can keep this up,it's Michael. So it's no wonder even the physios think so.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 12:57

Michael talks about Japan

Michael shocked by catastrophe
"My compassion is with the people of Japan

"We are all in a total shock and horror after what has been happening to the people of Japan. It is just terrible to see all the damage and agony. Even if that is very little, I would like them to know that my thoughts and compassion are with them.

I suffer with all the people who have lost familiy-members or friends, and I wish them a lot of strength to overcome this terrible catastrophe. "

http://michael-schum...story_id=116266


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Posted 14 March 2011 - 14:49

We'll see. He's certainly super fit at 43, and I noticed a marked change between last season and testing this year,he really seems to have been slugging it out in the gym.

If there's one man in the sport that can keep this up,it's Michael. So it's no wonder even the physios think so.

I think I said about a week or two ago that I wouldn't be surprised if Michael actually stayed on beyond 2012 as long as the car worked--looks like I was on the right track. :p

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 16:33

I was going through my old F1 magazines and found this quote from Michael,
Total Sport, September 1996:


"Q: When will you retire?"
MS: To be honest, sooner rather than later... There's a problem with old drivers. If you go right up to the age limit then you start to think about it, the driving, and then you become too slow.
So I guess I could go on for another five or six years... as long as I'm enjoying it."



I suppose he still enjoys it. And his speed seems to be ok as well.
But it's interesting hearing him talking about quitting in the early 00 or thereabouts.
While he is still going strong in 2011 and thinking about driving beyond 2012...




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Posted 14 March 2011 - 16:50

:lol:
i always sense jealousy in this kid

I think we didn't hear this for the first time? When Nico is driving , Rear wing adjust is broken every time. But, he didn't say about the tyres. So,I guess he did have fresh sets? They need to resolve this rear wing adjust problem.

spot on! What a coincidence!!!

Everytime Nico gets beaten, he has a technical problem. :rolleyes:

I'm smelling a year full of complaints about car's problem regarding Nico and Schumi haters saying that Brawn is benefiting Michael.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 16:51

Michael will go on as long as he enjoys it, i hope he stays after 2012

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 19:57

Michael will go on as long as he enjoys it, i hope he stays after 2012



Same here, but I think he will hang his helmet on a spike in the garage wall by the end of 2012. Kids are growing, and papa will want to be probably around them.

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 19:58

I was going through my old F1 magazines and found this quote from Michael,
Total Sport, September 1996:


"Q: When will you retire?"
MS: To be honest, sooner rather than later... There's a problem with old drivers. If you go right up to the age limit then you start to think about it, the driving, and then you become too slow.
So I guess I could go on for another five or six years... as long as I'm enjoying it."



I suppose he still enjoys it. And his speed seems to be ok as well.
But it's interesting hearing him talking about quitting in the early 00 or thereabouts.
While he is still going strong in 2011 and thinking about driving beyond 2012...



Wow, good find and I also remember all the speculation how Shumi would go and retire and the end of this or that season.

Anyway: ALL HAIL THE KING!!!! :up:

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 23:44


I'm not quite sure what to say.

#8742 Raelene

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 23:47

oh my.,...

#8743 ch103

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 23:57


I'm not quite sure what to say.


at least the chick singing is hot

#8744 JackTorrance

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 00:17

I remember the german showing hours and hours of non stop shumi admiration tributes after he won his 7th title. it was great to watch :)

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 00:27

Wow, good find and I also remember all the speculation how Shumi would go and retire and the end of this or that season.

Anyway: ALL HAIL THE KING!!!! :up:


Wishful thinking by his detractors.


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Posted 15 March 2011 - 00:29


I'm not quite sure what to say.


Thanks, I just added that to my collection.

There's a nice one about Michael and Corinna on there. A bit sappy, but lots of good pictures.

http://www.youtube.c...mp;feature=fvwp

Edited by Tardis40, 15 March 2011 - 00:30.


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Posted 16 March 2011 - 02:16

the advanatge to michael of a competitive car is that will give him finally the knowledge whether he really still has what it takes.

knowing you are not producing in a good car despite 2 yrs trying will make him see the sense of retiring gracefully.

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Posted 16 March 2011 - 03:19

Thanks, I just added that to my collection.

There's a nice one about Michael and Corinna on there. A bit sappy, but lots of good pictures.

http://www.youtube.c...mp;feature=fvwp


a BIT sappy - that's the work of a stalker!!

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Posted 16 March 2011 - 04:05

Michael will go on as long as he enjoys it, i hope he stays after 2012


Agreed.

I hope that Merc gives him and Nico the car to let them slug it out with the Ferraris, Red Bulls, and McLarens. Wouldn`t that be great fun.


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Posted 16 March 2011 - 04:08

Thanks, I just added that to my collection.

There's a nice one about Michael and Corinna on there. A bit sappy, but lots of good pictures.

http://www.youtube.c...mp;feature=fvwp


The hell?