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#9001 RedBaron

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 06:24

First man lapped of 2011! Awesome!

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#9002 Buttoneer

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 06:27

Race chat in the race thread please. Moved a few posts there already. If there's a specific incident you wish to discuss start a new thread. PM if you are concerned.

#9003 Wade

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 06:39

Michael has just retired from the race.

Oh well, on to the next one.

#9004 dav115

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 06:40

Michael has just retired from the race.

Oh well, on to the next one.

Next Mercedes that is!

#9005 TheMortalBard

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 07:32

Schumacher comments about his 'race'

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/90270

#9006 exmayol

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 07:37

I'm gonna go get Alguersuari voodoo doll and have some quality time with it.

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 07:38

I'm gonna go get Alguersuari voodoo doll and have some quality time with it.

:rotfl:


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Posted 27 March 2011 - 07:43

I'm gonna go get Alguersuari voodoo doll and have some quality time with it.


:rotfl:

Judging by the Merc pace, I think you needs the dolls for the drivers of RBR, McL, Ferrari, Renault and maybe even Sauber and TR !! Horrible start for Merc but let's hope the next one is better !


#9009 baddog

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 08:02

Well that race contained no information about Michaels performance other than the fact he can still start as well as anyone. Oh well, as said on to the next one.

#9010 Birelman

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 08:04

Well that race contained no information about Michaels performance other than the fact he can still start as well as anyone. Oh well, as said on to the next one.

What...Schumacher raced today? I didn't see him.....that's normal I guess, ussually cameras are close to the front of GPs....

#9011 baddog

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 08:57

What...Schumacher raced today? I didn't see him.....that's normal I guess, ussually cameras are close to the front of GPs....

Well if you were watching (first time for everything I guess?) at the start you would have seen him starting well, passing cars, being backed up by alonsos mistake (yes he was right behind the top ferrari) and then being nerfed from the back by a torro rosso.

But you know, I know that kind of thing isnt what you want so just keep right on.

#9012 arknor

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 10:20

What...Schumacher raced today? I didn't see him.....that's normal I guess, ussually cameras are close to the front of GPs....

guess you didnt see someone drive straight into the back of his car and blow his tyre then? must have been some force

#9013 Polle

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 11:08

Gah what a terrible day for the team. Bother drivers having their bubbles popped by someone else. Only got to watch a bunch of laps and now I have to wait until Malaysia till I see them on the track again :(

#9014 Massa_f1

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 11:22

If i was Micheal i would give the team until Spain to sort out the car. If it is still as rubbish as it was this weekend it is simply time to leave.

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 11:36

If i was Micheal i would give the team until Spain to sort out the car. If it is still as rubbish as it was this weekend it is simply time to leave.

The car wasn't the best car that started a F1 race ever but rubbish was it not. Sure, there's room for improvement, but Schumacher was never the "I demand the bestest perfectest fluffiest car! Now!" kind of racer. He worked with the team, as a team. So I don't see that happening.

#9016 george1981

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 11:40

I thought Mercedes would try to use the race as a practice session after Michael's incident. They could have fixed the floor and the suspension in 5-10 laps, and then had a go at getting their problematic KERS working. They'd still be dead last and the car would probably fail scrutineering due to all the new bits, but they might get a handle on their KERS problem and be better prepared for Malaysia.

#9017 Polle

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 11:41

Agree, the Mercedes isn't a bad car. Both cars should be able to make it into Q3 assuming the cars are problem free. I expect big improvements on tracks with long straights.

#9018 Birelman

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 13:16

Well if you were watching (first time for everything I guess?) at the start you would have seen him starting well, passing cars, being backed up by alonsos mistake (yes he was right behind the top ferrari) and then being nerfed from the back by a torro rosso.

But you know, I know that kind of thing isnt what you want so just keep right on.

Hey, don't knock on me! I'm just sayng I didn't get to see him, so, he was right behind the Ferrari of Alonso? Let me see, that's the Ferrari who had fallen to 9th at the start? that will make Schumacher being, yes he was right behind the top Ferrari in 9th, that will make him 10th! Awesome! so, I would be able to catch a glimpse of this accident in about the upper right hand corner of the screen!! I'll re-watch and put it in ultra slow-mo so that I can enjoy this, thanks!!!!!!

#9019 Sakae

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 13:24

Is Michael having history with Jaime Alguersuari? I am not entiry sure of it, but if memory serves, that's not first time this fellow run into Schumacher's car. Michael must be down. Quali was not what he expected, and now this; a weekend to forget. Next.

Edited by Sakae, 27 March 2011 - 20:27.


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#9020 ivand911

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 13:36

Hey, don't knock on me! I'm just sayng I didn't get to see him, so, he was right behind the Ferrari of Alonso? Let me see, that's the Ferrari who had fallen to 9th at the start? that will make Schumacher being, yes he was right behind the top Ferrari in 9th, that will make him 10th! Awesome! so, I would be able to catch a glimpse of this accident in about the upper right hand corner of the screen!! I'll re-watch and put it in ultra slow-mo so that I can enjoy this, thanks!!!!!!

Alonso was out of the track and he return in front of Michael and this way he stop his position improvement. Michael was overtaken Koba, but he pass him again when Alonso block Michael. So he was looking for 7-8th, starting from 11th. Last year also Alonso stop him in first corner.

Edited by ivand911, 27 March 2011 - 13:36.


#9021 Wass1985

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 13:44

If schumacer was faster he wouldn't have to be battling with the mid runners :)

#9022 topical

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 14:04

I think this is going to be another long season for the Michael.

#9023 jj2728

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 14:20

It is called practice.

Can we please evaluate everyone's performances at the end of the race on Sunday.



Uhmmm, ok how does one evaluate finishing what, 20th? I'd say it's time to stick a fork in Schumacher.....he's done.

#9024 jj2728

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 14:24

:rotfl:

Judging by the Merc pace, I think you needs the dolls for the drivers of RBR, McL, Ferrari, Renault and maybe even Sauber and TR !! Horrible start for Merc but let's hope the next one is better !


Horrible, and not unexpected start for Schumacher that is, Nico didn't fair too badly until he was nerfed by Rubens.

#9025 Massa_f1

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 14:30

Horrible, and not unexpected start for Schumacher that is, Nico didn't fair too badly until he was nerfed by Rubens.


He was 9th and loosing pace rapidly. I would hardly call that a fair showing as to what Merc was expecing.

#9026 jj2728

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 14:51

He was 9th and loosing pace rapidly. I would hardly call that a fair showing as to what Merc was expecing.


Well he faired a bit better than his teammate.......of which I'm sure Merc was expecting QUITE a bit more.

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 15:02

Well he faired a bit better than his teammate.......of which I'm sure Merc was expecting QUITE a bit more.

That's not hard when your teammate get's eliminated from a real race in the second corner already.

#9028 prty

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 15:15

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#9029 rog

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 16:13

He was 9th and loosing pace rapidly. I would hardly call that a fair showing as to what Merc was expecing.



He was 8th. Most drivers around him made an earlier stop to new tyres. Could be a heating issue because he improved lap for lap till his fight with Rubens.

#9030 Tardis40

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 16:36

I thought this was the Schumacher thread?

Michael can't seem to get a break in Australia. He was in the perfect position to do some overhauling as the leading car on fresh tires until one of the crash kids came along. I hope he got an apology!


#9031 BRK

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 18:52

Very frustrating as yet again he managed to get a great start off the line. Found it bizarre that it was the same duo that nearly took him out at the first corner as last year: Button pushing Alonso wide and MS getting stuck behind the Ferrari.

No positives at all to take away from this weekend.

#9032 jj2728

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 20:32

I thought this was the Schumacher thread?

Michael can't seem to get a break in Australia. He was in the perfect position to do some overhauling as the leading car on fresh tires until one of the crash kids came along. I hope he got an apology!


What?

#9033 Scotracer

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 20:35

What?


What's difficult to understand? He was the highest-placed driver (including after Turn 1) to be on completely fresh tyres.

#9034 metz

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 21:26

What's difficult to understand is that Michael is the one that did the crashing into other cars.

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 21:45

What's difficult to understand is that Michael is the one that did the crashing into other cars.


indeed, it is difficult to understand. Moreso when it wasnt Schumacher who did the crashing.


#9036 metz

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 21:50

Watch it again. See exactly how he got the puncture.

#9037 arknor

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 21:58

Watch it again. See exactly how he got the puncture.

aye he clearly shoves his car into reverse by mistake and drives backwords into someones front wing, nico shouldnt be brake testing barrichello either , disgusting behavior

#9038 Longtimefan

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 22:06

If i was Micheal i would give the team until Spain to sort out the car. If it is still as rubbish as it was this weekend it is simply time to leave.


I'm not sure I'd even give them that long. have ZERO confidence in the car or the teams ability to improve it.

#9039 metz

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 22:08

aye he clearly shoves his car into reverse by mistake and drives backwords into someones front wing, nico shouldnt be brake testing barrichello either , disgusting behavior

:rotfl:
You obviously didn't see that he stopped at the Ferrari garage by mistake and they put a tyre without air on his rear.
Give it up!

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#9040 Buttoneer

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 22:22

metz, apologies if it's obvious to you, but it isn't to me. What's your point?

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 22:25

:rotfl:
You obviously didn't see that he stopped at the Ferrari garage by mistake and they put a tyre without air on his rear.
Give it up!


:rotfl: ... and stopped at Williams garage and told Sam that he would not let Barrichello through. In the dark the aging Barrichello hit Rosberg instead.

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Edit: Schumacher was well ahead of Alguersuari before turn #3. The late breaking Alguersuari simply hit Schumacher's right rear wheel. Did Schumacher leave room for him? No. Was he optimistic? Yes. Did Alguersuari expect Schumacher to give him room? Yes. Who caused the puncture? Alguersuari

Edited by weston, 27 March 2011 - 22:26.


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Posted 27 March 2011 - 23:58

First turn - Vettel way ahead of everyone, Schu alongside his teammate, coming up on Alonso

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Button slams the door on Alonso

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Several cars take advantage and pass Alonso. Schu is trapped behind Alonso.


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Turn 3? The nose of the offending TR is just visible behind Schumacher's car

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 00:04

First turn - Vettel way ahead of everyone, Schu alongside his teammate, coming up on Alonso

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Button slams the door on Alonso

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Several cars take advantage and pass Alonso. Schu is trapped behind Alonso.


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Turn 3? The nose of the offending TR is just visible behind Schumacher's car

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Not that it makes any difference, but, I wouldn't call that "Button shuts the door on Alonso" If you see Button's trajectory before that point, Button was already all the way into that corner, if Alonso had been trying to get inside of him, he was the dumb one. Also, Alonso had room to the right if he wanted to in the previous pic, he probably felt someone was already there and so kept to the left.

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 00:10

Turn 3? The nose of the offending TR is just visible behind Schumacher's car

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It seems so. Schumacher's right rear wheel was hit a few frames ealier.

#9045 Sakae

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 00:13

Where is the "obvious" evidence metz is refering to with claims that Schumacher caused the altercation? BBC reported that it was actually Alguersuari who was the one who was behind it, and from videos I have seen, unfortunately I cannot make my mind one way or another.

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 00:37

Not that it makes any difference, but, I wouldn't call that "Button shuts the door on Alonso" If you see Button's trajectory before that point, Button was already all the way into that corner, if Alonso had been trying to get inside of him, he was the dumb one. Also, Alonso had room to the right if he wanted to in the previous pic, he probably felt someone was already there and so kept to the left.



Wasn't suggesting that Button did anything wrong. Just that Alonso had to slow down which forced the cars behind him to do the same.



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Posted 28 March 2011 - 00:44

Simply a Midpack Racing incident with Michael being on the short end of the stick. Attribute it too poor qualifying more then anything else. Puncture leading to floor damage means it's pretty much useless to draw any conclusions.

The only thing that is obvious is that Nico seems slightly more on pace then Schumi again this year...
The only thing obvious about W02 is that it didn't come prepared to play ball... poor reliability with KERS is one thing but .. their lack of speed was way more then what the KERS and DRS would add to the qualifying and Nico's race preformance.

Looks like it's gonna be a long year for them unfortunately. Lotus-Renault didn't look all that great either. Looks like another 2 team race for the cup year playing out RBR vs. McLaren with Ferrari being a dark horse that could.. maybe.. come into the mix.

Edited by Paco, 28 March 2011 - 00:46.


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Posted 28 March 2011 - 01:08

another obvious thing - MS is a better starter than NR..again

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 01:28

Wasn't suggesting that Button did anything wrong. Just that Alonso had to slow down which forced the cars behind him to do the same.

Yea, I hear ya, I was just sayin it sounded a bit harsh lol, you good :)


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Posted 28 March 2011 - 01:35

another obvious thing - MS is a better starter than NR..again


But if keeps starting 3+ places back... really of very little use to the team his good starts.