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#10101 spacekid

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 13:44

has looked that way all race so far if nico thought he had the pace he would have undercut schumacher or stayed out longer on one of the stints but he didnt


Yeah, I'm just being a nervous fan!!

The key to this race for me today was Petov. I'd need to see the start again, but it looked to me that Nico got busy racing Petrov through turns 2 and 3 and thet let Schumi get round the outside of Nico. Once in front he had the optimum race strategy call and was able to pit first, covering off the undercut. All he had to do then was keep it out in front and soak up the pressure.

Great to see Michael put in a strong performance. There is nothing between those guys here except Michael got a great start and made it work.

So, to all the guys that like to hang around here and bash Schumi. Should Rosberg retire now, because he is so slooooooow? Or has Michael had some car troubles that have affected quali and actually he is matching a very talented and much younger driver on pace, thus earning his slot in a solid upper midfield team? Answers on a post card :cool:

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#10102 rommel

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 13:45

Its not even possible for Michael to ever even be as fast as Rosberg let alone faster. Once again he had no pace and just was a roadblock to his team mate all race. He really should retire, it should be obvious to even him he has nothing left.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 13:46

You actually think MS had the pace of Rosberg today? :rotfl:

Who cares about the pace? Also tyre management? To hurry for what?

Edited by ivand911, 22 May 2011 - 13:46.


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Posted 22 May 2011 - 13:46

You actually think MS had the pace of Rosberg today? :rotfl:

so why didnt rosberg pit early or stay out longer? he was within a second at pretty much every stop and could easily have tried if he thought he had the pace...

#10105 Urawa

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 13:46

His race pace at the last race was better despite all those issues but nontheless

#10106 Massa_f1

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 13:47

He can beat Rosberg today fair and square. With a solid if unspectacular performance. Good race from Micheal.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 13:47

LOL, now trolls will come out and say Schumy was slower blah blah yada yada and even before you know it will reach to 1994, 1997 and 2002 :lol:
Well Schumy 10th to 6th :up:
Nico 7th to 7th

#10108 Diablobb81

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 13:47

How many chances did Rosberg have to show his "faster" pace and do some good laps and overtake Michael in the pits? Too bad it didn't happen.

#10109 spacekid

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 13:50

Its not even possible for Michael to ever even be as fast as Rosberg let alone faster. Once again he had no pace and just was a roadblock to his team mate all race. He really should retire, it should be obvious to even him he has nothing left.


Unbelievable. You couldn't make it up. Michael is in the 4th best car on the grid, finishes 6th ahead of his team mate and this is proof that he needs to retire?

The amount of posts like this just make it impossible to have a reasonable debate on here.

#10110 Professor Arturo

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 13:50

Who cares about the pace? Also tyre management? To hurry for what?

Yeah, MS was saving his tyres all the race. You guys are unbelieveable.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 13:52

Yeah, MS was saving his tyres all the race. You guys are unbelieveable.

You did notice who finished ahead from that team no? Do you think Nico is a complete idiot to be faster and finish behind?

#10112 Massa_f1

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 13:52

Yeah, MS was saving his tyres all the race. You guys are unbelieveable.


:wave: bye then.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 13:53

Yeah, MS was saving his tyres all the race. You guys are unbelieveable.


And if Rosberg was so much faster he should have passed Michael. Its not like he didn't have the use of DRS over Michael.

#10114 EdwardCullen

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 13:53

Unbelievable. You couldn't make it up. Michael is in the 4th best car on the grid, finishes 6th ahead of his team mate and this is proof that he needs to retire?

The amount of posts like this just make it impossible to have a reasonable debate on here.

It only happens in MS topics, i bet you will get a warning at least if you do the same in other driver's thread
Maybe the mods also like bashing so they are keeping quite

#10115 FlashMaster

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 13:53

10-6
7-7

MS #WINNING

#10116 BRK

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 13:54

Good race for Michael, ncie and enjoyable, and thankfully spent most of the race racing with proper drivers and not the GP2 rambos at the back. Good stuff.

Mercedes have a LONG way to go, though.

#10117 Richardc

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 13:54

He knew he couldn't catch Alo, there was no use him pushing on and taking risks.

#10118 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 13:55

You actually think MS had the pace of Rosberg today? :rotfl:


No. Nico was quicker. That's why he finished in front.

Oh no, wait..............

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 13:57

Sadly predictable that the trolls are only going to say NR was faster and MS just held him up all day.

Don't recall them saying the same when the roles were reversed in Suzuka last year.

Here's to a Frans less few days :clap:
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#10120 spacekid

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 13:58

It only happens in MS topics, i bet you will get a warning at least if you do the same in other driver's thread
Maybe the mods also like bashing so they are keeping quite


Its just ridiculous. I'm happy to agree that Nico generally has a pace advantage over Schumi. Where I feel Nico needs to improve is his race craft a little (I'll take this over to the Nico Schumi thread but won't get a much better response).

So as a Schumi fan I'm happy to have a sensible debate about it.

BUT! I think Nico is a great driver, very talented and much younger than Schumi. And look, Schumi beat him in FP3 and some of the Qs so he is hardly slow. Who on the grid in a car below the Mercedes would definately beat Nico? Sutil? Petrov? I don't think so. Probably not Massa either. is di Resta after 5 races proven to take that seat before he learns his trade? No. So who exactly deserves the seat ahead of Schumi meaning after that race performance he HAS to retire? Its just pathetic and impossible to have a decent debate with so many nonsense posts.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 13:58

LOL is this what Schumacher fans have been reduced to? celebrating over practice times and finishing a lap down in 6th place? LOL

#10122 rommel

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 13:59

Do you think Nico is a complete idiot to be faster and finish behind?


I'm not sure I see the correlation with Nico being an idiot and the difficulty of overtaking on this track. :confused:

#10123 DutchCruijff

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 13:59

Rosberg & MSC were like for like, maybe Schumi slightly faster, but yet again a supreme start from Schumacher and solid race throughout without any drama. Did well to fend off a Rosberg attack with the pits, 6th place the maximum that could be achieved with Alonso comfortably faster.

#10124 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:00

You can't have a mature discussion with an internet wind-up merchant.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:00

LOL is this what Schumacher fans have been reduced to? celebrating over practice times and finishing a lap down in 6th place? LOL


So , now of a sudden beating your teammate isn't important? :rotfl:

Merc is 4th best car.The end.

#10126 Professor Arturo

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:00

You did notice who finished ahead from that team no? Do you think Nico is a complete idiot to be faster and finish behind?

This is not the first time in racing history where a faster guy finishes behind a slower guy, because they just couldnt get past. It is as simple as that. Nico was faster, MS was better because he finished in front. Does that satisfy your fanboyism?

#10127 EdwardCullen

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:01

Fantastic start from Schumy, that was just mindblowing....and was clearly terrifying to watch the onboard shots :up:

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:01

Does anybody on the grid start better than Michael? I think not! Great result today, a master class in defensive driving and did you hear the silence from DC and Brundle on the BBC commentary? Remember last race when they outright said he didn't know how to defend because "he's never been challenged in his career".........yeah.

#10129 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:02

LOL is this what Schumacher fans have been reduced to? celebrating over practice times and finishing a lap down in 6th place? LOL


Well obviously we cant celebrate Nico 'Ayrton Senna' Rosberg's 7th place and his domination of MS today.

#10130 Massa_f1

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:02

LOL is this what Schumacher fans have been reduced to? celebrating over practice times and finishing a lap down in 6th place? LOL


What is not to pleased about finishing 6th in the fourth fastest car on race trim. I am pleased with that as it was the max he could do.

Edited by Massa_f1, 22 May 2011 - 14:04.


#10131 EdwardCullen

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:03

LOL is this what Schumacher fans have been reduced to? celebrating over practice times and finishing a lap down in 6th place? LOL

Yeah its really poor isnt it, having the fastest car and not able to beat your teammate!

Oh wait! :wave:

#10132 EdwardCullen

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:04

Does anybody on the grid start better than Michael? I think not! Great result today, a master class in defensive driving and did you hear the silence from DC and Brundle on the BBC commentary? Remember last race when they outright said he didn't know how to defend because "he's never been challenged in his career".........yeah.

Yeah his starts have been fantastic :up:

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:04

yeah nico looked quicker but at every stop michael pulled ahead - better in/out and therefore some tyre saving going onn. nico never got close enough to ever make an attempt.

move of the race was michael turn 3 lap 1

sensational

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:04

So , now of a sudden beating your teammate isn't important? :rotfl:

Merc is 4th best car.The end.

:wave:



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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:05

LOL is this what Schumacher fans have been reduced to? celebrating over practice times and finishing a lap down in 6th place? LOL

Like Alonso fans, what else to do? They both need to retire, Yes?


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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:08

Birelman, you're just a shit-stirring troll.

You have no interest in MS, so **** off and go love up your favorite driver.

I don't see a huge celebration here, I see a satisfaction that MS maximized his chance and got the best result available for the team, holding off his teammate on the way. He did all that could reasonably be expected of him today given the car is clearly 4th best on the grid.
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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:08

LOL is this what Schumacher fans have been reduced to? celebrating over practice times and finishing a lap down in 6th place? LOL

LOL this is all the bashers can say after a good race?
I am not impressed, please try harder

#10138 Augurk

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:16

So, to sum it up: MSC had a great start, ROS kept his position.
MSC got the "look after the tyres message" from radio.
MSC stayed ahead, ROS seemed to catch him.
ROS was able to use DRS practically every lap being less than a second behind MSC, but never got past.
After pitstops MSC was still ahead, by quite some margin.
ROS made up the margin, but his tyres seemed to go off sooner than MSC.

Conclusion: MSC was preserving tyres, ROS was all-out. That might be why there was the "Nico - Radio?" pit sign on.

MSC won this race over ROS at the start.

#10139 spacekid

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:16

LOL is this what Schumacher fans have been reduced to? celebrating over practice times and finishing a lap down in 6th place? LOL


Yesterday plenty of Alonso fans were applauding a terrific qualifying lap from the man. As was I.

Reduced to celebrating qualifying in 4th? No, celebrating a great drive.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:17

Good for you, Michael. Ignore Autosport. Looking towards tommorrow.

#10141 Tarzaan

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:20

Brilliant start, good job in the race, terrible car. Worst than last year.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:48

Great job today actually. His starts continue to be incredible.

#10143 EdwardCullen

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:54

Great job today actually. His starts continue to be incredible.

:up:

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:56

LOL is this what Schumacher fans have been reduced to? celebrating over practice times and finishing a lap down in 6th place? LOL


I guess Alonso is terrible too, being lapped as well. :rolleyes: MS got the maximum out of his car, unless of course you think the Merc is better than Mac, Red Bull, and Ferrari????

#10145 iakhtar

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 14:58

It's kinda weird as MS never used to be a great starter, Schumi chop etc.

#10146 SCUDmissile

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 15:18

Well done michael. :up:
nostalgia still makes me want him to do well. great race today.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 16:13

Birelman, you're just a shit-stirring troll.

You have no interest in MS, so **** off and go love up your favorite driver.

I don't see a huge celebration here, I see a satisfaction that MS maximized his chance and got the best result available for the team, holding off his teammate on the way. He did all that could reasonably be expected of him today given the car is clearly 4th best on the grid.
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LOL I love it!!!

hey, don't let me spoil the Schumi ego stroking party.....Stroke on!!!! :up:

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 20:14

Decent race by MS today. I hope better results are yet to come, along with better car of course.

#10149 glorius&victorius

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 20:23

I am struck how people can be ecstatic about this result. The man was constantly shadowed by his team mate who had a broken DRS, That is pretty depressing to me.



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Posted 22 May 2011 - 20:24

Its just ridiculous. I'm happy to agree that Nico generally has a pace advantage over Schumi. Where I feel Nico needs to improve is his race craft a little (I'll take this over to the Nico Schumi thread but won't get a much better response).

So as a Schumi fan I'm happy to have a sensible debate about it.

BUT! I think Nico is a great driver, very talented and much younger than Schumi. And look, Schumi beat him in FP3 and some of the Qs so he is hardly slow. Who on the grid in a car below the Mercedes would definately beat Nico? Sutil? Petrov? I don't think so. Probably not Massa either. is di Resta after 5 races proven to take that seat before he learns his trade? No. So who exactly deserves the seat ahead of Schumi meaning after that race performance he HAS to retire? Its just pathetic and impossible to have a decent debate with so many nonsense posts.



Couldn't agree more. This is why we use ignore function so much and only talk among ourselves ;)