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#10201 Frans

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 14:31

However how amusing it is to watch him fail miserably, I have seen men cry because of his results.

Is that normal? I mean, I am fan from like Jos Verstappen, but never was crying for crying out loud.

And it's incredible how much optimism they (his cult-fans) have, race after race.... kudo's, because I know it won't last another 8 races....

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#10202 EdwardCullen

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 14:43

It was up to him to do it? I doubt ,but don't mind me. Last year Suzuka race, Michael could catch Lewis who have real problems, but didn't because of slower Nico. When Nico crashed Michael pace improve by 1,5 sec(from 1:36.6 to 1:35.1). So, I don't care what Nico could have done.

exactly

#10203 jonnoj

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 14:53

However how amusing it is to watch him fail miserably, I have seen men cry because of his results.

Is that normal? I mean, I am fan from like Jos Verstappen, but never was crying for crying out loud.

And it's incredible how much optimism they (his cult-fans) have, race after race.... kudo's, because I know it won't last another 8 races....



They are living their lives through their heroes - sad innit. In today's 'hit thread' about Ferrari, you'll see fans discussing events using 'we' as if they too are part of the Ferrari team. Blurred reality.




#10204 tifosi4life

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 14:57

However how amusing it is to watch him fail miserably, I have seen men cry because of his results.

Is that normal? I mean, I am fan from like Jos Verstappen, but never was crying for crying out loud.

And it's incredible how much optimism they (his cult-fans) have, race after race.... kudo's, because I know it won't last another 8 races....


your hate and negativity towards all things Michael Schumacher is amazing. I have put up with you for far too long and I could use a lot less of you... welcome to my black list Frans ):

#10205 BRK

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 15:03

They are living their lives through their heroes - sad innit. In today's 'hit thread' about Ferrari, you'll see fans discussing events using 'we' as if they too are part of the Ferrari team. Blurred reality.


You don't think those on the other side of the fence are doing the same?

#10206 eriknaa

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 15:09

You don't think those on the other side of the fence are doing the same?


Thanks for the support BRK, indeed WE are suporting Michael, cause WE are his fans, and everything regarding him we want the best to happen.
And WE are supporting Michael and the team in the best way possible, great to see other fellow fans understanding this.
And yeah i am sure Mclaren and Renault fans are doing the same. It is actually pretty normal. For crying out loud, let pepole have idols and heros they can look up to.

#10207 Birelman

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 17:30

You don't think those on the other side of the fence are doing the same?

well, I don't :p

#10208 sharo

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 19:41

Good and stable race by Michel. So far, so much with the car they both have currently.

#10209 puxanando

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 21:19

Michaels sponsors are bored.....

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 16:29

If you exlude the first race of the season where neither driver finished, the scorecard for the last 8 races is 4:4. But, I believe that the gap between finishing positions shows that Schumacher is ahead of Rosberg. For all those who keep saying Schumacher is too slow, think again. Bear in mind that despite the level scorecard over this period, Schumacher has suffered KERs issues 3 times in qualifying, unlike Rosberg who has had a mechanically perfect car for qualifying.

#10211 ali.unal

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 17:01

Michaels sponsors are bored.....

Is this a reliable source? German folks?

#10212 puxanando

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 17:08

Is this a reliable source? German folks?

Yes it is. Would say the same level like Autosport

#10213 ali.unal

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 17:09

Yes it is. Would say the same level like Autosport

Then it's depressing :well:

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 17:35

Then it's depressing :well:

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No it is not? Ask puxanando to explain you, what is in this article? Some English professor opinion that Michael brand value drops gradually. Nothing else. It is not opinion of his sponsors. It is article to make headlines, nothing more. Useless stuff.
What his sponsors think:"Audemars Piguet stressed that it was "primarily the man and his entire career," who had moved to the watch brand to sponsor the Mercedes drivers. Navyboot chief Faris Momani called Schumacher even as "legend" and believes in a more successful future of its advertising medium: "We are very confident that he will find back to winning ways."

Edited by ivand911, 25 May 2011 - 17:38.


#10215 EdwardCullen

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Posted 25 May 2011 - 19:17

Michaels sponsors are bored.....

It also contains these words in the end. :well:

These brands would have the name of Schumacher, the values ​​of tradition and success bought with said Simon Chadwick, professor of sports and business strategy at Coventry University. "With every race he has not ceased or where he is not scoring, brand value drops are successively "," will Chadwick of 'Bloomberg quoted as saying.(NOT THE SPONSORS)

But still qualities are the sponsors of Schumacher (advertising) is convinced. Audemars Piguet stressed that "it is primarily the man and his entire career had been "that have led to the watch brand, the Mercedes driver to sponsor. Navyboot chief Faris Momani called Schumacher even as "legend" and believes in a more successful future of its advertising medium: "We are very confident that he will find the winning ways back on."

Edited by EdwardCullen, 25 May 2011 - 19:21.


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Posted 25 May 2011 - 19:48

If you exlude the first race of the season where neither driver finished, the scorecard for the last 8 races is 4:4. But, I believe that the gap between finishing positions shows that Schumacher is ahead of Rosberg. For all those who keep saying Schumacher is too slow, think again. Bear in mind that despite the level scorecard over this period, Schumacher has suffered KERs issues 3 times in qualifying, unlike Rosberg who has had a mechanically perfect car for qualifying.


I should resurrect a graph I started last year and update it race by race, showing a rolling performance of these two since Michaels return.

Ill emphasise now that I believe Rosberg is ahead still on any useful measure, but indeed if you look at the last half a season or so there is really almost nothing in it.. closest pair in any team I think.

#10217 Sakae

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 00:30

Michael is cool to potential tire performance in Sunday's race.

Edited by Sakae, 26 May 2011 - 00:32.


#10218 ivand911

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:35

I hope team will repair Michael car for FP2. I don't know what happen there. It was odd.

#10219 baddog

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:37

Will be easily repaired, new suspension most likely all thats needed.

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#10220 Number62

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:38

I hope team will repair Michael car for FP2. I don't know what happen there. It was odd.


Looks like he slowed down to find some track space, maybe lost a couple of PSI or temp in the tyres.

The old boy's OK, that's the main thing.

Edited by Number62, 26 May 2011 - 09:39.


#10221 Frans

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 11:00

Nice...

#10222 merschu

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 13:11

Found a video of Michael's crash:

#10223 vovelo

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 15:51

Michael Schumacher (7th, 1:16.356): "Our gap to the front seems to be less here than in Barcelona. With my crash this morning, we had made a set-up change for the run and I locked up braking for turn one. After that, my decision to go down the escape road was too late, which is why I hit the barrier. The mechanics did a super job and the car this afternoon was just as quick as this morning. What Nico showed in terms of one-lap pace looks good, and our long runs were also quite reasonable."

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 16:07

Lets hope this is good news for Merc.

#10225 ivand911

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 13:39

P5 is not bad for Michael.

#10226 Ali_G

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 13:40

Good qual from MS.

Not a word from Brundle or Coulthard about him.

#10227 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 13:40

5 is on the inside here? let's hope he gets another fantastic start

#10228 arknor

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 13:42

Good qual from MS.

Not a word from Brundle or Coulthard about him.

they goto keep the negative schumacher persona beeing slowly brainwashed until armchair warrior minds

#10229 Herth

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 13:48

Funniest thing was them bashing MS after Q1, while Rosberg clearly came out from the pits with Super Softs all the way. He was on Super Softs from the beginning, so he could secure getting into Q2 and then getting some running in the track after missing the FP3 this morning.

Lets hope MS gets a good start tomorrow as usual and gets a good strategy from the team!

#10230 DutchCruijff

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 13:49

They didn't spot the fact that Rosberg was supersofts - DC didn't even know the colours - and they conveniently didn't spot Alonso & Vettel whooping Massa's & Webber's ass whilst on the same tyres.

#10231 ivand911

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 13:56

Great Qualy by Michael. I don't mean only the result, but the way he did it. Getting early on the track ,doing good laps early. For the first time he improved his times trough Qualy. He did a lot of laps, I hope this will not be a problem with tyres for tomorrow. I hope they learn from this Qualy and will do it this way from now on. Also I very like him doing early laps on free track in FP3. Fingers crossed for tomorrow.

Edited by ivand911, 28 May 2011 - 13:56.


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Posted 28 May 2011 - 13:57

:)

I think he could beat Alonso on the start.

#10233 ivand911

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 13:59

Nice...

:up: :p

:)
I think he could beat Alonso on the start.

I hope Michael will finish tomorrow.

Edited by ivand911, 28 May 2011 - 14:01.


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Posted 28 May 2011 - 14:04

I hope he goes all in at T1 tomorrow.
He just said he thinks they┬┤ll look better in the race than in quali today.

#10235 exmayol

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 15:13

Great job Michael! Good luck in the race!

#10236 weston

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 15:40

Schumacher: "...I benefited a little from the circumstances and probably P7 on the grid would have been more realistic. Having said that, our car looks better in race trim this weekend, so with another good start, I will try to make the most out of it. Overtaking is known to be more difficult here than at most other circuits, so it will come down to having the right strategy, especially because the tyres should last longer than in recent races and we can expect fewer stops."

Fair comment.
Max. 2 stops in the race?

#10237 Diablobb81

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 15:44

Schumacher: "...I benefited a little from the circumstances and probably P7 on the grid would have been more realistic. Having said that, our car looks better in race trim this weekend, so with another good start, I will try to make the most out of it. Overtaking is known to be more difficult here than at most other circuits, so it will come down to having the right strategy, especially because the tyres should last longer than in recent races and we can expect fewer stops."

Fair comment.
Max. 2 stops in the race?


Merc is still the 4th fastest car, sadly. But Michael (under identical circumstances) managed to drive a good lap, beat his q2 time, and even beat a Ferrari and a McLaren (Lewis' fault for not having a safety lap).

Hopefully all the concentration on race pace will help.

Edited by Diablobb81, 28 May 2011 - 15:44.


#10238 jjpm

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 21:31

IMO, Webber and Alonso are not usually making very great starts with, of course, the exception of Fernando in Spain, so I think it quite possible for Michael to reach to third position at the end of the 1st lap.
Then I feel he may have an psychological edge over Button and Vettel while chasing them.
Anyway, I hope to see this scenario take place and wishes him an excellent GP.

And very sorry for you Rommel :smoking: :clap:

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 22:00

IMO, Webber and Alonso are not usually making very great starts with, of course, the exception of Fernando in Spain, so I think it quite possible for Michael to reach to third position at the end of the 1st lap.
Then I feel he may have an psychological edge over Button and Vettel while chasing them.
Anyway, I hope to see this scenario take place and wishes him an excellent GP.

And very sorry for you Rommel :smoking: :clap:

Hmmmm I don't know about that, I think that would be the dream scenario for both Vettel and Button as they know Schumacher's MGP isn't as fast as their cars.

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 22:02

Hmmmm I don't know about that, I think that would be the dream scenario for both Vettel and Button as they know Schumacher's MGP isn't as fast as their cars.

I'd agree with this. I think, realistically, a podium is Schumacher's best possible result tomorrow--and I'm sure Vettel and Button would love to have him ahead of Alonso, Webber, Hamilton and co. as well.

#10241 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 22:08

Good qual from MS.

Not a word from Brundle or Coulthard about him.


P5 from Schumacher was 'decent' according to Eddie Jordan.

P5 from Rosberg and it would have been 'fantastic' and warranted the firing of Schumacher.


I guess kicking ass from 1991-2006 really affected these guys very badly psychologically.

#10242 steveninthematrix

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 10:56

look, brundle and DC dont like MS, its that simple...

a few weeks ago, I said, MS would get his first Merc podium at Monaco, so far, I'm not too far off....

lets see what happens, maybe get Webber or Alonso at the start?

and i know overtaking is massively difficult, but Michael did start last in 06 and Alonso did start last , last year... and where did they end up? wasn't it 5th and 6th respectively :)

Michael trusts Ross's opinion, and Ross would tell him, his days are over... they're not... Michael just misses the more HP and the over-steery grippier front tires

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:05

look, brundle and DC dont like MS, its that simple...

a few weeks ago, I said, MS would get his first Merc podium at Monaco, so far, I'm not too far off....


Agreed.

However yesterday, Brundle was actually praising schumacher as opposed to DC who just sat there and kept his mouth shut on the subject of MSC.

#10244 Ali_G

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:06

P5 from Schumacher was 'decent' according to Eddie Jordan.

P5 from Rosberg and it would have been 'fantastic' and warranted the firing of Schumacher.


I guess kicking ass from 1991-2006 really affected these guys very badly psychologically.


You can tell that both EJ and DC really dislike Schumacher. EJ for obvious reasons after Spa 1991. DC thought is just rotten jealous that MS has 7 WDC and DC does not. Are the two even on talking terms after Spa 98 ?

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:29

It's pretty laughable when the winner of 13 GP (DC) criticizes the winner of 7 Championships :D

Edited by MCh000, 29 May 2011 - 11:29.


#10246 arknor

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:50

You can tell that both EJ and DC really dislike Schumacher. EJ for obvious reasons after Spa 1991. DC thought is just rotten jealous that MS has 7 WDC and DC does not. Are the two even on talking terms after Spa 98 ?

DC doesnt seem to remember his career how it actually was... anyone remember the start of spa 98 the first one... coulthards career was full of clumsy manouvers and silly mistakes

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:52

You can tell that both EJ and DC really dislike Schumacher. EJ for obvious reasons after Spa 1991. DC thought is just rotten jealous that MS has 7 WDC and DC does not. Are the two even on talking terms after Spa 98 ?

Not sure but DC has openly admitted that it was his fault for the incident at Spa.

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:55

DC doesnt seem to remember his career how it actually was... anyone remember the start of spa 98 the first one... coulthards career was full of clumsy manouvers and silly mistakes

Surely it comes from the fact DC knows he missed "his year" after quitting in 2008, the year before RBR turned a winner.

#10249 Ali_G

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 12:01

Not sure but DC has openly admitted that it was his fault for the incident at Spa.


Didn't realise this.

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 12:18

Bugger on the start. Need to see a different stratergy to have any chance now.