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#10251 Tarzaan

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 13:57

:)

I think he could beat Alonso on the start.

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#10252 ivand911

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 13:59

Nice...

:up: :p

:)
I think he could beat Alonso on the start.

I hope Michael will finish tomorrow.

Edited by ivand911, 28 May 2011 - 14:01.


#10253 Urawa

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 14:04

I hope he goes all in at T1 tomorrow.
He just said he thinks they┬┤ll look better in the race than in quali today.

#10254 exmayol

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 15:13

Great job Michael! Good luck in the race!

#10255 weston

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 15:40

Schumacher: "...I benefited a little from the circumstances and probably P7 on the grid would have been more realistic. Having said that, our car looks better in race trim this weekend, so with another good start, I will try to make the most out of it. Overtaking is known to be more difficult here than at most other circuits, so it will come down to having the right strategy, especially because the tyres should last longer than in recent races and we can expect fewer stops."

Fair comment.
Max. 2 stops in the race?

#10256 Diablobb81

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 15:44

Schumacher: "...I benefited a little from the circumstances and probably P7 on the grid would have been more realistic. Having said that, our car looks better in race trim this weekend, so with another good start, I will try to make the most out of it. Overtaking is known to be more difficult here than at most other circuits, so it will come down to having the right strategy, especially because the tyres should last longer than in recent races and we can expect fewer stops."

Fair comment.
Max. 2 stops in the race?


Merc is still the 4th fastest car, sadly. But Michael (under identical circumstances) managed to drive a good lap, beat his q2 time, and even beat a Ferrari and a McLaren (Lewis' fault for not having a safety lap).

Hopefully all the concentration on race pace will help.

Edited by Diablobb81, 28 May 2011 - 15:44.


#10257 jjpm

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 21:31

IMO, Webber and Alonso are not usually making very great starts with, of course, the exception of Fernando in Spain, so I think it quite possible for Michael to reach to third position at the end of the 1st lap.
Then I feel he may have an psychological edge over Button and Vettel while chasing them.
Anyway, I hope to see this scenario take place and wishes him an excellent GP.

And very sorry for you Rommel :smoking: :clap:

#10258 Birelman

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 22:00

IMO, Webber and Alonso are not usually making very great starts with, of course, the exception of Fernando in Spain, so I think it quite possible for Michael to reach to third position at the end of the 1st lap.
Then I feel he may have an psychological edge over Button and Vettel while chasing them.
Anyway, I hope to see this scenario take place and wishes him an excellent GP.

And very sorry for you Rommel :smoking: :clap:

Hmmmm I don't know about that, I think that would be the dream scenario for both Vettel and Button as they know Schumacher's MGP isn't as fast as their cars.

#10259 Afterburner

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 22:02

Hmmmm I don't know about that, I think that would be the dream scenario for both Vettel and Button as they know Schumacher's MGP isn't as fast as their cars.

I'd agree with this. I think, realistically, a podium is Schumacher's best possible result tomorrow--and I'm sure Vettel and Button would love to have him ahead of Alonso, Webber, Hamilton and co. as well.

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#10260 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 22:08

Good qual from MS.

Not a word from Brundle or Coulthard about him.


P5 from Schumacher was 'decent' according to Eddie Jordan.

P5 from Rosberg and it would have been 'fantastic' and warranted the firing of Schumacher.


I guess kicking ass from 1991-2006 really affected these guys very badly psychologically.

#10261 steveninthematrix

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 10:56

look, brundle and DC dont like MS, its that simple...

a few weeks ago, I said, MS would get his first Merc podium at Monaco, so far, I'm not too far off....

lets see what happens, maybe get Webber or Alonso at the start?

and i know overtaking is massively difficult, but Michael did start last in 06 and Alonso did start last , last year... and where did they end up? wasn't it 5th and 6th respectively :)

Michael trusts Ross's opinion, and Ross would tell him, his days are over... they're not... Michael just misses the more HP and the over-steery grippier front tires

#10262 differential

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:05

look, brundle and DC dont like MS, its that simple...

a few weeks ago, I said, MS would get his first Merc podium at Monaco, so far, I'm not too far off....


Agreed.

However yesterday, Brundle was actually praising schumacher as opposed to DC who just sat there and kept his mouth shut on the subject of MSC.

#10263 Ali_G

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:06

P5 from Schumacher was 'decent' according to Eddie Jordan.

P5 from Rosberg and it would have been 'fantastic' and warranted the firing of Schumacher.


I guess kicking ass from 1991-2006 really affected these guys very badly psychologically.


You can tell that both EJ and DC really dislike Schumacher. EJ for obvious reasons after Spa 1991. DC thought is just rotten jealous that MS has 7 WDC and DC does not. Are the two even on talking terms after Spa 98 ?

#10264 MCh000

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:29

It's pretty laughable when the winner of 13 GP (DC) criticizes the winner of 7 Championships :D

Edited by MCh000, 29 May 2011 - 11:29.


#10265 arknor

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:50

You can tell that both EJ and DC really dislike Schumacher. EJ for obvious reasons after Spa 1991. DC thought is just rotten jealous that MS has 7 WDC and DC does not. Are the two even on talking terms after Spa 98 ?

DC doesnt seem to remember his career how it actually was... anyone remember the start of spa 98 the first one... coulthards career was full of clumsy manouvers and silly mistakes

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:52

You can tell that both EJ and DC really dislike Schumacher. EJ for obvious reasons after Spa 1991. DC thought is just rotten jealous that MS has 7 WDC and DC does not. Are the two even on talking terms after Spa 98 ?

Not sure but DC has openly admitted that it was his fault for the incident at Spa.

#10267 Augurk

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 11:55

DC doesnt seem to remember his career how it actually was... anyone remember the start of spa 98 the first one... coulthards career was full of clumsy manouvers and silly mistakes

Surely it comes from the fact DC knows he missed "his year" after quitting in 2008, the year before RBR turned a winner.

#10268 Ali_G

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 12:01

Not sure but DC has openly admitted that it was his fault for the incident at Spa.


Didn't realise this.

#10269 Richardc

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 12:18

Bugger on the start. Need to see a different stratergy to have any chance now.

#10270 Ali_G

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 13:18

That Merc really does chew up it's tyres.

Some nice overtakes by MS into Lowes today.

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 13:20

This race probably made me more angry than any other race since his come back.

Now he has a bad start, now is Merc completely horrible on full fuel although they concentrated on race pace, now Rosberg decides not to move over, now the new airbox catches fire..Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

#10272 spacekid

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 13:23

This race probably made me more angry than any other race since his come back.

Now he has a bad start, now is Merc completely horrible on full fuel although they concentrated on race pace, now Rosberg decides not to move over, now the new airbox catches fire..Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu


I share your pain buuuut....

One reason I've always loved Michael is because he has always, always entertained me.

And today he was damned entertaining :)

Good fun and definately still worth his place on the grid based on his last couple of race weekends. Not bad for someone double the age of the youngest kids in the sport. Not bad at all.

#10273 Diablobb81

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 13:25

And today he was damned entertaining :)


Didn't you hear the morons on BBC? He has no race craft. And in the mean time Rosberg couldn't overtake anyone and half the grid was playing bumper cars.

#10274 arknor

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 13:40

at one point brundle said schumacher was well down in 20th place aswell ...

failed to notice schumacher was gaining at some 1-2 seconds a lap on rosberg who was stuck behind glock for almost an eternity

#10275 Tarzaan

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 14:17

Bugger on the start. Need to see a different stratergy to have any chance now.



Somebody wrote in other place that a lot of Merc echanic wors in Michaels car before the start. Maybe he had a clutch problem.

#10276 Massa_f1

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 14:21

Didn't you hear the morons on BBC? He has no race craft. And in the mean time Rosberg couldn't overtake anyone and half the grid was playing bumper cars.



All i have to say is if Schumacher done what Hamilton did today they would be calling for his head in a real way. Schumacher no race craft. Your having a laugh arent you BBC. He passed twice with no contact wonderfull moves.

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 14:21

I was expecting more from Mercedes, like Spain, Monaco is another MS zone where he gives it his all whatever the position, but he deserved a better race car today to do something, last year Mercedes had better race performance as par qualifying. Worrying team performance, they need immediate reaction.

#10278 JtP1

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 14:24

Did anyone else reckon that Brundle might not get an interview with MSC during the grid walkabout?

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 14:25

Most disappointing race since his comeback together Suzuka/Montreal last year, as I felt there was a very good result possible today even with the ****ed up start/1. stint

Edited by Urawa, 29 May 2011 - 14:25.


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Posted 29 May 2011 - 14:26

Most disappointing race since his comeback together Suzuka/Montreal last year, as I felt there was a very good result possbile today even with the ****ed up start/1. stint

Exactly, he was pretty much just coming into rascasse when the safety car came out, he was in the optimal position to make a stop without losing anything and gain quite a few places on those in front!

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 14:28

Did anyone else reckon that Brundle might not get an interview with MSC during the grid walkabout?


I wonder why :p

I'm not slamming Hamilton here, a racer has to go for it at Monaco.

BUT if Michael had had Lewis' race here then MC, DC and especially Eddie Jordan would be all over his case saying he has no race craft and should retire or be fired because he can't drive. I'm not gonna be overly critical of Lewis, but Michael gets a far, far harder time for much less.

#10282 Longtimefan

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 14:29

I wonder why :p

I'm not slamming Hamilton here, a racer has to go for it at Monaco.

BUT if Michael had had Lewis' race here then MC, DC and especially Eddie Jordan would be all over his case saying he has no race craft and should retire or be fired because he can't drive. I'm not gonna be overly critical of Lewis, but Michael gets a far, far harder time for much less.


Agreed 100%



#10283 ivand911

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 14:30

Exactly, he was pretty much just coming into rascasse when the safety car came out, he was in the optimal position to make a stop without losing anything and gain quite a few places on those in front!

:up: He have chances to get in top10. His pace was good after first pit. Now he is back behind Koba in WDC. :rolleyes:


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Posted 29 May 2011 - 14:30

Agreed 100%


I love the BBC coverage and I'm sad to say I agree absofuckinglutely with the post above. :up:

#10285 Massa_f1

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 14:32

Ok i hate Eddie Jordon.

#10286 merschu

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 14:36

Ok i hate Eddie Jordon.


Why? What did he say now?

Edited by merschu, 29 May 2011 - 14:36.


#10287 Richardc

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 14:37

Some more inaccurate bullshit focussing on the wrong things...

#10288 EdwardCullen

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 14:38

Why do u guys even care what these stupid DC, MB & EJ say

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 14:45

1st ever complaint I've sent to the BBC... will see what, if any response I get !

Dear Sir,

I wish to complain about the ridiculous criticism directed towards Michael Schumacher at the end of the above mentioned Grand Prix by your selected pundit Eddie Jordan.

Over the past few races it has become apparent that Mr Jordan has lost his objectivity towards Schumacher and is incapable of providing a fair & balanced opinion towards the quality of his performances.

Mr Jordan is employed to provide knowledge, professionalism and a sound judgement and his recent comments have failed on all levels. He should be reminded that his responsibility is not to be controversial but accurate and had he not taken his pre-conceived ideas into the discussion he would have seen many other drivers more worthy of criticism, not least Lewis Hamilton.

On the flip side, talking about the positives in the race can be such hard work!!!!

Please direct Mr Jordan to expend less energy choosing a diabolical wardrobe and more on following the race accurately and providing viewers with a cultured & informed review when he is blessed with the airtime.

Regards

*******

#10290 iakhtar

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 14:48

Nice complaint, I would've just wrote Eddie and his wig can go f-off lol

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 14:53

Nice complaint, I would've just wrote Eddie and his wig can go f-off lol



Ahem, I may have referred to Eddie in very unflattering (though totally accurate) terms on the BBC thread... my comment vanished. (Which is fair enough as it was very close to the bone - I may have compared EJ to female genitalia ;-)

#10292 Diablobb81

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 14:53

MSC interview

Anti-stall kicked in at start. He said he did everything normal.
Lost downforce after wing damage in first stint.
Good pace after FW and tire change.
Had to make a move on Rosberg because of different strategy.
Airbox problem caused retirement.

#10293 PoliFanAthic

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 14:54

And the loss of downforce due to the damaged wing also lead to an excessive tyre wear.

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 14:56

Pity. He had the speed after first stop and overtaking Rosberg who was holding him and was quite slower for some reason.

Edited by sharo, 29 May 2011 - 14:57.


#10295 Augurk

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 14:57

Pity. He had the speed after first stop and overtaking Rosberg who was holding him and was quite slower for some reason.

He had the same pace as the front runners when he finally had clean air (on fresher tyres of course, but he could've ended up in the top 6 i think)

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 15:01

Did anyone notice how Schumacher put his foot on the brakes, when his car broke and when Alonso was just behind him and entered the pits? Alonso had to brake as well there for a moment! hmmmmm

Edited by Frans, 29 May 2011 - 15:03.


#10297 Spa One

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 15:02


What did EJ say?



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Posted 29 May 2011 - 15:26

1st ever complaint I've sent to the BBC... will see what, if any response I get !

Dear Sir,

I wish to complain about the ridiculous criticism directed towards Michael Schumacher at the end of the above mentioned Grand Prix by your selected pundit Eddie Jordan.

Over the past few races it has become apparent that Mr Jordan has lost his objectivity towards Schumacher and is incapable of providing a fair & balanced opinion towards the quality of his performances.

Mr Jordan is employed to provide knowledge, professionalism and a sound judgement and his recent comments have failed on all levels. He should be reminded that his responsibility is not to be controversial but accurate and had he not taken his pre-conceived ideas into the discussion he would have seen many other drivers more worthy of criticism, not least Lewis Hamilton.

On the flip side, talking about the positives in the race can be such hard work!!!!

Please direct Mr Jordan to expend less energy choosing a diabolical wardrobe and more on following the race accurately and providing viewers with a cultured & informed review when he is blessed with the airtime.

Regards

*******

Wow (factor). :up:

#10299 JtP1

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 15:30

It's pretty laughable when the winner of 13 GP (DC) criticizes the winner of 7 Championships :D


DC must remember some of his career from the quote "I would have just turned in on him"

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 15:37

He had the same pace as the front runners when he finally had clean air (on fresher tyres of course, but he could've ended up in the top 6 i think)

Schumacher was actually on older tyres then the front runners, because he made an early stop. I saw Schumacher making an 1:19:8 just after he had passed Rosberg. At that time he was fourth fastest of the field and the front runners had already made their first pitstop.