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#10301 ivand911

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 15:38

What Michael show today make me optimistic, but car make me pessimistic. Such shame for his car problem.

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#10302 thrillercd

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 15:48

Guys do you know what happened Michael's front wing ? Was it broken when battling with Hamilton ?

#10303 ivand911

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 15:50

Guys do you know what happened Michael's front wing ? Was it broken when battling with Hamilton ?

Yes.

#10304 thrillercd

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 15:52

Yes.

thanks

#10305 thrillercd

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 15:57

It was good to see him overtaking both Hamilton and Nico at Monaco but it is pity he did not get what he deserved.

#10306 F1 Tor.

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 15:58

Poor start cost him dearly, but I thought his tussle with Lewis was fun to watch and fair. Just needs a better car and consistency at this point. Was probably cursing when Rubens passed him. He must have thought, "Anyone but him." ;)

#10307 Sakae

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 16:05

Guys do you know what happened Michael's front wing ? Was it broken when battling with Hamilton ?


He lost downforce due to damage.

#10308 BRK

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 16:14

Devastating DNF, he was on a different strategy to those around hm and would've made it work judging by his pace. (and by the way JB's race worked out) Very disappointed.

#10309 spacekid

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 16:31

Guys I missed Schumi's interview because I was busy typing furiously away about what a knob Eddie Jordan is. Always a valuable way to spend my time.

Did he explain what happened at the start to cause him to bog down. Was it a Schumi error or a car problem?

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 16:42

Did he explain what happened at the start to cause him to bog down. Was it a Schumi error or a car problem?


He said he did everything normal, but anti-stall kicked in.

We'll probably know more in the next days.


#10311 spacekid

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 16:45

He said he did everything normal, but anti-stall kicked in.

We'll probably know more in the next days.


Ah ok cheers!! Schumi is certainly not above errors, but the way the Mercs are at the moment some sort of reliability issue there seems very likely.

I don't think the team have got both cars through a weekend yet without something breaking.

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 16:52

Guys I missed Schumi's interview because I was busy typing furiously away about what a knob Eddie Jordan is. Always a valuable way to spend my time.

Did he explain what happened at the start to cause him to bog down. Was it a Schumi error or a car problem?


Yes. During the start sequence software switched to anti-stall mode and gear went to neutral.

#10313 Massa_f1

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 16:54

Ah ok cheers!! Schumi is certainly not above errors, but the way the Mercs are at the moment some sort of reliability issue there seems very likely.

I don't think the team have got both cars through a weekend yet without something breaking.



I knew he was going to DNF here by the way his car was letting of a bit of smoke on the gird when Brundle was beside it talking.

#10314 dav115

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 17:00

Schumacher's start did look odd - he seemed initially to get away fine and then it wasn't like the car bogged down, it just went into anti-stall for no reason.That said I need to watch the onboard replay a few more times because it was hard to hear the engine sound with commentary over it.

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 17:03

1st ever complaint I've sent to the BBC... will see what, if any response I get !

Dear Sir,

I wish to complain about the ridiculous criticism directed towards Michael Schumacher at the end of the above mentioned Grand Prix by your selected pundit Eddie Jordan.

Over the past few races it has become apparent that Mr Jordan has lost his objectivity towards Schumacher and is incapable of providing a fair & balanced opinion towards the quality of his performances.

Mr Jordan is employed to provide knowledge, professionalism and a sound judgement and his recent comments have failed on all levels. He should be reminded that his responsibility is not to be controversial but accurate and had he not taken his pre-conceived ideas into the discussion he would have seen many other drivers more worthy of criticism, not least Lewis Hamilton.

On the flip side, talking about the positives in the race can be such hard work!!!!

Please direct Mr Jordan to expend less energy choosing a diabolical wardrobe and more on following the race accurately and providing viewers with a cultured & informed review when he is blessed with the airtime.

Regards

*******

I find this quite sad :| why does the opinion of 3 people really bother you? just turn it off after the race, since they usually talk nonsense but to complain about it lol you really believe they will listen to you?


#10316 dav115

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 17:08

I find this quite sad :| why does the opinion of 3 people really bother you? just turn it off after the race, since they usually talk nonsense but to complain about it lol you really believe they will listen to you?

Because he's paying their salaries via his license fee.

#10317 MightyMoose

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 17:15

Interesting that you find it sad...... I watch a program with 3 people who are there to accurately inform me of events and give me an accurate interpretation of what went on during the race.

If they come on with a pre-conception about a driver then it taints what they're informing me. As for turning it off, what sort of plan is that? I watch the program every race and have done so for many years, I grew up with Murray & James. EJ is by far the most biased and inaccurate observer I've encountered, and it's not as if it's a one-off it's every single opportunity to stick the knife in.

If people tolerate rubbish presentation/reporting/coverage then you can never complain when you don't get what you want in the future.


#10318 SeanValen

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 17:18

I find this quite sad :| why does the opinion of 3 people really bother you? just turn it off after the race, since they usually talk nonsense but to complain about it lol you really believe they will listen to you?



Wasn't it some races ago, Eddie Jordan got asked a question about Schumacher criticizing from himself, perhaps someone else writ it and it worked.

MS was Martin's teamate, and Martin never went on to achieve anything big, it's kinda his regret, Johnny Herbert though is proper bitter when taking on MS's succcess at the same time there's hidden interest in the supreme brilliance he has shown in his career.
DC was Schumacher's rival and DC didn't go on to win big,
Eddie Jordan was initially the element that gave Schuey the chance to get into f1, but Schuey left the team to a better deal with Benetton, no doubt that early episode was a bittersweet moment, all three guys got into f1 but never had big time success quite like Michael, yet because they can commentate, it perhaps gives them the only arena left to pounce on Michael when needed be, in the media, and Michael was too busy working hard on success to be media PR guy sometimes.


Stirling Moss never won a title, he lived through a era of watching Michael win 7, seems a pattern of guys who didn't achieve big, have been MS's media crows.

Nigel Mansell and Damon Hill, both have raced with Michael. won and lost against him, talk quite respectly of him, even in his come back, so it really is the media with a select group that will field the fires, MS can only do talking on the track to quiet them when he can.

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#10319 Birelman

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 20:24

LOL Schumacher parking the Mercedes at Rascasse in front of Alonso!!!

Wasn't that appropriate? :rotfl:

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#10320 STRFerrari4Ever

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 20:34

LOL Schumacher parking the Mercedes at Rascasse in front of Alonso!!!

Wasn't that appropriate? :rotfl:

:lol: :lol:

Oh yeah.

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 20:35

1st ever complaint I've sent to the BBC... will see what, if any response I get !

Dear Sir,

I wish to complain -snip-

Please direct Mr Jordan to expend less energy choosing a diabolical wardrobe and more on following the race accurately and providing viewers with a cultured & informed review when he is blessed with the airtime.


:lol:

Note to Schumacher. and his supporters
'You meet the same people on the way down as you met on your way up. So, treat them well'




#10322 Diablobb81

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 20:38

:lol:

Note to Schumacher. and his supporters
'You meet the same people on the way down as you met on your way up. So, treat them well'


While Michael's return isn't stellar for now i don't think he ended up in the gutter.

#10323 four1

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 22:03

I was expecting more from Mercedes, like Spain, Monaco is another MS zone where he gives it his all whatever the position, but he deserved a better race car today to do something, last year Mercedes had better race performance as par qualifying. Worrying team performance, they need immediate reaction.

Agreed. They need to get rid of the over-hyped Brawn and replace him with Aldo Costa.

Edited by four1, 29 May 2011 - 22:06.


#10324 exmayol

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 22:06

Agreed. They need to get rid of the over-hyped Brawn and replace him with Aldo Costa.


What makes you prefer Costa over Brawn?

#10325 four1

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 22:18

What makes you prefer Costa over Brawn?

Not a question of preference. It's just that I am not one of these sheep who subscribe to the notion that Brawn is a guarantee to produce a winning team. There are hundreds of other team members involved in achieving championship victories. As it was at Ferrari.

#10326 black magic

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 23:40

he certainly moved off the line then it simply seemed to stop meaing the antistall got engaged presumably after the he got moving which is strange no?

I take back that i thought ms really looked passed it on friday struggling with the car and 1 lap pace. he looked fantastic in qualifying and even brundle gave him qudos for it. clean overtakes and headed further up the grid after the bad start - not bad for a guy nearly twice the age of many around him

#10327 Sakae

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 23:42

If Michael is going to be told what fans are saying, then I wish to say that he has my support, regardless of results. I feel sorry that he has to endure such conditions rather than having good racing on hands, but, its not over yet. Viel Glück, Junge!

Edited by Sakae, 29 May 2011 - 23:43.


#10328 Scotracer

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 23:54

I take consolation in the fact he overtook both Nico and Lewis under racing conditions today. And at the Grand Hotel Hairpin. That was nice. Very nice.

Really a pity though as he could have had a 4th or 5th place today, I think (top 3 too far ahead).

#10329 F1ultimate

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 00:01

Not a question of preference. It's just that I am not one of these sheep who subscribe to the notion that Brawn is a guarantee to produce a winning team. There are hundreds of other team members involved in achieving championship victories. As it was at Ferrari.


This.


I agree. Brawn is not like Newey the miracle man.

#10330 Birelman

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 07:24

New information, according to Adam Cooper:

"Apparently Schumacher had some bits of Massa's broken wheel embedded in his front suspension. Lucky he stopped when he did."


http://twitter.com/#!/adamcooperf1/sta...957633127329793

So, that could have been a third Lewis Hamilton victim!!!

Edited by Birelman, 30 May 2011 - 07:26.


#10331 merschu

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 07:24

New information, according to Adam Cooper:

Apparently Schumacher had some bits of Massa's broken wheel embedded in his front suspension. Lucky he stopped when he did.


http://twitter.com/#!/adamcooperf1/sta...957633127329793

Edited by merschu, 30 May 2011 - 07:25.


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Posted 30 May 2011 - 10:41

Michael Schumacher's new plane. :)

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Falcon 2000LX M-IKEL
http://www.flickr.co...757/5750584280/
http://www.flickr.co...esa/5742432173/


Edit: This was his old plane
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Comlux Aviation Falcon 2000 EASy HB-JEG

Edited by merschu, 30 May 2011 - 10:56.


#10333 thrillercd

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 10:47

If Michael is going to be told what fans are saying, then I wish to say that he has my support, regardless of results. I feel sorry that he has to endure such conditions rather than having good racing on hands, but, its not over yet. Viel Glück, Junge!

:up:

#10334 F1 Tor.

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 10:48

Michael Schumacher's new plane. :)

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http://www.flickr.co...757/5750584280/
http://www.flickr.co...esa/5742432173/



Reminds me of that famous quote from "The Edge", with Hopkins/Baldwin:"Never feel sorry for a man who owns a plane."

#10335 thrillercd

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 10:49

Michael Schumacher's new plane. :)


it is awesome :cool:

#10336 thrillercd

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 10:52

Reminds me of that famous quote from "The Edge", with Hopkins/Baldwin:"Never feel sorry for a man who owns a plane."


it is not valid for Michael. He is not a man he is a machine :lol:

#10337 Augurk

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 10:59

it is not valid for Michael. He is not a man he is a machine :lol:

He just plugs himself into the airplane. Amiright? :smoking:

#10338 Richardc

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 11:45

Silver for Merc?

#10339 thrillercd

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 12:56

He just plugs himself into the airplane. Amiright? :smoking:


Yeah :rotfl:

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#10340 ivand911

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 13:05

Michael Schumacher's new plane. :)
http://www.flickr.co...757/5750584280/
http://www.flickr.co...esa/5742432173/

It looks fast and no gills. Nice side pods and wings. Slick tyres. :clap:


#10341 BRK

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 13:22

Damn, I've been looking all over for the missing plane in my collection, so that's where it ended up.


I see what they've done with the M-IKEL registration there. :smoking:




#10342 sharo

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 16:54

It looks fast and no gills. Nice side pods and wings. Slick tyres. :clap:

And aerodynamically efficient too :)

#10343 arknor

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 16:58

costs about 1/3 the budget the merc team has to :rotfl:

#10344 F1Champion

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 18:30

Can someone clarify for me, what position was Michael before he stopped as he was ahead of Alonso or was he a lap behind?

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 18:32

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Rosberg has always wanted a bigger and faster one. :lol:



#10346 ali.unal

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 18:42

Can someone clarify for me, what position was Michael before he stopped as he was ahead of Alonso or was he a lap behind?

He was way behind. Almost being lapped.

Edited by ali.unal, 30 May 2011 - 18:43.


#10347 salamin

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 18:42

Can someone clarify for me, what position was Michael before he stopped as he was ahead of Alonso or was he a lap behind?


P13ish i think and alonso was just about to give him a lap

#10348 BRG

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 19:39

Michael Schumacher's new plane.

More tasteful livery. Has he started to develop good taste at last? And when did he move to the Isle of Man (the aircraft is registered there)? perhaps he is following in Nigel Mansell's footsteps?

Edited by BRG, 30 May 2011 - 19:39.


#10349 spacekid

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 22:16

More tasteful livery. Has he started to develop good taste at last? And when did he move to the Isle of Man (the aircraft is registered there)? perhaps he is following in Nigel Mansell's footsteps?


I very much doubt that. If there was a way to put a tight pair of jeans and a coyboy hat on that plane I'm sure Michael would  ;)

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 23:09

And when did he move to the Isle of Man (the aircraft is registered there)? perhaps he is following in Nigel Mansell's footsteps?

Dodgy tax wheeze. It's likely to be - ahem - 'chartered' when MS isn't using it. Or maybe that's just how it is if you want your name on your plane.