Well said, I agree with you on most of the points but not on your conclusion of some fans lacking "common sense". I dont buy that. Infact I think most if not all members on this board are intelligent and have a good grasp of all things F1, especially those that have joined 10 or 12 years back. So then why the irrational and hateful posts ?
I was never a Schumacher fan, always rooted for the likes of Keke and Hakkinen while they raced, but you'd have to be absolutely blind not to appreciate the sheer amount of talent Schumacher had, which was so easy to see in the 90s and early 00's. There is no doubt at all that he is among the most gifted men to have ever sat in an F1 cockpit. And no, I'm not a "new fan" just because I joined the Autosport internet BB in 2010, I've been following this sport since a long, long time.
I believe the reason for the unusually high amount of vitriol against MS by some old posters on this board is not lack of common sense : It cannot be. It perhaps is because these guys were so heavily invested in rooting for their favorite drivers/teams in the 90s, that seeing Schumacher do what he did in those years really riled them up. Perhaps seeing their idols losing to Schumacher and then facing ridicule on this board and others, may have conditioned them to behave this way. This is the one chance they'll ever get to reclaim "lost pride" on the BB, so its no surprise that they type stuff like "He was always overrated, he was never any good" etc, because everyone who has watched even a handful of races from the 90s knew that the kid was something special.
PS : IMO, the difference between a good driver and a great one is approximately 0.3 of a second. So no, Schumacher / Senna /Lauda / Giles wouldnt ever be able to "lap the field in a Tyrell / Minardi" but they'd make the difference between being 40 seconds down and being 1.5 laps down.
I said common sense as I like to think a lack of common sense is the lesser of the two evils and like to give them the benefit of the doubt. (the other being blind hate and prejudice blinding people)
No he is not as fast as he was in 99. I don't think anyone believes that at 42 he would be as good as he was at 30.
But at 42 today, he is still a fast and good driver. So how much speed has he really lost in 12 years. .1 of a second? .2? .3 even? That would make him at his prime about as fast as Rosberg is now. So how much has the greatest driver in history really lost with age? If he was really manhandling slower cars back then into positions that they didn't belong in, he must have had one heck of a speed advantage over Hill and Villenuve etc to beat them in their faster cars. So how much speed has he really lost to now be a tenth or two slower than Rosberg?
If you do understand he can't be as quick as he used to be why do you continue to compare his performances today with those in the Benetton or the Ferrari, in his prime? Of course he did a fantastic job in below par machinery, of course his teammates weren't anywhere near as good, what does any of that have to do with his performances as a 42-year old?
Difficult to quantify how much speed he would have lost, as I said, in my personal opinion he can still be as quick but not consistently, that's where he would lose a lot of time. Bring back any of the others that raced with him at 42
and they would be over a second
off the pace. When Hakkinen tested for McLaren, he was what 3 seconds off the pace? I believe it is a measure of Schumacher's own ability and talent that he is still
able to keep up with drivers much younger than him.'
Edit: come to think of it, people were hailing Hakkinen's performance as excellent for someone that had been away for five years (I thought the same), that being 3 seconds slower than Badoer was still good enough for the first test. At no point during his return has Schumacher been a second slower than anyone, much less 3 seconds. The double standards are not just shocking but also hilarious!
Edited by BRK, 29 June 2011 - 06:28.