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#11751 Spa95

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 12:24

Michael certainly losing out there...

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#11752 ivand911

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 12:28

Stupid strategy. Fire the strategy guy already.

#11753 Wilgot

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 12:30

Well he couldn't pit the same lap as Rosberg so he would have had to went in two laps earlier.

#11754 Spa95

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 12:30

Ona positive, Michael is already faster than Rosberg in the race - who could have guessed. :rotfl:

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 12:31

Well he couldn't pit the same lap as Rosberg so he would have had to went in two laps earlier.

He could pit with DIR with no problem. Race destroyed by strategy, not my favourite thing. :mad:

Edited by ivand911, 31 July 2011 - 12:33.


#11756 MightyMoose

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 12:33

MS has been quicker than NR for about the last 10 laps both on Inters & now Slicks.....shame he lost the position because the team pitted both drivers a lap late.

Edit : Most of the time gained is in the middle sector at least 0.5 secs there, MS into the 29s...

Edited by MightyMoose, 31 July 2011 - 12:36.


#11757 ivand911

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 12:42

Massa is not helping to Michael speed, but he is still faster than two guys ahead.

Box,box now. They hear me!!!

Edited by ivand911, 31 July 2011 - 12:46.


#11758 Wade

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 12:49

Race over for Schumi. Damn!

#11759 MightyMoose

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 12:49

Bollocks.

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#11760 ivand911

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 12:49

What happen, car was moving?

#11761 Spa95

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 12:49

What was that?

#11762 cutchemist42

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 12:51

I don't get it, the car pulled away after the spin?

#11763 Spa95

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 12:52

He still got trought the first timing beam but the 'spin' with Massa was way before that. :confused:

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 12:52

Loose wheel nut maybe? Would explain the spin. Hopeless coverage.

Edited by ClubmanGT, 31 July 2011 - 12:52.


#11765 Sof1

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 12:53

Really stupid, frustrating and demoralizing.

#11766 Massa_f1

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 12:57

Another wasted weekend for Schumacher. Don't know why i ever hope for something different really

#11767 MightyMoose

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 12:58

Well I think I can predict the trolls on the scorecard thread....

MS was behind NR all race, he had another spin, and was going backwards from 5th all race.....zzzzz

In reality, MS was faster than NR every lap bar 1 from about lap 8 and he had a slide to avoid a crash as Massa did his usual turn in regardless move.

Merc really are toss, hugely disappointing again.

#11768 Tarzaan

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 13:02

Nico was unfair in the first lap...

#11769 ivand911

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 13:12

Gearbox problem(with 5th or 6th gear). Started with lower tyre pressure, this is why sliding.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 13:30

Good pace - check
Spin - check
Techincal problem - that's new

#11771 MightyMoose

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 13:32

Good pace - check
Spin - check
Techincal problem - that's new


If we ignore Monaco.....

#11772 Massa_f1

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 13:44

I fail to see how Schumacher can be enjoying his racing. There is very few positives to take from any GP weekend.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 13:51

Where is KEKE last night

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 13:57

Rosberg crushed Schumacher in every aspect of the weekend.

Schumacher slow in Q, slow in race, spin, broke the car. complete failure

Schumacher should retire he is embarrassing himself the team and F1 in general.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 13:58

Schumacher slow in Q, slow in race, spin, broke the car. complete failure


How about no.

No impact on race.



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Posted 31 July 2011 - 14:01

Rosberg crushed Schumacher in every aspect of the weekend.

Schumacher slow in Q, slow in race, spin, broke the car. complete failure

Schumacher should retire he is embarrassing himself the team and F1 in general.


You know Slate Gray isn't as big a twat as his posts on this thread try to make out. Shame he can't resist trolling blatant falsehoods here.

MS wasn't slow in the race, read my post a few lines above... he was quicker many laps and how can the mechanical be his fault?

Foolish boy.

#11777 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 14:02

Rosberg crushed Schumacher in every aspect of the weekend.

Schumacher slow in Q, slow in race, spin, broke the car. complete failure

Schumacher should retire he is embarrassing himself the team and F1 in general.


Blah blah blah

why do your troll posts never get deleted?

#11778 ivand911

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 14:26

Next stop-SPA.

#11779 weston

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 14:30

Rosberg crushed Schumacher in every aspect of the weekend.

Schumacher slow in Q, slow in race, spin, broke the car. complete failure

Schumacher should retire he is embarrassing himself the team and F1 in general.


Even Verstappen could have repaired the gear box in the first outlap.

Edited by weston, 31 July 2011 - 14:31.


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Posted 31 July 2011 - 14:40

atleast we can leave this weekend seeing schumachers pace for what the 3rd race in a row?
hopefully no more problems at SPA and we can see what result schumchers pace can give with no mistakes , no penalties and no technical difficulties
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Posted 31 July 2011 - 14:48

The DNF was very annoying, could have been a good race in the later stages considering the pace he showed early on. Real shame.

The car was a horrible today, though. Even the Toro Rossos and Saubers were on Rosberg's pace towards the end.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 14:57

Poor Michael seems to be getting paid back for all those years of bullet-proof reliability at the Scuderia.


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Posted 31 July 2011 - 15:19

Is there video of the Schumacher incident?

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 15:22

Is there video of the Schumacher incident?


Edited by vovelo, 31 July 2011 - 15:22.


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Posted 31 July 2011 - 15:28

Ahh, this is just ridiculous...The team disappoints over and over again...Horrible strategy, pace, everything...

Can't believe it, seems Schumacher doesn't want to take a break, in interview he said that it's a shame that teams' factories have to be closed for 2 weeks and he wants to get working on a new update package for SPA. What a fighter.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 15:47

After today schumi canĀ“t win the wdc 2011 - vettel out of reach now. :cry: ;)

Edited by F. Scaramanga, 31 July 2011 - 15:51.


#11787 zelpre

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 15:57

MSC:

"We had a gearbox failure, we obviously need to understand details of the failure," he told BBC Sport. "After spinning and continuing, shifting up through the higher gears, we lost a gear.

"I obviously wanted to keep my position against Felipe and pushed hard, but in order to avoid contact I had to put the car into a spin.

"The contact would have been okay, I would have just lost a couple of seconds."



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Posted 31 July 2011 - 15:59

Ahh, this is just ridiculous...The team disappoints over and over again...Horrible strategy, pace, everything...

Can't believe it, seems Schumacher doesn't want to take a break, in interview he said that it's a shame that teams' factories have to be closed for 2 weeks and he wants to get working on a new update package for SPA. What a fighter.

he gave a factory tour on the bbc but i missed it ill have to rewatch it on iplayer in a bit

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 16:01

Ahh, this is just ridiculous...The team disappoints over and over again...Horrible strategy, pace, everything...

Can't believe it, seems Schumacher doesn't want to take a break, in interview he said that it's a shame that teams' factories have to be closed for 2 weeks and he wants to get working on a new update package for SPA. What a fighter.

That's where he gets his joys! He loves the challenge. Was great seeing him touring the MGP factory, shaking hands with employees along the way.

Let's hope they get it right next year.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 16:13

he gave a factory tour on the bbc but i missed it ill have to rewatch it on iplayer in a bit


Here is the video of Schumi giving the factory tour.


Let's hope they get it right next year.


And what if they don't get it right next year? With this team I highly doubt that they will get it right! Seeing Schumi in the midfield for another year is going to be really tough. This is truly a dream turned into a nightmare!

Edited by merschu, 31 July 2011 - 16:14.


#11791 zelpre

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 16:14

he gave a factory tour on the bbc but i missed it ill have to rewatch it on iplayer in a bit


here you have it ;)

Anyways, watching the replay of the start here: , bad quality but enough to see what happened and I'm really not satisfied with what Rosberg did there..Ok he defended his position, but Michael was still right behind him and then Rosberg cut the chicane(really unfair) to escape Michael who was fighting with ferraris, then Michael was passed by Alonso and that's how he lost contact with Rosberg.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 16:19

Ahh, this is just ridiculous...The team disappoints over and over again...Horrible strategy, pace, everything...

Can't believe it, seems Schumacher doesn't want to take a break, in interview he said that it's a shame that teams' factories have to be closed for 2 weeks and he wants to get working on a new update package for SPA. What a fighter.



It's the wrong time for a break for a teams that needs to keep working. Redbull deserve their break, their rest is about the tough get going when the going gets tough.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 18:18

It's the wrong time for a break for a teams that needs to keep working. Redbull deserve their break, their rest is about the tough get going when the going gets tough.


Lol, actually this time between the hungarian gp and belgium gp is supposse to be a break. At least everyone is saying about to take it, Nico too! The only exception I heard is Michael, and I respect that, that's why he's the king, a true champion.

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 18:44

So I'm having trouble truly seeing it from the side view but was Massa closing down on Michael?

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 18:58

Lol, actually this time between the hungarian gp and belgium gp is supposse to be a break. At least everyone is saying about to take it, Nico too! The only exception I heard is Michael, and I respect that, that's why he's the king, a true champion.



13 years ago, he was at Enzo's house, testing the ferrari right up until Spa, chasing the tenths, his drive showed that determination, and his rage at how his drive ended, showed the amount of emotion that dnf inflicted on him.

Now we have a forced break, no testing,. he can't do nothing until he arrives at Spa, it's just not the same in terms of preparation. He would badly want to test tyres and check set up solutions, that's the work he was used too, so this break is weird to him more then others. He wants to understand, and that gearbox issue before a forced holiday is not the type of thing any team would leave without looking into, but they got no choice, it's not ideal for that team and himself at this point. I think he's more worried about arriving at Spa with issues left dangeling from Hungary.


This all shows how incrediably important designing a good car is from the start with these rules, catch up seems very hard now, ferrari took ages this year and last year to work solutions. Schumacher and Ferrari were very good in working hard to find speed during the season, now with budget, time and testing restrictions, everything points to having things more right before the season starts, Michael's powers with testing/feedback and analysis for the team were gone even before he arrived at his first race in 2010.

Edited by SeanValen, 31 July 2011 - 19:04.


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Posted 31 July 2011 - 18:58

So I'm having trouble truly seeing it from the side view but was Massa closing down on Michael?

I think Massa take the corner tightly and Michael take the corner tightly too(he didn't have other choice or to hit him), but he carry more speed and his back side start to slide.

Michael will have 20th anniversary in Formula One at Spa. Hope for good result.

Edited by ivand911, 31 July 2011 - 19:04.


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Posted 31 July 2011 - 19:07

13 years ago, he was at Enzo's house, testing the ferrari right up until Spa, chasing the tenths, his drive showed that determination, and his rage at how his drive ended, showed the amount of emotion that dnf inflicted on him.

Now we have a forced break, no testing,. he can't do nothing until he arrives at Spa, it's just not the same in terms of preparation. He would badly want to test tyres and check set up solutions, that's the work he was used too, so this break is weird to him more then others. He wants to understand, and that gearbox issue before a forced holiday is not the type of thing any team would leave without looking into, but they got no choice, it's not ideal for that team and himself at this point. I think he's more worried about arriving at Spa with issues left dangeling from Hungary.


This all shows how incrediably important designing a good car is from the start with these rules, catch up seems very hard now, ferrari took ages this year and last year to work solutions. Schumacher and Ferrari were very good in working hard to find speed during the season, now with budget, time and testing restrictions, everything points to having things more right before the season starts, Michael's powers with testing/feedback and analysis for the team were gone even before he arrived at his first race in 2010.


:up: I totaly agree with you, but unfortunately time is changing =/

I think Massa take the corner tightly and Michael take the corner tightly too(he didn't have other choice or to hit him), but he carry more speed and his back side start to slide.


Actually Michael said that he didn't want to hit Massa so he span deliberately to avoid the crash.



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Posted 31 July 2011 - 19:14

Actually Michael said that he didn't want to hit Massa so he span deliberately to avoid the crash.

Yes, he didn't want to hit him ,so he spin.


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Posted 31 July 2011 - 20:21

was that a spin or some how a slide? it's a bit over the top to say it was a spin, he caught the car, probably lost 2 sec there and continued

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Posted 31 July 2011 - 20:33

I think I will try to give Michael a drink this Summer break. He has performed MORE than perfect for me so far! :smoking:



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