Could you stay out of this discussion please.
I am trying to discuss the reason why the driving style is not the same anymore. The guys here have been very helpfull on this. And then you come here and make my questions into something they are not to and tell me to give it a rest.
Please guys don't react to his post and lets foccus on the driving style of MS.
So we have EBD engine mapping, what else could it be? And how can it be fixed?
I think he generally has that speed at Brazi/ Monaco/Spa/Suzuka/Spain/Turkey last year especially, if you look at his qualifying despite that mistake at this year's turkey, these are tracks with fast corners, and he's outshoned rosberg at Monaco 2 years in a row, beaten him at Spain, 2 years in a row, was fast at Suzuka/Spa-with f duct issues last year spoiling his qualifying, let Rosberg through at Brazil last year despite being faster to help Nico's strategy, and Brazil does have a combination of medium/slow/fast corners.
I think Michael has done a great job at adapting whatever he needed to do, but one of the problems he has, is qualifying set up is linked to race set up, in a unproductive way for the way he sets up his car for the race, if qualifying was separate, he could tinker with the car for the race, but he can't now, and he makes a comprimise, fast in the race, Nico gets quali right more often, and falls back, while MS moves forward.
I don't know how much MS has lost in slow corners, that was the problem last year, he's improved it this year, but qualifying to the race set up is a hurdle I think only a better mercedes car will solve for him, he needs more set up options, it's the price he pays for being Schumacher, it's something he and the team need to sort out, they didn't have a game plan last year, and this year technically they've missed 6 months on rivals, had the car shown the speed they thought they had in winter testing, we would be be talking about something else.
I think Rosberg and Schumacher have helped each other out, Schumacher needs with the team to have a fast car in qualifying and the race, currently he can't do this often enough, and Nico is the other way around, fast in quali, and trying to hold on to it in the race, and more often falling back, Schumacher is taking more risks to compensenate.
Maybe there is something to his engine maping, which could further be improved, but I think the main issue is, is having a car that's capable of a decent saturday and sunday, with DRS being used more often in quali, I think it's actually just making things just unealistic for sunday, when they can only use it in one area.
I think qualifying has just changed one too many times, and this might not be currently MS's best times with qualifying rules with this current car, but that could change, a better car gives you more set up options to attack podium/win.
When Michael done things like 2 stoppers to other peoples 3 stoppers at Silverstone 2004, he immediately sacificed this qualifying for race pace, but now I think it's something he is almost forced to do given the limitations of the car. I personally think if Schumacher can have strong race pace, then surely a better car will get him up the grid, and DRS/Kiers will solve matters up front, Rosberg is not the same, what works this year for Rosberg, might not work next year, and Schumacher has left Nico off the hook despite being strong for the result, Schumacher's strategy will be great for racing against the big guns like Alonso/Hamilton/Vettel, but right now, 6th./7th place, a different ball game, I don't see other drivers on the grid making the current merc any podium potential.
Rosberg's qualifying pace reminds me of Montoya in 2002, great quali, then falls in the race, while Schumacher in 2002, didn't have the outright advantage in quali, but his race car was fantastic.
Without KERS and DRS maybe Schuey would be in bigger trouble, but if he's got race pace, and has these additions, and a newer car can help find his qualifying/to race set up better then it is now, and lets be clear, rosberg's balance is not great either, either one looks good on saturday/sunday, then other suffers on the opposite day.
Right now this Mercedes has followed a different design pathh, and unless we saw others in these same cars, it would be some sort of clear picture, but redbull/mac/ferrari/their exchaust route has pulled them through, and Merc is 6 months behind, looking for a leap, they need a winter where everything clicks, the structure is there now, this is basically the team MS was expecting when he started, but it's taken 2 years to get a structure, essentially he has been racing in a different type of exhaust formula, and next year things get reset again, and with each change, things can move towards a team/driver. This year is important to close solution gaps and make sure progression don't stop.
Edited by SeanValen, 07 August 2011 - 14:54.