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#12601 GerhardBerger

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 11:06

Jock Clear always had bad things to say about MS when he was working at Williams as JV's race engineer.

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#12602 Massa_f1

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 11:18

Jock Clear always had bad things to say about MS when he was working at Williams as JV's race engineer.


If i was Micheal i would not want him working on my car or anything to do with him really.

#12603 DutchCruijff

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 11:39

If i was Micheal i would not want him working on my car or anything to do with him really.

I'm certain Clear is professional enough not to allow bad blood, if it is still circulating, to deter him from his duties and he'll also want to make it as easy & comfortable for Bonnington as possible.

#12604 DutchCruijff

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 11:47

It's a shame that Slade decided to resign from his role because he possessed bundles of experience, working with Mika & Kimi, and the relationship between him and Schumi seemed to be good. Also despite the history between Jock & Schumacher, I am in fact quite happy that Clear is carrying on until the end of the season. His experience of working with exceptional drivers, Barrichello & Villeneuve, will come good when working with the meticulous nature of Michael.

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#12605 ivand911

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 11:51

Michael new helmet have real 21 carat gold on it.

#12606 baddog

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 11:51

Jock is a hugely experienced and talented race engineer though. It would look AMAZING on his CV if Michael scored success with him on the car.

#12607 EdwardCullen

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 11:59

Michael new helmet have real 21 carat gold on it.

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#12608 Diablobb81

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 12:02

Michael new helmet have real 21 carat gold on it.


Eat that Lewis. That's what i call bling bling. :rotfl:

#12609 merschu

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 12:11

Michael with his new race-engineer Peter Bonnington :)

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#12610 Buttoneer

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 12:31

I suppose Stepney proved that sometimes bitterness can overcome professionalism, but I tend to think better of these guys. Achieving Schumies first win since his comeback would be really special for all of them and actually we really don't know how well Clear and he get on these days at all.

#12611 Sakae

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 12:38

I'm certain Clear is professional enough not to allow bad blood, if it is still circulating, to deter him from his duties and he'll also want to make it as easy & comfortable for Bonnington as possible.

I am suprised. Very suprised. J. Clear should be by now working for some other outfit, like Virgin or whomever, but IMO he should not be anywhere close to Schumacher, or to his car.

Edited by Sakae, 26 August 2011 - 12:39.


#12612 Hacklerf

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 12:53

Yea i dont trust Clear, still that doesnt matter, what matters is Michael doesn't seem to have a problem with him, i hope

#12613 KavB

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 12:54

Jock said last year he is professional enough to have a working relationship with Schumacher. He may dislike Michael, but I doubt he'll act like a kid and be uncooperative as that'll just damage his reputation.

#12614 zelpre

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 13:05

Unfortunately the car is just a crap, they didn't improve like expected. Seems like they'll be fighting with Force Indias..That's just ahh..

#12615 Sakae

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 13:41

Jock said last year he is professional enough to have a working relationship with Schumacher. He may dislike Michael, but I doubt he'll act like a kid and be uncooperative as that'll just damage his reputation.


Perhaps not, but in this job one would expect that a person goes over and beyond what's expected. Is he? Perhaps he is, but I am a believer on chemistry and that aspect for people on the outside is not so clear, and I would not expect insiders to say "it's no good".

#12616 merschu

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 13:47

Video of how they made the 21-carat gold helmet for Michael Schumacher by Schuberth





#12617 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 14:07

Jock said last year he is professional enough to have a working relationship with Schumacher. He may dislike Michael, but I doubt he'll act like a kid and be uncooperative as that'll just damage his reputation.



Exactly. All eyes will be on him this weekend. If he can't be professional, he is finished at Mercedes, within F1 and his reputation will suffer massively.

That aside, I think they've buried the hatchet and are professional about things. Let's also be honest, there's more chance of Clear being booted out of the team than Schumacher and everyone knows this.



#12618 merschu

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 17:55

Peter Bonnington & Jock Clear

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#12619 ivand911

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 20:29

I hope for good race and Michael to be 8th in WDC after the race.

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#12620 zelpre

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 11:00

I'm just not impressed with the Mercedes' team. I mean they didn't come with any upgrade in SPA. They shouldn't have a break, they should work hard, they should put some effort for Michael, ti give him some sort of a present for his anniversary. I mean I know the factory had to be closed for two weeks but for sure that's not the only place where they can come together. In the interview after the Hungarian GP, Michael said that it's a shame that the factory has to be closed as he wanted to work on the car. But Brawn wants to rest for 2 weeks? I mean, if you live in a sport, if you're a professional, you know what to do, you need to work hard and denial to things you like, if you want to succeed. It's simple...I know there are limits, you need to have a break, you need to turn yourself off. But not 2 weeks in a row, that's not what you do in sports...If you're in sport seriously and professionally you have the schedule over the week and you probably take 1 day off in the week. And I'm sure they have 1 day off in a whole week. I know there are ups and downs in your career, every sport is a game of inches and so it is in life too and you need to fight for every inch. Sometimes the score tables aren't that important if you look at the other side, the most important is that you give everything you got and that you fight and so you can win it for yourself. But I'm not seeing Mercedes giving everything they got, I'm not seeing them to fight for every inch.

#12621 baddog

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:04

Okay you guys were right about Jock ;)

#12622 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:04

Jock Clear strikes?

#12623 Diablobb81

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:05

Great to have Jock back. :rotfl:

#12624 dav115

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:05

As soon as I saw Clear in that garage on Friday I KNEW qualy would go tits up for Michael, I just KNEW it. What an absolute joke.

#12625 Urawa

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:06

who have thought that, Jock?

#12626 spacekid

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:06

Dissapointing. Well, thats motor racing.

Lets see what Michael can do in the race tomorrow, if he can have a clean first couple of laps I'm hoping we can see him race towards the points. It should still be fun to watch.

Not the 20th anniversary we were hoping for though. Any chance this threads resident trolls can give it a rest on this one?

#12627 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:08

Dissapointing. Well, thats motor racing.

Lets see what Michael can do in the race tomorrow, if he can have a clean first couple of laps I'm hoping we can see him race towards the points. It should still be fun to watch.

Not the 20th anniversary we were hoping for though. Any chance this threads resident trolls can give it a rest on this one?


Not a chance, they're already celebrating.



#12628 FenderJaguar

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:09

I felt so sorry for him. I hope he can show something good tomorrow.

#12629 arknor

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:10

whats happened to msc? i was washing the dishes because q1 is usually so boring anyway

#12630 dav115

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:11

whats happened to msc? i was washing the dishes because q1 is usually so boring anyway

Lost a rear wheel going down the little straight section towards Rivage, went spearing off into the barrier.

#12631 ivand911

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:11

whats happened to msc? i was washing the dishes because q1 is usually so boring anyway

He lost left rear tyre.


#12632 Diablobb81

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:12

whats happened to msc? i was washing the dishes because q1 is usually so boring anyway


His wheel fell off.

How can you not fasten a wheel at the start of a quali session?

I will start my rain dance for tomorrow. If not it's going to be a long race.

Edited by Diablobb81, 27 August 2011 - 12:12.


#12633 Spa95

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:12

whats happened to msc? i was washing the dishes because q1 is usually so boring anyway

Don't you have a wife to do that for you? :p

Poor jokes aside, a rear wheel came off.

#12634 zelpre

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:13

@offcialMGP:

#F1 Michael hit the wall after sliding on a wet patch...


So Michael made a mistake?

#12635 BRK

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:13

Nice to see Michael's wheel Cleared the car.



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#12636 DutchCruijff

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:13

Wooooooooo! 24th! Yeah, come on Mercedes!

#12637 spacekid

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:13

whats happened to msc? i was washing the dishes because q1 is usually so boring anyway


Do you get the BBC commentary feed arknor?

As the crash was happening...

DC - Thats Michael, he's crashed
MB - No, I think he lost a rear wheel
DC - No, the rear wheel would have come off when he crashed
MB - No, I think the rear wheel came off thats why he crashed
DC - No, I think Michaels made a mistake...

Way to give Michael the benefit of the doubt DC. He was still faster than you on 3 wheels in 1998!

#12638 Massa_f1

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:14

The team is a joke and its time Schumacher woke up to the fact the team is going nowhere. There is clearly someone in that team who does not like Schumacher and i think we all know who it is.

#12639 Spa95

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:14

@offcialMGP:


So Michael made a mistake?

They already deleted that tweet.

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#12640 spacekid

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:14

@offcialMGP:


So Michael made a mistake?


Yes, he climbed into a Mercedes.

#12641 DutchCruijff

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:14

@offcialMGP:


So Michael made a mistake?

Doubt it, no damage on the car prior to the wheel freeing itself and Michael was baffled too.

#12642 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:15

20 years in F1 and his worst start ever. Well done BAR/Honda/Mickey Mouse.

#12643 BRK

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:15

Mark my words..

Michael will either have:-

1: DRS Failure
2: KERS Failure
3: Mysterious lack of pace

or a combination of all three, during qually and the race.

Jock Clear - Saboteur!


You've just gained an enormous amount of respect from me for making that call and for posting that right at the top of the page. :up:

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:16

@offcialMGP:


So Michael made a mistake?


Yep, he lost all his edge.

Remember the old days in spa when he could actually drive on 3 wheels. Now he lost a wheel and can't even keep the car on track :rotfl:

Edited by Diablobb81, 27 August 2011 - 12:17.


#12645 Richardc

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:16

Kill me now... FML

#12646 Augurk

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:17

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#12647 DS27

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:18

Yes, he climbed into a Mercedes.



:lol: so true

#12648 EdwardCullen

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:18

WTF! i can understand wheels not attached during an intense race pit stop.
But this is something else! i hope Michael speaks up!

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:19

whats happened to msc? i was washing the dishes because q1 is usually so boring anyway


i was doing the same thing but you can never rest assured with mercedes can you? :down:
too lame to be true.. :(


#12650 ivand911

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:21

Nothing changed since 20 years. This time it happen in Qualification. Hope he will finish the race this time.