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#12651 Diablobb81

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:12

whats happened to msc? i was washing the dishes because q1 is usually so boring anyway


His wheel fell off.

How can you not fasten a wheel at the start of a quali session?

I will start my rain dance for tomorrow. If not it's going to be a long race.

Edited by Diablobb81, 27 August 2011 - 12:12.


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#12652 Spa95

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:12

whats happened to msc? i was washing the dishes because q1 is usually so boring anyway

Don't you have a wife to do that for you? :p

Poor jokes aside, a rear wheel came off.

#12653 zelpre

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:13

@offcialMGP:

#F1 Michael hit the wall after sliding on a wet patch...


So Michael made a mistake?

#12654 BRK

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:13

Nice to see Michael's wheel Cleared the car.



Edited by BRK, 27 August 2011 - 12:13.


#12655 DutchCruijff

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:13

Wooooooooo! 24th! Yeah, come on Mercedes!

#12656 spacekid

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:13

whats happened to msc? i was washing the dishes because q1 is usually so boring anyway


Do you get the BBC commentary feed arknor?

As the crash was happening...

DC - Thats Michael, he's crashed
MB - No, I think he lost a rear wheel
DC - No, the rear wheel would have come off when he crashed
MB - No, I think the rear wheel came off thats why he crashed
DC - No, I think Michaels made a mistake...

Way to give Michael the benefit of the doubt DC. He was still faster than you on 3 wheels in 1998!

#12657 Massa_f1

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:14

The team is a joke and its time Schumacher woke up to the fact the team is going nowhere. There is clearly someone in that team who does not like Schumacher and i think we all know who it is.

#12658 Spa95

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:14

@offcialMGP:


So Michael made a mistake?

They already deleted that tweet.

#12659 spacekid

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:14

@offcialMGP:


So Michael made a mistake?


Yes, he climbed into a Mercedes.

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#12660 DutchCruijff

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:14

@offcialMGP:


So Michael made a mistake?

Doubt it, no damage on the car prior to the wheel freeing itself and Michael was baffled too.

#12661 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:15

20 years in F1 and his worst start ever. Well done BAR/Honda/Mickey Mouse.

#12662 BRK

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:15

Mark my words..

Michael will either have:-

1: DRS Failure
2: KERS Failure
3: Mysterious lack of pace

or a combination of all three, during qually and the race.

Jock Clear - Saboteur!


You've just gained an enormous amount of respect from me for making that call and for posting that right at the top of the page. :up:

#12663 Diablobb81

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:16

@offcialMGP:


So Michael made a mistake?


Yep, he lost all his edge.

Remember the old days in spa when he could actually drive on 3 wheels. Now he lost a wheel and can't even keep the car on track :rotfl:

Edited by Diablobb81, 27 August 2011 - 12:17.


#12664 Richardc

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:16

Kill me now... FML

#12665 Augurk

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:17

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#12666 DS27

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:18

Yes, he climbed into a Mercedes.



:lol: so true

#12667 EdwardCullen

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:18

WTF! i can understand wheels not attached during an intense race pit stop.
But this is something else! i hope Michael speaks up!

#12668 Lelouch

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:19

whats happened to msc? i was washing the dishes because q1 is usually so boring anyway


i was doing the same thing but you can never rest assured with mercedes can you? :down:
too lame to be true.. :(


#12669 ivand911

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:21

Nothing changed since 20 years. This time it happen in Qualification. Hope he will finish the race this time.

#12670 zelpre

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:21

This team is a joke really. So they're now blaming Michael?? Can't believe it...And I still don't understand why this Jock Clear has to be his engineer... Great 20th anniversary, well done Mercedes

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:23

This team is a joke really. So they're now blaming Michael??

They didn't. Just an overeager tweet right as it happened.

Edited by Spa95, 27 August 2011 - 12:23.


#12672 DutchCruijff

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:23

Wtf is this Jock Clear nonsense? The wheel issue is due to the retards at Merc not Clear.

#12673 arknor

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:24

They didn't. Just an overeager tweet right as it happened.

bet the tweet was jock

#12674 Augurk

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:25

Wtf is this Jock Clear nonsense? The wheel issue is due to the retards at Merc not Clear.

Don't contradict yourself :drunk:

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:26

Nothing changed since 20 years. This time it happen in Qualification. Hope he will finish the race this time.


Will he be allowed to race tomorrow?

#12676 Massa_f1

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:26

They didn't. Just an overeager tweet right as it happened.



should of waited to see it was there mistake and not Micheals.

#12677 Augurk

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:27

Will he be allowed to race tomorrow?

Of course. The visit to the stewards should be no more than a formality.

#12678 EdwardCullen

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:29

i guess he doesnt have parc ferma then?
he could setup his car which ever way he wants?!
So if its raining he will have adavatage.
plz correct me if i am wrong!

#12679 spacekid

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:31

i guess he doesnt have parc ferma then?
he could setup his car which ever way he wants?!
So if its raining he will have adavatage.
plz correct me if i am wrong!


I think he does have parc ferme. Technically Michael took part in quali, he just didn't make it through to quali 2. The team can repair the car but the setup is locked in as far as I'm aware.

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#12680 DutchCruijff

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:32

Don't contradict yourself :drunk:

The retards at Merc being the pit crew or whoever is head of quality control. It's quite clear that a performance engineer doesn't have anything to do with the fitting of the tyres.

Wow, can't believe I had to spell that out to you, maybe a trip back to Primary School will help you develop some common sense.

#12681 Diablobb81

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:34

The retards at Merc being the pit crew or whoever is head of quality control. It's quite clear that a performance engineer doesn't have anything to do with the fitting of the tyres.

Wow, can't believe I had to spell that out to you, maybe a trip back to Primary School will help you develop some common sense.


Depends on whose mistake it was. If it was material then he has no responsibility. If it was human error then he is responsible, because he is also responsible for the men working on the car.

Edited by Diablobb81, 27 August 2011 - 12:35.


#12682 zelpre

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:39

Michael just did an interview for german tv. Anyone knows what he said?

#12683 DutchCruijff

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:42

Depends on whose mistake it was. If it was material then he has no responsibility. If it was human error then he is responsible, because he is also responsible for the men working on the car.

That's not the role of a performance engineer but let's say for argument's sake that it is, is he really expected to ask every one of the pit crew whether they've fixed wheel on properly or check every single wheel nut?

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:47

might be better to start from the pit and set up the car 100% for the race and do no compromise

#12685 spacekid

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:56

C'mon guys, this is silly. Jock Clear did not sabotage Michaels car.

That said, this is not the first time the Mercedes cars have lost a wheel. I'm certain I remember it happening before to Nico as well, and did Michael have a loose wheel that forced him to retire. There is a problem there the team need to look at. Not impressed with Mercedes at all.

#12686 Diablobb81

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 12:57

That's not the role of a performance engineer but let's say for argument's sake that it is, is he really expected to ask every one of the pit crew whether they've fixed wheel on properly or check every single wheel nut?


Isn't he assistant race engineer for Michael from now on?

And yes, he is responsible for the men under him.

#12687 Tarzaan

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 13:01

Brilliant :(

But there is a huge spece to improve tomorrow ;-)

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 13:12

It's going to be an interesting celebration tomorrow; we can expect supreme stuff from Schumacher. :-)

#12689 EdwardCullen

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 13:18

C'mon guys, this is silly. Jock Clear did not sabotage Michaels car.

That said, this is not the first time the Mercedes cars have lost a wheel. I'm certain I remember it happening before to Nico as well, and did Michael have a loose wheel that forced him to retire. There is a problem there the team need to look at. Not impressed with Mercedes at all.

What happened to Nico in Suzuka is totally expected in RACING condition !
it should not happen when u go out for the first time in Quly!

#12690 DutchCruijff

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 13:19

Isn't he assistant race engineer for Michael from now on?

And yes, he is responsible for the men under him.

He is Schumacher's performance engineer and get a grip.

#12691 dav115

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 13:21

Was Michael interviewed by RTL? Anyone able to translate what he said?

#12692 Diablobb81

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 13:23

He is Schumacher's performance engineer and get a grip.


Yes, you are right.

#12693 Urawa

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 13:23

like Norbert would say now "the team is still growing and learning (the basics :cat:)"

Edited by Urawa, 27 August 2011 - 13:24.


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Posted 27 August 2011 - 13:24

Not a chance, they're already celebrating.

No, but 'we're' absolutely gobsmacked that people here actually believe Clear sabotaged Shumi's car.

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 13:24

I said yesterday if I go back a couple of pages that Michael would have some problem qually and/or race.

I told you so.

Merc need to sack Jock before he injures Michael.



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Posted 27 August 2011 - 13:26

No, but 'we're' absolutely gobsmacked that people here actually believe Clear sabotaged Shumi's car.

Noone does, its just a 'funny' coincidence that was bound to be remarked upon. I assume, like me, that everyone is just kidding

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 13:27

Noone does, its just a 'funny' coincidence that was bound to be remarked upon. I assume, like me, that everyone is just kidding


It's clear.

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 13:28

Poor MS, doesn't deserve this on a special race weekend. And worst news of all, it's expected to be dry tomorrow. Nico is having all the luck at the moment, only MS suffering poor reliability.

#12699 DutchCruijff

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 13:28

Noone does, its just a 'funny' coincidence that was bound to be remarked upon. I assume, like me, that everyone is just kidding

As evidenced by Diablo, clearly not.

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 13:31

More luck to shumi tomorrow. :up: