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#12751 VresiBerba

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 09:40

Hello, just popped into this thread to say congrats to Michael for 20 years in F1. No matter how the race, the season or his career ends up, he's permanently got my respect. 20 years... wow.

How many other drivers just boast such long careers? (Time rather than number of races)

Well, Rubens has actually been in F1 longer if we take into account that Shumi was out for three years.

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#12752 SeanValen

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 09:56

There are so many parts of the car that got tested during the testing era, and now that practice sessions/gp weekends are pretty much apart of the test, sooner or later, your going to get a collection of issues for a team/. Bizzare crash especially with the wheel coming off, it just shouldn't happen.

#12753 ivand911

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 10:58

Anyone watching MS interview on RTL? What he said about why he decided to leave Benetton?

#12754 Spa95

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 11:14

Anyone watching MS interview on RTL? What he said about why he decided to leave Benetton?

He said he was fed up with having to pay for certain "actions" (whatever that means) at Benetton.

#12755 DutchCruijff

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 11:30

He said he was fed up with having to pay for certain "actions" (whatever that means) at Benetton.

The illegal fuel valve & traction control.

#12756 TURU

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 11:42

I hope for a great race for Michael and a bit of luck. He deserves it, especially today.

#12757 george1981

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 11:48

He said he was fed up with having to pay for certain "actions" (whatever that means) at Benetton.


I believe he has said that with Benetton their would always be allegations of cheating, with Traction Control, faster refueling due to lack of filters etc. so he needed a fresh start with a team that didn't have a reputation for cheating.



#12758 spacekid

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 11:59

Right then, lets put all this sily talk of sabotage (joking or not) aside for a moment. I think there is a conversation to be had about Mercedes lack of competence, maybe I'll visit the Mercedes thread for that...

Michael is starting last but we a consistnently told that the Merc has a great DRS system and Schu has a lot of slower cars to clear. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a very entertaining race from him this afternoon, just hope he doesn't snag his front wing getting past anyone. If he can get up to 12th or so and then there's a bit of rain maybe, just maybe, some magic could happen.

Or he'll crash out within the first 3 laps. Lets see.

#12759 ivand911

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:01

Michael with hards.

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#12760 arknor

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:13

why has he pitted after only 4 full laps?

#12761 spacekid

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:14

Has Michael had an off or did he pick up a puncture on the debris?

Damn shame either way, he was flying. Another wrecked race.

#12762 arknor

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:15

Has Michael had an off or did he pick up a puncture on the debris?

Damn shame either way, he was flying. Another wrecked race.

seems wierd his times looked fine , mnaybe they just wanted to get hards out the way? would seem retarded to me though ?

Edited by arknor, 28 August 2011 - 12:15.


#12763 spacekid

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:17

seems wierd his times looked fine , mnaybe they just wanted to get hards out the way? would seem retarded to me though ?


Yeah he was fast and the softs are falling apart, his strategy was good. Very frustrating, he should be in the points already but for that.

#12764 Sof1

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:23

Very frustrating this early pit stop.

#12765 arknor

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:24

schumachers softs are dieing already and look at rosbergs times hes in the 1:58's after only 10 laps why the hell did they make mcihael pit vfrom hards after 5 laps .........

jock clear giving advice ? :rotfl: its feeling like canada last year when michael had twice as many pitstops as everyone else.....

Edited by arknor, 28 August 2011 - 12:25.


#12766 spacekid

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:28

Hmmm.

Actually I'm not so sure now. Button is still on the hards and he is slow - Schumi is back ahead of him. If the hards area couple of seconds a lap slower than the softs it might have been worth throwing away a pit stop.

Safety car! Interesting!!! There is potential here to make up some great time, or throw away all the gains. Depends on how this second set is bearing up, I can't decide what the best option would be.

Edited by spacekid, 28 August 2011 - 12:30.


#12767 arknor

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:29

Hmmm.

Actually I'm not so sure now. Button is still on the hards and he is slow - Schumi is back ahead of him. If the hards area couple of seconds a lap slower than the softs it might have been worth throwing away a pit stop.

Safety car! Interesting!!!

safety car would have been intresting if schumacher hadnt pitted for softs a few laps ago :S , schumachers only ahead of button because button lost a front wing in his first stint

Edited by arknor, 28 August 2011 - 12:30.


#12768 ivand911

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:30

What is happening with this tyres????

#12769 arknor

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:31

What is happening with this tyres????

russian roulette hes probably back on hards now :rotfl: atleast he was one of the first cars back into the pitlane under the safety car

#12770 spacekid

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:31

safety car would have been intresting if schumacher hadnt pitted for softs a few laps ago :S , schumachers only ahead of button because button lost a front wing in his first stint


Oh ok didn't realise that about Jenson! Cheers mate.

Well Schumi is up to 10th for the restart and the pack will be tight. If he can be fast on the restart then when the guys in front do their second stop it could bring him into the race. Is 6th a reasonable expectation?

Edited by spacekid, 28 August 2011 - 12:33.


#12771 ivand911

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:33

Michael have a lot new softs , but this is.......??

#12772 arknor

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:34

Oh ok didn't realise that about Jenson! Cheers mate.

Well Schumi is up to 10th for the restart and the pack will be tight. If he can be fast on the restart then when the guys in front do their second stop it could bring him into the race. Is 6th a reasonable expectation?

he shuld be 9th or 10th now but fresher tyres than most people by a few laps , it puts him in nicos pitwindow though so we know what will happen if they end up anywhere near close

#12773 DutchCruijff

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:38

Passed Perez & Petrov with ease *sigh of relief*

#12774 Spa95

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:44

With a bit of luck we might get to see all those overtakes in the f1.com highlights video.... :cat:

#12775 ivand911

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:46

Bad middle sector? :rolleyes:

#12776 spacekid

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:48

Damn. Down to 8th and not great pace.

#12777 Spa95

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:49

The cars infront still have to go on the harder tyre, yes?

Edited by Spa95, 28 August 2011 - 12:49.


#12778 arknor

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:50

Bad middle sector? :rolleyes:

his middle sector has been bad all race rosbergs isnt great either so they must be sacrifcing downforce for straightline again like they do pretty much every race

#12779 DutchCruijff

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:50

Damn. Down to 8th and not great pace.

He wasn't going to keep Button behind but he can take comfort in that the others ahead (Rosberg, Massa & Sutil IIRC) pitted 3-5 laps earlier plus he seems to be faster than Sutil.

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#12780 ivand911

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:51

his middle sector has been bad all race rosbergs isnt great either so they must be sacrifcing downforce for straightline again like they do pretty much every race

Nico is much better there, 51,4 s when MS 52sec.

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#12781 DutchCruijff

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:51

Nico's holding Massa back, all playing into Schumi's hands.

#12782 spacekid

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:51

I'm just waiting for these cars in front to pit. Some of them have to soon... surely...

Edit - spots of rain on the camera!?!

Edited by spacekid, 28 August 2011 - 12:53.


#12783 arknor

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:52

Nick is much better there, 51,4 s when MS 52sec.

yea but compared to everyone around him hes alot slower.
michael seems a bit faster in the first and often the last sector which suggests hes running less downforce than rosberg.

im thinking mercedes decided to give ms more straightline speed so it would help him get up the grid quicker

Edited by arknor, 28 August 2011 - 12:55.


#12784 Diablobb81

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:54

He's losing pace.

#12785 spacekid

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:56

yea but compared to everyone around him hes alot slower.
michael seems a bit faster in the first and often the last sector which suggests hes running less downforce than rosberg.

im thinking mercedes decided to give ms more straightline speed so it would help him get up the grid quicker


I'm hoping he is also conserving his tyres a bit. Not sure if he can finish the race with only one more stop.

#12786 ivand911

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 12:59

Other will use hards now. I hope will help him.

#12787 arknor

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 13:07

Other will use hards now. I hope will help him.

schumachers probably on hards now knowing merc

#12788 Spa95

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 13:12

Curious to see what will happen now. :)

#12789 Diablobb81

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 13:12

Softs. Come on!!!!

#12790 spacekid

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 13:12

schumachers probably on hards now knowing merc


Nope, softs!!

He's catching Nico now who is on hards. This will be interesting. Will they race?

#12791 arknor

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 13:13

Nope, softs!!

He's catching Nico now who is on hards. This will be interesting. Will they race?

probably not... if they do rosberg is gonna be well dodgy as usual anyway

im just waiting for the you need to save fuel message .....

Edited by arknor, 28 August 2011 - 13:14.


#12792 dav115

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 13:15

Even if MSC passes Rosberg, won't his softs be shot by the end of the race allowing Rosberg to repass?

#12793 spacekid

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 13:16

At this rate Michael will be in the DRS zone in about 3-4 laps. I think Mercedes will tell Nico not to give him a hard time.

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 13:17

Even if MSC passes Rosberg, won't his softs be shot by the end of the race allowing Rosberg to repass?


I'm worried about that too. But the track is more rubbered in that at the start of the race, that should helpthe tyres last.

I understand why the director isn't focusing on the battle, but I'd like to see more of it!

#12795 ivand911

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 13:22

What is Michael doing????

#12796 Spa95

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 13:22

Poor second sector from Michael now. Looks like the option tyre had it.

#12797 spacekid

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 13:22

What is Michael doing????


Falling back now. I think he's taken all the life out of the softs.

Still, 24th to 6th ain't too shabby.

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 13:23

What is Michael doing????

probably accepting a 5th asnd 6th rather than bothering pushing for 5th....

oh look nico has to save fuel and michael backs off......

Edited by arknor, 28 August 2011 - 13:24.


#12799 ivand911

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 13:31

19 plus, good one.


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Posted 28 August 2011 - 13:32

Amazing result, 24th to 5th!!! Go Schumi!!