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#12951 Augurk

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 19:50

nice fashion :lol:

Not bad at all by his standards!

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#12952 spacekid

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 19:54

Not bad at all by his standards!


I agree, almost dissapointing!!

I'd like to see some more tassles and maybe some rhinestones on that outfit.

#12953 EdwardCullen

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 19:59

I agree, almost dissapointing!!

I'd like to see some more tassles and maybe some rhinestones on that outfit.

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#12954 puxanando

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 20:05

When you say Germans what you mean, Alonso's German fans?


:rolleyes: Don't believe that Spiegel-journalists are Alonso fans! But if you're kind with me I'll pass you all the information about statements from german media & newspaper about Mischa...... & when you're really hard & resistant also the usercomments......

Edited by puxanando, 09 September 2011 - 20:06.


#12955 salamin

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 21:22

omg now I understand.....


win :rotfl:

#12956 fieraku

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 22:51

Also Schumi is inside the list of Disastrous sporting comebacks and the germans think he pays with a serious loss of image.

What you missed there is that the athletes before him on that list participated in tennis,boxing,golf,athletics,and soccer which are sports that DON'T require equipment performance,or a race winning car in Schu's case but are solely down to the athlete's own performance.
Disastrous? Not even close,whoever wrote that article clearly has no clue that in F1 wins and titles and great performances are car related and no amount of talent can overcome a sh** car.

Edited by fieraku, 09 September 2011 - 22:53.


#12957 Atomicus

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 23:29

I don't think his comeback has been a disaster either. But hearing for years all sort of stuff of the likes of "he could have won in a Minardi" coming from his fans, one has to understand why he is receiving a meaningful amount of criticism since he has not set the world on fire so far since his comeback. Of course the performances are car related, but he was comfortably beat by Rosberg last year (ok, let's forgive him as it was his first season after some sabbatical years) und matched currently (although Rosberg is ahead in the standings for now). I don't know, maybe a win is asking too much given the circumstances, ok, but at least I expected from the guy that builds up teams and regarded by many of his fans as the best ever to take out from the car a bit more than his teammate (that according to AS forumers is the ultimate way of comparing drivers).

I just hope Schumacher is the same guy as ever as that would mean Rosberg is a really really good driver, so seriously, I'm the last guy interested in putting Schumacher down :p

Edited by Atomicus, 09 September 2011 - 23:31.


#12958 arknor

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 00:26

I don't think his comeback has been a disaster either. But hearing for years all sort of stuff of the likes of "he could have won in a Minardi" coming from his fans, one has to understand why he is receiving a meaningful amount of criticism since he has not set the world on fire so far since his comeback. Of course the performances are car related, but he was comfortably beat by Rosberg last year (ok, let's forgive him as it was his first season after some sabbatical years) und matched currently (although Rosberg is ahead in the standings for now). I don't know, maybe a win is asking too much given the circumstances, ok, but at least I expected from the guy that builds up teams and regarded by many of his fans as the best ever to take out from the car a bit more than his teammate (that according to AS forumers is the ultimate way of comparing drivers).

I just hope Schumacher is the same guy as ever as that would mean Rosberg is a really really good driver, so seriously, I'm the last guy interested in putting Schumacher down :p

you cant expect someone to be aas good as they wrere 20 years ago, im only 30 and already feel like i cant be bothered to do alot of stuff i would when i was 20

#12959 Atomicus

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 01:10

you cant expect someone to be aas good as they wrere 20 years ago, im only 30 and already feel like i cant be bothered to do alot of stuff i would when i was 20


Nobody said anything about expecting Schumacher to be as he was 20 years ago, but from what I know Schumacher in 2006 was competitive and looked the same as ever was, that was just 5 years ago. I guess some people may have expected him to be at least as he was then, taking into account he returned to the sport (for two years now!).

Obviously I don't think he should be winning nor anything like that given the car he has, I'm just talking in relationship to his teammate and that with the exception of some random moments he has not done anything special.

I want to repeat that I'm not personally expecting anything from Schumacher, and I'm not really blaming him for anything. Just trying to say that IMO beneath all that exaggerated criticism there may be a point in relationship to his return. Which of course some of his fans are free to blindly ignore.


Said this I sincerely wish him the best, wish he and his teammate finish tomorrow high in the standings.

Edited by Atomicus, 10 September 2011 - 01:14.


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#12960 GoRacing

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 09:27

MS is way too slow in the middle sector, I think he is running very low DF. Nico does 28.8 and the fastest MS did was 29.4 I think.

#12961 arknor

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 09:54

MS is way too slow in the middle sector, I think he is running very low DF. Nico does 28.8 and the fastest MS did was 29.4 I think.

was the same at spa schumacher was always slow in the middle compared to rosberg but faster in S1 and alot of the time faster in S3

#12962 ivand911

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:06

MS is way too slow in the middle sector, I think he is running very low DF. Nico does 28.8 and the fastest MS did was 29.4 I think.

Equal 1st and 3rd sector. Middle 28,6 for Nico, 28,7 for Michael.


#12963 GoRacing

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:09

Equal 1st and 3rd sector. Middle 28,6 for Nico, 28,7 for Michael.

This was using the softs. MS may need a set of softs to get through to Q2, his pace on the mediums was terrible. Hope he can find some more pace in qualifying. They were reporting on the BBC that MS was not happy with his set up.

Edited by GoRacing, 10 September 2011 - 10:12.


#12964 salamin

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:17

This was using the softs. MS may need a set of softs to get through to Q2, his pace on the mediums was terrible. Hope he can find some more pace in qualifying. They were reporting on the BBC that MS was not happy with his set up.


you mean Q1, right ?

#12965 Schumacher7

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:38

you mean Q1, right ?

No he doesn't because everybody gets into Q1 no matter what, he said get through to Q2, not through Q2.

#12966 salamin

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:42

sorry, missed the "to" - and yeah he probably have to use 1 set of softs

#12967 Frans

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:44

Germans are Germans and they are right about they're childhood-hero.

6. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m23.875s + 0.705 22
7. Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1m24.114s + 0.944 20



It's all over.

#12968 merschu

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 10:59

Germans are Germans and they are right about they're childhood-hero.




It's all over.


Where were you yesterday?Do you ever see any Schumi fans making silly posts like this? None of us got excited seeing Schumi's FP2 times last day! Or bragged about it.

Edited by merschu, 10 September 2011 - 11:01.


#12969 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 11:42

guys, stop replying to this joker.

#12970 Frans

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 11:49

I was on a good place .. I've seen the Friday times, and wasn't all to happy with them. I have spoken a lot of peopel who watch F1 as well, and about 60% are, ehm, where real Schumacher fans as well. I have not seen or spoken ONE Schumi fan who tells me; "I'm happy he is back in F1" and all of them are saying "He has lost it" and "He should stop". His comeback did not deliver up to date, and weezers, a 5th place is the best he can get?

Of course your not going to brag about a 3th place on a freakin' Friday. Because we all know that was a so called 'Glory Run' how Michael does them occasionally on Fridays. Call it a 'feel good' moment for the fans who are still sticking with him.

Michael isn't the fastest German eighter, he's not even in the top three of fastest Germans of F1 today. How long can he walk around like this? I mean, the man must still have SOME selfrespect, don't ya think? It's Germany's WET dream having Schumacher driving THEIR Mercedes GP F1 car.... But the taste must be bitter, because "Night Immer, aber Immer Ofter: P11" ....

Also I wished he would race more up front, because losing out top spots are more sweet. I can get excited about the moments where Michael drives an entire race, struggles in the midfield and then finishes just out the top 10. BUT, I've had enough of those now, the joy is big, but come on. He can do better than that. He cannot play with the bigboys, so I am wondering what drives his in the 1st place to be where he is and doing what he does.

Why doesn't he move over and give a young talent his chance? Like, .. a woman? :rotfl: (sorry, couldn't resist to put that there, please ignore it if you can)

#12971 Lelouch

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 12:26

At least the Spa qualifying fail made them realise that they shouldn't waste soft tyres to get Michael to Q2, i think it's already an advantage for tomorrow.

#12972 arknor

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 12:27

are the mods ever going to sort frans out?
reminds of another forum i use where some rich guy was liked by the mods because he had a few expensive cars , every friday night he would post while drunk and threaten to beat people up and offering them out in a top trumps style bank balance challenge..

abasolute tosser who only recently got banned after he scammed another forum member over a car :rolleyes:

all frans does is troll everyone knows it but for some reason it gets ignored , people have had temp for replying to him even.....

#12973 Clatter

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 12:32

are the mods ever going to sort frans out?
reminds of another forum i use where some rich guy was liked by the mods because he had a few expensive cars , every friday night he would post while drunk and threaten to beat people up and offering them out in a top trumps style bank balance challenge..

abasolute tosser who only recently got banned after he scammed another forum member over a car :rolleyes:

all frans does is troll everyone knows it but for some reason it gets ignored , people have had temp for replying to him even.....


It's because most of us who have been around a while see him as comical light relief.

#12974 arknor

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 12:36

It's because most of us who have been around a while see him as comical light relief.

loads of others this seaosn have started doing it aswell because they see him getting away with it though theres atleast 5 of them now

#12975 arknor

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:02

loads of others this seaosn have started doing it aswell because they see him getting away with it though theres atleast 5 of them now

ahh well wont see frans unril atleast tommorow now unless he comes out with some conspiracy theory how they made rosberg slower

#12976 Frans

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:04

Oh come on, I will have to go and send congratulations to a lot of people because of today.

Congrats here as well. :up:



#12977 Szoelloe

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:04

ahh well wont see frans unril atleast tommorow now unless he comes out with some conspiracy theory how they made rosberg slower


WasnT he on hards to MS's softs?

#12978 salamin

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:04

Rosberg on a 1 stopper

#12979 ivand911

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:04

Why MS come out? For 8th place instead on 9th? Maybe 9th was better to start, clear line? Why? Why he didn't save this set?

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#12980 Diablobb81

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:05

Yeah, different pit strategy for tomorrow.

Merc sent him out in worst traffic.

#12981 Augurk

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:05

WasnT he on hards to MS's softs?

Meds vs softs. Yep. I think they were pretty equal this time. .7 for gap between meds and softs seems alright.

And of course Ros is not on a one stopper. He will make 1 stop extra compared to MSC, as he has one extra set of softs. Will get the meds out of the way quickly if they're smart.

Edited by Augurk, 10 September 2011 - 13:07.


#12982 PoliFanAthic

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:06

Michael was on softs. I wonder whether he didn't lose out a bit due to Hamilton's late breaking.

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:06

Why MS come out? For 8th place instead on 9th? Maybe 9th was better to start, clear line? Why? Why he didn't save this set?


Having come out, he should have come out earlier and did 2 hot laps, 2nd hot lap is always quicker. At least he could have been ahead of Petrov and start on the clean side. Idiots at Mercedes.

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:06

MS had fastest first sector (26.9) on his flying lap but he was hel back by Hamilton's mistake infront of him. He was clearly aiming for P6.

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:06

ahh well wont see frans unril atleast tommorow now unless he comes out with some conspiracy theory how they made rosberg slower


To be fair Rosbergs was on the medium tyre. So i admit Schumacher beating him is nothing good. I am suprised they dident put MS on the Mediums to save tyres either. Rosberg will probs get him tomrrow with the extra set.

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:07

the traffic situation was not good in the end, I thought they wouldn´t drive at all...
Will be interesting to see how the different strategies work out

#12987 salamin

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:08

To be fair Rosbergs was on the medium tyre. So i admit Schumacher beating him is nothing good. I am suprised they dident put MS on the Mediums to save tyres either. Rosberg will probs get him tomrrow with the extra set.


the advantage of the extra set disappears if he's on a 1 stopper

#12988 ivand911

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:08

To be fair Rosbergs was on the medium tyre. So i admit Schumacher beating him is nothing good. I am suprised they dident put MS on the Mediums to save tyres either. Rosberg will probs get him tomrrow with the extra set.

Not sure , hard tyres are not good at the start, he will lose places to the guys behind. Will see.


#12989 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:08

we'll see, this race is usually a bit strange....
nico hasn't had a fantastic racecraft lately but monza requires a bit less than others...

Anyway, Mercedes are just racing Renault.

#12990 Augurk

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:08

Tyre wear is low at Monza. I'm not convinced this is the optimal strategy for Rosberg. Saving the extra set of softs doesn't amount to much here if you ask me. And he'll probably be live bait for the cars around him at the start.

#12991 BRK

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:10

Pretty much what I expected, but I think MS got caught in traffic at the end, wasn't it Hamilton directly ahead of him who made the mistake? Unlucky, he was probably setting himself up for a tow from the McLaren, very annoying nevertheless.

Should be a great race tomorrow. Rosberg is the only guy on mediums in the entire field, either they've gone completely bonkers or it's going to pay off handsomsely.

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:11

Interview : lap ruined by Lewis. A little bit disappointed.

#12993 ivand911

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:12

MS said that Lewis mistake, slow him a bit.
Guys outside top 10 can chose their tyres for the race.

Edited by ivand911, 10 September 2011 - 13:13.


#12994 PoliFanAthic

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:13

He lost the time in the 2nd sector, so yeah, as I thought. Quite unfortunate, hopefully we'll get by Petrov without losing any parts of the car.

#12995 DutchCruijff

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:14

How many sets of soft tyres did Schumacher and Rosberg each use?

#12996 BRK

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:15

Interview : lap ruined by Lewis. A little bit disappointed.



MS said that Lewis mistake, slow him a bit.


Arrgh. :well:


Oh come on, I will have to go and send congratulations to a lot of people because of today.

Congrats here as well. :up:


Are you some kind of a masochist that just comes here to get abused every single time? I can understand ridiculous opinions but trolling so blatantly is sort of against the rules.
Have you no self-respect at all? :lol:

#12997 salamin

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:15

How many sets of soft tyres did Schumacher and Rosberg each use?

rosberg:1, MS:2

#12998 Augurk

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:16

I expect an extremely boring race.

#12999 Lelouch

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:17

He lost the time in the 2nd sector, so yeah, as I thought. Quite unfortunate, hopefully we'll get by Petrov without losing any parts of the car.


:cry:

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:23

How many sets of soft tyres did Schumacher and Rosberg each use?

Offtopic: hoi! ;)

Ontopic: Rosberg and Schumacher were on meds in Q1, 1x soft for Q2 if I recall correctly, 1 med for Ros and 1 soft for Msc @ Q3.

And seriously, how stupid could they be at the BBC. Nobody ever saw the teammates going different directions on tyre choice. "All hail to Michael!" Yeah right, Hamilton might have cost him a bit but there's still a gap. Although now I think of it, he would've been only a tenth down on Rosberg (providing the gap between soft and med = 1s). Good performance with a bad result for Schumacher, Rosberg might have a small advantage at the end of the last stint depending on tyre deg. He'll struggle more to get well of the line, if the guys around him will stay on the softs.