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#13001 GoRacing

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:06

Why MS come out? For 8th place instead on 9th? Maybe 9th was better to start, clear line? Why? Why he didn't save this set?


Having come out, he should have come out earlier and did 2 hot laps, 2nd hot lap is always quicker. At least he could have been ahead of Petrov and start on the clean side. Idiots at Mercedes.

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#13002 Sof1

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:06

MS had fastest first sector (26.9) on his flying lap but he was hel back by Hamilton's mistake infront of him. He was clearly aiming for P6.

#13003 Massa_f1

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:06

ahh well wont see frans unril atleast tommorow now unless he comes out with some conspiracy theory how they made rosberg slower


To be fair Rosbergs was on the medium tyre. So i admit Schumacher beating him is nothing good. I am suprised they dident put MS on the Mediums to save tyres either. Rosberg will probs get him tomrrow with the extra set.

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:07

the traffic situation was not good in the end, I thought they wouldn´t drive at all...
Will be interesting to see how the different strategies work out

#13005 salamin

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:08

To be fair Rosbergs was on the medium tyre. So i admit Schumacher beating him is nothing good. I am suprised they dident put MS on the Mediums to save tyres either. Rosberg will probs get him tomrrow with the extra set.


the advantage of the extra set disappears if he's on a 1 stopper

#13006 ivand911

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:08

To be fair Rosbergs was on the medium tyre. So i admit Schumacher beating him is nothing good. I am suprised they dident put MS on the Mediums to save tyres either. Rosberg will probs get him tomrrow with the extra set.

Not sure , hard tyres are not good at the start, he will lose places to the guys behind. Will see.


#13007 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:08

we'll see, this race is usually a bit strange....
nico hasn't had a fantastic racecraft lately but monza requires a bit less than others...

Anyway, Mercedes are just racing Renault.

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:08

Tyre wear is low at Monza. I'm not convinced this is the optimal strategy for Rosberg. Saving the extra set of softs doesn't amount to much here if you ask me. And he'll probably be live bait for the cars around him at the start.

#13009 BRK

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:10

Pretty much what I expected, but I think MS got caught in traffic at the end, wasn't it Hamilton directly ahead of him who made the mistake? Unlucky, he was probably setting himself up for a tow from the McLaren, very annoying nevertheless.

Should be a great race tomorrow. Rosberg is the only guy on mediums in the entire field, either they've gone completely bonkers or it's going to pay off handsomsely.

#13010 Diablobb81

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:11

Interview : lap ruined by Lewis. A little bit disappointed.

#13011 ivand911

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:12

MS said that Lewis mistake, slow him a bit.
Guys outside top 10 can chose their tyres for the race.

Edited by ivand911, 10 September 2011 - 13:13.


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:13

He lost the time in the 2nd sector, so yeah, as I thought. Quite unfortunate, hopefully we'll get by Petrov without losing any parts of the car.

#13013 DutchCruijff

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:14

How many sets of soft tyres did Schumacher and Rosberg each use?

#13014 BRK

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:15

Interview : lap ruined by Lewis. A little bit disappointed.



MS said that Lewis mistake, slow him a bit.


Arrgh. :well:


Oh come on, I will have to go and send congratulations to a lot of people because of today.

Congrats here as well. :up:


Are you some kind of a masochist that just comes here to get abused every single time? I can understand ridiculous opinions but trolling so blatantly is sort of against the rules.
Have you no self-respect at all? :lol:

#13015 salamin

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:15

How many sets of soft tyres did Schumacher and Rosberg each use?

rosberg:1, MS:2

#13016 Augurk

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:16

I expect an extremely boring race.

#13017 Lelouch

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:17

He lost the time in the 2nd sector, so yeah, as I thought. Quite unfortunate, hopefully we'll get by Petrov without losing any parts of the car.


:cry:

Edited by Lelouch, 10 September 2011 - 13:17.


#13018 Jejking

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:23

How many sets of soft tyres did Schumacher and Rosberg each use?

Offtopic: hoi! ;)

Ontopic: Rosberg and Schumacher were on meds in Q1, 1x soft for Q2 if I recall correctly, 1 med for Ros and 1 soft for Msc @ Q3.

And seriously, how stupid could they be at the BBC. Nobody ever saw the teammates going different directions on tyre choice. "All hail to Michael!" Yeah right, Hamilton might have cost him a bit but there's still a gap. Although now I think of it, he would've been only a tenth down on Rosberg (providing the gap between soft and med = 1s). Good performance with a bad result for Schumacher, Rosberg might have a small advantage at the end of the last stint depending on tyre deg. He'll struggle more to get well of the line, if the guys around him will stay on the softs.

#13019 DutchCruijff

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:27

I don't know if I was still dreaming but wasn't Nico on softs in Q1, going out on 2 runs?

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#13020 Diablobb81

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:29

I don't know if I was still dreaming but wasn't Nico on softs in Q1, going out on 2 runs?


No, he just did one more hot lap than Michael on mediums.

Michael should have done it too since he risked getting in Q2.

Edited by Diablobb81, 10 September 2011 - 13:29.


#13021 DutchCruijff

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:31

I was dreaming.

#13022 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:32

Michael should have done it too since he risked getting in Q2.

how can you say that now when it's clear that he shouldn't have done that and it played out ok?

i mean...ok, demand safety when the close call gets wrong but why when it was a right call? this is f1, not safety parade

#13023 Longtimefan

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:37

I think he could have been in 6th had Hamilton not ruined his last lap.

Just hope he has a good start and keeps the front wing intact, bit scary with Petrov so close.


#13024 ivand911

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:38

I also think they have different set up. We will see which is better for the race.

#13025 ivand911

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:41

I think he could have been in 6th had Hamilton not ruined his last lap.

Just hope he has a good start and keeps the front wing intact, bit scary with Petrov so close.

Don't worry Bruno is behind. :rotfl:


#13026 GoRacing

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:46

I think he could have been in 6th had Hamilton not ruined his last lap.

Just hope he has a good start and keeps the front wing intact, bit scary with Petrov so close.


Yes, that too a very tight first corner. Hope Petrov doesn't do something stupid.

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:48

MS had fastest first sector (26.9) on his flying lap but he was hel back by Hamilton's mistake infront of him. He was clearly aiming for P6.

:up:
Yup. Buggered by LH, but otherwise two more good days for grandpa. A good start tomorrow could see him chasing 5th or 6th at least.

Edited by Group B, 10 September 2011 - 13:49.


#13028 GoRacing

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:52

Pretty much what I expected, but I think MS got caught in traffic at the end, wasn't it Hamilton directly ahead of him who made the mistake? Unlucky, he was probably setting himself up for a tow from the McLaren, very annoying nevertheless.

Should be a great race tomorrow. Rosberg is the only guy on mediums in the entire field, either they've gone completely bonkers or it's going to pay off handsomsely.


I really cant understand the strategy for Nico. He had the pace for 4th or 5th definitely. Tyre wear is low here and he will be so slow off the line that everybody behind him on softs will just drive past him. Are they expecting a safety car early in which case he can get the medium tyres out of the way early and run with 2 new set of softs. Can't think of anything else.

#13029 ivand911

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:56

I really cant understand the strategy for Nico. He had the pace for 4th or 5th definitely. Tyre wear is low here and he will be so slow off the line that everybody behind him on softs will just drive past him. Are they expecting a safety car early in which case he can get the medium tyres out of the way early and run with 2 new set of softs. Can't think of anything else.

Agree, he count on SC. And he could be right there.


#13030 BRK

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:57

Yes, that too a very tight first corner. Hope Petrov doesn't do something stupid.


Or Senna. Both quick starting Renaults.

First corner's a nightmare here, hope he gets away cleanly and doesn't get bottled up on the outsideat the exit, that'd completely wreck his race.

I think Merc have some good straightline speed so he should be able to make up some places quickly, after which it'll be a matter of keeping them behind, easier said than done at this track and the DRS.

Looking forward to it. I for one don't think it's going to be processional.


#13031 ivand911

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 13:59

There will be a lot of overtaking. You overtake in one DRS zone and been overtaken on the next one.

Edited by ivand911, 10 September 2011 - 14:00.


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 14:10

Agree, he count on SC. And he could be right there.

its monza though are we really likely to see an SC? i think not and he will lose so much time to everyone on the softs also as its not a high tyre wear track the softs are probably going to last for along time

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 14:15

I'm dissaponted really. Putting him out in the middle of the traffic is such a stupid idea! What were they doing when all were in the garage after their first attempt??!At that time the track was clear! Idiots. And then just one hot lap, really smart. And then Lewis' mistake and now he's behing Petrov on the dirty side of the grid. He also didn't save any extra sets of tyres. Blah

Rosberg might lose or might move up the field. If the SC comes in first 5-7 laps, he might finish in top 5 or maybe a chance for a podium.

EDIT:

For Michael, qualifying today went mostly according to plan:

“I don’t think we could have taken much more; maybe I could have ended up one place higher. I didn’t have an ideal fast lap as I tried to use the slipstream from Lewis but then he locked up in the second chicane, which made me lock up too. However I will be on soft tyres tomorrow which should be better for my race.

"As our race pace looked quite good yesterday, I was more focusing on the race and trying to use the tyres in the right way. For tomorrow, I will try to get a good start and take it from there.”


Edited by zelpre, 10 September 2011 - 14:38.


#13034 Mastah

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 17:47

Another horrible quali performamce and another very creative excuse from Michael:

I didn’t have an ideal fast lap as I tried to use the slipstream from Lewis but then he locked up in the second chicane, which made me lock up too.


So if Lewis crashed out in second chicane, that would made Schumi to crash too :lol:? "He hit the wall, which made me hit the wall too" :lol:. Maybe their minds are somehow connected, so something "made him" to do that :lol:?

Anyway, he's 2 tenths behind Renault, which was 5 tenths slower than Mercedes, as was proved in Q2, so overall he's at least 7 tenths off car's potential. How long Mercedes can tolerate such a pathetic quali pace? And don't tell me fables about one driver focusing on quali, while other has a set-up for race, that's nice fable, but as proved by leaders at Red Bull, McLaren or Ferrari, who are dominant both during Saturday and Sunday, it's only true in dreams, not in a real world.

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 17:50

Another horrible quali performamce and another very creative excuse from Michael:



So if Lewis crashed out in second chicane, that would made Schumi to crash too :lol:? "He hit the wall, which made me hit the wall too" :lol:. Maybe their minds are somehow connected, so something "made him" to do that :lol:?

Anyway, he's 2 tenths behind Renault, which was 5 tenths slower than Mercedes, as was proved in Q2, so overall he's at least 7 tenths off car's potential. How long Mercedes can tolerate such a pathetic quali pace? And don't tell me fables about one driver focusing on quali, while other has a set-up for race, that's nice fable, but as proved by leaders at Red Bull, McLaren or Ferrari, who are dominant both during Saturday and Sunday, it's only true in dreams, not in a real world.


Mercedes is a damn joke, it looks like that they don't care about results, instead they seem to only care about the press talking about them because of Schumacher.

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 17:55

Mercedes is a damn joke, it looks like that they don't care about results, instead they seem to only care about the press talking about them because of Schumacher.


:rotfl:

perhaps this brings more money than the points earned in races! They are real funny....Nobby, Schumi & Brawn! Won't like to miss them.
Give the F1 something from "Roncalli"! :cat:

Edited by puxanando, 10 September 2011 - 17:55.


#13037 Diablobb81

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 18:08

Oh, look. The ....... have gathered. :rolleyes:

Edited by Diablobb81, 10 September 2011 - 18:09.


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 18:12

Oh, look. The ....... have gathered. :rolleyes:



Yeah three trolls having a gala time! :lol: They will probably delete this comment but keep the flame baiters comments!

#13039 DutchCruijff

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 18:14

:rotfl:

perhaps this brings more money than the points earned in races! They are real funny....Nobby, Schumi & Brawn! Won't like to miss them.
Give the F1 something from "Roncalli"! :cat:

Why aren't you in the kitchen?

Edited by DutchCruijff, 10 September 2011 - 18:15.


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#13040 Diablobb81

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 18:23

Yeah three trolls having a gala time! :lol: They will probably delete this comment but keep the flame baiters comments!


Of course they will keep the flame going. Mastah only managed to get everything wrong in his post.

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 19:05

Oh, look. The ....... have gathered. :rolleyes:


LOL, just sit back and entertain yourself. They are actually funny.


#13042 puxanando

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 20:20

Why aren't you in the kitchen?

:rolleyes: Are you?

#13043 ivand911

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 20:23

Oh, look. The ....... have gathered. :rolleyes:

Yeah, in full force. But,they can entertain us. As usual. :p

Why aren't you in the kitchen?

Oh, no, you hurt her feelings. :cool:
Maybe Mastah miss the message to Alonso to do the same?? To look for a tow. Michael find tow, but Lewis messed it as usual. He maybe expected MS to jump Lewis? But , this is not long jump.

Edited by ivand911, 10 September 2011 - 20:29.


#13044 arknor

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 20:25

:rolleyes: Are you?

alonsos opinion of you would be very low if he read your posts in this thread..

i could probably quote atleast 10 comments from alonso in the last 12 months about schumacher and all of them very postive

#13045 puxanando

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 20:38

alonsos opinion of you would be very low if he read your posts in this thread..

i could probably quote atleast 10 comments from alonso in the last 12 months about schumacher and all of them very postive


where are my posts 'negative'? Live is hard! And Alonso do well with making compliments to ALL the drivers!


#13046 ivand911

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 20:43

where are my posts 'negative'? Live is hard! And Alonso do well with making compliments to ALL the drivers!

It is hard to be Alonso now. Vettel equal him and soon(next year) will overtake him in the title race. Life is hard. And MS is laughing, looking their fight down below. In the end of the season all other will have total 6 titles!

Edited by ivand911, 10 September 2011 - 20:48.


#13047 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 20:44

Live is hard!

well, life wasn't so hard to all of us
it could explain some of the posts you write here though..if it's been so hard to you

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 20:54

. Vettel equal him and soon(next year) will overtake him in the title race.!


:drunk: You are Nostradamus? Can you please tell me the Lotto-numbers for next week too??


#13049 ivand911

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 21:04

:drunk: You are Nostradamus? Can you please tell me the Lotto-numbers for next week too??

It is not working this way. I can't see short future, I see only in distant future. And no, I will not tell you the Lotto numbers in any week from the distant future. This information is only for me. But, you can bet on Vettel for next year champion. Enough said.

Edited by ivand911, 10 September 2011 - 21:05.


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Posted 10 September 2011 - 21:08

:drunk: You are Nostradamus? Can you please tell me the Lotto-numbers for next week too??


7, 68, 72, 91, 154