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#13101 ClubmanGT

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:43

He moved more than once on only the one occasion that I saw. He placed his car very well in the braking zone and didn't barge into anyone. He still should have been punished for 'moving' again though, that is for sure. But otherwise, very good fun to watch.

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#13102 Urawa

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:43

If Hamilton had done the same day that Schumacher would have been penalized. MS dirty game


or collect the 21. reprimand

#13103 EdwardCullen

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:44

If Hamilton had done the same day that Schumacher would have been penalized. MS dirty game

Hahah
After a great race like this, now the haters cry MS DIRTY :lol: cox that's the only thing they can cry now... :lol:

#13104 froggy22

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:44

seems to be the only driver on the grid who will defend his position in a inferior car. say what you want schumis defending today was top class. only once did he take it a bit to far today, every other time was hard but fair

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:45

If Hamilton had done the same day that Schumacher would have been penalized. MS dirty game

Yup. MS lacks the fair play / sportsmanship gene

#13106 EdwardCullen

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:45

I am a 100% Kimi fan but i say: FANTASTIC DRIVE BY SCHUMACHER! :up::up::up:

:up:
That repass on Lewis into second chicane was fantastic :clap:

#13107 GoRacing

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:46

Just heard Ross talking on BBC, Charlie Whiting did speak to him about asking MS to leave room, hence Ross' instructions to MS. He also said that MS was talking on the radio and hit the rev limiter (mistake on MS' part) that let Hamilton through.

#13108 Richardc

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:47

Wouldn't have changed the outcome, so no problem! Awesome defending

#13109 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:47

Shumi was consistently three, four and even five tenths of a second faster than Lewis in the first sector while Lewis' car was bouncing off the rev-limiter for half the straight. Lewis seemed to lack KERS as well, since he didn't use it on the straight whereas Shumi did.

why would he use his kers if he was already bouncing off the limiter with the slipstream?


yes, the mercedes was very fast on straights...but was slow in corners and as an overall package I think it's easy to pick the mclaren. probably short geared, but still set the fastest lap

#13110 sharo

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:47

Bugger off all you trolls :wave:

Great hard racing by the old man. No one can spoil the joy.

#13111 Scotracer

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:48

Even after Lewis got passed, MSC's pace was pretty good. All in all, an encouraging weekend but it was to be expected that the W02 would be decent around here.

#13112 EdwardCullen

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:48

seems to be the only driver on the grid who will defend his position in a inferior car. say what you want schumis defending today was top class. only once did he take it a bit to far today, every other time was hard but fair

Exactly, reminded me of spa 1995 :up:
Last race Nico could not defend , he was passed by everyone in few laps
Here with two drs zones and on a track where it's slipstream fiesta , he managed this fantastic race :up:

Edited by EdwardCullen, 11 September 2011 - 13:51.


#13113 NateF

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:48

So does anyone think Schumacher can get on the podium before the season ends?

#13114 ivand911

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:49

:up:
That repass on Lewis into second chicane was fantastic :clap:

I think MS pass him there in the first lap too. On the Timing he was third in first lap.

So does anyone think Schumacher can get on the podium before the season ends?

No. :rolleyes: DRS kill great drives.

Edited by ivand911, 11 September 2011 - 13:51.


#13115 Richardc

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:49

If there's a wet messed up race, yes. If not, probably not, it requires too many of the top 6 cars to crash out.

#13116 black magic

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:50

michael got pasrt lewis 3 times today.

he went into turn 1 behind hen got in fron. got him afer the safety and retook him on the outside

where are the montoya fans when you want them??

#13117 SlateGray

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:51

He moved more than once on only the one occasion that I saw. He placed his car very well in the braking zone and didn't barge into anyone. He still should have been punished for 'moving' again though, that is for sure. But otherwise, very good fun to watch.

Must be why Ross felt the need to publicly chastise Schumacher on the radio, that or the FIA made Ross an offer he could not refuse, "tell Schumacher to smarten up or we will penalise him." What other motive could Ross have had for humiliating Schumacher that way with millions of fans listening?

#13118 ivand911

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:52

Must be why Ross felt the need to publicly chastise Schumacher on the radio, that or the FIA made Ross an offer he could not refuse, "tell Schumacher to smarten up or we will penalise him." What other motive could Ross have had for humiliating Schumacher that way with millions of fans listening?

There was only one humiliated today and it wasn't Michael. :rotfl:


#13119 BRK

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:52

Well I've nothing against Hamilton but got to say Michael just schooled him today. Bet Hamilton will wish he never ends up having to race MS again. :D

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#13120 razno

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:53

Didn't in first lap Schumacher jumped up to 3rd (and Alonso repassed him shortly afterwards)?

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:53

Didn't in first lap Schumacher jumped up to 3rd (and Alonso repassed him shortly afterwards)?

Yes and no. He had a great start up to 3rd, then was passed by Hamilton just before the Safety Car was announced.

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:54

Yup. MS lacks the fair play / sportsmanship gene

Still at it Slate? Keep trying, some posters here may not have had the opportunity to witness your skewed view on all things MS.

#13123 EdwardCullen

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:54

michael got pasrt lewis 3 times today.

he went into turn 1 behind hen got in fron. got him afer the safety and retook him on the outside

:clap: :clap:

#13124 arknor

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:54

So does anyone think Schumacher can get on the podium before the season ends?

no the car isnt capable of fighting for anything more thana forth or fifth position imo, maybe suzuka is the only other chance at a top 5 position again this year

#13125 Augurk

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:55

So does anyone think Schumacher can get on the podium before the season ends?

There seems to be a build up in performances towards the end of the season... who knows. :up:

#13126 AndreasF1

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:55

Niki Lauda just said on RTL that MS drove a perfect race and maximized his car's potential. His duel with Lewis was awesome and pure racing. Lauda should know...

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:58

I am a through and through Ferrari fan.I became that because of Michael.It was a bad race for Ferrari but Schumacher's race just gave me joy.He is one of the few racers out there and what a pleasure to see him giving it his all showing that form is temporary,but class is permanent.I bet Hamilton's wish of racing Schumacher has been fulfilled now.

#13128 baddog

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 13:59

Must be why Ross felt the need to publicly chastise Schumacher on the radio, that or the FIA made Ross an offer he could not refuse, "tell Schumacher to smarten up or we will penalise him." What other motive could Ross have had for humiliating Schumacher that way with millions of fans listening?

The message was not primarily for Michael, it was to make sure no idiot steward got any funny ideas.

You will note that Ross told him to leave room into ASCARI, not where Hamilton was whining about him blocking at all. Ross was saying to the world and stewards that (as seen with Button) a sensible clean overtake in the right place would not be blocked in any way.

And in the end it wasnt.

Lewis' daft overlap into the right hander was not remotely on, he should have done what even Bruno Senna had the sense to do with Buemi and backed out of it and come back later.

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 14:01

There was only one humiliated today and it wasn't Michael. :rotfl:

Who do you suggest it was the guy that finished a 1/4 of a minute in front of Schumacher at the end when it mattered.
All Schumacher did was get in the way of the real race with his trade mark goonish style
Shame Schumachers unsporting driving robbed us of the Alonso Hamilton Button clash we should have had, which would have been a taste treat of top professional racing, hard racing while at the same time respecting their competitors by not resorting to amateurish double block moves

Edited by SlateGray, 11 September 2011 - 14:05.


#13130 MightyMoose

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 14:02

Yeah, everyone went outside at Curve Grande because you get the inside for the 2nd Chicane, the natural line into Grande sweeps you in tight and then wide, LH was again sticking his nose into a space that inevitably was going to close, at least this time he had the brains to get out of it.

#13131 BRK

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 14:03

Niki Lauda just said on RTL that MS drove a perfect race and maximized his car's potential. His duel with Lewis was awesome and pure racing. Lauda should know...



I am a through and through Ferrari fan.I became that because of Michael.It was a bad race for Ferrari but Schumacher's race just gave me joy.He is one of the few racers out there and what a pleasure to see him giving it his all showing that form is temporary,but class is permanent.I bet Hamilton's wish of racing Schumacher has been fulfilled now.


Amen. :up:

#13132 AndreasF1

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 14:04

Who do you suggest it was the guy that finished a 1/4 of a minute in front of Schumacher at the end when it mattered.
All Schumacher did was get in the way of the real race with his trade mark goonish style
Shame Schumachers unsporting driving robbed us of the Alonso Hamilton Button clash we should have had, which would have been a taste treat of top professional racing, hard racing while at the same time respecting their competitors by not resorting to amateurish block double moves


:rotfl: :rotfl: :down:

#13133 SlateGray

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 14:04

The message was not primarily for Michael, it was to make sure no idiot steward got any funny ideas.

You will note that Ross told him to leave room into ASCARI, not where Hamilton was whining about him blocking at all. Ross was saying to the world and stewards that (as seen with Button) a sensible clean overtake in the right place would not be blocked in any way.

And in the end it wasnt.

Lewis' daft overlap into the right hander was not remotely on, he should have done what even Bruno Senna had the sense to do with Buemi and backed out of it and come back later.


Charlie spoke to Ross it is already noted, nice try

#13134 MightyMoose

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 14:05

Who do you suggest it was the guy that finished a 1/4 of a minute in front of Schumacher at the end when it mattered.
All Schumacher did was get in the way of the real race with his trade mark goonish style
Shame Schumachers unsporting driving robbed us of the Alonso Hamilton Button clash we should have had, which would have been a taste treat of top professional racing, hard racing while at the same time respecting their competitors by not resorting to amateurish block double moves


Suggest we add another name to the list of those humiliated today..... SlateGray just did it to himself though.

What an embarrassing set of claims.

How DARE MS get in the way of the real race, what a bastard! if only Petrov hadn't got in the way at Abu Dhabi last year..... oh wait.. he was racing.

Seriously, come on Slate, at least try to come up with something sensible...... I know it's hard to overcome your hatred, but you can do it, feel the force !

#13135 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 14:05

You will note that Ross told him to leave room into ASCARI, not where Hamilton was whining about him blocking at all.

there were 2 calls
the first one I thought Ross told him NOT to leave room in Ascari as that was their weakness. that's where the mclarens passed in the end
the second one was to leave room for lewis but he could have said it just for FIA to hear they are doing everything and want to be fair to lewis.


he was not hard agaisnt lewis but incredibly hard. lewis is also a racer and I think he enjoyed every bit of this race. It's not about putting anyone else to shame, it's about fighting hard

#13136 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 14:08

Seriously, come on Slate, at least try to come up with something sensible......

:) :rotfl: I admire your efforts but be serious :)

let's not feed the only troll that had the courage to pop around here

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 14:08

Niki Lauda just said on RTL that MS drove a perfect race and maximized his car's potential. His duel with Lewis was awesome and pure racing. Lauda should know...

:clap:

#13138 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 14:10

lewis on RTL just saying it doesn't matter how much time he lost, good race, he finished ahead and that's it..

he was clearly disappointed, just didn't want to talk too much

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 14:12

Well I've nothing against Hamilton but got to say Michael just schooled him today. Bet Hamilton will wish he never ends up having to race MS again. :D


How did he school him? By having the faster car down the straight and blatant blocking. Real driver skill that

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 14:12

I am no fan of Lewis Hamilton far from it but he showed maturity beyond his years when dealing with the slow but unsporting and unpredictable Schumacher. Hamilton dispatched the desperate wanderer and finished well down the road but his race was ruined by having to wait of the FIA to tell Ross to tell Schumacher to stop being a Dick. By the time Schumacher got the message any chance for Hamilton to get on the podium was ruined

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 14:13

So does anyone think Schumacher can get on the podium before the season ends?

Nope. As he said, these last tracks have just suited the car very well. Great to see him up there today though!

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 14:14

Schumi did two great things today-
1. gave us, the loyal fans a great race
2. gave the tifosi something to enjoy - Ferrari in podium.

#13143 EdwardCullen

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 14:14

How did he school him? By having the faster car down the straight

Didn't Lewis had the fastest car in the corner? :rotfl:

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 14:15

there were 2 calls
the first one I thought Ross told him NOT to leave room in Ascari as that was their weakness. that's where the mclarens passed in the end
the second one was to leave room for lewis but he could have said it just for FIA to hear they are doing everything and want to be fair to lewis.


he was not hard agaisnt lewis but incredibly hard. lewis is also a racer and I think he enjoyed every bit of this race. It's not about putting anyone else to shame, it's about fighting hard

on both times he said the same - to leave room in ascari

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 14:15

How did he school him? By having the faster car down the straight and blatant blocking. Real driver skill that

Or some drivers forget how to fight, not just to press DRS button.
Lewis was almost crying on RTL. Dark glasses.
Who set the fastest time? One sector is not making fast lap. Stop crying.

Edited by ivand911, 11 September 2011 - 14:17.


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Posted 11 September 2011 - 14:15

I am no fan of Lewis Hamilton far from it but he showed maturity beyond his years when dealing with the slow but unsporting and unpredictable Schumacher. Hamilton dispatched the desperate wanderer and finished well down the road but his race was ruined by having to wait of the FIA to tell Ross to tell Schumacher to stop being a Dick. By the time Schumacher got the message any chance for Hamilton to get on the podium was ruined

:rotfl: :down:

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 14:15

lewis on RTL just saying it doesn't matter how much time he lost, good race, he finished ahead and that's it..

he was clearly disappointed, just didn't want to talk too much

you understand how much PR team must work if hamilton 'speaks his mind'?

#13148 AndreasF1

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 14:16

SlateGray :rotfl: :rotfl:

#13149 Wi000

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 14:16

Great to see Schumi racing at the front again.
Very enjoyable to see him keeping Lewis behind with some hard racing, he schooled him today.
It's going to be fun next year if the Mercedes is a match for the current top teams.



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Posted 11 September 2011 - 14:17

c´mon guys, we´ve learned here that Lewis clearly had the inferior package today, we have to take that into account :eek: