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#13251 Diablobb81

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 10:40

I love how all the di Resta fanboys (Schumacher trolls) have quietened down since Sutil has twice as many points. A tad bit early yes, but I can't see anyone better replacing Michael for '13.


Well, we still have to consider Petrov and Heidfeld as his replacement like someone suggested a few weeks back. :p

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#13252 Wilgot

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 12:21

Great show yesterday! If only the car was a little better... PF1 put Schumi as a loser in the "Winners and Losers". :cool: Gotta love the drama queens!

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 12:22

Great show yesterday! If only the car was a little better... PF1 put Schumi as a loser in the "Winners and Losers". :cool: Gotta love the drama queens!

Let it be. The more they try, the more they suffer :)

#13254 razno

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 12:31

Let it be. The more they try, the more they suffer :)


That why i deleted their bookmark from browser....


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Posted 12 September 2011 - 12:39

Well, we still have to consider Petrov and Heidfeld as his replacement like someone suggested a few weeks back. :p


I think that was probably me.

I have a new observation that the people who most like the little yellow faces are those least able to follow a logical train of thought. Haven't seen you use the little one with the question marks for hair yet. Here, maybe this'll help.

Awful driving from Schumacher yesterday and a reminder why most will never consider him a SPORTING great (hint, the emphasis is important).

Regards.

Edited by Number62, 12 September 2011 - 12:44.


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Posted 12 September 2011 - 12:41

You just had to edit out the stroke, I see. Big of you :up:


Certainly. But also big enough to actually watch the sport I'm discussing. Try do that the next time, it will help. :D

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 12:43

First of all there must be a clear understanding of what you, me and the others assume as SPORTING.

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 12:49

Awful driving from Schumacher yesterday and a reminder why most will never consider him a SPORTING great (hint, the emphasis is important).


"Most" ? Based on what?

Edited by pUs, 12 September 2011 - 12:49.


#13259 Diablobb81

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 12:52

I think that was probably me.

I have a new observation that the people who most like the little yellow faces are those least able to follow a logical train of thought.


Here is a new yellow face : :rotfl:

Your logical train of thought concluded that Michael should have been replaced by Petrov or Heidfeld. Need i say more or do you still cling to the same conclusion?

Hint : there was nothing logical about your opinion.

Edited by Diablobb81, 12 September 2011 - 12:53.


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Posted 12 September 2011 - 12:57

Here is a new yellow face : :rotfl:

Your logical train of thought concluded that Michael should have been replaced by Petrov or Heidfeld. Need i say more or do you still cling to the same conclusion?

Hint : there was nothing logical about your opinion.


Thank you for proving my point in such a succinct manner.



#13261 Diablobb81

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 12:59

Thank you for proving my point in such a succinct manner.


Your point being that you were wrong?

So, do you think Nick should replace Michael? He is free now.

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 14:04

"Most" ? Based on what?


Indeed. The driver of the day was... Schumacher by a vote of 36% in a british heavy online media (James Allen's blog).

http://www.jamesalle...r-of-the-day-2/

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 14:22

In a more equal car with the Mclarens or Ferraris, I cannot imagine someone passing Michael at all, based on the ferocity I saw yesterday in an inferior car.

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 14:27

At 42 years old, MS still shows that he got what it takes.

MS at 42 is better than DC or Brundell in their primes...... I think that ticks those commentators off to no end.

:)

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 14:39

A great race from Michael. It was a very exciting battle between M.S & HAM. Loved it!

Found a picture of Jock Clear with M.S
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 14:44

Is just me but was Schumi's coincide with Jock Clear becoming his engineer????

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 14:58

BBC are taking it to a whole new level in their anti-MS bias. I purposely went to read Andrew Benson's blog and boy I wasn't surprised. Their favourite was totally owned by MS.

http://www.bbc.co.uk.../09/post_2.html

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 15:00

I really wonder what happen with Mark Slade? Official version doesn't seem right. MS doesn't like his way of working? Very strange. Maybe we will hear about him in another team.

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 15:02

Is just me but was Schumi's coincide with Jock Clear becoming his engineer????


Don't know yet, two races is a bit too little to say it's a trend. But I'm beginning to wonder. Perhaps they just work really good together?


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Posted 12 September 2011 - 15:17

I think that was probably me.

I have a new observation that the people who most like the little yellow faces are those least able to follow a logical train of thought. Haven't seen you use the little one with the question marks for hair yet. Here, maybe this'll help.

Awful driving from Schumacher yesterday and a reminder why most will never consider him a SPORTING great (hint, the emphasis is important).


Regards.

:rotfl:
And it's coming from a Lewis "fanatic"

I'm glad Schumi was racy coz it gave me a reason to watch,and make all those who've lately said Ham can't race/isn't safe wheel2wheel eat their own ......

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 16:03



Two weeks ago, Spa and now, Monza... Yeah! The "old" guy knows how to drive... Brilliant!

Amazing Schumi! :clap:

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 16:12

Yes, they've at least given Michael something to work with. The car is far from the complete package, but he's now got it punching above its weight. If they figure out how to build some decent grip into the next chassis, watch out!


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Posted 12 September 2011 - 16:16

McLaren is complaining about Schumacher's driving at Monza (again). Do they have a point, or this is just a whining team in which Hamilton cannnot do wrong, and everyone else is not adequate, or wrong?

I personanly think it's diversion from theirs, what I think is rather a poor season.

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 16:25

:rotfl:
And it's coming from a Lewis "fanatic"



??? Strange observation.

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 16:30

At 42 years old, MS still shows that he got what it takes.

MS at 42 is better than DC or Brundell in their primes...... I think that ticks those commentators off to no end.

:)


So true. :up: DC's anti-MS bias is nauseating. He can't say anything nice without fisrt taking a swipe at the 7 time champ. Just because MS spanked him silly his whole (mostly forgettable) career. What a petty little dweeb. At least Brundle is a little more tempered in his approach.

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 16:38

Driver of the race, again like Canada.

Perfect defending, right on the edge of what is allowed and never crossing it. The way he almost intuitively felt where Hamilton was and put him in his place was extraordinary to watch.

It's just sad seeing him in a car that does not match his talents. Mercedes are pumping everything they got into 2012, so let's see what they can deliver.

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 17:05

Driver of the race, again like Canada.


I thought so too. What a surprise that DC didn't think to even consider it though.

Seriously, DC and to a lesser extent Brundle, were, to use their own words "pushing the boundaries" of biased commentating and in DC's case so far over the line, that he couldn't even see it.

How many times did he prattle on about the unspoken code of conduct that drivers have. Has he ever mentioned this code during LH's many incidents (or how about Alonso putting Vettel on the grass - not even worth a mention?)? DC was always a second rate driver who lucked in to driving more or less the best car his entire career. He cannot hide his chip on his shoulder that he never possessed the skills or mental attitiude needed to win a championship, and he see's everything in Michael that he would have given his right arm to be. I'm almost glad that there will be Sky coverage so I don't have to listen to the donk next year.

Right, I'm off for a lie down....

Edited by DS27, 12 September 2011 - 17:17.


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Posted 12 September 2011 - 17:15

McLaren is complaining about Schumacher's driving at Monza (again). Do they have a point, or this is just a whining team in which Hamilton cannnot do wrong, and everyone else is not adequate, or wrong?

I personanly think it's diversion from theirs, what I think is rather a poor season.

the last few years charlie has listened to the teams to much to the extent that ferrari and mclaren were running to him almost every race pointing fingers because it worked. its no suprise they are still trying

Asked for his verdict on Schumacher's driving, Whitmarsh said: "Pretty harsh. I am not the least impartial but the fact is, I think he was warned twice by the stewards during the event so they presumably saw it was a bit tough. I think the one where he had Lewis on the grass was a scary as hell."

ya stewards warned him after someone went crying to charlie....

scary as hell on the grass you say? were you saying that in 2008 when it was lewis? thought not


just not happy someone in a slower car who should have moved over like a backmarker had the better of your golden boy lewis are we......

Edited by arknor, 12 September 2011 - 17:18.


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Posted 12 September 2011 - 18:31

BBC are taking it to a whole new level in their anti-MS bias. I purposely went to read Andrew Benson's blog and boy I wasn't surprised. Their favourite was totally owned by MS.

http://www.bbc.co.uk.../09/post_2.html

Just read the comments , 80-85% support Michael and don't like Benson article. They also don't like BBC commentators bias.


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Posted 12 September 2011 - 21:48

I really wonder what happen with Mark Slade? Official version doesn't seem right. MS doesn't like his way of working? Very strange. Maybe we will hear about him in another team.


Mark Slade is already gone? Didn't know that... What's the official story?

I agree with some of the above comments. He definitely was DOTD for me too. Didn't anything wrong with his defending, he just knows how too.
And McLaren is just Mclaren. Big optimism before the race and excuses after.

Edit: I don't get why some say Shumi chopped Hamilton. How can it be a chop when he wasn't next to him, in fact Hamilton looked "pretty far" away to me

Edited by HappyPhantom, 12 September 2011 - 21:52.


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Posted 12 September 2011 - 22:01

I've always been highly supportive of the BBC coverage and their commentary team. However their credibility has taken a hit from this event as far as I am concerned.

I've kept my mouth shut until now because one doesn't always know how much of what is said on air comes from the actual person behind the microphone, or from the other person that he hears through that little earphone they all wear. But Brundle has overstepped the line in his blog, especially in the light of the continual conduct of his favorite driver over his entire career and especially this season. Hamilton hasn't been blocking and squeezing, he's been ramming. What Shumacher did was a work of art in defensive driving and should be appreciated for what it was.


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Posted 12 September 2011 - 22:47

I've always been highly supportive of the BBC coverage and their commentary team. However their credibility has taken a hit from this event as far as I am concerned.

I've kept my mouth shut until now because one doesn't always know how much of what is said on air comes from the actual person behind the microphone, or from the other person that he hears through that little earphone they all wear. But Brundle has overstepped the line in his blog, especially in the light of the continual conduct of his favorite driver over his entire career and especially this season. Hamilton hasn't been blocking and squeezing, he's been ramming. What Shumacher did was a work of art in defensive driving and should be appreciated for what it was.


Couldnt have said it better myself. :up:




#13283 SeanValen

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 23:33

I think that was probably me.

I have a new observation that the people who most like the little yellow faces are those least able to follow a logical train of thought. Haven't seen you use the little one with the question marks for hair yet. Here, maybe this'll help.

Awful driving from Schumacher yesterday and a reminder why most will never consider him a SPORTING great (hint, the emphasis is important).

Regards.



Hamilton got away with murder at Monaco this year, he was basically ramming through, especially on Maldenaldo, that wasn't overtaking, that was road rage.


I like Hamilton and despite alot of questionable moves and decisions, his Spa race bascially ended because he did what Schumacher did at Monza lol, go back on his racing line.

Before Schumacher came back into f1, Hamilton always said that Schumacher was the driver he wanted to race against, and that even included Senna, and now he's raced with him, he'll value that Monza race more then many would believe in the years ahead, even Alonso knows and recently talked about Schumaher's 20th anniversary, that it was Alonso's on track tusssles with Schumacher, that will largely be remembered, Hamilton knows the same, and so does Schumacher, clearly enjoyed racing with a fellow racer on a level that isn't possible with most other drivers.

Senna in the early 90s, showed a very tight line, giving Schumacher little room, Schumacher went off, Schumacher learnt from tactics there, and who's Hamilton's idol anyway-Senna.

Hamilton is enjoying this, but he won't admit it straight out, because every word has a political/cause-effect reasons, but believe me, years from now, these are the tusscles everyone will value. The Schumacher/Alonso Imola 2005/2006 moments, immortalised among other moments by fans worldwide.

This is a great era of f1 racing, with perhaps the best combination of drivers, with rules changes that have given a rebirth of making almost every gp a event, I haven't seen one boring race this year, this is awesome, and Hamilton has played a important role in it even without winning a title/, that's what f1 is about sometimes, those on track racing moments, rather then adding up the championship points.

Edited by SeanValen, 12 September 2011 - 23:37.


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Posted 12 September 2011 - 23:56

Hamilton got away with murder at Monaco this year, he was basically ramming through, especially on Maldenaldo, that wasn't overtaking, that was road rage.


I like Hamilton and despite alot of questionable moves and decisions, his Spa race bascially ended because he did what Schumacher did at Monza lol, go back on his racing line.

Before Schumacher came back into f1, Hamilton always said that Schumacher was the driver he wanted to race against, and that even included Senna, and now he's raced with him, he'll value that Monza race more then many would believe in the years ahead, even Alonso knows and recently talked about Schumaher's 20th anniversary, that it was Alonso's on track tusssles with Schumacher, that will largely be remembered, Hamilton knows the same, and so does Schumacher, clearly enjoyed racing with a fellow racer on a level that isn't possible with most other drivers.

Senna in the early 90s, showed a very tight line, giving Schumacher little room, Schumacher went off, Schumacher learnt from tactics there, and who's Hamilton's idol anyway-Senna.

Hamilton is enjoying this, but he won't admit it straight out, because every word has a political/cause-effect reasons, but believe me, years from now, these are the tusscles everyone will value. The Schumacher/Alonso Imola 2005/2006 moments, immortalised among other moments by fans worldwide.

This is a great era of f1 racing, with perhaps the best combination of drivers, with rules changes that have given a rebirth of making almost every gp a event, I haven't seen one boring race this year, this is awesome, and Hamilton has played a important role in it even without winning a title/, that's what f1 is about sometimes, those on track racing moments, rather then adding up the championship points.



Great post as ever, Sean, very thoughtful.

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 23:59

funny how michael never bitched after hamilton squeezed him at st devote.

also funny that DC and brundle also aware that many in f1 tv world view them as biased against schumacher as dc defended more than once.

so keep replying to their blog and give it back. guess socail media works both ways.

pretty limp mclaren calling it harsh but never quite asserting it was illegal.

fact is michael showed more spirit and fight than most of the grid put together. when it was someone like montoya holding schumacher when he was dominant the boardsd used to light up with excitement.

and what do fia have to say calling it too robust but not penalising him. should we be grateful that they didnt or mad that they didnt have the balls to ping him but wanted lewis past.

and lewis has to take it because he knows as well as anyone in the past it has been him dishing it out.

I reckon michael will be unaffected - he has always taken a ahrd nosed attitude and faught for everything - and god dont we and his team members love it.

not bad that the old guy can keep the cameras fixated on him despite battling for 3/4th.

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 00:21

funny how michael never bitched after hamilton squeezed him at st devote.

also funny that DC and brundle also aware that many in f1 tv world view them as biased against schumacher as dc defended more than once.

so keep replying to their blog and give it back. guess socail media works both ways.

pretty limp mclaren calling it harsh but never quite asserting it was illegal.

fact is michael showed more spirit and fight than most of the grid put together. when it was someone like montoya holding schumacher when he was dominant the boardsd used to light up with excitement.

and what do fia have to say calling it too robust but not penalising him. should we be grateful that they didnt or mad that they didnt have the balls to ping him but wanted lewis past.

and lewis has to take it because he knows as well as anyone in the past it has been him dishing it out.

I reckon michael will be unaffected - he has always taken a ahrd nosed attitude and faught for everything - and god dont we and his team members love it.

not bad that the old guy can keep the cameras fixated on him despite battling for 3/4th.



complete true and about schumi vs hammi at saint devote.. judge by youself
http://www.youtube.c...ture=grec_index

or this does not crosed or steps the line david and jordan!!!!





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Posted 13 September 2011 - 01:47

I have a new observation that the people who most like the little yellow faces are those least able to follow a logical train of thought. Haven't seen you use the little one with the question marks for hair yet. Here, maybe this'll help.


Oh, absolutely :rolleyes: . We are also the ones whom can still express sheer joy at the power of competition - unlike some sad little people ....

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 01:56

Personally, Lewis Hamilton's penalty in Malaysia was odd.

In the Italian Grand Prix, you either penalize Alonso and Schumacher or neither at all. I don't want F1 to become like Indycar and penalize blocking. I grew up watching hard racing, and I hate the fact that blocking might no longer be a skill thats appreciated in f1. I can accept the 1 move rule to a degree, but to then not allow a move back onto the racing line is simply stupid. If a defence has been completed you should be allowed to take a decent line for the next corner, simple as. What happened at Monza was against what DC especially went with at Spa, where was moaning at Kobayashi for apparently turning in on Lewis. I can understand the DRS shite, but simply the FIA has the DRS in too long a position for it to work as it should do, to aid potential overtaking, and not allow pure blasting past. In fact, the pure example I can think of involves Schumacher, in Canada, where it made no difference what he did to protect his more than deserved podium, the slow as hell most of the race Webber, still overtook because his car was quicker in the dry.

I loved watching Schumacher and Hamilton, because whether that pathetic excuse for a Senna fan Lewis accepts it or now, it was what I grew up watching. Two very good racers fighting for a position. Far better than blasting past someone.

Another thing I feel is that Schumacher was always going to put the moves on Lewis when he had the chance. I think he must feel Lewis is a mentally weak driver, and possibly someone he marked out when Lewis made heavy weather of beating Massa to the 08 title. In 08 Michael said their would be some interesting battles, and I think we are seeing it. If Mercedes had a good car I think Michael could be right up there again. There is something that has changed since Canada, it is almost as though he believes it himself after the hammering he took in 2010, especially after the Hungary thing. 2012 will be very interesting, as the one person I'd hate to be going up against race in race out is Michael Schumacher. Especially at 43 bloody years old. It all depends on Mercedes I suppose.

In fact, I'd love to see Kimi Raikkonen come back, if only to ensure that Schumacher's comeback isn't as bad as people seem to believe. :rotfl:

Edited by CSF, 13 September 2011 - 01:58.


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Posted 13 September 2011 - 02:01

I've always been highly supportive of the BBC coverage and their commentary team. However their credibility has taken a hit from this event as far as I am concerned.

I've kept my mouth shut until now because one doesn't always know how much of what is said on air comes from the actual person behind the microphone, or from the other person that he hears through that little earphone they all wear. But Brundle has overstepped the line in his blog, especially in the light of the continual conduct of his favorite driver over his entire career and especially this season. Hamilton hasn't been blocking and squeezing, he's been ramming. What Shumacher did was a work of art in defensive driving and should be appreciated for what it was.

I have to appologize, but what are you actually saying? Schumacher is Brundles favorites? I do not follow that relationship every day, but in the past I would have to say that those two had actually strained relationship. In fact, Michael was avoding him whenever possible. These days they probably patch that up, sort off, but its far from perfect. The same with DC.

Edited by Sakae, 13 September 2011 - 02:01.


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Posted 13 September 2011 - 02:07



#13291 Raelene

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 02:15

look at all th at weaving and blocking Lewham is doing to Jenson ;);)

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 02:21



:rotfl: Nice "two moves" from Lewis at the end. The vast majority of that video showed Michael making no moves and defending when Lewis ran out of revs. Amusing. :D I also think Jenson calculated his move better, taking the run out of lesmo's into the straight...

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 02:22

Ah, once again I'm in the minority. Blocking isn't racing to me. 'Gentlemen racing'? Why, how old-fashioned of a driver to follow the rules or allow a superior car to pass. Or queer! :rolleyes: If that was exciting, then you must have loved Bernoldi holding up Coulthard for most of the Monaco race. Ex-citing!
If MS and LH were battling for every corner, THAT would have been exciting. Blocking - ugh! Brawn wouldn't have been on the radio if these were legal moves. I'm not much of a Ham fan. But MS makes him look like a choir boy! And, again, like Earnhart, it bothers me more because they both had tremendous talent, and tarnished their legacy with dirty racing.

And to those who say DRS has ruined F1 - we all have our beliefs. To me, it is a simple mechanism to overcome turbulence, and allow passing. If the passed car is truly superior, it will repass on the next lap. If you are not within a second, it doesn't affect the race. Artificial? Maybe, but it's far from the pointless Nascar-type passing. I'm loving it!

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 02:36

Ah, once again I'm in the minority. Blocking isn't racing to me. 'Gentlemen racing'? Why, how old-fashioned of a driver to follow the rules or allow a superior car to pass. Or queer! :rolleyes: If that was exciting, then you must have loved Bernoldi holding up Coulthard for most of the Monaco race. Ex-citing!
If MS and LH were battling for every corner, THAT would have been exciting. Blocking - ugh! Brawn wouldn't have been on the radio if these were legal moves. I'm not much of a Ham fan. But MS makes him look like a choir boy! And, again, like Earnhart, it bothers me more because they both had tremendous talent, and tarnished their legacy with dirty racing.

And to those who say DRS has ruined F1 - we all have our beliefs. To me, it is a simple mechanism to overcome turbulence, and allow passing. If the passed car is truly superior, it will repass on the next lap. If you are not within a second, it doesn't affect the race. Artificial? Maybe, but it's far from the pointless Nascar-type passing. I'm loving it!



I'd be interested to understand your view point on Senna then. This might not be the right topic for it, but for me, Senna was the ultimate squeezer/blocker, hence why I mentioned Lewis as a rather poor Senna fan in terms of his moaning and quotes regarding Schumacher's career, not to mention his radio transmission in Monaco.

E: Infact, Bernoldi's "blocking" of DC was probably moaned about by the same people who are moaning now, though I can't remember any blocking. It was Monaco. Not exactly Monza + DRS in terms of overtaking.

Edited by CSF, 13 September 2011 - 02:49.


#13295 MightyMoose

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 04:15

Mentions of Monaco got me thinking that perhaps MS saw & noted for future reference the "Hamilton Hand" that waved at him after the pass at St Devote, the almost dismissive sign of "Out of my way, how dare you even consider closing the door". We saw it again in Spa when LH began the ruck with Maldonado at La Source.

I just wonder if after Monaco MS just decided, "right you jumped up little ****er, next chance I get I'm going to make you work harder than you've ever had to work for a pass. If you don't have respect for me, then I'll show you."

Don't get me wrong, MS has always been a tough pass, but to my mind there was a little something extra in it on Sunday. And if so, it serves LH right, because he doesn't respect the other drivers & he does have a "superior" attitude.

Note: MS did little wrong in my mind and having seen the in-car footage, LH going for the gap that was inevitably closing at Curva Grande was just like Canada minus the spray and comical finish.

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 07:08

Hamilton got away with murder at Monaco this year, he was basically ramming through, especially on Maldenaldo, that wasn't overtaking, that was road rage.


Would that be the same Monaco where Schumacher rammed Hamilton at the start and broke off half his wing endplate?

The Stewards decided not to interfere with that one?!


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Posted 13 September 2011 - 07:25

Mentions of Monaco got me thinking that perhaps MS saw & noted for future reference the "Hamilton Hand" that waved at him after the pass at St Devote, the almost dismissive sign of "Out of my way, how dare you even consider closing the door". We saw it again in Spa when LH began the ruck with Maldonado at La Source.

I just wonder if after Monaco MS just decided, "right you jumped up little ****er, next chance I get I'm going to make you work harder than you've ever had to work for a pass. If you don't have respect for me, then I'll show you."

Don't get me wrong, MS has always been a tough pass, but to my mind there was a little something extra in it on Sunday. And if so, it serves LH right, because he doesn't respect the other drivers & he does have a "superior" attitude.

Note: MS did little wrong in my mind and having seen the in-car footage, LH going for the gap that was inevitably closing at Curva Grande was just like Canada minus the spray and comical finish.


Y'know, I think there may be some truth in this. Also agree that the 'gap' Lewis went for was closing. There was no way through there, short of Schumi getting out of his way; and why should he do that? I think that is particularly visible from JB's onboard camera.

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 07:27

I did want to add that, for me, this scrap will stand out even a few years down the road. Lewis & Michael, two damn good racers, going at it lap after lap, no quarter given nor taken. This is great stuff. :up:

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 07:30

I did want to add that, for me, this scrap will stand out even a few years down the road. Lewis & Michael, two damn good racers, going at it lap after lap, no quarter given nor taken. This is great stuff. :up:

I quite agree, it was a pleasure to watch. Both guys put their skills on show and showed what makes them great. More of this type of racing please. :)

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 07:40

I've always been highly supportive of the BBC coverage and their commentary team. However their credibility has taken a hit from this event as far as I am concerned.

I've kept my mouth shut until now because one doesn't always know how much of what is said on air comes from the actual person behind the microphone, or from the other person that he hears through that little earphone they all wear. But Brundle has overstepped the line in his blog, especially in the light of the continual conduct of his favorite driver over his entire career and especially this season. Hamilton hasn't been blocking and squeezing, he's been ramming. What Shumacher did was a work of art in defensive driving and should be appreciated for what it was.


Very well said. It was beautiful to watch. As someone else said, MS showed more spirit than the entire grid combined. People can say what they want, you don't win 7WDC by being a pussy and a pushover. MS did exactly what he had to do. On a track where the W02s weaknesses were less evident, Lewis got to know the real Schumacher. And he finally met up with someone that gave him exactly what he's been giving to the rest of the field.