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#13451 puxanando

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 16:06

Irvine says.......... that Schumacher is "an old man"! And Mercedes is making investments in a falling stock!

Edited by puxanando, 21 September 2011 - 16:06.


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#13452 Diablobb81

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 16:30

Such a wonderfull opinion.

It's not like he said the same thing 3-4 times already this year alone.


#13453 cheapracer

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 16:40

Irvine says..........


Eddies total points score for his entire F1 career (191) are actually within reach by Schumacher the way he is going now within his 3 year comeback period (currently 124) :lol:


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Posted 21 September 2011 - 16:44

Irvine says.......... that Schumacher is "an old man"! And Mercedes is making investments in a falling stock!

do you go out of your way to find these qoutes and articles you post?

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 16:44

Eddies total points score for his entire F1 career (191) are actually within reach by Schumacher the way he is going now within his 3 year comeback period (currently 124) :lol:

I'll get this in before one of the many trolls points (ha ha) it out.

The points values for finishes is markedly different now than it was during EI's time. However it's worth noting that EI is probably quite jealous that MS is still much, much richer, more talented and infinitely less of a dickhead than him.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 17:38

Interview with him in tomorrows Sportbild (print)

- he doesn´t feel as "fas"t and "perfect" anymore but good enough to compete in F1
- winning is not important, to feel that one did everything possible after the race is the satisfaction
- no chance for 2012 championship but wins "should be possible"
- 2012 will be more exciting as the gap to Red Bull will shrink (generally, he wasn´t asked why he believes that)
- they made enormous improvements at the beginning of the year but it was made too fast for the possibilities Mercedes had
- developments had to be reverted, the car was unable to cope with cartain things


Source?Sportbild? I thought it will be in autosport magazine...

#13457 EdwardCullen

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 17:56

Irvine says.......... that Schumacher is "an old man"! And Mercedes is making investments in a falling stock!

Why don't u go and troll in Alonso thread
Please stop coming here and delebritely posting old and negative things about Schumy which has sole purpose of flame baiting.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 18:16

Eddies total points score for his entire F1 career (191) are actually within reach by Schumacher the way he is going now within his 3 year comeback period (currently 124) :lol:


You mean now that points are 250% higher, are awarded down to tenth instead of sixth and there are 19 races per season compared to 16?

Cool, so I guess 3 years worth of points now would be equal to about 9-10 years worth in the 90's.

Irvines Career was 9 years.

Haven't really proved too much there, have we?






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Posted 21 September 2011 - 18:23

Anyone can have his opinion, even Irvine. His words are telling more about himself than Schumacher.

The next race is closing, can't wait to see how Michael does this time. For sure his form is improving, itt is a shame that the realistic target is only to beat Rosberg and the Renaults, but anyway he is always good for a surprise 5th or 6th place.

Michael, just keep this cool, precise and still desperate attitude... and keep building the team for the future. More results will come...


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Posted 22 September 2011 - 10:03

I'll get this in before one of the many trolls points (ha ha) it out.


I got some satisfaction out of believing I would get the same response out of Eddie as I would some of the other trolls around the place  ;) ;)

I see I got one bite already :lol:


#13461 cheapracer

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 12:06

This is from Atlas F1 so I think I can post it here as well? http://www.atlasf1.c...schumacher.html

It's from 1998 and interesting reading....

The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Driver

The expression on Michael Schumacher's face said it all. Regardless of whether he was right or wrong - the ice cold German was fuming. Schumacher, renowned for his low blood pressure, was already on the verge of explosion when he made his way to the pits in a tricycled Ferrari, after colliding with McLaren's David Coulthard, bringing an end to an almost certain victorious race. "Michael, calm down," was the repeating message from Ross Brawn on the radio, as he observed worriedly the German's personal telemetry showing a higher heartbeat rate than ever.

But Schumacher cannot calm down, not even after three days of a rest at his recently purchased estate in Switzerland. "I could have gone to Monza leading the World Championship by three points, three points!" he says, and it would be a safe bet to say, that Schumacher - who rarely looks back at his own actions - is still reliving the crucial seconds that might eventually cost him this year's title. It would be a safe bet, anyway, for anyone who watched Schumacher prepare in the last couple of weeks for the Belgian Grand Prix.

Hungary's Grand Prix win was a mere surprise, a bonus. The table overturn, in Schumacher's plan, was to happen at his favorite track, Spa Francorchamps. And everything that he did in the last few weeks, was directed at that race on Sunday. "In order to beat the McLarens," wrote Peter Windsor in the latest F1Racing magazine issue, "Michael had to take more risks than most drivers take in a decade." And indeed, Schumacher was never seen - on track and off track - as blindly dedicated to a mission as he was, leading to his eruption in the McLaren's pit garage on Sunday.

The writer Hans Borchert escorted Michael Schumacher in the last three weeks, following him everywhere he went. He spoke to his friends, watched him work-out, test at the Fiorano track, but most of all, watched him in his loneliness. For Schumacher, it seems, is - after all - very much a lonely man, secluded by his roaring ambitions to bring the legendary Italian team Ferrari its first World Championship in nearly two decades. He has the loneliness of a Long-distance Driver, writes Borchert.

There was something in the air during the days leading up to the Belgian Grand Prix in Spa-Francorchamps. Something unmentionable, which gives one the shudders. Racing driver Michael Schumacher, 29, is tempting fate with everything in his power. His commentaries, his driving style, his muscular, well-trained body, his facial features, his every glance betray that this man has just one thing on mind. Close friends have been worried for ages. For the first time in the career of the two-time World Champion they are anxious. "Anxious that Michael will take it too far," is how Jurgen Dilk, one of his early backers, puts it.

Recently he called him and entreated him: "Michael, remember 1994. Think of Ayrton Senna's end at Imola. You are in the same situation. You often overstep the limit."

"I know," replied Schumacher with unusually frank answer, "but I owe it to myself and my team."

"It's crazy the way he rubs his arse down", said one hard-bitten Ferrari worker during the Hungarian 77 laps race. "I admire Michael immensely for the way he handles the pressure," says Sauber driver Jean Alesi, one of the few real friends Schumacher has between the current drivers. "For me, as a racing driver, this is sensational. And the way he handles the extreme curves, how he finds the ideal course, is fantastic. Earlier his style tended to be mathematical, very calculated, like a machine. Now it is all so flowing and quite natural. Only one other has ever driven like this: Ayrton Senna, during his very best time."

But everything has its price. Even for Schumacher. Little by little, he is beginning to show his age. You can read on his face, on every TV monitor, the "I will" and "I must". But occasionally, when you are right up close, like recently on Ferrari's own racing course at Fiorano, the multimillion Dollar face says, "I am so tired."

In three days he ran exactly 1409.4 Kilometers of tests, a record distance for any Formula One driver. And yet, even at Ten at night, after he's been up for over 16 hours, Schumacher has a business meeting with two solicitors from London, their figures throwing long shadows in the light of the full moon as they await the driver to finish his day's course. Later, the three will go off and eat together, to discuss various financial and contract details. But as they await, it is the solicitors yawning rather than Michael. "How he does all this I cannot imagine. Even from just watching I am dead tired," mumbles a Mr Clark.

That is what the days and nights in Fiorano are like. Indeed, it is one of the most curious places on earth; three buildings stand there in the middle of a brown, sun-tanned landscape surrounded by a fence which is as tall as a human-being and is guarded day and night. The whole ensemble was once part of a farming complex, with stables, storage barn and living quarters. In fact, visitors are still greeted by a pottery figure of St Anthony, the patron saint of domestic animals. And right at the entrance there is the white marble bust of the Madonna. Anyone who wants to, can kneel there and cross himself ten times. Schumacher, hardly a religious figure, never does.

Enzo Ferrari made the farm his headquarters in 1972. He had the racing circuit built around it and, in keeping with the taste of the time, installed a filling station. To this day, Enzo Ferrari's office and his small conference room are still kept in the main building. Nothing has been changed, and it looks as if the old boy might slip in sometimes at night and sit right down at the heavy oak desk. Telephone and short-wave radio, even the magnifying-glass reading lamp are all in place, well-dusted and polished up to perfection.

But what would the Commendatore himself have thought of Schumacher? Ferrari elders say he would have admired his driving, but the two would not have befriended. "They would have nothing in common, except the love of racing," says an old guard at Fiorano. Well, Enzo Ferrari is reputed to have built cars in order to impress women, hardly the notion you'd get from watching Schumacher, the opposite of a playboy. Enzo supposedly enjoyed female company until late in his life, and in that very spot where several adventures are reported to have taken place, Michael Schumacher now spends the nights like a hermit.

He sleeps there in the most modest surroundings - a bed, a sofa, a chest of drawers and a sports-bag with very few clothes. The only human companionship he has is his physio-therapist Balbir Singh, sleeping next door. They share a toilet and a shower, but hardly share a conversation; Schumacher is seldom alone, but often very lonely.

But what seems to some so Spartan is actually considered by Schumacher himself a great privilege and absolute luxury. No Ferrari driver before him ever lived in this house and none ever shared what the Commendatore so treasured: the quietness and remoteness Fiorano has to offer. In the former shed where ploughs, harrows and barrows once stood, a complete physical fitness studio has been installed for Schumacher, and the lights are often on until after midnight. And at other times, you can see his shadowy figure jogging all alone along the asphalt track to the accompaniment of grasshoppers chirping. That is what he likes, that is all he can focus on. Anything else is a distraction.

"I do nothing but train and drive," says a very serene Schumacher, "and I have no time for playing around." Indeed, the test program now, shortly before the end of the season, is almost wider than at the beginning of the year. New brakes have to be tried out; shock-absorbers and suspensions have to be checked; new aerodynamic components tested for suitability; and racing situations are simulated.

Then Schumacher goes the whole distance, right to the limit. If any other Grand Prix driver has to endure the full distance once, maybe twice, every fortnight, Schumacher does it twice a week at least. And his Ferrari is looking as if it had been hit by a round of machine-gun fire. All over the carbon-fibre chassis there are gashes and holes, and the mechanics have all sort of things to screw on. Their mutual motto: put the lid on and take it off again. Schumacher's vehicle has had so many adjustments made to it, it is by now referred to as "the mobile building site".

On one of those long testing days, Schumacher was doing over 160 laps - quite a boring sight, really, watching the man punch in a lap after lap, with no Murray to shout at your ear or other drivers to add to the tension. On the small grandstand, in the shade of a plane tree, a few spectators look on wearily. Suddenly, his car slips off the track and ploughs across the adjoining gravel. Everyone wakes up instantly: the fire-service, the paramedics and, above all, the mechanics who are slacking around eating ice creams. They all dash over, but things are already under control - Schumacher disengages and reverses over the grass verge, back onto the track.

Someone says: "You sometimes forget that even here a mistake could cost him his life."

How does he endure it? "Practice," says Michael Schumacher and grins. He says he has for some time now been the equivalent of an experienced professional trucker because this year, with training, tests and races, he has chalked up 30,000 kilometres. At an average speed, remember, of well over 200 kph.

But that is not all. During training he packs his days full of other obligations, including several business meetings, press interviews, sponsorship luncheons and he even manages to fit in four takes for a new Fiat commercial between several test runs.

Michael Schumacher takes life at a breathless pace, always looking vital. But early in the morning, when he is sitting up in his room, he looks weak, his eyes bloodshot from the strain of the previous day. It seems as if he must gather up strength to get going again.

You ask him, "How much is too much?" and also: "How fast is too fast?"

His answer, always the same - "Wait and see."

#13462 merschu

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 12:29

Some Schumi news.

Schumacher brushes off Monza criticism

But Schumacher told Germany’s Sport Bild this week: “I use the rules up to the limit. As for the others complaining, I am used to it. As long as the officials say it’s ‘hard but okay’, then I have done everything right,” added the 42-year-old.

Schumacher acknowledged that he is not able to win races in the last six races of 2011, but he expects to add to his
“There should be wins but I don’t think we need to talk about the title in 2012,” he said. The fact he is only expecting a championship tilt to be possible for Mercedes after 2012 is ramping up speculation the great German intends to extend his contract.“We will sit to discuss the future next year; I don’t want to say any more than that,” said Schumacher.


http://www.yallaf1.c.....8YallaF1.com)


Schumacher says Ferrari drivers are ‘gods’

Schumacher, who won five world titles with the Maranello outfit, told Sport-Bild, “Ferrari is something special. If you are a Ferrari driver, you’re – ‘god’ – but a driver must also develop into a leader of the pack. Only when you achieve this will you be accepted by the Ferraristi.”

“Which team can claim to have a whole country behind them as a national team?” queried Schumacher who raced for Ferrari from 1996 to 2006 and was by far the team’s (and the sport’s) most successful F1 driver of all time.
Schumacher returned to Formula 1, after three years ‘retirement’, with Mercedes GP in 2010.


http://www.yallaf1.c...ivers-are-gods/



Schumi also visited the Paragon shopping centre yesterday in Singapore. Video:

Some pictures of that which I found on twitter & other sites.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 12:30

Clinical and Cynical may be confusing to you but I have no problem differentiating them.

Oh no sorry, it's that clinical is never used in the manner in which you've applied it though I don't know "Far Eastern English". I apologise if you've taken offence

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 12:31

This is from Atlas F1 so I think I can post it here as well? http://www.atlasf1.c...schumacher.html

It's from 1998 and interesting reading....

The Loneliness of a Long-Distance Driver

The expression on Michael Schumacher's face said it all. Regardless of whether he was right or wrong - the ice cold German was fuming. Schumacher, renowned for his low blood pressure, was already on the verge of explosion when he made his way to the pits in a tricycled Ferrari, after colliding with McLaren's David Coulthard, bringing an end to an almost certain victorious race. "Michael, calm down," was the repeating message from Ross Brawn on the radio, as he observed worriedly the German's personal telemetry showing a higher heartbeat rate than ever...............



A great article cheapracer. Really enjoyed reading it! :)

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 12:56

Thanks for posting that article, long time since I've read it. :up:

I always have to laugh and think of articles like this when I see numpties dismissing Michael's vast influence in/on the Ferrari team that was so successful.



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Posted 22 September 2011 - 12:58

A great article cheapracer. Really enjoyed reading it! :)

I second it.
And, in retrospect, I am sad that the way motor sport journalism and fans' attitude has changed and went IMHO into wrong direction. From seeking the positive, the effort and passion which stand behind glory and success to gradually shifting the accent on negativism, scandal and controversy. Always suspecting unfair game, always looking for penalties, always putting the shadow of doubt over every success.
Oh, but that's another story ...

#13467 BRK

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 13:11

Oh no sorry, it's that clinical is never used in the manner in which you've applied it though I don't know "Far Eastern English". I apologise if you've taken offence


I think he's Australian and would probably take offence if you called him Chinese, or anything other than Australian. :p


Great article and fantastic pics, thanks for sharing them cheapracer and merschu. Malls are always packed in SE Asia when Michael hits the floor, I know he's got a huge fan following over there as well.

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"It's crazy the way he rubs his arse down", said one hard-bitten Ferrari worker during the Hungarian 77 laps race. "I admire Michael immensely for the way he handles the pressure," says Sauber driver Jean Alesi, one of the few real friends Schumacher has between the current drivers. "For me, as a racing driver, this is sensational. And the way he handles the extreme curves, how he finds the ideal course, is fantastic. Earlier his style tended to be mathematical, very calculated, like a machine. Now it is all so flowing and quite natural. Only one other has ever driven like this: Ayrton Senna, during his very best time.

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Amen to that.

Edited by BRK, 22 September 2011 - 13:13.


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Posted 22 September 2011 - 13:31

I got some satisfaction out of believing I would get the same response out of Eddie as I would some of the other trolls around the place ;);)

I see I got one bite already :lol:



Always happy to correct idiocy :wave:

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 13:42

Always happy to correct idiocy :wave:


Well you're an expert on the subject so I have to accept that.


Oh no sorry, it's that clinical is never used in the manner in which you've applied it though I don't know "Far Eastern English". I apologise if you've taken offence


No ploblem, I rike you ok.


#13470 zelpre

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 15:13

If anyone wants to read article about Michael in the latest autosport magazine, it's here: Autosport Magazine 22 Sep

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 18:30

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 18:36

Let's pass the hat and buy them some neckties!


#13473 arknor

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 18:48

nico looks so much like norbert :p iys almost like its his future self having aged and put on weight

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 19:00

Let's pass the hat and buy them some neckties!

:lol:
:up:

Poor Michael, look at his face, he is really old. :|

Edited by Kubiccia, 22 September 2011 - 19:04.


#13475 puxanando

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 20:25

Poor Michael, look at his face, he is really old. :|

:clap: "Oldie" but "Goldie"...........

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 07:27

:clap: "Oldie" but "Goldie"...........

alonso still has a long face like a horse :rotfl:

remember when he first joined f1 and he looked like a KKK member :lol:

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 07:33

Poor Michael, look at his face, he is really old. :|


I have seen on airports a lot of twenty-year olds who look much more shit after a jet lag of six hours. Actually, I believe he looks overpar for a 42-year old.

#13478 cheapracer

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 07:33

Let's pass the hat and buy them some neckties!


Lets pass the hat and buy Nico some McDonalds, geez he needs a feed, MS must be giving away 10 kgs to him?

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 13:15

Again, Stewart cannot help but say stuff about Michael, he says he deserve 20-25 second penalty minimum for Monza, i dont know why all these people still continue on about it, it was fair racing, no doubt, tough fight but it was great to see. Its fantastic to see Michael have the chance to operate with all his strengths again

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 13:44

alonso still has a long face like a horse :rotfl:

remember when he first joined f1 and he looked like a KKK member :lol:


Don't forget the fat neck !

#13481 schubacca

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 13:46

Ah yes Stewart....

Every couple of years he says the same things about MS.


yadda yadda yadda, he spins out too much....... yadda yadda yadda..... He is unsporting...... yadda yadda yadda.....

#13482 Hacklerf

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 13:50

In the Senna movie, Ayrton gives Stewart a dressing down, the man needs to get back to promoting failed banks, not talking about F1

#13483 Hacklerf

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 13:50

In the Senna movie, Ayrton gives Stewart a dressing down, the man needs to get back to promoting failed banks, not talking about F1

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 13:52

In the Senna movie, Ayrton gives Stewart a dressing down, the man needs to get back to promoting failed banks, not talking about F1


That was a classic, AS taking exception to the loaded questions that SIR Jackie was asking him....



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Posted 23 September 2011 - 14:11

In the Senna movie, Ayrton gives Stewart a dressing down, the man needs to get back to promoting failed banks, not talking about F1

:clap:

Well, the man who "goes round dressed up as a 1930s music hall man" can, of course, talk about F1 as much as he likes. I just wish, given his racing achievements and experience he spoke with a bit more balance. You KNOW if he's talking about Schumi it's to slag him off. Glad to see Sébastien Buemi and Sebastian Vettel talking in rather more reasonable terms about Monza at the Singapore press conference.

#13486 cheapracer

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 14:30

:clap:

Well, the man who "goes round dressed up as a 1930s music hall man" can,


I laffed! :lol: :lol:

The picture is almost complete, all we need now is Moss The Mouth to complete the package :lol:


#13487 schubacca

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 15:06

I laffed! :lol: :lol:

The picture is almost complete, all we need now is Moss The Mouth to complete the package :lol:



Hahahahaha :)

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 15:36

Ah yes Stewart....

Every couple of years he says the same things about MS.


yadda yadda yadda, he spins out too much....... yadda yadda yadda..... He is unsporting...... yadda yadda yadda.....



blablablabla Lewis blablablablablabla hamilton could have won blablablabladiblablablabbalalabnblabalabalbna hamilton the best blablblablablabldibla

The sad part is Stewart gets so predictable. You just knew this was gonna come instead of a good praise on Michael. ANd the nonsense psychological assesment on Schumacher on his retirement in 2006: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :rotfl:

Heres to a championship number 8, with 9 more wins and several more poles next season :up:

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 15:46

For those who haven't seen it yet

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

I like the common way of thinking between the two.

#13490 arknor

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 15:52

You could say that Lewis Hamilton lost all chances of winning the race by that, and I think that's wrong.


how come everyone who thinks schumacher was out of order at monza comes out with that BS? they are suposed to be the best drivers in the world , just because you hqave the fastest car doesnt mean you deserve to finish where the car is capable..

youve got to put the car where it belongs... not the car putting the driver where the car should be.

#13491 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 15:52

Michael's point is great

#13492 EdwardCullen

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 16:22

For those who haven't seen it yet

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

I like the common way of thinking between the two.

:up:
The only true sucessor of Senna is Schumy
rest of the current drivers are just trying to get more fans on their side, when saying cr@ps like "Senna is my idol blah blah yadyadada"

Btw: Schumy seems to be in great from at Singapore today
hoping for great result like last two :clap:

Edited by EdwardCullen, 23 September 2011 - 16:23.


#13493 spacekid

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 16:39

Following the rather nasty taste in the mouth left by Sir Stewarts rather unnecesary bashing, here is a nice interview with Murray Walker from 1996.

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

Says everything you need to know about who Michael Schumacher really is - and much respect to Walker!

Looking forward to a good Singapore, not Michaels strongest circuit type but not bad in FP2 today so hoping for a good top 10 finish!

#13494 Boing 2

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 16:41

For those who haven't seen it yet

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

I like the common way of thinking between the two.


I don't see either driver really answer the question. Senna gets a bit huffy then waffles without answering the question, Schumacher attempts an answer then immediatelty contradicts himself.

Either way, good to hear Stewart and Brundle having the balls to confront these guys with issues that most journos avoid.

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 16:50

Following the rather nasty taste in the mouth left by Sir Stewarts rather unnecesary bashing,


Because really, there's nothing to critisise about a driver who does this?

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You know, it's possible to like a driver and not defend every single thing they've ever done. You can like him and simply admit he cocked things up occasionally and people have a right to point that out.


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Posted 23 September 2011 - 17:47

Because really, there's nothing to critisise about a driver who does this?

You know, it's possible to like a driver and not defend every single thing they've ever done. You can like him and simply admit he cocked things up occasionally and people have a right to point that out.


I'm sorry, I don't understand the point you are trying to make?

What does incidents that happened over 20 years ago with Senna have to do with the fact I think Jackie was ott with his comments about Schumi's defending at Monza? I disagree Schumi cost Lewis the race and deserved a 20-25 second penalty, and I also don't see the need to still be going on about it.

Anyway, yes Jackie has a right to his point of view. I don't defend everything Michael has ever done, I think he has made mistakes of judgement, but don't count his driving at Monza amongst them. Quite the opposite actually, I enjoyed the racing between him and Hamilton there very much.

Really all I wanted to do was point out a nice piece that Murray Walker did saying Schumi is a 'top bloke'.

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 17:56

Fair enough, my mistake. I thought you were replying about Stewarts comments to Senna in the link Walkinkid posted.

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 18:11

Because really, there's nothing to critisise about a driver who does this?

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You know, it's possible to like a driver and not defend every single thing they've ever done. You can like him and simply admit he cocked things up occasionally and people have a right to point that out.


Agreed.

I like AS and MS. The problem is that we often come across individuals who unconditionally praise Senna, while unconditionally vilifying Schumacher. Both are some of the greatest drivers. But, they both made errors.

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 18:18

I disagree Schumi cost Lewis the race and deserved a 20-25 second penalty, and I also don't see the need to still be going on about it.


he didnt cost nayone the race hamilton couldnt pass end off...

if he cant put a car where it belongs tough crap the sport isnt about moving over and letting the faster car pass

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Posted 23 September 2011 - 18:34

Schumacher's defending in Monza was masterclass, it's said motorsport went into another direction

From 1950 to late 90s, F1 was one thing, nowadays it's just a pop show very few related to real racing :|