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#13501 as65p

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 10:15

Because really, there's nothing to critisise about a driver who does this?

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Nice pic to judge the amount of space both between Prost and the wall as well as between the two cars. :up:

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#13502 kar

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 10:51

What is up with Michael lately?

He seems to have a bit of fire in the old belly at last. I must say, the most enjoyable thing about the rather prosaic Italian GP was seeing 'old' (as in the Michael OF old) back :)

#13503 zelpre

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 11:47

This is horrible. 3 seconds off the pace on softs. Michael on super soft 0.7 off the pace compared to Vettel on softs



#13504 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 12:03

he is also slower than Rosberg..0.006 slower

#13505 Tarzaan

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 12:04

I read about some KERS problems. It is not a good sign before the qualy...

#13506 zelpre

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 12:08

Yep KERS problem at the end of FP3. I think it's just a problem with discharging the battery.

Edited by zelpre, 24 September 2011 - 12:11.


#13507 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 12:10

I read about some KERS problems. It is not a good sign before the qualy...

better "before" than "during"

#13508 zelpre

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 12:12

I see this step in right direction, yep. This is even worse than Monaco, really...

#13509 Massa

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 12:17

Yes, but Mercedes are one second faster than those behind them, so it will be a very long race for both driver, the fight between them will be good to watch

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 12:28

he is also slower than Rosberg..0.006 slower

Nico did his lap when the track had a bit more rubber, this gap is so small that even 5 minutes of diference can make someone faster

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 12:32

He must qualify at least right behind NR here, that´s for sure. Hope we see a nice race between the two.

#13512 ali.unal

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 12:38

Michael started to close in on Rosberg on qualy pace or what?

#13513 zelpre

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 12:49

hmm what was with Massa? Is he reachable?

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 14:22

those were looong 2 minutes :)))

#13515 GoRacing

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 14:26

Michael started to close in on Rosberg on qualy pace or what?


Definitely not on the softs, hopefully on SS he's closer.

Edit: He definitely surprised me! Can he do it again in Q3?

Edited by GoRacing, 24 September 2011 - 14:51.


#13516 Tarzaan

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 14:51

MS on Q3. Good job. IMHO he should stay the pit and save the Pirellis for the race.

#13517 Spa95

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 14:55

He gained 1.8 seconds from this morning (where he was already going well). :clap:

#13518 Diablobb81

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 14:56

Hopefully a clean lap in Q3. He looked good all weekend.

#13519 Lelouch

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:07

8th without setting a time looks good for tomorrow :p

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#13520 Tarzaan

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:09

Good decession IMHO.

#13521 Urawa

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:09

wtf?

sensational timing again?

#13522 dav115

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:10

I lost my TV signal at the end of Q3 so didn't see what happened. How did MSC get 8th ahead of (presumably) the two FI cars if he didn't set a time?

#13523 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:11

I lost my TV signal at the end of Q3 so didn't see what happened. How did MSC get 8th ahead of (presumably) the two FI cars if he didn't set a time?

he set a time throught the pitlane

#13524 Diablobb81

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:11

Good decision to not try. Shitty Q3 rules.

#13525 Scotracer

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:13

1 place behind his team-mate and a brand-new set of tyres? Nice one.

Michael has had the pace of Nico all weekend too (compare Q2 times).

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:14

P7 (I think he had a good chance to beat NR) and better side vs. 8th and one new set more.
If his start is good the decision was ok, if not...

Edited by Urawa, 24 September 2011 - 15:14.


#13527 dav115

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:15

he set a time throught the pitlane

Aah, lovely.

#13528 Lelouch

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:16

They both have a fair chance to be in front of Massa after lap 1 and hopefully MS can get Rosberg too

#13529 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:19

1 place behind his team-mate and a brand-new set of tyres? Nice one.

Michael has had the pace of Nico all weekend too (compare Q2 times).

he's got the dirty side but this move shows that beating nico isn't really what he looks for. it's not the most important thing for him

#13530 Tarzaan

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:23

What if MS start with the harder(soft) Pirelli?

#13531 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:24

i haven't seen what tyres he was on. they didn't show him

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:25

Looking at Q1 and the difference between MSC and ROS, there was never going to be any point in sending Michael out in Q3. Good decision, tyres saved for the race. A good start should see them have a quiet race to 7th and 8th, safety cars permitting.

#13533 salamin

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:25

What if MS start with the harder(soft) Pirelli?


I really hope not, just look at Rosberg's start from Monza

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:26

Super-softs, shown in Parc ferme.

#13535 BiH

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:33

i haven't seen what tyres he was on. they didn't show him


it was super soft

his car was already parked when quali was over

Edited by BiH, 24 September 2011 - 15:34.


#13536 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:33

Looking at Q1 and the difference between MSC and ROS, there was never going to be any point in sending Michael out in Q3. Good decision, tyres saved for the race. A good start should see them have a quiet race to 7th and 8th, safety cars permitting.

huh?
how about looking at q2 when they were both on SSofts?


#13537 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:35

he is 0.2 slower over a lap than massa and has 2 new super softs.
6 is achievable

#13538 zelpre

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:36

1:46.043 for Michael in Q2. 1:46.013 for Nico in Q3.
Michael had a chance today to beat him. Now he starts on the dirty side, I don't know, I don't think he'll make a good start, the straight line is a bit to short i think...

#13539 Schumacher7

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:38

he set a time throught the pitlane

No I'm pretty sure that's not it, as they all didn't set a time it goes on their Q2 times for those three drivers I believe and as he was faster in Q2 he starts 8th ahead of them.
Also as he didn't set a time I believe that also gives him freedom of tire choice i.e. not limited to those he was in parc ferme on as he aborted his lap.

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#13540 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:38

but he has a better set of tyres in the first stint. This should allow him to go 2 laps longer than nico in case he can't get a better start

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:39

i haven't seen what tyres he was on. they didn't show him

Does not matter as he didn't set a time. He can choose what tyres to start on.

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Edited by sharo, 24 September 2011 - 15:42.


#13542 Schumacher7

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:39

Does not mattar as he didn't set a time. He can choose what tyres to start on.

Yeah that's what I thought.

#13543 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:42

if the super softs are really that bad on the first stint (last 10 laps) he can gamble on a short first stint on the harder tyre then pit and and have 2 brand new sets of super softs waiting

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:42

1:46.043 for Michael in Q2. 1:46.013 for Nico in Q3.
Michael had a chance today to beat him. Now he starts on the dirty side, I don't know, I don't think he'll make a good start, the straight line is a bit to short i think...


he was P8 in Monza as well, making up 4 places to exit turn 1 in P4
OTOH the main straight is really short here, so gaining 1 or 2 positions after the 1st corner would be great !

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:45

he was P8 in Monza as well, making up 4 places to exit turn 1 in P4
OTOH the main straight is really short here, so gaining 1 or 2 positions after the 1st corner would be great !

Schumy was p7 at monza

#13546 salamin

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:48

Schumy was p7 at monza


wasn't it P8 for MS and P9 for NR ?

#13547 zelpre

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:49

Didn't Michael went out of the pits? And then just went back in? Where you got info that michael didn't go out?


he was P8 in Monza as well, making up 4 places to exit turn 1 in P4
OTOH the main straight is really short here, so gaining 1 or 2 positions after the 1st corner would be great !


That would be pretty hard as the first corner isn't that slow, it's not much of heavy breaking there which would allow to gain places

#13548 salamin

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:52

That would be pretty hard as the first corner isn't that slow, it's not much of heavy breaking there which would allow to gain places


Agree, but with a great start + problems of others it's possible

#13549 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:55

Agree, but with a great start + problems of others it's possible

webber is too much in front to help out :D

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 16:59

I think MS made a mistake in not running. He could have qualified ahead of Nico and maybe even Massa. Track position is crucial here and he cannot make up too many places from the dirty side of the grid as the run down to first corner is not too far. Now he has two new sets of SS right? So maybe start on softs?

Edited by GoRacing, 24 September 2011 - 16:59.