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#13551 Tarzaan

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:23

What if MS start with the harder(soft) Pirelli?

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#13552 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:24

i haven't seen what tyres he was on. they didn't show him

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:25

Looking at Q1 and the difference between MSC and ROS, there was never going to be any point in sending Michael out in Q3. Good decision, tyres saved for the race. A good start should see them have a quiet race to 7th and 8th, safety cars permitting.

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:25

What if MS start with the harder(soft) Pirelli?


I really hope not, just look at Rosberg's start from Monza

#13555 DutchCruijff

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:26

Super-softs, shown in Parc ferme.

#13556 BiH

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:33

i haven't seen what tyres he was on. they didn't show him


it was super soft

his car was already parked when quali was over

Edited by BiH, 24 September 2011 - 15:34.


#13557 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:33

Looking at Q1 and the difference between MSC and ROS, there was never going to be any point in sending Michael out in Q3. Good decision, tyres saved for the race. A good start should see them have a quiet race to 7th and 8th, safety cars permitting.

huh?
how about looking at q2 when they were both on SSofts?


#13558 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:35

he is 0.2 slower over a lap than massa and has 2 new super softs.
6 is achievable

#13559 zelpre

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:36

1:46.043 for Michael in Q2. 1:46.013 for Nico in Q3.
Michael had a chance today to beat him. Now he starts on the dirty side, I don't know, I don't think he'll make a good start, the straight line is a bit to short i think...

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#13560 Schumacher7

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:38

he set a time throught the pitlane

No I'm pretty sure that's not it, as they all didn't set a time it goes on their Q2 times for those three drivers I believe and as he was faster in Q2 he starts 8th ahead of them.
Also as he didn't set a time I believe that also gives him freedom of tire choice i.e. not limited to those he was in parc ferme on as he aborted his lap.

#13561 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:38

but he has a better set of tyres in the first stint. This should allow him to go 2 laps longer than nico in case he can't get a better start

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:39

i haven't seen what tyres he was on. they didn't show him

Does not matter as he didn't set a time. He can choose what tyres to start on.

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Edited by sharo, 24 September 2011 - 15:42.


#13563 Schumacher7

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:39

Does not mattar as he didn't set a time. He can choose what tyres to start on.

Yeah that's what I thought.

#13564 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:42

if the super softs are really that bad on the first stint (last 10 laps) he can gamble on a short first stint on the harder tyre then pit and and have 2 brand new sets of super softs waiting

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:42

1:46.043 for Michael in Q2. 1:46.013 for Nico in Q3.
Michael had a chance today to beat him. Now he starts on the dirty side, I don't know, I don't think he'll make a good start, the straight line is a bit to short i think...


he was P8 in Monza as well, making up 4 places to exit turn 1 in P4
OTOH the main straight is really short here, so gaining 1 or 2 positions after the 1st corner would be great !

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:45

he was P8 in Monza as well, making up 4 places to exit turn 1 in P4
OTOH the main straight is really short here, so gaining 1 or 2 positions after the 1st corner would be great !

Schumy was p7 at monza

#13567 salamin

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:48

Schumy was p7 at monza


wasn't it P8 for MS and P9 for NR ?

#13568 zelpre

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:49

Didn't Michael went out of the pits? And then just went back in? Where you got info that michael didn't go out?


he was P8 in Monza as well, making up 4 places to exit turn 1 in P4
OTOH the main straight is really short here, so gaining 1 or 2 positions after the 1st corner would be great !


That would be pretty hard as the first corner isn't that slow, it's not much of heavy breaking there which would allow to gain places

#13569 salamin

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:52

That would be pretty hard as the first corner isn't that slow, it's not much of heavy breaking there which would allow to gain places


Agree, but with a great start + problems of others it's possible

#13570 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 15:55

Agree, but with a great start + problems of others it's possible

webber is too much in front to help out :D

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 16:59

I think MS made a mistake in not running. He could have qualified ahead of Nico and maybe even Massa. Track position is crucial here and he cannot make up too many places from the dirty side of the grid as the run down to first corner is not too far. Now he has two new sets of SS right? So maybe start on softs?

Edited by GoRacing, 24 September 2011 - 16:59.


#13572 sharo

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 17:02

They may be counting on a SC scenario and more fresh rubber.

#13573 EdwardCullen

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 17:27

wasn't it P8 for MS and P9 for NR ?

my mistake :blush:

#13574 GoRacing

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 17:45

Can anyone let me know if MS has two sets of new SS left and Nico just one? Everywhere I read, it says one set for both.

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 17:51

He should have one more set than Nico.

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 17:58

http://www.motorspor...t_11092413.html
MS - Two sets of 'fresh' super softs. One was not used and the other one was used on his outlap before the red flag and again on his outlap in Q3, so that set is almost fresh.

Edited by Spa95, 24 September 2011 - 17:59.


#13577 GoRacing

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 18:02

http://www.motorspor...t_11092413.html
MS - Two sets of 'fresh' super softs. One was not used and the other one was used on his outlap before the red flag and again on his outlap in Q3, so that set is almost fresh.


Thanks!

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 18:20

Schumacher waving his hand during FP3 when Maldonado blocked his fast lap!




Schumacher's BBC interview with David Coulthard today.



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Posted 24 September 2011 - 18:45

I think not setting a time is a good move. They will wait for tomorrow to see the weather forecast. If rain is expected, he will start on supersoft. If forecast is for dry conditions, he will start on the harder tyre (the soft) as safety car is highly possible.

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#13580 walkindude

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 19:53

Schumacher waving his hand during FP3 when Maldonado blocked his fast lap!




Schumacher's BBC interview with David Coulthard today.


:up: :up: :up: That part about him being at the circuit longer than any other driver.The same was mentioned at a previous race too..Gotta love his commitment.

#13581 EdwardCullen

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 20:13

:up: :up: :up: That part about him being at the circuit longer than any other driver.The same was mentioned at a previous race too..Gotta love his commitment.

:up: :up: 5 in the morning :eek:

#13582 Augurk

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 20:20

Schumacher waving his hand during FP3 when Maldonado blocked his fast lap!




Schumacher's BBC interview with David Coulthard today.

New team around him, it seems to be working. Lets hope for a good race.

No use wasting a set of options for a possible 1 place gain on the grid, that he has a good chance of making good at the start anyway.

#13583 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 20:27

:up: :up: :up: That part about him being at the circuit longer than any other driver.The same was mentioned at a previous race too..Gotta love his commitment.


Schumacher knows what it takes. At the top of page 338 on this thread there is an article from 1998 make reference to such commitment, from jogging on the Fiorano circuit at midnight on his own to late night meetings etc.

I also once read of Schumacher picking up pizzas late at night in his Ferrari 456 GT for him and his engineers to prove his commitment to the team.

If he was the default no.1 driver it is because he worked his bollocks off. Aside from Prost and Senna, nobody has ever been as commited as Schumacher. Its so sad that people have forgotten this and just point to 1994 and 1997 finales. To be in F1 for 20 years and at the top of your game is seriously impressive.

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 20:39

He's certainly impressing me now; the old man is starting to give Rosberg a seriously hard time.

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 01:18

He's certainly impressing me now; the old man is starting to give Rosberg a seriously hard time.

These kind of statements 1 year / 6 months ago had no merit but it has changed and I believe NR is increasely feeling pressure from MS on the track but also from MS commitment within the team.

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 09:38

Rain animation in Singapore
http://app2.nea.gov...._animation.aspx

Anyone knows where Marina Bay circuit lies?

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 11:32

Rain animation in Singapore
http://app2.nea.gov...._animation.aspx

Anyone knows where Marina Bay circuit lies?


In Marina Bay.

http://en.wikipedia...._Bay,_Singapore



#13588 zelpre

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 11:38

In Marina Bay.

http://en.wikipedia...._Bay,_Singapore


Lol i was trying to find rain animation for Marina Bay, but there's just animation for Singapore and I don't know where in Singapore Marina Bay lies.

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 11:39

http://maps.google.c...ved=0CGoQ8gEwAw

#13590 spacekid

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 12:25

Oh dear. Schumi's come out behind a huge gaggle of cars 5 places behind Nico. Its all over this afternoon already for Michael ):

Edit - could be worse, at least he avoided Hamilton

Edited by spacekid, 25 September 2011 - 12:29.


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Posted 25 September 2011 - 12:28

Yes, the tires suddenly gave away. He lost a shitload of time in 2 laps.

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 12:33

MGP are a bunch of idiots. They should've started him on softs. Looks where Di Resta is now

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#13593 Spa95

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 12:35

He's going very well now...shame about the lost 10 seconds.

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 12:37

Sigh. On the BBC Martin Brundle just said Lewis Hamilton fans will be asking why has Lewis been penalised when Michael got away with what he got away with at Monza.

Let it go BBC chaps, let it go...

Nice overtake from Schumi, but he's lost 10 seconds to Nico. He's in big trouble with the Findias now. Bah.

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 12:42

Bad pit call. pace is good atm

#13596 Lelouch

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 12:43

His pace looks good now, at least compared to Ros

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 12:44

I wonder if Sir Jackie Stewart will complain that Kobayashi held Schumacher up and how it isn't fair.... oh wait... thought not! :p

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 12:45

His pace looks good now, at least compared to Ros


Agreed, its looking very good, he's taken 6 seconds out of Nico in about 3 laps! I wonder if Nico lost a bit of speed when he lost those bits of underfloor on the turn 10 kerbing?

Anyway, nice pace from Michael now :up: Such a shame he got dumped into all that traffic on lap 11.

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 12:46

So he started on used options? looks like it. But pitstop was two laps too late.

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 12:50

Omg his tyres died and he is still out there, 1:57:083 wtf are they doing?