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#13901 umapathypon

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 06:00

As a long time Schumacher fan, I have been happiest with the last few races since his comeback.
Yes, he crashed in Singapore. However, I would rather take what Michael had shown in the race rather than the result NR got in Singapore.
Schumacher was seriously fast.

Thats pretty much it.

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#13902 Tarzaan

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 10:23

Also Costa & Geoffrey Willis to Merc. It's official :)

Edited by Tarzaan, 30 September 2011 - 10:23.


#13903 BRK

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 12:58

As a long time Schumacher fan, I have been happiest with the last few races since his comeback.
Yes, he crashed in Singapore. However, I would rather take what Michael had shown in the race rather than the result NR got in Singapore.
Schumacher was seriously fast.

Thats pretty much it.


Plus the pace has been there all season long, only for frustrating accidents and problems to spoil weekend after weekend.

Hope he has a clean race at Suzuka!

#13904 holiday

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 13:13

Schumacher was seriously fast.


But too hectic.


#13905 Igorr

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 14:16

"All the guys who have the skill have the championships, and the guys who have the most skill have seven of them" - Jock Clear on the FOTA fans forum haha nice one

#13906 EdwardCullen

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 14:23

"All the guys who have the skill have the championships, and the guys who have the most skill have seven of them" - Jock Clear on the FOTA fans forum haha nice one

fantastic :up:

#13907 Group B

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 14:58

"All the guys who have the skill have the championships, and the guys who have the most skill have seven of them" - Jock Clear on the FOTA fans forum haha nice one

That's rather cool :D :up:

#13908 Wi000

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 15:03

"All the guys who have the skill have the championships, and the guys who have the most skill have seven of them" - Jock Clear on the FOTA fans forum haha nice one

awesome :up:

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 15:18

"All the guys who have the skill have the championships, and the guys who have the most skill have seven of them" - Jock Clear on the FOTA fans forum haha nice one


Source?

#13910 Igorr

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 15:23

http://www.jamesalle...com/fans-forum/

here you have some interesting videos from the FOTA forum, and the quote is taken from "chapter 6:driver skills" at around 4:10 mark.

#13911 holiday

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 15:27

"All the guys who have the skill have the championships, and the guys who have the most skill have seven of them" - Jock Clear on the FOTA fans forum haha nice one


I remember Clear being rather anti-MS, but that may simply stem from the fact that he became first visible as Jacques's engineer when the latter was still a force.


#13912 Jordana

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 15:34

"All the guys who have the skill have the championships, and the guys who have the most skill have seven of them" - Jock Clear on the FOTA fans forum haha nice one



:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

#13913 EdwardCullen

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 15:40

I remember Clear being rather anti-MS, but that may simply stem from the fact that he became first visible as Jacques's engineer when the latter was still a force.

To be fair to Jock....he was furious about MS hitting JV at Jerez 97
and he might have said something as he was JV's engineer....which is understandable.

Edited by EdwardCullen, 30 September 2011 - 15:47.


#13914 Igorr

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 16:02

I'm pretty sure that if there is any conflict between them, Michael would have got a new engineer long time ago.


#13915 umapathypon

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 16:44

But too hectic.

True. However - has he ever been any other way?

#13916 spacekid

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 10:41

lol, a couple of weeks when Jock was announced as working with Michael at Spa there was mock outrage that he had sabotaged the car, a few kindly words and now we all love him :p

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 10:46

lol, a couple of weeks when Jock was announced as working with Michael at Spa there was mock outrage that he had sabotaged the car, a few kindly words and now we all love him :p

I imagine that JC has spent enough time with with MS to start appreciating the flawed genius. Could be a strong and useful partnership.

#13918 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 18:04

lol, a couple of weeks when Jock was announced as working with Michael at Spa there was mock outrage that he had sabotaged the car, a few kindly words and now we all love him :p

maybe because things have improved in MS's performance and it looks like these guys are working well together.

#13919 pUs

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 19:01

I imagine that JC has spent enough time with with MS to start appreciating the flawed genius. Could be a strong and useful partnership.


I think so too. Wouldn't be surprised to see him stay as race engineer for Michael.

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#13920 baddog

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 22:05

lol, a couple of weeks when Jock was announced as working with Michael at Spa there was mock outrage that he had sabotaged the car, a few kindly words and now we all love him :p

Well, I'm delighted to boast that while I made a joke about jock sabotaging the car, I also said not jokingly that if Ross could get these two working together he would have pulled off a coup (and deserve a Nobel peace prize). Jock for all his abrasive nature is a damned good engineer, and Michael is Michael. It seems to be working out

#13921 BRK

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:06

Loved that comment of his, but the FOTA fan forum video is from July last year, so I'm guessing he's either even more supportive of Schumacher today or the opposite, considering MS has had a much better season this year and is quicker than Rosberg.

#13922 Wade

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 07:30

Random thought......



That's his last podium. Like 5 years ago. It's about time you go back up there again, Schu. A podium before this season ends would be very nice.

Good luck in Suzuka!

#13923 Augurk

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 09:53

It was a bad move to have Clear working in a team environment where his first rival is MSC. Yet he's a brilliant engineer so there's an obvious solution and that's let him work with Michael. I'm 100% sure this has taken away any bad feelings between them. They are probably mutually impressed by their work and so far are a great pairing.

#13924 Clatter

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 02:09

It was a bad move to have Clear working in a team environment where his first rival is MSC. Yet he's a brilliant engineer so there's an obvious solution and that's let him work with Michael. I'm 100% sure this has taken away any bad feelings between them. They are probably mutually impressed by their work and so far are a great pairing.


Only if you believe JC is totally unprofessional and that it hadn't all been discussed and agreed by all parties.

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 02:40

Only if you believe JC is totally unprofessional and that it hadn't all been discussed and agreed by all parties.


Unfortunately being professional is perhaps not enough in F1. Is he hungry enough for win with Scumacher is next step in evalution of his fitness to be part of the team.

#13926 Clatter

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 07:26

Unfortunately being professional is perhaps not enough in F1. Is he hungry enough for win with Scumacher is next step in evalution of his fitness to be part of the team.


Again, do you not for one minute think that everyone involved has not fully discussed things? He has not just fallen into the position by accident.

#13927 ali.unal

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 08:03

Random thought......



That's his last podium. Like 5 years ago. It's about time you go back up there again, Schu. A podium before this season ends would be very nice.

Good luck in Suzuka!

Stupid director missed his last jump on an F1 podium. What an a**hole.

#13928 GoRacing

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 12:39

I was hoping for some rain at Suzuka to mix things up which would give MS even more of a chance to get a good result, but it's going to be completely dry all 3 days! Guess 5th is the best we could hope.

#13929 cheapracer

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 14:33

I was hoping for some rain at Suzuka to mix things up which would give MS even more of a chance to get a good result, but it's going to be completely dry all 3 days! Guess 5th is the best we could hope.


Yup, historically it's a car track meaning there's never been a win from a second rate car there.


#13930 Sakae

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 14:44

I am not sure if Ferrari was a superior car to JV' Williams. Tactical planning however helped.

#13931 schubacca

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 14:57

Flawed genius?

I like how the British press like to portray MS as something less than a genius out and out....

Interesting videos :)

#13932 Clay

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 16:24

Can't believe what Autosport journalists wrote for their magazine again.

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Didn't quite show Rosberg's pace???

Yeah sure the pace wasn't comparable, because Michael was 1.5 seconds faster idiots!

i disagree about the pace field but all the other about schumi is pretty spot on

Edited by Clay, 05 October 2011 - 17:19.


#13933 cheapracer

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 17:13

I am not sure if Ferrari was a superior car to JV' Williams. Tactical planning however helped.


Grid 1;
Jacques Villeneuve
Williams FW19/Renault
1'36.071

Grid 2;
Michael Schumacher
Ferrari F310B
1'36.133

I'm quietly confident Benz won't be 0.06 seconds behind Red Bull.


#13934 zelpre

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 19:24

There was a kart event held in Kerpen last weekend. Michael was there: Memorial kart event in Kerpen

#13935 George Costanza

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 01:44

I am not sure if Ferrari was a superior car to JV' Williams. Tactical planning however helped.


That was vintage 1997 Schumacher. He is no where near that level.

If hat that Schumacher in the 2011 Mercedes, he would be top 3 in the championship. He was that good.

While yes he was driving a "average car" compared to Williams...

Edited by George Costanza, 06 October 2011 - 01:46.


#13936 cheapracer

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 03:42

That was vintage 1997 Schumacher. He is no where near that level.

If that was Schumacher in the 2011 Mercedes, he would be top 3 in the championship. He was that good.

While yes he was driving a "average car" compared to Williams...


Brawn states he is, but anyway without the right car that's just conjecture.

MS can not transcend physics - if the Benz is some 1.5 seconds slower around Suzuka which is on the cards, 1997 or today, MS will not top 3 under normal circumstance and as with Spa 4th or 5th would be the target and would be a great result.


#13937 George Costanza

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 04:57

Brawn states he is, but anyway without the right car that's just conjecture.

MS can not transcend physics - if the Benz is some 1.5 seconds slower around Suzuka which is on the cards, 1997 or today, MS will not top 3 under normal circumstance and as with Spa 4th or 5th would be the target and would be a great result.



Yes you are correct about that; the 1997 Williams was an extremely quick car, but Ferrari closed the gap at the end, and Schumacher showed his skills very clearly that season.

I am going to actually disagree with Ross on the 2011 vs Mid to late 1990s Schumacher. He did quite impressive in rather "average" Ferraris. The Red Bull would be like Williams of 1993 rather than 1997 because they are quite dominant; although, 1997 had potential to be very dominant due to how fast Jacques was at Albert Park. But I still think if Schu was in his prime, he could but the Benz somewhat closer to the front end of the grid than now.

#13938 merschu

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 05:38

Michael Schumacher, according to a recent survey, has been voted as "Germany's best athlete of all time"

Poll: Schumacher and Count largest German athletes

Berlin (dpa) Formula 1 world champion Michael Schumacher and tennis star Steffi Graf, according to a recent survey, "Germany's best athlete of all time". As "the most important football player" was chosen in the "Bild" newspaper (Thursday) commissioned representative survey "Kaiser" Franz Beckenbauer, with a maximum value of 53 percent.

Schumacher won 16 percent of the vote; second place in the general category are divided Beckenbauer and tennis star Boris Becker (both 11). Second behind Graf in the women (28) was Olympic figure skating champion Katarina Witt (12) before skier Rosi Mittermaier (7).

Every second German sees 'Bomber' Gerd Muller (51 percent) as the best striker. DFB honorary captain Uwe Seeler surprisingly found out just over 7 percent, the still active striker Miroslav Klose is third (6). Can claim a hollow victory Joachim Löw: Together with the world champion coach in 1954, Sepp Herberger (both 19 percent), he was - although still without a title with the DFB-Elf - chosen as the best football coach.

Biggest Keeper was the "Titan" - Oliver Kahn on 44 percent of the votes accounted for considerable. When the "sympathetic German football club" was record champions FC Bayern Munich (17 percent) emerged from the Forsa survey. As the only second division club FC St. Pauli managed with 6 percent - along with Schalke 04 - at least up to fourth place.

http://translate.goo...a...2F1/979137/



#13939 cheapracer

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 06:49

Michael Schumacher, according to a recent survey, has been voted as "Germany's best athlete of all time"


Ok, I'll come clean - I voted for Stef ..

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 07:41

Ok, I'll come clean - I voted for Stef ..

With picture like this I think we will understand you. :D


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Posted 06 October 2011 - 09:19

Ok, I'll come clean - I voted for Stef ..

http://www.athletesw...Steffi-Graf.jpg


She's Women's No1 :wave:

M. Schumacher 16%
Franz Beckenbauer 11%
Boris Becker 11%

Steffi Graf 28%
Katarina Witt 12%
Rosi Mittermaier 7%


#13942 Tarzaan

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 07:43

Not a bad friday...

#13943 D.M.N.

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 08:45

Don't be surprised if Schumi's driving is a bit controversial this weekend, this is what happened during the drivers' meeting: http://twitpic.com/6wcsj9

:p

#13944 ali.unal

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 08:47

Don't be surprised if Schumi's driving is a bit controversial this weekend, this is what happened during the drivers' meeting: http://twitpic.com/6wcsj9

:p

"I am 42 years old, I don't have to do this."

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#13945 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 08:52

Not a bad friday...

michael was on fumes and nico had enough fuel to finish the season and to the winter testing.michael also cheated and cut a few corners. taking that into account he's probably 1-1.5 sec slower than rosberg on pure pace and he needs to retire
there isn't any other explanation


#13946 sharo

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 08:55

Also got caught speedin in the pitlane, go home Michael :lol:

#13947 Gridfire

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 08:58

there isn't any other explanation


Erm, other than them having different levels of fuel to begin with?

#13948 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:00

as I said, michael was surely on fumes and nico had fuel to run his car until the end of the winter testing
which is the only thing that can happen as we all know nico is faster

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:04

Erm, other than them having different levels of fuel to begin with?

Race will tell.


#13950 Lelouch

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Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:49

Race will tell.


Here comes the typical 2011 wish for Michael, let's hope he and MGP won't ruin his own race, times looked pretty promising for a friday.