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#13901 Spa95

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 13:59

Can't believe what Autosport journalists wrote for their magazine again.

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Didn't quite show Rosberg's pace???

Yeah sure the pace wasn't comparable, because Michael was 1.5 seconds faster idiots!

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#13902 FlashMaster

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 14:00

Can't believe what Autosport journalists wrote for their magazine again.

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Didn't quite show Rosberg's pace???

Yeah sure the pace wasn't comparable, because Michael was 1.5 seconds faster idiots!


English bias, 7 WDC. Lots of pain. :down:


#13903 sharo

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 14:01

Can't believe what Autosport journalists wrote for their magazine again.

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Didn't quite show Rosberg's pace???

Yeah sure the pace wasn't comparable, because Michael was 1.5 seconds faster idiots!

Not surprised at all.

#13904 Jordana

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 14:02

:lol: No, would not....would be a big "GAU" for all F1 fans who aren't Vettel or Schumi suporter & have to see the race on RTL!


You are mean... :mad: :lol:



#13905 Diablobb81

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 15:16

Also the part about Di Resta is wrong. Safety car actually impeded Sutil to jump Nico too.

#13906 zelpre

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 15:54

Also the part about Di Resta is wrong. Safety car actually impeded Sutil to jump Nico too.


They're just idiots. How did safety car actually helped Di Resta compared to Nico?
They both pitted in lap 29, they both had fresh prime tyres on after SC and they both had to complete 31 laps on that set of tyres. And Di Resta was just faster.
In previous stint Rosberg pitted 2 laps after Di Resta. Nico just didn't show good performance, that's all.

http://en.mclarenf-1...h...ul di Resta

Edited by zelpre, 29 September 2011 - 16:14.


#13907 Sakae

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 16:44

Can't believe what Autosport journalists wrote for their magazine again.

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Didn't quite show Rosberg's pace???

Yeah sure the pace wasn't comparable, because Michael was 1.5 seconds faster idiots!

Who said that Autosport contributors are journalists? I always thought of them as cheerleaders and PR people who know how to twist and spin words either to elevate, or denigrate a person. :D

#13908 cheapracer

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 16:46

Can't believe what Autosport journalists wrote for their magazine again.

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Didn't quite show Rosberg's pace???


Yeah how about it Mods, this is the Autosport forums so how about directing the author of that woefully inaccurate bullshit here to explain themselves .....

http://en.mclarenf-1.....el Schumacher

Would not be nice to see Vettel & Schumi together on the podium? And where a better place than Suzuka?


Ummm, just a thought, Germany ...... ?


Michael driving very good, is making his threads very dull.


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#13909 merschu

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 19:24

Just saw Edd Straw's twitter profile. Somebody asked him about this rating of Singapore for Michael & Nico and pointing out the statement that " M.S didn't quite show Rosberg's pace"! To which he said this

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Edd Straw: I'd argue that in Singapore Schuey's pace wasn't quite as good as Nico's in the phase before Nico's tyres went off (early).

If you consult the pre-Singapore Autosport issue you will see a detailed article in which I point out Schuey's strong performance.

And how he is now arguably faster than Nico on race pace. Hardly trying to come up with excuses for Nico.



#13910 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 19:53

well that's kind of a strange way to compare.
his tyres went off early but that can be one of the reasons he had a couple of good laps in the first place....


#13911 Lelouch

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 20:25

Another example showing that some journalists are just trolls with a professional license.. GTFO seriously

#13912 zelpre

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 20:49

Edd Straw: I'd argue that in Singapore Schuey's pace wasn't quite as good as Nico's in the phase before Nico's tyres went off (early).


LOL LOL LOL. they have the same car and they had the same tyres, it's his problem if he doesn't know how to race AND look after the tyres. That's part of F1. What kind of excuse is that?

If you consult the pre-Singapore Autosport issue you will see a detailed article in which I point out Schuey's strong performance.


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Oh really? Where's Turkey? All people just saw a 12th place, but if you look at the lap times, Michael had better pace and even with one set of tyres less!
Where's Malaysia GP? 25 seconds behind Michael or more?
Where's Monaco?
They say the data disregards non-comparable stints, how's then 3rd stint in Belgian GP comparable? Seriously are they stupid that much? Or they hate Michael even more as they are stupid? Wasn't Michael fighting from the back of the field? 3rd stint was stint after a safety-car from lap 17 to la 29. Michael had lots of traffic. This aren't magazines really, this are bullshit-kid comics.
Michael has been faster in race pace for most of the season. Rosberg was faster just in China and Valencia.

And how he is now arguably faster than Nico on race pace. Hardly trying to come up with excuses for Nico


Sure for Nico there can be excuses, but for Michael it's always "he's to old he should retire."

Oh how much I hate people like that, who can't analyze races in details and then they call theirselves as journalists. Yeah sure, GTFO.

Edited by zelpre, 29 September 2011 - 21:00.


#13913 Woody3says

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 21:03

You guys all missed Spa then?

I'm sorry, you mean the same Spa race where grandpa set yet another record? Britany may have had his Wheaties that morning, but one race does not change the fact he has been limp wristed with the rest of the grid this year.

#13914 Group B

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 21:17

Can't believe what Autosport journalists wrote for their magazine again.

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Didn't quite show Rosberg's pace???

Yeah sure the pace wasn't comparable, because Michael was 1.5 seconds faster idiots!

They really should be made to explain themselves; they're 'supposed' to be experienced, well-paid professionals, but this Ray Charles impersonating, half-witted, Britney lover is apparenty getting paid to spew out a great pat of arse gravy that suggests either a) he didn't watch the race, b) he is a sub-moron, or c) he has a massive issue with MS.

#13915 as65p

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 21:31

To think that only some posts ago someone called this thread dull! :drunk:

Really, on one hand complaints galore about how much MS is allegedly hated by people, but then an the same time so much vitriol against that journo for getting one half-sentence wrong? Apart from "Didn't quite show Rosberg's pace" which is obviously wrong, the rest of the text describes MS race accurately enough, or not?

#13916 Group B

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 21:37

To think that only some posts ago someone called this thread dull! :drunk:

Really, on one hand complaints galore about how much MS is allegedly hated by people, but then an the same time so much vitriol against that journo for getting one half-sentence wrong? Apart from "Didn't quite show Rosberg's pace" which is obviously wrong, the rest of the text describes MS race accurately enough, or not?

That's dandy, except the one little bit he got wrong is a rather important bit, like THE MOST IMPORTANT bit. As you say, it was very obviously wrong, which begs the question, hw could anyone possibly get that wrong? :confused: :eek:

#13917 as65p

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 21:59

That's dandy, except the one little bit he got wrong is a rather important bit, like THE MOST IMPORTANT bit. As you say, it was very obviously wrong, which begs the question, hw could anyone possibly get that wrong? :confused: :eek:


Sure, not defending that lapse in the slightest, just don't see how it's the end of the world. It's not as if what one anonymous journalist writes would make a difference to what really happened.

#13918 Woody3says

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 22:21

Sure, not defending that lapse in the slightest, just don't see how it's the end of the world. It's not as if what one anonymous journalist writes would make a difference to what really happened.

That would be right if it wasn't for the fact that the casual fan is dubiously swayed by what these so called journos write.

#13919 cheapracer

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 04:07

Sure, not defending that lapse in the slightest, just don't see how it's the end of the world. It's not as if what one anonymous journalist writes would make a difference to what really happened.


Sometimes from the other side of the fence one can throw a bit of hurt, a bit of sarcasm, some cynical comment or even truth and other times one should just be smart, side step and look for another hole in the fence.

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#13920 umapathypon

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 06:00

As a long time Schumacher fan, I have been happiest with the last few races since his comeback.
Yes, he crashed in Singapore. However, I would rather take what Michael had shown in the race rather than the result NR got in Singapore.
Schumacher was seriously fast.

Thats pretty much it.

#13921 Tarzaan

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 10:23

Also Costa & Geoffrey Willis to Merc. It's official :)

Edited by Tarzaan, 30 September 2011 - 10:23.


#13922 BRK

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 12:58

As a long time Schumacher fan, I have been happiest with the last few races since his comeback.
Yes, he crashed in Singapore. However, I would rather take what Michael had shown in the race rather than the result NR got in Singapore.
Schumacher was seriously fast.

Thats pretty much it.


Plus the pace has been there all season long, only for frustrating accidents and problems to spoil weekend after weekend.

Hope he has a clean race at Suzuka!

#13923 holiday

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 13:13

Schumacher was seriously fast.


But too hectic.


#13924 Igorr

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 14:16

"All the guys who have the skill have the championships, and the guys who have the most skill have seven of them" - Jock Clear on the FOTA fans forum haha nice one

#13925 EdwardCullen

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 14:23

"All the guys who have the skill have the championships, and the guys who have the most skill have seven of them" - Jock Clear on the FOTA fans forum haha nice one

fantastic :up:

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 14:58

"All the guys who have the skill have the championships, and the guys who have the most skill have seven of them" - Jock Clear on the FOTA fans forum haha nice one

That's rather cool :D :up:

#13927 Wi000

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 15:03

"All the guys who have the skill have the championships, and the guys who have the most skill have seven of them" - Jock Clear on the FOTA fans forum haha nice one

awesome :up:

#13928 zelpre

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 15:18

"All the guys who have the skill have the championships, and the guys who have the most skill have seven of them" - Jock Clear on the FOTA fans forum haha nice one


Source?

#13929 Igorr

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 15:23

http://www.jamesalle...com/fans-forum/

here you have some interesting videos from the FOTA forum, and the quote is taken from "chapter 6:driver skills" at around 4:10 mark.

#13930 holiday

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 15:27

"All the guys who have the skill have the championships, and the guys who have the most skill have seven of them" - Jock Clear on the FOTA fans forum haha nice one


I remember Clear being rather anti-MS, but that may simply stem from the fact that he became first visible as Jacques's engineer when the latter was still a force.


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Posted 30 September 2011 - 15:34

"All the guys who have the skill have the championships, and the guys who have the most skill have seven of them" - Jock Clear on the FOTA fans forum haha nice one



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#13932 EdwardCullen

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 15:40

I remember Clear being rather anti-MS, but that may simply stem from the fact that he became first visible as Jacques's engineer when the latter was still a force.

To be fair to Jock....he was furious about MS hitting JV at Jerez 97
and he might have said something as he was JV's engineer....which is understandable.

Edited by EdwardCullen, 30 September 2011 - 15:47.


#13933 Igorr

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 16:02

I'm pretty sure that if there is any conflict between them, Michael would have got a new engineer long time ago.


#13934 umapathypon

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Posted 30 September 2011 - 16:44

But too hectic.

True. However - has he ever been any other way?

#13935 spacekid

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 10:41

lol, a couple of weeks when Jock was announced as working with Michael at Spa there was mock outrage that he had sabotaged the car, a few kindly words and now we all love him :p

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 10:46

lol, a couple of weeks when Jock was announced as working with Michael at Spa there was mock outrage that he had sabotaged the car, a few kindly words and now we all love him :p

I imagine that JC has spent enough time with with MS to start appreciating the flawed genius. Could be a strong and useful partnership.

#13937 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 18:04

lol, a couple of weeks when Jock was announced as working with Michael at Spa there was mock outrage that he had sabotaged the car, a few kindly words and now we all love him :p

maybe because things have improved in MS's performance and it looks like these guys are working well together.

#13938 pUs

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 19:01

I imagine that JC has spent enough time with with MS to start appreciating the flawed genius. Could be a strong and useful partnership.


I think so too. Wouldn't be surprised to see him stay as race engineer for Michael.

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 22:05

lol, a couple of weeks when Jock was announced as working with Michael at Spa there was mock outrage that he had sabotaged the car, a few kindly words and now we all love him :p

Well, I'm delighted to boast that while I made a joke about jock sabotaging the car, I also said not jokingly that if Ross could get these two working together he would have pulled off a coup (and deserve a Nobel peace prize). Jock for all his abrasive nature is a damned good engineer, and Michael is Michael. It seems to be working out

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#13940 BRK

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 02:06

Loved that comment of his, but the FOTA fan forum video is from July last year, so I'm guessing he's either even more supportive of Schumacher today or the opposite, considering MS has had a much better season this year and is quicker than Rosberg.

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 07:30

Random thought......



That's his last podium. Like 5 years ago. It's about time you go back up there again, Schu. A podium before this season ends would be very nice.

Good luck in Suzuka!

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 09:53

It was a bad move to have Clear working in a team environment where his first rival is MSC. Yet he's a brilliant engineer so there's an obvious solution and that's let him work with Michael. I'm 100% sure this has taken away any bad feelings between them. They are probably mutually impressed by their work and so far are a great pairing.

#13943 Clatter

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 02:09

It was a bad move to have Clear working in a team environment where his first rival is MSC. Yet he's a brilliant engineer so there's an obvious solution and that's let him work with Michael. I'm 100% sure this has taken away any bad feelings between them. They are probably mutually impressed by their work and so far are a great pairing.


Only if you believe JC is totally unprofessional and that it hadn't all been discussed and agreed by all parties.

#13944 Sakae

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 02:40

Only if you believe JC is totally unprofessional and that it hadn't all been discussed and agreed by all parties.


Unfortunately being professional is perhaps not enough in F1. Is he hungry enough for win with Scumacher is next step in evalution of his fitness to be part of the team.

#13945 Clatter

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 07:26

Unfortunately being professional is perhaps not enough in F1. Is he hungry enough for win with Scumacher is next step in evalution of his fitness to be part of the team.


Again, do you not for one minute think that everyone involved has not fully discussed things? He has not just fallen into the position by accident.

#13946 ali.unal

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Posted 03 October 2011 - 08:03

Random thought......



That's his last podium. Like 5 years ago. It's about time you go back up there again, Schu. A podium before this season ends would be very nice.

Good luck in Suzuka!

Stupid director missed his last jump on an F1 podium. What an a**hole.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 12:39

I was hoping for some rain at Suzuka to mix things up which would give MS even more of a chance to get a good result, but it's going to be completely dry all 3 days! Guess 5th is the best we could hope.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 14:33

I was hoping for some rain at Suzuka to mix things up which would give MS even more of a chance to get a good result, but it's going to be completely dry all 3 days! Guess 5th is the best we could hope.


Yup, historically it's a car track meaning there's never been a win from a second rate car there.


#13949 Sakae

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 14:44

I am not sure if Ferrari was a superior car to JV' Williams. Tactical planning however helped.

#13950 schubacca

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 14:57

Flawed genius?

I like how the British press like to portray MS as something less than a genius out and out....

Interesting videos :)