My view exactly. And not the guy who was faster.
Its irrelevant that you think Alonso wasn't faster than Schumacher since its impossible to prove it anyway (and a doubtful hypothesis in any case).
Yes and I'm making my pro-Schumacher opinion in the, not surprisingly, Schumacher thread.
The pro-Alonso thread is here, maybe you should post there - I mean it's on page 2 so needs all the help it can get.
Not the most intelligent argument I've seen in a while. If someone disagrees with you, ask them to go away ?
Ferrari went very conservative with the tyres at the beginning until (I think Williams) pointed that Bridgestone had in fact better spec ones. That's the reason for the crash in Australia - went far over the limit of their tyres - and losing the first races.
Turkey? It was the SC and the pit stop in the most unsuitable time because of it. No driver error.
Hungary - I don't know who is responsible for staying out on warn to slicks intermedias. But at least was an exciting drive, although desperate.
Monaco? I think better not touch this. Most say it was deliberate, you say mistake, and I agree.
(BTW, seeing Button not able to engage reverse gear and the car consequently stalling in Singapore, the Monaco 2006 events came to my mind.)
1. Going 'far over the limit of their tyres' is classified as driver error
2. I'm referring to Schumacher's mess up in his Q3 lap which cost him pole, which caused him to wait behind Massa, which caused him to lose the race.
3. 'At least was an exciting drive' doesn't cover for the fact that he defended illegally and made a mistake continuing on those tyres, and then collided with Heidfeld in a move that was clearly his fault.
4. If Monaco was deliberate, Schumacher made a mistake of judgement thinking he'd get away with blatant blocking. If it wasn't deliberate, it was one of the worst mistakes made by a top driver in the past 20 years. Take your pick.
Just like 2009, then. Easy being 'consistent' when you have out and away the fastest, best, and rock-solidly reliable car + tyre package to start the season with. Button didn't even have the advantage Renault had going into the second half of the season.
Incorrect facts again. Ferrari was in the hunt from the very first race (Bahrain) and were always in contention for podium finishes at the very least if not race wins. In the second half of the season Ferrari was arguably as good as Renault was in the first half, with the exception of wet races.
As for arbitrary stuff from the FIA,how about the pathetic outcry over the flexi-wings as early as Malaysia in March? Funny how no one talks about that, how Ferrari (Schumacher in particular) were targeted. The same concept that seems to have been rather important to the performance of the Red Bull in recent years. As opposed to letting Renault get away with their cheating for a whopping 11 races in 06, continuing on from 2005.
We're talking about drivers being affected by mechanical failures / things outside his sphere of control. Hence the point on Monza 2006.
Are you saying Alonso's penalty at Monza was justified ?
Edited by SparkPlug, 14 October 2011 - 17:03.