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#14501 Lelouch

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 11:16

The only thing i don't like about this season concerning Michael is that every Saturday i catch myself praying that he won't crash on Sunday.. :-/

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#14502 ivand911

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 11:17

"Jenson Button is keeping his fingers crossed that Sebastian Vettel does not lose his second place slot on the grid for the Korean Grand Prix for cutting the track - because he does not want to start on the dirty side of the track."
This doesn't sound good for place 12.

#14503 PoliFanAthic

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 11:25

I was thinking about the same.

Bring it! :D

#14504 fisssssi

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 11:30

"Jenson Button is keeping his fingers crossed that Sebastian Vettel does not lose his second place slot on the grid for the Korean Grand Prix for cutting the track - because he does not want to start on the dirty side of the track."
This doesn't sound good for place 12.


Don't worry, they will just drive down the left hand side of the track during the warm up tomorrow morning to clean it up.

#14505 ivand911

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 11:44

Don't worry, they will just drive down the left hand side of the track during the warm up tomorrow morning to clean it up.

They don't do warm up anymore.
Vettel said that S are better than SS, And he will use SS only at the start and after that only S. So, MS can start with SS tomorrow.


#14506 spacekid

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 12:15

Damn shame about today. I really hope Michael gets all his quali car snafus out the way this year so next year there are no more of these problems.

I think tomorrow could be tricky, those Torro Rossos are looking much better and the Findias often race with the Mercs now. 8th would be a great result all things considered.

#14507 Wade

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 13:13

Let's do this, Schumi. Best of luck!

#14508 cheapracer

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 13:30

Aprox lap time 100 seconds.

50 laps x 2 seconds.

FFS, I just hope both Benz don't suffer the indignity of being lapped.

#14509 BRK

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 13:53

A SC should help delay that eventuality..

I think it could be a good race, Merc aren't too bad with straightline speed should should be ample opportunity for overtaking. Though I'm a bit worried about the pit exit.

#14510 Igorr

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 14:38

something tells me that Michael will be in front of Nico after the 1st lap

#14511 Ragingjamaican

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 16:59

"Jenson Button is keeping his fingers crossed that Sebastian Vettel does not lose his second place slot on the grid for the Korean Grand Prix for cutting the track - because he does not want to start on the dirty side of the track."
This doesn't sound good for place 12.


It's one of the shortest runs from start/finish straight to Turn 1, so I don't think he will lose many places, maybe just one.

Although the first Turn is quite tight and tricky, I expect a first turn collision involving a fair few cars

#14512 Tardis40

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 17:10

Considering the highest he could reasonably expect to finish is P7, I don't see any problem with his grid position. He'll get half of them back at the start, and will have lots of new rubber for the race.

#14513 spacekid

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 17:33

Considering the highest he could reasonably expect to finish is P7, I don't see any problem with his grid position. He'll get half of them back at the start, and will have lots of new rubber for the race.


Unfortunately I don't share your optimism. As mentioned above, its a very short sprint to the start and starting from the dirty side it will be tough to make up places.

Regards the rubber the super softs are expected to melt like action man under a magnifying glass tomorrow, so having extra sets of those is no help - the majority of the race is expected to be run on softs and everyone has equal numbers of them. Except Red Bull, who were weirdly slow on their super softs in Q1.

He should be ok for some points, but I'm fearful of the first corner. It gets really tight around there, could go well, could go very badly.

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 19:14

Something tells me that tomorrow won't be a good day for Michael. I'm not really optimistic for the race. I'm really worried about the start...

#14515 Tardis40

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 19:26

Unfortunately I don't share your optimism.


Now, now, we've got to keep a positive attitude, until the bitter end! lol


#14516 zelpre

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 19:36

Now, now, we've got to keep a positive attitude, until the bitter end! lol


Bah in the situation he is, P7 is now very optimistic. And P7 for me is waste of time. I mean, last races Michael really had the pace, Massa is always reachable and so he is in the championship, but if this qualifications...Meh.

I say P6 - pass Nico and one of the top 3 teams, then I'm satisfied.

Edited by zelpre, 15 October 2011 - 20:15.


#14517 ivand911

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 20:37

I hope difference from both sides will be not so big. They drive not very much on dry. No other series run there I think. Track was dirty, rain washed it. Ideal line is not exactly over right starting positions. In Suzuka MS start very well from position 8th. First corner will be tricky ,but he can take one more position on the long straight.

#14518 F1Champion

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 20:45

Reliability related DNFs : 1 (Japan) vs 3 (Hungary, Italy for FA and Bahrain for Fisichella)


You forget the massive piston issues that Ferrari had at the beginning of the season, they had to lower the power of the engine to make it last. The engine overheated once or twice meaning lower revs (and a grid place penalty).

On balance the Renault was fast from the start of the season to the end, no tyre issues, no handling issues, no need to play catch up from the start of the season unlike Ferrari.

Edited by F1Champion, 15 October 2011 - 21:00.


#14519 arknor

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 20:49

The only thing i don't like about this season concerning Michael is that every Saturday i catch myself praying that he won't crash on Sunday.. :-/

on the early morning races like korea etc i find my self wondering wether its worth getting up or wether schumacher will be out of the race in the first few corners...

i didnt bother getting up yesterday for qualifying and im glad i didnt , hopefully i wont regret waking up at 6am tommorow

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#14520 Sakae

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 02:02

Michael will bring that lawnmover right up there... :) (Oh boy, what a year).

Edited by Sakae, 16 October 2011 - 02:06.


#14521 Wade

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 02:08

So I see a lot of negativity in this thread.......but I understand why. Just hope for the best, and prepare for the worst. Whatever happens, im behind MS's back.



#14522 Sakae

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 02:12

So I see a lot of negativity in this thread.......but I understand why. Just hope for the best, and prepare for the worst. Whatever happens, im behind MS's back.

...just for the record, I have never doubted that Schumacher does his very best under any circumstances, but right now he is dancing with the devil, and that needs to be fixed. Maybe in 2012, maybe in 2013.

Edited by Sakae, 16 October 2011 - 02:15.


#14523 zelpre

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 05:31

30mins left to the race. Let's hope for a stunning start, all the best for Michael.

EDIT: very cloudy, rain is possible!!

Edited by zelpre, 16 October 2011 - 05:40.


#14524 ivand911

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 05:45

Waiting for the magic.
Grid girls little naked for the weather.
MS with SS!

Edited by ivand911, 16 October 2011 - 06:01.


#14525 Richardc

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:18

:( not shaping up for a great race unless there's a downpour.

#14526 Richardc

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:33

**** petrov

#14527 Sof1

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:33

OMG!!! PETROV!!!!

#14528 Diablobb81

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:33

Great. And he made some awesome laps before the pitstops.

#14529 DutchCruijff

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:34

ARGH **** OFF PETROV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#14530 DisruptioN

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:34

IDIOTA


#14531 BRK

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:34

Another race ruined by a bloody rookie-at-heart in the midfield.

#14532 Igorr

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:35

this is why he MUST have a good grid position,,, to avoid driving with rookies who don't know how to brake with the DRS zone

#14533 Jejking

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:35

Jejking adds another note at the Schumacher Bad Luck Hitlist 2011...

What was Petrov thinking? :rolleyes:

#14534 Richardc

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:35

So how many DNFs out of his hands is that?

#14535 Sof1

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:35

He was doing so well!!!

#14536 ivand911

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:36

MS was ahead of Alonso, and MGP have somehow good pace.

#14537 Jejking

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:37

this is why he MUST have a good grid position,,, to avoid driving with rookies who don't know how to brake with the DRS zone

The difference between P7 and P12 is not all that great eh. It's simply a fact of the madness directly after the pitstops..

#14538 GoRacing

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:38

Another race ruined by a bloody rookie-at-heart in the midfield.


Petrov should be kicked out of F1. That pr!ck doesn't know when to brake.

EDIT: He passed both Ferraris and Petrov. So he was just behind Nico. Could have been a really good race.

Edited by GoRacing, 16 October 2011 - 06:41.


#14539 Wade

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:39

OMFG. Im so sick of this ****. It ****ing happens EVERY single **** time. SO LUCKY!

I need to go outside and breathe some air.

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#14540 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:39

It had to happen. These poor qualifying positions always leave him exposed to these kamikaze ex-GP2 drivers.

Schumacher always seems to be in a points-DNF-points race.

Such a shame, could have been ahead of both Ferraris today and maybe even Rosberg.

No doubt all the trolls will have a field day for the next two weeks.

Edited by Ferrari_F1_fan_2001, 16 October 2011 - 06:43.


#14541 Disgrace

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:40

Schumacher shouldn't be kicked out of F1 for hitting Petrov in Turkey and Valencia, should he?

#14542 Massa_f1

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:41

OMFG. Im so sick of this ****. It ****ing happens EVERY single **** time. SO LUCKY!

I need to go outside and breathe some air.



I am furious :mad: I am sick of these hot heads in the mid field. I said before the race Petrov would hit Schumacher and it happend.

#14543 Richardc

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:41

Kind of different situations...

#14544 ivand911

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:41

Schumacher shouldn't be kicked out of F1 for hitting Petrov in Turkey and Valencia, should he?

Did he leave him in the car there??


#14545 Tarzaan

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:41

Petrov :down: :down: :down:

#14546 BRK

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:42

The amount of damage on the Mercedes pretty much said it all. Petrov was carrying a ridiculous amount of speed and had no clue when to brake, from the looks of it.

#14547 repeatoffender

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:43

OMG!!! PETROV!!!!



Fucken idiots at BBC, so anti MS, ridiculous!!!! These guys are pathetic than Hitler.

Lap 17: Debris on track and safety car out! Petrov comes hammering into the corner too fast and, while Alonso spots the incoming Renault, Schumacher turns straight into the Russian. Petrov's nose gets airbourne, Schumacher's rear wing is hanging off, his tyre is punctured and that is his race over. Alonso will be wiping his brow to have avoided that mess.

Courtesy BBC

#14548 Umpire

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:45

Schumacher turns straight into the Russian.

:rotfl:

#14549 Sof1

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:47

Michael just did an interview with RTL in German, anyone can summarize?

#14550 Diablobb81

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:47

Nice words form Schumacher on Petrov : Petrov good sportsman, incidents happen, MSC was also too blame for the first two incidents.

Also said he was holding back so as to have pace before pitstops. Worked for him.

Edited by Diablobb81, 16 October 2011 - 06:48.