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#14551 Igorr

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:35

this is why he MUST have a good grid position,,, to avoid driving with rookies who don't know how to brake with the DRS zone

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#14552 Jejking

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:35

Jejking adds another note at the Schumacher Bad Luck Hitlist 2011...

What was Petrov thinking? :rolleyes:

#14553 Richardc

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:35

So how many DNFs out of his hands is that?

#14554 Sof1

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:35

He was doing so well!!!

#14555 ivand911

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:36

MS was ahead of Alonso, and MGP have somehow good pace.

#14556 Jejking

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:37

this is why he MUST have a good grid position,,, to avoid driving with rookies who don't know how to brake with the DRS zone

The difference between P7 and P12 is not all that great eh. It's simply a fact of the madness directly after the pitstops..

#14557 GoRacing

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:38

Another race ruined by a bloody rookie-at-heart in the midfield.


Petrov should be kicked out of F1. That pr!ck doesn't know when to brake.

EDIT: He passed both Ferraris and Petrov. So he was just behind Nico. Could have been a really good race.

Edited by GoRacing, 16 October 2011 - 06:41.


#14558 Wade

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:39

OMFG. Im so sick of this ****. It ****ing happens EVERY single **** time. SO LUCKY!

I need to go outside and breathe some air.

#14559 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:39

It had to happen. These poor qualifying positions always leave him exposed to these kamikaze ex-GP2 drivers.

Schumacher always seems to be in a points-DNF-points race.

Such a shame, could have been ahead of both Ferraris today and maybe even Rosberg.

No doubt all the trolls will have a field day for the next two weeks.

Edited by Ferrari_F1_fan_2001, 16 October 2011 - 06:43.


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#14560 Disgrace

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:40

Schumacher shouldn't be kicked out of F1 for hitting Petrov in Turkey and Valencia, should he?

#14561 Massa_f1

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:41

OMFG. Im so sick of this ****. It ****ing happens EVERY single **** time. SO LUCKY!

I need to go outside and breathe some air.



I am furious :mad: I am sick of these hot heads in the mid field. I said before the race Petrov would hit Schumacher and it happend.

#14562 Richardc

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:41

Kind of different situations...

#14563 ivand911

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:41

Schumacher shouldn't be kicked out of F1 for hitting Petrov in Turkey and Valencia, should he?

Did he leave him in the car there??


#14564 Tarzaan

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:41

Petrov :down: :down: :down:

#14565 BRK

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:42

The amount of damage on the Mercedes pretty much said it all. Petrov was carrying a ridiculous amount of speed and had no clue when to brake, from the looks of it.

#14566 repeatoffender

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:43

OMG!!! PETROV!!!!



Fucken idiots at BBC, so anti MS, ridiculous!!!! These guys are pathetic than Hitler.

Lap 17: Debris on track and safety car out! Petrov comes hammering into the corner too fast and, while Alonso spots the incoming Renault, Schumacher turns straight into the Russian. Petrov's nose gets airbourne, Schumacher's rear wing is hanging off, his tyre is punctured and that is his race over. Alonso will be wiping his brow to have avoided that mess.

Courtesy BBC

#14567 Umpire

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:45

Schumacher turns straight into the Russian.

:rotfl:

#14568 Sof1

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:47

Michael just did an interview with RTL in German, anyone can summarize?

#14569 Diablobb81

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:47

Nice words form Schumacher on Petrov : Petrov good sportsman, incidents happen, MSC was also too blame for the first two incidents.

Also said he was holding back so as to have pace before pitstops. Worked for him.

Edited by Diablobb81, 16 October 2011 - 06:48.


#14570 Tarzaan

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:49

Fucken idiots at BBC, so anti MS, ridiculous!!!! These guys are pathetic than Hitler.


+1

Edited by Tarzaan, 16 October 2011 - 06:49.


#14571 Lelouch

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:49

Fucken idiots at BBC, so anti MS, ridiculous!!!! These guys are pathetic than Hitler.

Schumacher turns straight into the Russian

Courtesy BBC


Yeah, instead of vanishing which would be the right thing to do there.. /facepalm
I still consider Turkey Petrov's fault though and as many of you I CAN"T STAND THIS ANYMORE!!!! :cry:

#14572 ivand911

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:49

MS should be 6th now. :rolleyes: I don't know how MS jump Massa, Alonso and Petrov. They were more than 7 sec ahead.

Edited by ivand911, 16 October 2011 - 06:51.


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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:49

****ing hell, the in-car shot from Alonso shows just how dumb both he & VP were.

That has got to be a grid penalty at the very least, absolutely ridiculous. Possibly the stupidest crash of the season (and yes I'm including LH's long list).

#14574 PoliFanAthic

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:50

Crying shame, as usual. But very nice words from Michael, made me relax a bit.

#14575 Disgrace

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:50

Nice words form Schumacher on Petrov : Petrov good sportsman, incidents happen, MSC was also too blame for the first two incidents.

Also said he was holding back so as to have pace before pitstops. Worked for him.


Exactly. Shit happens, he'll have already moved on.

#14576 Wade

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:51

Incident will be investigated after the race.

Still, ****

#14577 Lelouch

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:52

****ing hell, the in-car shot from Alonso shows just how dumb both he & VP were.


That's what i thought too.. pretty unreasonable i don't know where they expected to turn.. or maybe Alonso's plot was to send VP at the back of Schumi to get rid of them both :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:52

Classy comments by MS, it's a cast-iron guarantee posters such as ***** & other trolls won't be capable of behaving themselves in a similar manner.

Edit: In relation to the bias comment by the BBC, it's important to give acknowledgement when it's due...

BBC F1 co-commentator David Coulthard: "The information we had was that Schumacher spun at Turn Three. Schumacher didn't spin, he was attacked at Turn Three!"

Edited by MightyMoose, 16 October 2011 - 06:54.


#14579 GoRacing

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:58

Classy comments by MS, it's a cast-iron guarantee posters such as ***** & other trolls won't be capable of behaving themselves in a similar manner.

Edit: In relation to the bias comment by the BBC, it's important to give acknowledgement when it's due...

BBC F1 co-commentator David Coulthard: "The information we had was that Schumacher spun at Turn Three. Schumacher didn't spin, he was attacked at Turn Three!"


I agree, after they realized what happened, Brundle said he felt Alonso and Petrov thought they were the only two cars on the track! :lol:

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#14580 Sof1

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:58

Thanks for the summary.

Still, Schumacher was doing great. Better than the girl with the other merc, i can't believe how easy it was for the Ferraris to pass him!

Edited by Sof1, 16 October 2011 - 06:59.


#14581 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:58

Brundle and Coulthard hold Schumacher in high esteem, in awe but also arent afraid to criticise him either.

He could have jumped Rosberg.

#14582 Richardc

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 06:59

Schumacher: "That's racing, it does happen"

#14583 DutchCruijff

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 07:00

Listening to his interview, it's quite clear Michael doesn't care about this season. Laidback, less critical and much more understanding.

#14584 Igorr

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 07:15

he knows that this kind of things will only stop happening when merc will give him a car capable of qualifying on the first/second row at least.

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 07:16

Shame, but as Michael said, thats racing. He was pretty phlegmatic about the whole thing.

He was having an ok not great first stint but ending up ahead of Alonso was good - I think he was on the right tyres for a strong result but we won't know.

DC has been particuluarly special this weekend. Yesterday he said the vibrations on Michaels car were definately due to Michael locking up on the out lap - not true - he then called Michael a 'zero' after quali, today said Michael has some of the slowest reactions of any driver on the grid and then that Rosberg was having Mercedes strongest race of the season. Any of these comments in isolation would be ignorable, but week after week of criticism and I just think the guy needs to let it go.

Anyhoo.

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 07:16

It looked good, was 8th virtually and 3 stints left to catch 7

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 07:18

Erm, Merc strongest race was Canada.

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 07:45

Clearly strongest race of the season for Merc... lol

#14589 PoliFanAthic

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 07:50

It's funny, how every time Nico has some problems in the race (like ill-advised pit-stop in Hungary, losing out to Di Resta in Singapore, today's matter with Alguersari), generally pit-decision related, it's in races when Schumacher had already retired.

#14590 GoRacing

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 07:53

It's funny, how every time Nico has some problems in the race (like ill-advised pit-stop in Hungary, losing out to Di Resta in Singapore, today's matter with Alguersari), generally pit-decision related, it's in races when Schumacher had already retired.

I know all the anti-MS brigade would not agree, but he would have comfortably passed Nico and maybe he even would have ended up ahead of Massa.

#14591 PoliFanAthic

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 07:54

Hard to say, Rosberg was almost ten seconds ahead (or thereabouts) before the "accident".

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 07:58

Shame, but as Michael said, thats racing. He was pretty phlegmatic about the whole thing.

He was having an ok not great first stint but ending up ahead of Alonso was good - I think he was on the right tyres for a strong result but we won't know.

DC has been particuluarly special this weekend. Yesterday he said the vibrations on Michaels car were definately due to Michael locking up on the out lap - not true - he then called Michael a 'zero' after quali, today said Michael has some of the slowest reactions of any driver on the grid and then that Rosberg was having Mercedes strongest race of the season. Any of these comments in isolation would be ignorable, but week after week of criticism and I just think the guy needs to let it go.

Anyhoo.


If you want to slag Coulthard, you should not use the comments about reaction time.

He said that it USED to be his achilles heel, but that he have worked on that and are now doing great, having gained 24 positions in the last 7 races. I second the poster above, saying that Coulthard and Brundle are not adverse to critique, nor are they adverse to praise.

I liked how Schumacher stated what most real fans should acknowledge. Race incidents happen, the current idea that it is always someones 'fault' degrade and diminish racing and the heritage of what racing is about.

:cool:


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Posted 16 October 2011 - 07:59

Hard to say, Rosberg was almost ten seconds ahead (or thereabouts) before the "accident".

I think Algersuari was still behind MS before the accident and he pass Nico in the end. Yeah, Nico fuel problems helped. But, it would help MS too.


#14594 Sof1

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 08:00

Michael would have most probably finished ahead of Rosberg today.

#14595 PoliFanAthic

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 08:02

I think Algersuari was still behind MS before the accident and he pass Nico in the end. Yeah, Nico fuel problems helped. But, it would help MS too.


So there's two things to it: firstly, that Alguersari got closer due to the SC caused by MSC; secondly, that if the SC had not been on, Rosberg would've had an even bigger fuel problem. But as usual, it's a would've, should've, could've situation.

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 08:06

Without the accident I think MS would have been 5th/6th depending on how Alonso got on towards the end of the race.

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 08:07

Michael would have most probably finished ahead of Rosberg today.

From a Schumacher fan, Rosbergs pace was quite good today. I don't know how it would have went with tyre wear due to setup but the fact was that Rosberg was steadily pulling away from MSC. Also on the end of the stint Schumacher wasn't consistently faster than NR, as far as I've seen on LT. We must say that MSC has done something very good, snatching a place from Petrov AND Alonso on his outlap. Undercut was successful but too bad that the Spaniard and the Russian seemed to have tunnel vision.

Edited by Jejking, 16 October 2011 - 08:09.


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Posted 16 October 2011 - 08:10

Brundle and Coulthard hold Schumacher in high esteem, in awe but also arent afraid to criticise him either.

He could have jumped Rosberg.

you realise they went some years refusing to speak to each other right?

Edited by arknor, 16 October 2011 - 08:11.


#14599 Sof1

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 08:11

From a Schumacher fan, Rosbergs pace was quite good today. I don't know how it would have went with tyre wear due to setup but the fact was that Rosberg was steadily pulling away from MSC. Also on the end of the stint Schumacher wasn't consistently faster than NR, as far as I've seen on LT. We must say that MSC has done something very good, snatching a place from Petrov AND Alonso on his outlap. Undercut was successful but too bad that the Spaniard and the Russian seemed to have tunnel vision.


Schumacher, was as usual, saving his tyres until the moment when he needed to push hard. He would have been able stay on his second SS set, more than Rosberg and would have had better tyres towards the end.

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#14600 ivand911

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 08:12

It is official: MS is the best driver in the first lap and he is also the unluckiest driver in the field.
Michael said he was keeping his tyres.
"Slower" MS somehow overtake both Ferrari and Petrov in the box. So, he was quick enough. He save his tyres for this moment I guess. I doubt he would have used another SS set.

Edited by ivand911, 16 October 2011 - 08:17.