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#15101 ivand911

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 17:00

Still no onboard start? There are usually people who record it on the dedicated feed he has in Germany, but I can't find any vids :( .

Me too.


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#15102 Spa95

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 17:01

Still no onboard start? There are usually people who record it on the dedicated feed he has in Germany, but I can't find any vids :( .

That dedicated Sky onboard channel is no more.

It was the same story with the BBC onboard channel (afaik they never switched to MS at all during the race), and they also couldn't be bothered to show any extra replays during the Red Button forum. In short: forget it - unless the highlights video on F1.com will contain any footage. :well:

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#15103 Mastah

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 19:13

I'm glad it was picked up by some media:

http://www.blick.ch/...etaetlos-185756

Lack of respect deserves lack of respect too :down:. Classless **** :down:.

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#15104 Poep

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 19:22

I'm glad it was picked up by some media:

http://www.blick.ch/...etaetlos-185756

Lack of respect deserves lack of respect too :down:. Classless **** :down:.

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Bullshit. Who says you have to take of your hat. respect is given by what's inside and not what you wear. Why are some drivers looking down and some not? Is half of them respectless? No! Because there are no rules in paying respect. They agreed to have a minute silence, nothing more. If MS would have been talking during that minute, than I would agree with you. But know you are just being a hater.

MS was one of the few f1 drivers to pay tribute on his website to the killed motorsport drivers immediatly after he got the news. But I guess you wouldn't know that....

#15105 Sof1

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 19:23

Oh common, the guy was there, he probably forgot his hat on, so what? Haven't you forgotten your hat on before? He is 42, old people forget :p

Other people have sunglasses on too. NOt a big deal.

Looks do not show real respect but actions and feelings do.

#15106 Sof1

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 19:26

BTW, barbie is looking right into the camera, he likes to be photographed :p lol

#15107 Jejking

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 19:32

I'm glad it was picked up by some media:

http://www.blick.ch/...etaetlos-185756

Lack of respect deserves lack of respect too :down:. Classless **** :down:.

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Don't forget about the Red Bull(?)-engineer who still had his earphones on while the ceremony went on. Crucify him!

Moral of the story: everybody mourns in his own way, take it or leave it. End of story.

#15108 Schumacher7

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 19:37

Really don't see why he would need to take a hat off, don't really see why he needs to show show respect and sadness over the deaths because if you feel it what does it matter what other people see and think. If you know you're being respectful some dozy **** on forum can't tell you you're being a "Classless ****".

#15109 Mastah

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 19:37

Bullshit. Who says you have to take of your hat. respect is given by what's inside and not what you wear. Why are some drivers looking down and some not? Is half of them respectless? No! Because there are no rules in paying respect. They agreed to have a minute silence, nothing more. If MS would have been talking during that minute, than I would agree with you. But know you are just being a hater.


So why he was taking his cap off on podiums, when anthems are played (well, at least it was that way 5 years ago, when he had last chance to do that)? Do you also say "Bullshit, who says you have to take off your hat, respect to national anthems is given by what's inside and not what you wear."? If not, you are pure hypocrite.

MS was one of the few f1 drivers to pay tribute on his website to the killed motorsport drivers immediatly after he got the news. But I guess you wouldn't know that....


Buahahaha, you know that drivers' websites are done by PR agencies :lol:? Or maybe you think he sat in front of his laptop and wrote "I'm very sorry to hear..." :lol:?


#15110 Diablobb81

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 19:40

Funny thing is he was scolded (by other idiots) when he gesticulated to the Italian Anthem on podium.

So yeah, opinions are like ....

Edited by Diablobb81, 31 October 2011 - 19:40.


#15111 Massa

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 19:41

So why he was taking his cap off on podiums, when anthems are played (well, at least it was that way 5 years ago, when he had last chance to do that)? Do you also say "Bullshit, who says you have to take off your hat, respect to national anthems is given by what's inside and not what you wear."? If not, you are pure hypocrite.



Buahahaha, you know that drivers' websites are done by PR agencies :lol:? Or maybe you think he sat in front of his laptop and wrote "I'm very sorry to hear..." :lol:?


Now there is a way to respect the death of someone ? Damn, you're post are so pathetic.

#15112 Sakae

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 19:46

Michael was pleased with the race, and car balance. He thinks that the team is on the right track to make car competitive (next year). I think it is good news, notwithstanding the cap on his head. I do agree however with Mastah, that it would have been perhaps more respectful to take it off; but who knows what was on his mind, and he simply might forgotten. Not a big deal. He is a hard fellow - just remember him, Ralf, and their mother...



#15113 Math89

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 19:48

Jesus christ dude... :rolleyes:

#15114 arknor

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 19:57

Funny thing is he was scolded (by other idiots) when he gesticulated to the Italian Anthem on podium.

So yeah, opinions are like ....

same scolded when he broke down in tears during a press conference when someone mentioned he either broke or equaled a record that had been held by senna

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 20:01

So what if he wore a hat.

The taking your hat off to the dead died out in the 1950's we are in 2011.


#15116 Schumacher7

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 20:24

Michael was pleased with the race, and car balance. He thinks that the team is on the right track to make car competitive (next year). I think it is good news, notwithstanding the cap on his head. I do agree however with Mastah, that it would have been perhaps more respectful to take it off; but who knows what was on his mind, and he simply might forgotten. Not a big deal. He is a hard fellow - just remember him, Ralf, and their mother...


What does this reference, I feel as though I'm about to learn something. :D

#15117 CrucialXtreme

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 20:25

Im pretty sure the chassis was extended last season after a few races, when this problem was identified, and it is not an issue with this years car at all. The team would have fixed that problem with this years car logically. There is no need for fancy theories and excuses. Michael has lot his speed, and feel and now over drives in qualifying, while in race trim he drives smoother, which is why he does not lose as much speed to rosberg.


Merc GP still has the shortest chassis of all current cars. Not so sure thats his excuse but they most definitely have the shortest car of the lot. Put SCHU in this years MaCa and he wins races this year. He's lost a little speed but not so much he can't be competitive with a competitive car.

#15118 Urawa

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 20:29

if you can´t find negative sportive aspects, find something else.
same old, same old...

#15119 Sakae

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 20:34

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What does this reference, I feel as though I'm about to learn something. :D


In Apr 2003 Schumacher brothers said good bye on Suturday to theirs mother in hospital; she died Sunday morning before race at the age of 55. Michael subsequently sat into his Ferrari at San Marino track, and gave Ferrari their 160th victory.

Edited by Sakae, 31 October 2011 - 20:37.


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#15120 Schumacher7

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 20:44

In Apr 2003 Schumacher brothers said good bye on Suturday to theirs mother in hospital; she died Sunday morning before race at the age of 55. Michael subsequently sat into his Ferrari at San Marino track, and gave Ferrari their 160th victory.

Was that the event David Coulthard was referencing earlier this season when he said Michael spoke to the BBC last year about why he was quite reserved or was that something else? He said Michael's early life I think so could be something else.

#15121 DutchCruijff

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 20:57

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

I always thought this to be quite enjoyable, a young & learning Schumi crying at the hands of Ayrton. :p

#15122 Johnrambo

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 21:39

You'd think a 41-year old guy would know to show some respect?

#15123 Buttoneer

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 22:00

Remember that this is not a fan forum and if someone wishes to complain about the behaviour of a driver then they may do so. This is not the same as complaining about YOUR behaviour. YOUR behaviour is unacceptable when you call other posters names, attack them, deliberately attempt to irritate or try to incite fruitless and circular arguments for the sake of your own entertainment. That is trolling. Please report this behaviour.

#15124 ivand911

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 22:13

About the hat ,there is very simple explanation for me. He was giving interview for RTL just seconds before this tribute. And he was in a hurry maybe for the tribute. I even think he was little late there and he just forgot the hat in the first moment. Maybe seconds latter he take the hat off? But, why not to blow this out of proportion. Mastah , who else. If he was not respectful, why he was there?
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Edited by ivand911, 31 October 2011 - 22:17.


#15125 Urawa

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 22:22

Don´t attack Slate please. He´s the biggest Schumacher fan of us all I think.
He´s just trying to spice things up.

#15126 Math89

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 22:22

One minute silence they held for the earthquake and tsunami in Japan...

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Look at all those unrespectfull a**holes with the hats on, but let me guess... This was a totally different situation.

Source= http://formula1.afte...ralia-race.html

Edited by Math89, 31 October 2011 - 22:22.


#15127 JensonWDC

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 22:38

I'm glad it was picked up by some media:


Lack of respect deserves lack of respect too :down:. Classless **** :down:.

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Congrats, we reached a new low here. Shocking.

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 22:40

Posts deleted, again.

No trolling, thanks.

#15129 Bunchies

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 22:49

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What does this reference, I feel as though I'm about to learn something. :D


Imola 2003, when Michael hounded Ralf for much of the grand prix while chasing for first position. It was quite an extraordinary race with great performances by both drivers. It was made all the more extraordinary by the fact that their mother had just passed away. On that day, both of them were masterclasses under the most immense pressure and distraction. Truly a performance to look at for all sportsmen.

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 23:20

I'm glad it was picked up by some media:

http://www.blick.ch/...etaetlos-185756

Lack of respect deserves lack of respect too :down:. Classless **** :down:.

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As for sunglasses.. you often see people at funerals wearing them to hide their eyes or tears.. nothing disprectful there.

This isn't 1960..1970.. or even 1980's..

Back in the day, you wouldn't be caught dead at Church in jeans.. now half the people who attend mass in Canada wear jeans and t-shirts and chew gum..
Back in the day, the f-word was seen as absolutely horrible to use in public, now.. its pretty much slang and used in everday talk.
Back in the day, talking back to your parents in public was seen as disprectful.. now it happens all the time.

What was once thought of as blasphomous is often now seen as normal.

On the podium.. you often see drivers cheering and talking to fans and team members during national athems... I don't see many people anymore complaining.. I see that as much more disprectful then wearing a hat during a moment of silence.. As mentioned here a lot.. people handle grief in their own personally way.. Schumi out of most on the grid is probably the most emotional and respectful out of them all in circumstances like that..and being the one who for years was always like Dan compaigning about safety in motorsport.

Stop making an issue when their isn't an issue to be had. Times changes.. sometimes for the better and sometimes for the worse..

Edited by Paco, 31 October 2011 - 23:21.


#15131 sharo

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 23:34

Paco :up:
Very good observation and true words.

#15132 LiJu914

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 00:25

Picture of the crowd during the minute of silence (bbc coverage)

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Now look at that. Thousand of a-holes not taking their hats of. :blush:

#15133 Sakae

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 00:43

About the hat ,there is very simple explanation for me. He was giving interview for RTL just seconds before this tribute. And he was in a hurry maybe for the tribute. I even think he was little late there and he just forgot the hat in the first moment. Maybe seconds latter he take the hat off? But, why not to blow this out of proportion. Mastah , who else. If he was not respectful, why he was there?
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That's plausible explanation. Thanks.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 01:48

I'm glad it was picked up by some media:

http://www.blick.ch/...etaetlos-185756

Lack of respect deserves lack of respect too :down:. Classless **** :down:.


How sad it is that gotcha politics has colonised discussions of sporting figures. The world does not revolve around whether MS shows proper "respect" for the deceased at a photo-op for the camera feed.

It is not an indication of character (would you like your character assessed based upon such selective moments?).
It is not an indication of callousness. Anyone who has followed F1 with more than a fleeting interest would know that MS is extraordinarily reticent about piously emoting for the cameras.

Shame on you, for using tragedies for personal vendetta.


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Posted 01 November 2011 - 02:23

How many millions has "classless" donated to charity?

Probably more than the rest of them added up.


#15136 MaxisOne

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 06:24

Mastahs post is 100% flame bait ...If he is going to stoop to the level of calling someone a classless **** for not taking his cap off for a MOMENT OF SILENCE then its only a matter of time until he looks in the mirror..

If you like a driver no problem. If you don't like a driver .. no problem.

All you need to do however is to stay classy about it.

#15137 Jomyboy

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 06:46

Superb 18 minute interview with Indian channel:



#15138 schumi'snake

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 07:03

Superb 18 minute interview with Indian channel:

michael looks really Humble and brilliant there~~~

Edited by schumi'snake, 01 November 2011 - 07:06.


#15139 Bunchies

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 09:08

How many millions has "classless" donated to charity?

Probably more than the rest of them added up.


To be fair, Schumi is quite a few orders of magnitude richer than the other drivers on the grid. Wasn't he the highest paid athlete in the world for a while?

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#15140 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 09:23

To be fair, Schumi is quite a few orders of magnitude richer than the other drivers on the grid. Wasn't he the highest paid athlete in the world for a while?



It's not like the rest of them are paupers or would become paupers if they donated money to charity.

Raikonnen and Alonso were paid $100,000 a DAY at Ferrari. Many of them are well into 8 figure salaries as well.

#15141 cheapracer

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 09:45

To be fair, Schumi is quite a few orders of magnitude richer than the other drivers on the grid. Wasn't he the highest paid athlete in the world for a while?


Whats that got to do with your attitude towards helping others? He doesn't just hand out money, he gets fully involved and makes demands on what the money is actually used for.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 09:45

Picture of the crowd during the minute of silence (bbc coverage)

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Now look at that. Thousand of a-holes not taking their hats of. :blush:

Wow, what a lot of classless ***** :down:

Funny that Mastah has vanished since his trolltastic claim has been comehensively dismantled. It's no wonder this place has so many bitchfests when you you can just flame bait and run. :well:

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 10:10

Funny that Mastah has vanished since his trolltastic claim has been comehensively dismantled.


It was a surprising post, if someone called MS "a dirty driver IMO" he might refer to and give a view on historical incidents but who's to know Schumacher's spiritual/religious beliefs (or not) and who's to say how he should act - certainly no one here.


#15144 Sakae

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 10:22

I am hoping that we are done with it then.

It has occured to me this morning - does anyone knows if there is a deadline when MGP will announced 2013 lineup? I am hoping they are not going to keep us in suspence until Dec 2012. If the car development is moving forward well, I wish that Michael will be invited, and he accepts to stay on board for 2013 as well. The man has spank in him, and last races just proving that faith in him as a driver by his old fans was not misplaced.

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 10:32

Superb 18 minute interview with Indian channel:


Great stuff. He's always been a humble, down to earth man, anyone that has actually met and spoken to him would know this. People just assume he's arrogant because of the smirk (even Rubens has one!) and the way he ignores the media sometimes.



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Posted 01 November 2011 - 10:37

Superb 18 minute interview with Indian channel:


Really nice interview! Is it me or does he seem a lot more relaxed with foreign journos than brit ones? E.g. still seems very in guard on beeb apart from with pit lady..

#15147 Mastah

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 10:48

One minute silence they held for the earthquake and tsunami in Japan...

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Look at all those unrespectfull a**holes with the hats on, but let me guess... This was a totally different situation.


Yes, they were classless ***** human beings too. Look at a guy who took his cap off, Jenson Button, intelligent person. Now, who didn't? Buemi, Glock, d'Ambrosio, Petrov, Alguersuari, Scumacher, Kobayasi and Sutil. All either young, let's say not very wise or just classless.



As for sunglasses.. you often see people at funerals wearing them to hide their eyes or tears.. nothing disprectful there.


I haven't said anything about sunglasses, but it would be welcome to take it off too (I remember Jake told DC the same, and that was during unimportant blah blah blah moment after the race).

This isn't 1960..1970.. or even 1980's...


Yes, unfortunately good manners are slowly vanishing :well:.


Picture of the crowd during the minute of silence (bbc coverage)

http://www.pictureup...9_Unbenannt.jpg

Now look at that. Thousand of a-holes not taking their hats of. :blush:


Yes, thousands of people who don't know how to behave.

Edited by Mastah, 01 November 2011 - 10:52.


#15148 ali.unal

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 11:04

Really nice interview! Is it me or does he seem a lot more relaxed with foreign journos than brit ones? E.g. still seems very in guard on beeb apart from with pit lady..

That lady in the interview is awesome. Very prepared and relaxed and cheerful. Well done to her. Schumacher seemed to like her.

Edited by ali.unal, 01 November 2011 - 11:05.


#15149 baddog

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 11:11

That lady in the interview is awesome. Very prepared and relaxed and cheerful. Well done to her. Schumacher seemed to like her.

Yeah you get so used to a complete lack of professionalism in media that when you do encounter the real thing it is a shock!

#15150 Sakae

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Posted 01 November 2011 - 11:14

Really nice interview! Is it me or does he seem a lot more relaxed with foreign journos than brit ones? E.g. still seems very in guard on beeb apart from with pit lady..

Yes, I too was suprised by how easy (rather than confrontational) interview it was. Woman was quite well prepared, and controlled conversation at the level she wanted. :up:

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