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#15501 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 13:28

i suspect not


I hope he is.



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#15502 Richardc

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 13:31

His lap times are terrible, i missed the start - are they on the same tyres? Maybe KERS agian?

#15503 ivand911

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 13:32

MS tyres are finished. What he wait?

#15504 arknor

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 13:32

looks like his tyres are now dead but merc wont pit him before rosberg i expect :rolleyes:

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 13:32

His lap times are terrible, i missed the start - are they on the same tyres? Maybe KERS agian?


at least it looks like the straight line speed is as bad as yesterday

#15506 DutchCruijff

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 13:33

He's pitted and lost a place to Sutil, this isn't good.

#15507 ivand911

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 13:34

Slow pitstop?

#15508 arknor

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 13:34

He's pitted and lost a place to Sutil, this isn't good.

needed to pit atleast 1-2 laps earlier

#15509 Spa95

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 13:37

Pace is good now :up:

#15510 Richardc

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 13:40

still not good enough, is there some cause or is this just a bad weekend?

#15511 ivand911

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 13:41

DIR cost MS 2-3sec. What happen in the pit?

Edited by ivand911, 13 November 2011 - 13:41.


#15512 Spa95

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 13:42

He is matching Rosberg who takes his customary sunday nap. :)

Also:

Schu has changed rear wing on his car, problem with DRS

http://twitter.com/#!/Jamesallenonf1/s...701941488582656

Yet another technical problem for him in qualifying.

Edited by Spa95, 13 November 2011 - 13:43.


#15513 DutchCruijff

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 13:44

DIR cost MS 2-3sec. What happen in the pit?

Did anything happen in the pits? I know he lost his place to Sutil before pits.

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 13:48

Did anything happen in the pits? I know he lost his place to Sutil before pits.

I thought he lost it in the box?


#15515 Diablobb81

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 13:50

No, he lost it before. Probably tires were gone.

Too bad about the horrible fist stint.

#15516 ivand911

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 13:51

No, he lost it before. Probably tires were gone.

Too bad about the horrible fist stint.

He waited 2 laps more. He needed to pit earlier. And to gain 2-3 sec to the Sutil. Big mistake. Sutil is very fast.

Edited by ivand911, 13 November 2011 - 13:53.


#15517 Urawa

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 13:51

P8 is the max. today

#15518 DutchCruijff

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 13:53

Did anyone spot his half-assed move on Massa? Really weird and bemusing considering the distance.

#15519 Kubiccia

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 13:55

Schumacher doing a horrible race to be honest.

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#15520 DutchCruijff

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 14:04

Reeling in Sutil.

#15521 Kubiccia

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 14:07

Sutil holding Schumi now

#15522 DutchCruijff

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 14:08

Bye Bye, Sutil.

#15523 spa08

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 14:23

Bye Bye, Sutil.


Should be bye bye Schumacher :lol:

#15524 DutchCruijff

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 14:26

Should be bye bye Schumacher :lol:

Hilarious.

#15525 Tarzaan

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 14:33

Schumi had a little contact with Massa's Ferrari in the first lap.

#15526 FlashMaster

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 14:35

Pathetic qualy pace and race pace (+20s behind Rosberg).

#15527 Tarzaan

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 14:37

Pathetic qualy pace and race pace (+20s behind Rosberg).



Clearly this is not his best weekend, but Button & Felipe had same pace to their teammate"s (an IMHO Webber to if Vettel didn't out of the race).

#15528 Urawa

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 14:43

no progress for whatever reason since friday, so the result was ok but not more

#15529 arknor

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 14:47

one of his worse races this year imo..
one of the worst tracks aswell total borefest and a ***** track

Edited by arknor, 13 November 2011 - 14:48.


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Posted 13 November 2011 - 14:47

Damage limitation exercise but at least ended up only one place behind his teammate. Wonder if getting hit by Massa on lap one caused that front wing part to seemingly drop off later?

#15531 thrillercd

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 14:48

Did Schumi have problem wit the car ? He did not bring car to Parc Ferme.

#15532 sharo

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 14:48

Points taken but a race to forget for Michael. Struggled the whole race.
Hope Brazil will be different.

#15533 Richardc

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 14:49

Yeah, it was boring and not great race by him. But it didn't actually cost him more than 1 position, so no problem really. Brazil is next, and i'll wish for rain.

#15534 ivand911

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 14:49

+1 position, not bad. FI very fast, they catch MGP. Good that Sutil eat his tyres.

#15535 Dalton007

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 14:50

Normal service resumed :) Rosberg schooled Michael.

#15536 Diablobb81

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 14:51

Horrible race, decent result.

Normal service resumed :) Rosberg schooled Michael.



Actually today was the exception.

Edited by Diablobb81, 13 November 2011 - 14:51.


#15537 ivand911

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 14:51

Normal service resumed :) Rosberg schooled Michael.

Not really. Look India is that what you talk about. Schooling.


#15538 arknor

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 14:51

Normal service resumed :) Rosberg schooled Michael.

read the thread title your posting in the wrong one

#15539 Urawa

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 14:57

Normal service resumed :) Rosberg schooled Michael.


Worst finishing result for Michael since Germany(!) and best result for Nico since Spa (together with India).
Talking about "normal service"

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#15540 Mastah

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 14:59

I waited for the race to finish, because after quali usual suspects were talking usual BS "different set-up oriented towards race". Yeah, race results showed that :rolleyes:. Trashed in quali, trashed in race. One Mercedes was fighting with Ferrari, the second with Schumi behind the wheel was defending against Force India :down:.

#15541 Kubiccia

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 15:06

Normal service resumed :) Rosberg schooled Michael.

In the need for attention? :rotfl:



#15542 ivand911

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 15:25

I waited for the race to finish, because after quali usual suspects were talking usual BS "different set-up oriented towards race". Yeah, race results showed that :rolleyes:. Trashed in quali, trashed in race. One Mercedes was fighting with Ferrari, the second with Schumi behind the wheel was defending against Force India :down:.

Can you remind me which driver was beaten by Jaime(STR) in Korea?
Any words from MS? He didn't speak on RTL again.

Edited by ivand911, 13 November 2011 - 15:34.


#15543 zelpre

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 15:26

Michael just had an interview for BBC. He had a puncture at the end of the race. He said that Nico had better tyres at the start..and that his tyres unfortunately gone quite fast. He lost some aerodynamic parts, didn't know what was happening with the car and so lost some balance because of that.

Weekend to forget I would say, let's move on in Brazil, hopefully with a strong weekend and hopefully gets 7 points more than Nico.

Edited by zelpre, 13 November 2011 - 15:27.


#15544 ali.unal

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 15:28

Schumacher was very down. I think this weekend Rosberg was just better than him. He (Rosberg) also made a point by setting his fastest lap in the very last lap, trying to give a message, I'd guess.

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 15:28

I waited for the race to finish, because after quali usual suspects were talking usual BS "different set-up oriented towards race". Yeah, race results showed that :rolleyes:. Trashed in quali, trashed in race. One Mercedes was fighting with Ferrari, the second with Schumi behind the wheel was defending against Force India :down:.

Well ... in a bit of defense:
Schumachers DRS was not working properly in qualifying.

Schu has changed rear wing on his car, problem with DRS
http://twitter.com/#!/Jamesallenonf1/s...701941488582656

In the race it was also notable that MSC lost his laptime mostly in sector 2 (where the 2 long straights are) - so still problems with rear wing (although cannot be just DRS then in the race)?
First stint was clearly Rosbergs. First half of second stint, Schumacher drove constantly slightly better laptimes than Rosberg. Later then, Rosberg turned around and drove bit faster than Schumacher - but still the lap time difference was small.
Schumacher drove more constant while Rosbergs laptimes were more up and down (with some very fast laps within though).
Then in stint 3 the strategy was splitted with pitstop timing so hard to compare ... but it has to be noted that Schumachers laptimes got rather slower to the end - and since he stopped the car after the cheqeured flag on the track it hints that he had to save fuel in the last stint?

Edited by HaPe, 13 November 2011 - 15:29.


#15546 Konsta

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 15:36

Well ... in a bit of defense:
Schumachers DRS was not working properly in qualifying.

Schu has changed rear wing on his car, problem with DRS
http://twitter.com/#!/Jamesallenonf1/s...701941488582656

In the race it was also notable that MSC lost his laptime mostly in sector 2 (where the 2 long straights are) - so still problems with rear wing (although cannot be just DRS then in the race)?
First stint was clearly Rosbergs. First half of second stint, Schumacher drove constantly slightly better laptimes than Rosberg. Later then, Rosberg turned around and drove bit faster than Schumacher - but still the lap time difference was small.
Schumacher drove more constant while Rosbergs laptimes were more up and down (with some very fast laps within though).
Then in stint 3 the strategy was splitted with pitstop timing so hard to compare ... but it has to be noted that Schumachers laptimes got rather slower to the end - and since he stopped the car after the cheqeured flag on the track it hints that he had to save fuel in the last stint?


TBH Nico´s ups and downs were from fast to faster when Michael´s laps were slowish throughout the race. How come Michael can know that Nico´s tires were better instead of driver just being better??

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 15:38

TBH Nico´s ups and downs were from fast to faster when Michael´s laps were slowish throughout the race. How come Michael can know that Nico´s tires were better instead of driver just being better??

Maybe he mean that Nico started with SN and MS was with SU(used). Is it so hard?


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Posted 13 November 2011 - 15:39

TBH Nico´s ups and downs were from fast to faster when Michael´s laps were slowish throughout the race.

No, not in stint 2.
For example: While MSC was lapping contantly around 1:46.0, Nico was doing 1.46.3, 1.46.1, 1.46.3, ..etc. .then suddenly a 1:45.8 ... and back to 1:46.+

How come Michael can know that Nico´s tires were better instead of driver just being better??

Less laps on it?! Pretty easy counting (and knowing how much quali laps on a tire does cost).

HaPe

Edited by HaPe, 13 November 2011 - 15:42.


#15549 Paco

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 15:48

Its all double talk. Tires this .. tires that. Rear wing this.. rear wing that..

Nico simply was more comfortable all weekend. Really no big deal as Merc is still 4th best so .. doesn't make any difference as they are near a podium anyway. I wish the drivers would simply just state the obvious... we as a team were simply not good enough again this weekend. Got the most out of it we could but it's still not enough.

#15550 Paco

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 15:51

Schumacher was very down. I think this weekend Rosberg was just better than him. He (Rosberg) also made a point by setting his fastest lap in the very last lap, trying to give a message, I'd guess.



If you believe that.. then he is an absolute fool. Ross and Co. should be... WTF.. you had the speed all along you just nailed a quick one at the end to prove a point. Shame on you.. :mad: :mad: :mad: I'd take him in the back and whip him silly if he was driving for me and doing some stupid crap like that considering they are in no position to show boat..

Edited by Paco, 13 November 2011 - 15:52.