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#1601 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 19:49

What year do you mean?

the year he refused to go to williams as he signed/agreed and stayed with BAR.

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#1602 Raelene

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 20:30

and MS never had a signed contract with Jordan, but I think undersquare knew that

#1603 George Costanza

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 20:36

and MS never had a signed contract with Jordan, but I think undersquare knew that



He signed with Mercedes, didn't he? then Benetton.

#1604 Fortymark

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 20:40

the year he refused to go to williams as he signed/agreed and stayed with BAR.


Do you really blaim him, as he was kicked out of Williams in favour for
Montoya after 1 year.

Anyway, if we stay a little on topic. I wonder if MS is going to have less or more tire wear
now when they are going to transfer more weight to the rear of the car.


#1605 undersquare

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 20:43

and MS never had a signed contract with Jordan, but I think undersquare knew that


Yes it was just an agreement in principle. So not enforceable. Still, he'd signed something, what was it supposed to be? Something that didn't mean anything?

#1606 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 21:21

Do you really blaim him, as he was kicked out of Williams in favour for
Montoya after 1 year.

why did he re-sign with them? if he hated them so much

#1607 Buttoneer

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 21:42

Once again, the topic is;

Aim of this thread is to discuss issues related to Michael Schumacher. After Bahrain voices were heard about several weaknesses in his current cornering technique. It is my hope we can continue in that spirit, and check on him through the season.



#1608 merschu

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 08:34

Schu admits 'more relaxed' but still 'serious' about F1

In an interview with Germany's Frankfurter Allgemeinen Zeitung, the seven time world champion said until his retirement in 2006 he was immersed in the "negative aspects" of formula one.

"It absolutely wore me down," said Schumacher, who has struggled to match the pace of his Mercedes teammate Nico Rosberg so far this season. He continued: "I believe people have noticed that how I was extremely dogged in the past I am now more calm, in a way that previously I was only able to be sometimes."

But as the criticism mounts, particularly after China where Schumacher struggled notably, he insists: "I have not lost any focus or my determination."I am still taking it seriously and am still very hard on myself. In that way nothing has changed," said the record winner of 91 grands prix.

Schumacher admits his biggest problem with today's formula one is the tyres.

"The narrower front tyres, both for the dry and for the rain, I don't know from my past. Each driver needs to learn how they behave and so my colleagues have a head-start."He explained that where previously he would be using practice sessions to work on fine-tuning for the race, he is now feeling uncertain on Fridays as to how the weekend will develop.


http://uk.autoblog.c...rious-about-f1/


#1609 F.M.

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 16:05

Rosberg on Schumacher: "And I can say for sure that in Malaysia, which was the third race, we were even."

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/83345

#1610 Yorkie

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 16:31

Perhaps not. There were rumours from Aida that year that Benetton were using traction control (and Ferrari, after Larini let it slip in a pc. Mclaren got done using a fully-automatic upshift, if memory serves). Likewise, Tom Walkinshaw was kicked sideways to Ligier for the next year (seen speculatively as a sacrificial scalp), and the non-compliant fuel rig most certainly was used.

Schumacher did a sterling job that year but in my opinion there was was some distinct rule-bending going on at the team. Pat Symonds denies this repeatedly, but look what he went on to do...

Thats how i saw it as well

#1611 nateshan

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 16:49

Rosberg on Schumacher: "And I can say for sure that in Malaysia, which was the third race, we were even."

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/83345


Rosberg almost stopped before the last turn in FP2 Malaysia to put together a good lap. There were a few things in Rosberg's favor this year. Knowledge of tyres (head start), his weight and its impact on balance, luck (incidents).

Although Shumi still has some issues to iron out, I expect to see him do much better from barcelona. We shall see how schumi can adapt, if he can!

Go Schumi!



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Posted 06 May 2010 - 17:29

The narrower front tyres, both for the dry and for the rain, I don't know from my past. Each driver needs to learn how they behave and so my colleagues have a head-start.


I've read it at least 5 times now, but the logic still escapes me. The narrower tyres are new to everyone, but still the others have had a headstart over MS? Hu?

#1613 nateshan

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 17:51

I've read it at least 5 times now, but the logic still escapes me. The narrower tyres are new to everyone, but still the others have had a headstart over MS? Hu?


I think MS meant about the new generation of slicks. Well, these are new to the rookies as well.

#1614 Augurk

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 09:01

Could this GP be the turning point? When I saw him jump up towards the (temporary) spot 1 in FP1 I got a glance of hope that he's able to attack again in the car. Moving up from Malaysia (where according to Nico they were on par). China definitely was -also in the words of Nico- an anomaly.

#1615 Frans

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 09:11

This is great material for a movie, title : "Old men, can't race"



Starring : YouKnowWho!!!! :)

#1616 FlashMaster

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 09:34

This is great material for a movie, title : "Old men, can't race"



Starring : YouKnowWho!!!! :)


No the title is called: "Jos Verstappen - the biggest loser ever"


#1617 Hacklerf

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 09:36

Fantastic for Schumi

#1618 salamin

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 09:41

half a second on Rosberg, best session for michael so far !

#1619 Sulman

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 09:42

Very early in the weekend, but he's looking more self-assured in the car. Very aggressive direction changes, and kerb hopping. FP1 looked a bit like he was enjoying it.

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#1620 harrows

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 09:44

half a second on Rosberg, best session for michael so far !


Yeah, those updates really did the trick...

#1621 merschu

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 09:46

I am not going to start jumping in joy right now but wait till the race is over before making a comment on Schumi's form. Though the FP1 times looks encouraging. :)

Edited by merschu, 07 May 2010 - 09:57.


#1622 libano

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 09:54

half a second on Rosberg, best session for michael so far !



more like 0.35 sec

but still decent. i hope it's a big step forward for schumi, not a step back for nico. the distance between hamilton and the rest is massive, though.

#1623 DarthWillie

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 09:54

This is great material for a movie, title : "Old men, can't race"



Starring : YouKnowWho!!!! :)

Lord Voldemort??? :confused:


anyway, it's just first practise but it looked encouraging for Schumacher

#1624 Owen

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 10:11

Lord Voldemort??? :confused:


anyway, it's just first practise but it looked encouraging for Schumacher

Yeh, good start. Appears to be going in the right direction.

#1625 Sulman

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 10:15

I'd be very surprised if Nico doesn't pull things back; he's very quick. However, If Michael and Nico can really give each other a shove, Mercedes will start to do very well this season. Michael looked the happiest in that car since, oh, 2006. He obviously found something in the setup that invited confidence.

That being said, temperatures were odd this morning (low), and if they go up or down the balance will change.

#1626 merschu

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 10:37

This has got nothing to do with the current discussion going on in this thread but to make a li'l note I wanted to mention this because when Schumi didn't sign an autograph for a child during testing at the beginning of the season, a ten page long thread was opened for it.

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"Mercedes Formula One driver Michael Schumacher of Germany meets with a disabled fan Meng Yushan during the qualifying session for the Chinese F1 Grand Prix at the Shanghai International Circuit in Shanghai, China"

Just to show when it is really required Schumi knows what he should do!

Edited by merschu, 07 May 2010 - 10:39.


#1627 DrF

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 10:39

Wow! 3rd in FP1!!! MS's title challenge starts NOW!

#1628 Augurk

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 10:41

This has got nothing to do with the current discussion going on in this thread but to make a li'l note I wanted to mention this because when Schumi didn't sign an autograph for a child during testing at the beginning of the season, a ten page long thread was opened for it.

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"Mercedes Formula One driver Michael Schumacher of Germany meets with a disabled fan Meng Yushan during the qualifying session for the Chinese F1 Grand Prix at the Shanghai International Circuit in Shanghai, China"

Just to show when it is really required Schumi knows what he should do!

Rather have him give a disabled man the day of his life than signing an autograph for a (possibly) spoilt kid :up:

#1629 kar

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 10:53

Wow! 3rd in FP1!!! MS's title challenge starts NOW!


Return of the King :-)

#1630 schuey100

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 11:00

Rather have him give a disabled man the day of his life than signing an autograph for a (possibly) spoilt kid :up:


Course this dude could be a (possibly) spoiled disabled man?

#1631 Augurk

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 11:02

Course this dude could be a (possibly) spoiled disabled man?

Possibly :rotfl:
Spoiled with good care then I hope :)

#1632 Sakae

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 11:52

FP1 must have cooling effect on his mind. Well, we will see; it's not over yet.

#1633 nateshan

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 12:16

Looking at FP1 and FP2, Looks like MS does have 0.35 sec over rosberg. Lets see how the weekend progresses.

#1634 cheapracer

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 14:02

WHERE ARE THE BIG MOUTHS TODAY????????????????????????????????


COWARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

:lol:


Edited by cheapracer, 07 May 2010 - 14:03.


#1635 cheapracer

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 14:08

Wow! 3rd in FP1!!! MS's title challenge starts NOW!


I doubt it, think it will be slow progress still but as long as he goes in the right direction it's all good.

Rosberg is still race fitter and more current car experienced than MS don't forget, I just expect MS to be closer but quite realistically still behind - for now.


#1636 kaivo

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 14:16

WHERE ARE THE BIG MOUTHS TODAY????????????????????????????????


COWARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

here.
Underweight car.

Edited by kaivo, 07 May 2010 - 14:16.


#1637 cheapracer

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 14:20

here.
Underweight car.


I fart in your general direction.


#1638 salamin

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 14:24

still waiting for the FP2 times, but following live-timing it seemed only red bull was quicker than MS, even on long runs

#1639 Hacklerf

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 14:28

This is fantastic :clap: , i hope he is as strong for the rest of the weekend

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#1640 qvn

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 14:28

more like 0.35 sec

but still decent. i hope it's a big step forward for schumi, not a step back for nico. the distance between hamilton and the rest is massive, though.


in FP2 : Rosberg 1m21.271s - 1m20.757s Schumacher = 0.524s

Edited by qvn, 07 May 2010 - 14:29.


#1641 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 14:30

still waiting for the FP2 times, but following live-timing it seemed only red bull was quicker than MS, even on long runs

http://fia.com/en-GB...sion2-times.pdf

#1642 FigJam

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 14:34

Still too early to judge MS this weekend.

#1643 cheapracer

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 14:35

Still too early to judge MS this weekend.


Don't come to this forum posting truth and facts thanks Mate :mad:

#1644 tweiss

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 14:37

Still too early to judge MS this weekend.


Good point... time will tell!!

#1645 Owen

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 14:45

WHERE ARE THE BIG MOUTHS TODAY????????????????????????????????


COWARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

:lol:

I'm here (presumably you count me as a big mouth). And I'm applauding the man. So let's be fair.

#1646 RSNS

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 15:15

At last the results from Mercedes are not looking nonsense... Was the chassis really broken, then? And is Schumacher using the same chassis specification as Rosberg?

#1647 iakhtar

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 15:19

Still too early to judge MS this weekend.


Agreed, i'm cautiously optimistic but i have a feeling we haven't seen mclaren/ferrari true pace yet, red bull are on another level... Still, anything can happen

#1648 weston

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 15:27

Agreed, i'm cautiously optimistic but i have a feeling we haven't seen mclaren/ferrari true pace yet, red bull are on another level... Still, anything can happen



Yes. Ferrari usually has different program on Friday.

#1649 gm914

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 19:25

Hi Schu fans.

I am currently working on a 3 part series of paintings depicting the 'Rain Masters of Formula One'.

I have decided to focus my efforts on Jackie Stewart, Ayrton Senna, and your man Schu.

(I have Senna's & Stewarts already sketched out, but still need a Schui race)

So in your opinion, what were the 3 ( or more) most amazing wet weather performances by Michael over the years?

Track & Year, any snippets of info are helpful too. (as are youtube clips or links)

Thanks, & I hope we see him on the podium this weekend in Spain!
:up:


Edit: typo

Edited by gm914, 07 May 2010 - 19:26.


#1650 SeanValen

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 19:34

Hi Schu fans.

I am currently working on a 3 part series of paintings depicting the 'Rain Masters of Formula One'.

I have decided to focus my efforts on Jackie Stewart, Ayrton Senna, and your man Schu.

(I have Senna's & Stewarts already sketched out, but still need a Schui race)

So in your opinion, what were the 3 ( or more) most amazing wet weather performances by Michael over the years?

Track & Year, any snippets of info are helpful too. (as are youtube clips or links)

Thanks, & I hope we see him on the podium this weekend in Spain!
:up:


Edit: typo


1995 Spa
Staying on slicks to win against Hill

1996 Spain First Ferrari win dominant fashion

2006 China- Last Ferrari win, like the first in the rain, but I think because of the tyre war, and the fact Michael was so much quicker on bridgestones then any other bridgestone shod car, even his own teamate Massa who struggled for a point, it was a great performance, the ferrari brass had written off the win after qualifying even then Michael put in a pretty special lap to get up there, he was sandwiched with michelin runners. Great race under pressure, title points important as well, and last races at the time of his career, so showing everyone even in his retiring year he was capable of being the major player in a race and the rain master signing off in his last rain race at the time. Great way to go out.


Edited by SeanValen, 07 May 2010 - 19:37.