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#16701 STRFerrari4Ever

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 23:03

Right people What do we expect from Schumi in 2012 if he's given a car that can stick with RBR, McLaren & Ferrari ?

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#16702 Richardc

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 23:16

Aggression, very good race pace, a closer qualifying pace to Nico and some awesome attacking/defending. Probably a spectacular win in there somewhere.

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 23:23

Aggression, very good race pace, a closer qualifying pace to Nico and some awesome attacking/defending. Probably a spectacular win in there somewhere.


This ^^

Although if by some miracle the W03 was as competitive as the RB, I'd dearly love him to chase for another title.

Edited by Longtimefan, 01 February 2012 - 23:24.


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Posted 01 February 2012 - 23:46

We saw in a couple of races this year what he will do if the car is competitive. My only worry is qualy, but I have my fingers crossed on that too given the changes.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 00:43

Right people What do we expect from Schumi in 2012 if he's given a car that can stick with RBR, McLaren & Ferrari ?


for some reason, i think that if he has the right car it will be a very very close fight with the closest rival. I think that Nico will have the performance, but he still doesn't have any experience fighting in the front and i dont rate him anywhere near vettel or hamilton in terms of performing under huge pressure, compared to Michael where i dont think its worthed to mention about performing under pressure.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:07

Right people What do we expect from Schumi in 2012 if he's given a car that can stick with RBR, McLaren & Ferrari ?


Honestly? I'd expect him to win races. Think about it, the man is a 7 times WDC, he has the racecraft and experience to do so. Given that, I'd also expect Rosberg to be right up there. If, and this is a very big IF Mercedes has the car capable of delivering race wins then the 2 of them should be right up there. We'll see.....

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 06:03

I hope he does win this year, I didn't count myself among his fans in the later Ferrari days, but I think a win or two by Schumi would stir things up in a good way.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 08:24

And here I am thinking that Schumacher's lack of pace in qualifying was due to a conspiracy by Mercedes to prohibit him from qualifying higher than Nico when all this time it's been that qualifying higher on the grid is a detriment instead of an advantage. Then maybe, if they really want to challenge for race wins in 2012 they should either start form the very back of the grid or the pit lane.

And there I am thinking that Schumacher "saving" a set of tyres and setting his car up for Sunday is rather an advantage as opposed to qualifying 5th/6th, wasting a set of tyres + gearing up for Quali, thus inevitably dropping back behind the Ferraris during the race and run the risk of Nico over-taking him too.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 08:36

:rotfl: nooo waaaay, is this true? Guy has a sense of humour, got to admit a great dig, if true.

It is true.
I expect podiums and win. To kick some butt(McL, Ferrari,Nico,RBR). And he to entertain us. He really need that rocketship. He will stay for 2013(50%).

Edited by ivand911, 02 February 2012 - 08:39.


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Posted 02 February 2012 - 08:38

Hamilton asked if it's difficult to leave the mandatory car-width when defending position: "Not for us. Maybe for Michael Schumacher.

Bit rich coming from Lewis.

Michael will be delighted to see that Lewis is still chewing over Monza months later.

#16711 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 09:51

If the car is as bad as it was in 2011 - not podium worthy - he won't stick around. If it shows promise, he'll consider it and if it is a challenger then he'll stick around.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 09:53

Lance Armstrong was on his second comeback Tour de France much weaker although he said before he felt better than at the first, so I hope that MS can maintain his 2011 form and stay close to NR. Anything more will be an unexpected -but much loved- plus.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 09:53

well I'm still waiting for him to quit and blame his neck...I mean that was going to happen 2 years ago according to many here ;);) ;P

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 09:55

I don't think you can call being trashed in Abu Dhabi as a sign of getting stronger.

Also what makes you think 2012 rules will suit him more?


I particularly enjoyed Spa (24th to 5th, while Rosberg finished LOWER than his grid slot) and Canada where Schumacher was challenging for second while Rosberg finished the race with a broken nose,

All hail the mighty Rosberg.

#16715 DutchCruijff

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 10:22

"I think the problem is that you don't ever see his true personality," he said. "He's a racer - but a pure racer, nothing but a racer and, because of that, I think the day he hangs up his helmet people will just forget him. Senna, by contrast, will never be forgotten. Some of that is the James Dean factor, of course, because he was killed in action at a young age, but not all of it. I don't even think Michael will live on in people's memories as strong or as long as Prost has - certainly not as strong or as long as Mansell has. Those people attained a hero status that Michael never has and never will. Michael simply isn't a great champion because he's played too many dirty tricks and because he isn't a great human being," said Villeneuve (Aug. 2006). "Yes, Senna played dirty tricks too but he did it with more class, more integrity. When he took Prost out [in the Japanese grand prix] at Suzuka in 1990, he said he was going to do it before the race.But he lies not only to fans but to his fellow drivers, too. At the GPDA meeting at Silverstone he lied to us [about his qualifying incident at Monaco] and he didn't even have the decency to appear embarrassed about it. He just stared in our eyes and lied. And we all knew we were being lied to but very few of us bothered to say anything [Villeneuve, Alex Wurz and Pedro de la Rosa were the only ones who did] because most are scared of Michael or just wanted the meeting to be over so that they could go and watch the World Cup, which was a pathetic way to behave when there was such an important matter under discussion. It's quite sad, really - because the reason Michael did what he did is that he thinks he's better than the rest of us. He thinks he's bigger than the sport, too, but he isn't. And when he retires, and no one really remembers him, that will become clear."

I was searching up some old quotes and I stumbled upon this. The guy was and is an absolute joke :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Before anyone has a little moan about me posting this quote, it's rather interesting to re-live Jacques real opinions on Schumacher & revel in the fact that Schumi's No.2 hater is utterly wrong.

#16716 Ferrari_F1_fan_2001

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 10:46

"I think the problem is that you don't ever see his true personality," he said. "He's a racer - but a pure racer, nothing but a racer and, because of that, I think the day he hangs up his helmet people will just forget him. Senna, by contrast, will never be forgotten. Some of that is the James Dean factor, of course, because he was killed in action at a young age, but not all of it. I don't even think Michael will live on in people's memories as strong or as long as Prost has - certainly not as strong or as long as Mansell has. Those people attained a hero status that Michael never has and never will. Michael simply isn't a great champion because he's played too many dirty tricks and because he isn't a great human being," said Villeneuve (Aug. 2006). "Yes, Senna played dirty tricks too but he did it with more class, more integrity. When he took Prost out [in the Japanese grand prix] at Suzuka in 1990, he said he was going to do it before the race.But he lies not only to fans but to his fellow drivers, too. At the GPDA meeting at Silverstone he lied to us [about his qualifying incident at Monaco] and he didn't even have the decency to appear embarrassed about it. He just stared in our eyes and lied. And we all knew we were being lied to but very few of us bothered to say anything [Villeneuve, Alex Wurz and Pedro de la Rosa were the only ones who did] because most are scared of Michael or just wanted the meeting to be over so that they could go and watch the World Cup, which was a pathetic way to behave when there was such an important matter under discussion. It's quite sad, really - because the reason Michael did what he did is that he thinks he's better than the rest of us. He thinks he's bigger than the sport, too, but he isn't. And when he retires, and no one really remembers him, that will become clear."

I was searching up some old quotes and I stumbled upon this. The guy was and is an absolute joke :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Before anyone has a little moan about me posting this quote, it's rather interesting to re-live Jacques real opinions on Schumacher & revel in the fact that Schumi's No.2 hater is utterly wrong.


Villeneuve? Remind me who he is again, please?

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 10:55

A guy that constantly crashes into things.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 10:59

Villeneuve? Remind me who he is again, please?



I think it's this dude?


Edited by finignig, 02 February 2012 - 11:04.


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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:15

I think it's this dude?


Reminds me of Oscar Dela Hoya and his forray into the music business.


All kidding aside, I'm actually a Jacques Villeneuve fan and he has said some positive things about Schumacher of late. I'm guessing their animosity is now buried.

Respect to JV though, his drifting skills are awesome!

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#16720 Mastah

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:21

@Mastah: No one will give you any guarantees in terms of predictions for 2012. I think you know that well, so why ask? Question rather is how do you know that driver's had not extracted all what was car capable off last year? Michael acts as a lighting rod for years, and we, his fans, are use to it, but sometime I wonder motives behind all of this. Think about if you would be able to accomplish what he has, and then judge him.


I'm asking because cheapracer said it's well documented here that car in 2012 specification will suit Schumi, but all I can see is "well stated by Schumi fans" and that's night and day difference, hence my question.

No driver extracts everything from the car with qualifying 0.5 second off teammate weekend after weekend.




Mmmmmmmm, but will you at least agree that MS was stronger in 2011 than he was in 2010?


Yes.



Rational MS fans know that MS is not what he was. We also know that he is still better than the majority of F1 drivers on the grid. We also know that he is more or less on the same footing as his team mate at the moment.


So how many tenths per lap he is slower?

#16721 Mastah

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:22

Well there it is, you're simply lazy, go find it all yourself - I think maybe you take your "Mastah" nick literally :lol:

Journalists are no more than spectators like forum members with a cross range of knowledge and in fact there's more to be seen on a TV screen than there is trackside.


No links then. So you made that up, but won't admit it. OK.

That's why I got from fellow forum members that from telemetry Toro Rosso knew their drivers weren't extracting everything from the car. Oh wait, it was said by a journalist, who is "no more than spectator" :wave:.



I particularly enjoyed Spa (24th to 5th, while Rosberg finished LOWER than his grid slot) and Canada where Schumacher was challenging for second while Rosberg finished the race with a broken nose,

All hail the mighty Rosberg.


Discussed to death. Crazy races, different strategies, SC. Straightforward race = Abu Dhabi, 1 second deficit in quali, 4-5 tenths in race.



Villeneuve? Remind me who he is again, please?


1997 Formula 1 World Champion. Who can forget Michael Schumacher hitting Villeneuve on purpose during last Grand Prix that year, for which he was disqualified and excluded from Championship. Move unanimously condemned in F1 paddock and by all reasonable F1 fans.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:42

Although if by some miracle the W03 was as competitive as the RB, I'd dearly love him to chase for another title.


That's impossible. He's on average 5 tenths slower in quali than his teammate, in some cases it's up to unbelievable 1 second difference. And that's deficit to Nico, not to Seb, who is true qualifying master. If Merc and Red Bull are equally competetive, Schumi will be on average 7-8 tenths slower in quali, sometimes up to 1.5 second. If the cars indeed will be much closer to each other with EBD gone, then it's hard to imagine how far he would start from. P1-P10? P6-P15? What he would achieve from these starting positions? Not much.

#16723 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:48

Schumi will be on average 7-8 tenths slower in quali, sometimes up to 1.5 second.

in order to get that average, you know, sometimes he will be just in the mix.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:57

Sometimes Mark Webber was faster than his teammate last year. I guess him and his fans are happy about that...

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 12:17

Discussed to death. Crazy races, different strategies, SC. Straightforward race = Abu Dhabi, 1 second deficit in quali, 4-5 tenths in race.


Is that all? Just Abu Dhabi?
What about other races?


1997 Formula 1 World Champion. Who can forget Michael Schumacher hitting Villeneuve on purpose during last Grand Prix that year, for which he was disqualified and excluded from Championship. Move unanimously condemned in F1 paddock and by all reasonable F1 fans.


Prost did the same thing to Senna. Senna did the same thing to Prost.
Why are they heroes and Schumacher is a supervillain?


That's impossible. He's on average 5 tenths slower in quali than his teammate, in some cases it's up to unbelievable 1 second difference. And that's deficit to Nico, not to Seb, who is true qualifying master. If Merc and Red Bull are equally competetive, Schumi will be on average 7-8 tenths slower in quali, sometimes up to 1.5 second. If the cars indeed will be much closer to each other with EBD gone, then it's hard to imagine how far he would start from. P1-P10? P6-P15? What he would achieve from these starting positions? Not much.


Who is the latest qualifying world champion? Which team won last year qualifying constructor championship? Which driver has the most qualifying world titles? Which team has the most qualifying world titles?
And why do all drivers bother driving on Sunday? We all know that Saturday is the most important day in GP weekend.

I know that qualifying in good position is important, but answer me those questions above.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 12:55

Is that all? Just Abu Dhabi?
What about other races?




Prost did the same thing to Senna. Senna did the same thing to Prost.
Why are they heroes and Schumacher is a supervillain?




Who is the latest qualifying world champion? Which team won last year qualifying constructor championship? Which driver has the most qualifying world titles? Which team has the most qualifying world titles?
And why do all drivers bother driving on Sunday? We all know that Saturday is the most important day in GP weekend.

I know that qualifying in good position is important, but answer me those questions above.

:up: Well said.

#16727 jj2728

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 13:36

Who is the latest qualifying world champion? Which team won last year qualifying constructor championship? Which driver has the most qualifying world titles? Which team has the most qualifying world titles?
And why do all drivers bother driving on Sunday? We all know that Saturday is the most important day in GP weekend.
I know that qualifying in good position is important, but answer me those questions above.


I'll answer them in the sequence you asked them, noone, no team, noone (again), no team (again) and noone (for a third time).
Happy now?
And I'd say that qualifying in a good position is a bit more than important.........

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 13:39

And there I am thinking that Schumacher "saving" a set of tyres and setting his car up for Sunday is rather an advantage as opposed to qualifying 5th/6th, wasting a set of tyres + gearing up for Quali, thus inevitably dropping back behind the Ferraris during the race and run the risk of Nico over-taking him too.



Yep, saving those tyres sure worked out to his advantage...... :rolleyes:

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 13:52

Yep, saving those tyres sure worked out to his advantage...... :rolleyes:

Yes, yes they did unless you'd like to actually show how they didn't. Adding a condescending emoticon to the end of your post does it not give it added credence.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 14:28

Is that all? Just Abu Dhabi?
What about other races?


Like China? Sorry, I can't name more, because in so many races Schumi collided with someone and lost front wing, crashed or spun, so there are very few clean and normal races left to compare.

Prost did the same thing to Senna. Senna did the same thing to Prost.
Why are they heroes and Schumacher is a supervillain?


The question was "who is Jacques Villeneuve?". How Senna or Prost are relevant to that :drunk:?

Who is the latest qualifying world champion? Which team won last year qualifying constructor championship? Which driver has the most qualifying world titles? Which team has the most qualifying world titles?
And why do all drivers bother driving on Sunday? We all know that Saturday is the most important day in GP weekend.

I know that qualifying in good position is important, but answer me those questions above.


Sebastian Vettel and Red Bull Racing, 2010 and 2011 champions.


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Posted 02 February 2012 - 14:41

Right people What do we expect from Schumi in 2012 if he's given a car that can stick with RBR, McLaren & Ferrari ?


A couple of podiums, no more, maybe a gifted win unless the Benz suddenly performs miracles against 3 consistent top line teams of the past decade - lets be realistic here.


No links then. So you made that up, but won't admit it. OK.


No I didn't make it up, plenty of posts on the subject but because you're lazy I'm not lifting a finger for you other than a middle one.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 14:51

Who can forget Michael Schumacher hitting Villeneuve on purpose during last Grand Prix that year, for which he was disqualified and excluded from Championship. Move unanimously condemned in F1 paddock and by all reasonable F1 fans.


Yup, rotten frustrated moment and lowpoint of his F1 career that wasn't required although of course we don't know all that goes on between drivers in F1 that may have injected reason into it - did you see what JV did to MS at his pitstop in Spa '96 for example? that one was just barely caught on film but how many aren't?

The difference between you and I is this is all you remember whereas I remember and consider all 288 races in the whole.



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Posted 02 February 2012 - 14:51

A couple of podiums, no more, maybe a gifted win unless the Benz suddenly performs miracles against 3 consistent top line teams of the past decade - lets be realistic here.




No I didn't make it up, plenty of posts on the subject but because you're lazy I'm not lifting a finger for you other than a middle one.


:rotfl:

Post of the day!!!!

#16734 Afterburner

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 14:54

No I didn't make it up, plenty of posts on the subject but because you're lazy I'm not lifting a finger for you other than a middle one.

Signature material. :rotfl:

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 15:10

:rotfl:

Post of the day!!!!

:lol:

Edited by ramad, 02 February 2012 - 15:11.


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Posted 02 February 2012 - 16:43

The question was "who is Jacques Villeneuve?". How Senna or Prost are relevant to that :drunk: ?

Schumacher entered F1 arena and it’s on/off track culture when both drivers were involved in active racing. It is rather understandable to mature men that he carried forward traits of that culture, which included hard nose driving in defense. Nationalistically motivated media of course find their way how to treat drivers of that era, and applied double standard when reports were published. Your superficial approach to history and lack of effort to understand human condition is overwhelming, but not surprising; these are times we live in. There is link among those three drivers, it’s just you have failed to understand it, but I would say that’s your problem only, and no one else’s.



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Posted 02 February 2012 - 16:59

Prost did the same thing to Senna. Senna did the same thing to Prost.
Why are they heroes and Schumacher is a supervillain?

I guess because he did not do it the right way, didn't bulldoze JV out with no chance to continue :D

#16738 jj2728

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 17:23

No I didn't make it up, plenty of posts on the subject but because you're lazy I'm not lifting a finger for you other than a middle one.


Classy comment, well done...... :rolleyes:
I hope people remember that the next time you need some assistance....
But then again I forgot, you're superior to the rest of us so.....

#16739 spacekid

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 18:03

I see Jerez '97 has lifted its head again. It was a really sh*tty move, I hated, a lot of fans hated it, it was dissapointing, thats just the nature of the man. The insane will to win that gave us so many beautiful brilliant drives also produced some horrible moments. Thats the nature of the man, after 15 years I really do think its time to draw a line under that one. For me the brilliant moments have far, far outweighed the bad ones over the past 21 years, if you don't feel that way fine but after so long it is rather tedious so see this bought up over and over again.

Expectations for the season? I think cheapracer pretty much nailed it, if the W03 is competitive hopefully a few podiums, although even that will be tough. I can't see McLaren or Red Bull moving backwards over the winter so a win would be very unlikely I would have thought. Not impossible, but I think it would take a crazy situation.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 18:27

Like China? Sorry, I can't name more, because in so many races Schumi collided with someone and lost front wing, crashed or spun, so there are very few clean and normal races left to compare.


Schumacher collisions shouldn't stop you from naming more races. There are web pages that have all lap times recorded from each race. You should look at that and make comparison.
Should we consider China as a clean race? Rosberg had less fuel in his car and didn't start to save fuel until last 10-15 laps. So, he drove 3/4 of race with less fuel than Schumacher.
But let's take it as a clean and normal race.
Schumacher and Rosberg had 5 clean and normal races. Malaysia, China, Spain, India and Abu Dhabi. Result is MSC 3 - NR 2.
You will probaly disagree and find some silly reasons to support your theory.

Also, funny thing. If Schumacher was so poor compared to Rosberg (huge qualy gap, big race pace difference) and had all that collisions, broken FW, crashed and spuned a lot and also retired from 5 races, how come that he was only 13 points behind Rosberg at the end of season?

The question was "who is Jacques Villeneuve?". How Senna or Prost are relevant to that :drunk:?


OK, read carefully what you wrote. Concentrate on underlined part.

"1997 Formula 1 World Champion. Who can forget Michael Schumacher hitting Villeneuve on purpose during last Grand Prix that year, for which he was disqualified and excluded from Championship. Move unanimously condemned in F1 paddock and by all reasonable F1 fans."

Schumacher was condemned, but Prost and specially Senna were heroes. Similar things, double standard.

Answer on question "who is Jacques Villeneuve?" is, like you wrote, 1997 Formula 1 World Champion. Good and true answer.
But after that you simply couldn't resist, as it is in your troll-Schumacher hating nature, and you wrote two more sentences that had absolutly no other intention than to provoke. How were those two sentences relevant to question "who is Jacques Villeneuve?"?

If someone asks me "who is Alex Wurz?", should I answer "former F1 driver" and "David Coulthard tried stupid overtaking move on him and almost cut off his head"?

Sebastian Vettel and Red Bull Racing, 2010 and 2011 champions.


F1 started back in 1950. Could you name QWDC and QWCC for every year?

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 18:51

Any poster who claims the gap was 0.5 seconds average through the season in one reply, and in another lists a single race to highlight how bad MS is now has lost any credibility.

That's before he brings up past race misdemeanors for just the object of his hatred.

Quite sad that anyone can be so full of bile & capable of such ill-considered posting.

Crawl back under your stone you sad troll.

#16742 schubacca

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 20:19

Michael Schumacher


Races 288 (287 starts)
Championships 7 (1994, 1995, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004)
Wins 91
Podiums 154
Career points 1,517
Pole positions 68
Fastest laps 76

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Haters gonna hate......

#16743 FenderJaguar

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 20:21

The thing that Jacques said - in which I think he was absolutely right - was that you could be angry but respect Senna for making his move against Prost because he said he meant to do it but that Michael never admits his faults - like Jerez 97. I think that interview was after Rascasse where he parked his car and once again smiled and said it was so unfortunate.

Edited by FenderJaguar, 02 February 2012 - 20:23.


#16744 FenderJaguar

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 20:24

Oh the stats...some fan must be hurting.

#16745 jj2728

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 20:28

Oh the stats...some fan must be hurting.


Well, you know the fanboyz like to toss the stats around when they begin to feel 'hated' and 'trolled' upon.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 20:41

The thing that Jacques said - in which I think he was absolutely right - was that you could be angry but respect Senna for making his move against Prost because he said he meant to do it but that Michael never admits his faults - like Jerez 97. I think that interview was after Rascasse where he parked his car and once again smiled and said it was so unfortunate.


Ok, let's get that myth corrected.

Here is what Senna said one year later:

"I said to myself, “OK, you try to work cleanly, and you get ****** by certain people. All right, if tomorrow Prost beats me off the line, at the first corner, I will go for it and he better not turn in because he’s not going to make it.” And it just happened."


#16747 BRK

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 20:50

I don't understand why you lot have to keep feeding the idiots. There hasn't been a single development on the racing front since the off-season began and not a wheel turned on a 2012 car, there's literally nothing of substance to analyse as far as the racing is concerned and absolutely no reason at all to rehash old arguments. That the haters are attracted to this thread the moment Michael's back in the news for some reason is proof enough to me at least that these are just trolls looking for a good time on the interwebs.

20 years of watching their dreams fall apart and record after record smashed by an evil teuton of all people does that to certain people. Best leave it be. :lol:

#16748 Diablobb81

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 20:56

The thing that Jacques said - in which I think he was absolutely right - was that you could be angry but respect Senna for making his move against Prost because he said he meant to do it but that Michael never admits his faults - like Jerez 97. I think that interview was after Rascasse where he parked his car and once again smiled and said it was so unfortunate.


So it's more acceptable to do something premeditated and admit it that it is to do something in the heat of the moment.

Strong logic.

#16749 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 21:00

I don't understand why you lot have to keep feeding the idiots.

+1 :up:

#16750 schubacca

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 22:12

The thing that Jacques said - in which I think he was absolutely right - was that you could be angry but respect Senna for making his move against Prost because he said he meant to do it but that Michael never admits his faults - like Jerez 97. I think that interview was after Rascasse where he parked his car and once again smiled and said it was so unfortunate.


Only that MS said that he would have done things differently such as 1997.

You can feel free to hold on to that though ;)

PS: Those stats still stand ;)