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#17251 LiJu914

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 13:17

Somehow i guess MSC won´t overcome his recent weakness in Qualifying and i also expect the field to be closer together in 2012.
As a result his disadavantage regarding starting postions might even grow. Hence i think the gap between him and Rosberg will grow again.


Ps. I know it´s completly speculative, but that´s my general feeling right now.




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#17252 Poep

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 18:43

I got a lot of respect for Patrese but like all comments on MS I think that this year should be kept in hand and see what difference no EBD actually makes.

Having watched a lot of years of F1 I can only say that these years I see drivers jump (literally) out of their cars and stride to the weigh in with a spring in there step like they had just driven 5 laps, not 50 - I can remember an awful lot of drivers back in the 80's I can't say the same for .. you can argue all day if drivers are faster now or not but there is no question, not a doubt that they are fitter which at least means they can drive faster and concentrate harder for longer into a race - something that MS actually set the standard for.

These cars are physically easier to drive than the ones from the 90's and 2000's. This was confirmed by MS himself (something which suprised him and which he found dissapointing). That's the reason why drivers come out of the car more fresh.
Secondly, remember Button, Hamilton, Massa, Alonso, Webber (and even Vettel) coming out of their 2007/2008 cars after a race? They didn't look that fresh as compared to now.

#17253 Kubiccia

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 18:45

Somehow i guess MSC won´t overcome his recent weakness in Qualifying and i also expect the field to be closer together in 2012.
As a result his disadavantage regarding starting postions might even grow. Hence i think the gap between him and Rosberg will grow again.


Ps. I know it´s completly speculative, but that´s my general feeling right now.

I'm with you on that one. I just don't see how he can regain speed. The EBD thing for me accounts for very litte. In 2010 it was the same story in qualifyings and no engine mapping was involved with Mercedes' car.

I expect the same thing to happen this year, Schumi will be slightly faster or within a tenth behind in some sessions but will equally be like a second slower on some ocasions. I've made a list of qualifyings in which he was close/faster :
Australia 2010: 0,043s slower
Barcelona 2010: 0,114s faster
Monaco 2010: 0,043s slower in relation Nico's Q3 but 0,215s in relation to Nico's Q2 time
Turkey 2010: 0,095s faster
Germany 2010: 0,008s slower
Belgium 2010 : 0,011s faster
Brazil 2010: 0,564s faster on damp conditions

So 7 out 19 times, Schumacher was competitive in qualifyings regarding 2010 season.

Barcelona 2011: 0,102s slower
Monaco 2011: 0,059s faster
Canada 2011: 0,050s slower
Valencia 2011: 0,009s slower
Singapore 2011: 0,362s faster in Q2 when both set times and 0,030s slower than Nico's Q3 time
Japan 2011: Nico didn't participate but Schumacher's Q2 time was already very competitive compared to other cars in front and behind

So 6 out of 18(didn't include Spa because Schumacher couldn't participate), he was competitive in 2011.

The rate is roughly the same and could have been exactly the same if Schumi's wheel didn't fall of in Spa and he proved competitive there. For the 2012 season, I expect the same rate for him being competitive, qualifying-wise.

Edited by Kubiccia, 01 March 2012 - 18:48.


#17254 ivand911

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 19:23

Tomorrow Mr. Michael Schumacher will drive in the test. If this is not luck, I don't know what is. I think this year MS will be much closer to Nico and he can finish the year ahead. If he stop crashing people.

Edited by ivand911, 01 March 2012 - 19:24.


#17255 Sakae

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 02:55

What are you up to, Ivan?

#17256 ivand911

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 07:08

What are you up to, Ivan?

We are lucky that MS is around. :p So, I plan to enjoy it. Not wondering will he beat Nico or not.


#17257 Rikhart

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 16:10

Pretty good testing day, 100 laps, hope he managed to do everything he wanted.

#17258 Jejking

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 16:13

We are lucky that MS is around. :p So, I plan to enjoy it. Not wondering will he beat Nico or not.

Well a challenge is always good to watch :p

Greatest challenge of his whole carreer imho. By the way, I know testing doesn't say everything but this is remarkable.


Edited by Jejking, 04 March 2012 - 16:20.


#17259 ivand911

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 13:41

Today F1 is to find the limit of the tyres, that limit which tyres will have the best pace for the stint. If you go over this limit you kill tyres quickly. You can have 3-4 quick laps and after that lap time drops. Driver need to pace himself. And Michael does this well. Last year MS did great stint in India. Long and somehow fast. Nobody believed that softs can last so long. I think this is playing well for MS. Young drivers want to push more. MS is self disciplined, we saw it last year. Drivers ahead(Nico) pushed more and left him behind, but he didn't push to maintain the gap. But latter his pace quickens and he catch them when their tyres were finished. Young drivers tend to pursuit guys ahead and also killing their tyres. This is why his race pace is good. I don't say he is slow, but modern F1 is not for the fastest guy. Because you need to save tyres. Maybe Nico is 0,3-0,5 sec faster than him, or maybe he pushes more in Q. Don't know. I still think that when you push more in Q3 you take life from this tyres and their pace will start to drop quicker in the race.
Q will be interesting in Australia.

Edited by ivand911, 05 March 2012 - 13:43.


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#17260 Jejking

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 18:58

Schumacher did a good job last year but Rosberg wasn't bad either, he proved he was able to handle them quite well too and better than Schumacher at certain races. Still interesting though.

#17261 Richardc

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 19:04

Q will be interesting in Australia.


I think it will probably be nearly as painful as most of last years (though i hope i'm proven wrong!), however the w03 should have MS more comfortably into the top 10. :smoking:


#17262 ivand911

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 13:21

Some MS pictures:
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Edited by ivand911, 06 March 2012 - 13:34.


#17263 Sakae

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 16:41

It's going to be difficult to get into Q3, because this year we have more candidates for P6 - P14. (Just plain bone feeling).

#17264 Richardc

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 16:47

But if we have the 3rd fastest car on pure pace, it shouldnt be hard to make the top 10 hopefully. The first Q3 is likely to answer all our questions about the relative pace of the cars and Schu and Rsberg.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 16:50

This time last year some people were predicting that Renault, Sauber, Williams, even Toro Rosso were going to whip MGP. Same thing this year. Raikkonnen isn't going to work any magic at Renault and those other teams are still going to be chasing the same top four. There may be a little change in the pecking order among the top four however.

#17266 Sakae

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 16:57

One answer is lacking, namely, is Mercedes going to have tyre good enough to finish a race. I do not believe necessarily everything what I read, but quite a lot of people around F1 seems to hold an opinion that Merc has greater degradation, than rest of them. We need a few races to get to the bottom of this.

Edited by Sakae, 06 March 2012 - 16:58.


#17267 ivand911

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 17:38

One answer is lacking, namely, is Mercedes going to have tyre good enough to finish a race. I do not believe necessarily everything what I read, but quite a lot of people around F1 seems to hold an opinion that Merc has greater degradation, than rest of them. We need a few races to get to the bottom of this.

Last year they have massive degradation in Australia. I think first race will answer the question if MGP have bigger than other team degradation. Or not.

#17268 cheapracer

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 18:14

Raikkonnen isn't going to work any magic at Renault and those other teams are still going to be chasing the same top four.


I think you're wrong and I don't mean Kimi, I mean the Lotus (not Renault fyi), both of them look to be a serious threat and I'm still saying Force India are right in there and now Williams have Renault powe ...

RBR and Mclaren will still be the ones to beat but theres going to be a real bun fight between 4 or 5 teams for the 3rd ranking.


#17269 DutchCruijff

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 18:23



Epic. The only thing that will taint his career is his fashion sense.

#17270 zyphro

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 18:55

I think you're wrong and I don't mean Kimi, I mean the Lotus (not Renault fyi), both of them look to be a serious threat and I'm still saying Force India are right in there and now Williams have Renault powe ...

RBR and Mclaren will still be the ones to beat but theres going to be a real bun fight between 4 or 5 teams for the 3rd ranking.


I somehow doubt it.

:wave:



#17271 Schumacher7

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 19:04

I somehow doubt it.

:wave:

Seconded. People are overhyping them in my opinion.

#17272 zyphro

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 19:06

Seconded. People are overhyping them in my opinion.


Agreed. This is testing guys; I would remain cautious about everything.

For all we know with Merc being so quiet they could be a dominant force!

-Exactly it's all speculation.

Edited by zyphro, 06 March 2012 - 19:07.


#17273 DutchCruijff

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 19:24

cheapracer isn't letting his guard down, expect the worst and anything better will be bliss. In the sane part of his mind he doesn't really expect Schumacher & Rosberg to be fighting for 11th & 12th.

#17274 libano

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 19:51

Agreed. This is testing guys; I would remain cautious about everything.

For all we know with Merc being so quiet they could be a dominant force!

-Exactly it's all speculation.


Agree 100%. Analizing the test data gives me every reason to believe the MGP package is super competitive. There seems to be an air of quiet confidence hanging around the Mercedes camp. They will turn heads and we'll see both MS and NR on the podium this season. I'm predicting at least one victory.


#17275 exmayol

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:57

Seconded. People are overhyping them in my opinion.


Thirded. There is no way LOTUS, FI or SAUBER will finish ahead of MGP in 2012.

MGP can have a disaster race here and there but they are in a good shape and in fact can pleasently surprise by performing better than expected. LOTUS on the other hand has all grounds to disappoint given how high they raised a bar during the testing by presumably having such a great pace...

Edited by exmayol, 07 March 2012 - 02:01.


#17276 PoliFanAthic

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 07:22

Just had another of those pre-season recurring dreams, with Schumacher winning the opening race. Heh.

#17277 Jejking

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:13

Agreed. This is testing guys; I would remain cautious about everything.

For all we know with Merc being so quiet they could be a dominant force!

-Exactly it's all speculation.

In that case I'm curious how close to reality this will turn out to be:

http://abulafiaf1.wo...2012/03/06/331/

Just had another of those pre-season recurring dreams, with Schumacher winning the opening race. Heh.

Fingers crossed!

Edited by Jejking, 07 March 2012 - 10:13.


#17278 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:42

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#17279 Jejking

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:52

What is it about in short? I'd like to know what I'm about to buy.

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#17280 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 12:15

Its a cartoon of Michael and Ross upsetting the podium which has Kimi, Lewis. Alonso, Button and Vettel on it

#17281 Jejking

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 13:05

Comedy Gold.

#17282 Hacklerf

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 15:08

Got my helmet ready for karting this year.

Tested it out at work yesterday :lol:
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Hail Schumacher!

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#17283 Jejking

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 16:04

I don't expect anything less than driving sims with that helmet on sir :D

#17284 chrisaix

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 16:10

Wow! Thats so cool! :love:

#17285 Hacklerf

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 16:11

Heh!

I might have to fire F1 2011 up when i get home, take victory #92!

It took me a while to paint it, but im pleased with the result.

Edited by Hacklerf, 07 March 2012 - 16:11.


#17286 Jejking

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 16:39

Homemade paintjob? That's nice. We like more pics, where did you do it and how?

#17287 ivand911

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 16:43

You found they right colour! :up:

#17288 Hacklerf

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 16:53

Homemade paintjob? That's nice. We like more pics, where did you do it and how?


I painted it in my garage, borrowed a compressor from work and ordered a spray gun and air brush off ebay! i can post pics from begining to end if you want

You found they right colour! :up:


In the end! it wasn't easy but i ended up mixing 3 different colours together to get it reasonably close mate

#17289 zyphro

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 17:26

Heh!

I might have to fire F1 2011 up when i get home, take victory #92!

It took me a while to paint it, but im pleased with the result.

Excellent!

:love:

#17290 ivand911

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 20:48

http://twitpic.com/8si573/full


#17291 Dolph

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 20:50

I painted it in my garage, borrowed a compressor from work and ordered a spray gun and air brush off ebay! i can post pics from begining to end if you want



Do it, do it!

#17292 Pits

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 21:42

http://twitpic.com/8si573/full


:up:

#17293 Rob

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 21:46

I painted it in my garage, borrowed a compressor from work and ordered a spray gun and air brush off ebay! i can post pics from begining to end if you want


That would be awesome! I've fancied painting a helmet but not had the guts to try it.

#17294 Jejking

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 22:36

Agreed. I like the idea of those pics!

#17295 Kubiccia

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 21:23

http://twitpic.com/8si573/full

is that you on the side of Newey? :smoking:

#17296 nateshan

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 00:13

is that you on the side of Newey? :smoking:

That appears to be webber.

#17297 Hacklerf

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 13:59

I thought id throw up some of the photos i mentioned for you guys, its a shame the camera cant pic up the colours properly as they look different in each shot! :drunk:

You can click thumbnails for bigger pics,

Heres the first layer of red going on.
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Doing the black for the monster section. I used the monster font and printed out something different. Cut them out of vinyl
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Heres a bit of a halfway stage.
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Getting ready to pain the silver, took ages to mask up!
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Silver lines.
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Here the monster bit comes to life, but i didnt want monster, put my name instead
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Then instead of Schumi's dragons, i decided to put a picture of my dog on the back instead! i airbrushed him from a stencil.
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Then was time to do the top of the helmet, i couldn't quite get it the same as Michaels, but i tried to get it close
You mask it out with thin tape then spray over the tape to make the shadow.
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Time for the 7 stars! made some templates out of vinyl for these as well
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Michael has the names of his children on the side of his helmet, so i didnt of course want that! i decided to have Massa style, i messed the otherside up tho, so i had to add this red line to cover my mistake!
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I didnt know what to put on the front where the Merc badge goes, so i settled on the Autobots after a while
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After that, it was pretty much it until i had it lacqured, i couldnt do that myself because you need a air fed suit and an oven to cure it
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Today i changed the visor strip for a silver one

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Thats it, hope you enjoy, if i can find a better camera ill take a pic to see if the colours come out better than on my phone
Next up i think i do Raikkonen style design.

Edited by Hacklerf, 09 March 2012 - 14:00.


#17298 ivand911

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 14:41

So, you put another drink then(Ambrosia). ;)

Edited by ivand911, 09 March 2012 - 14:42.


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Posted 09 March 2012 - 20:34

http://translate.goo...e...tml&act=url

Newest interview, likely the last before the arrival at Melbourne.
I´m too lazy to translate but I think most parts are understandable

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 17:52

look


What do they know in Ecuador?